2018.10.02 07:00 - Wrath and Compassion

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Riddle Sideways. The comments are by Riddle Sideways.

    Riddle Sideways: howdee Leaping in Adams
    Riddle Sideways: such a nice way to travel
    Adams Rubble: Good morning Riddle :)
    Riddle Sideways: reminds of Roo and Tiger

    Adams Rubble: I may have to elave early
    Adams Rubble: leadve
    Adams Rubble: leave
    Riddle Sideways: is ok
    Adams Rubble: but made it
    Riddle Sideways: ah, great
    Riddle Sideways: do you have the little one, today?

    Adams Rubble is still burdened by national events. can't seem to shake all the reminders
    Adams Rubble: yes little one is present :)
    Riddle Sideways: watched many TV 'comedy' talk shows
    Riddle Sideways: last night
    Adams Rubble: sometimes they can help
    Riddle Sideways: a not-so light look at last week
    Adams Rubble: some people in the government have shown an unbelievably ugly side
    Adams Rubble: want to suppress anyone who is compassionate
    Riddle Sideways: yes, unbelievably ugly

    Riddle Sideways: thank you, had forgotten a topic
    Adams Rubble: ohhh, very sorry
    Riddle Sideways: had thought about Wrath and Compassion since yesterday
    Adams Rubble: I just can't shake it--reminded when I approach the computer
    Adams Rubble: ahhh wrath and compassion
    Riddle Sideways: felt odd to have forgotten

    Adams Rubble: have to remember why we are angry and not fall into the trap of making the anger about the "self"
    Riddle Sideways: good that is was not weighting on mind, bad that had no good topic to discuss
    Riddle Sideways: and Anger seems long term
    Riddle Sideways: going on and on or being held
    Riddle Sideways: and taken out in wrong directions
    Adams Rubble: probably not healthy for us to carry it long term
    Riddle Sideways: against self or loved ones when it is other generated
    Riddle Sideways: nope not healthy

    Adams Rubble: November 6 a good time to let it rise and smite thine foes
    Riddle Sideways: like how your talking
    Riddle Sideways: was confused about wrath
    Adams Rubble thinks about Supreme Court Justices in bar fights
                   --BELL--
    Adams Rubble: back to the wild west days
    Adams Rubble: wrong kind of wrath

    Adams Rubble: wrath is the third deadly sin :)
    Adams Rubble: pride, envy, wrath, sloth...
    Riddle Sideways: wow, you know the order
    Adams Rubble: ...greed, gluttony and lust
    Riddle Sideways: ok, it is a deadly sin, so thou shalt not should do it
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Riddle Sideways: just, when it was sounding like a replacement for anger

    Adams Rubble: God did it all the time
    Riddle Sideways: Original double standard?
    Adams Rubble: even Jesus had wrath with the money changers


    Adams Rubble sings There is a time for every purpose under heaven
    Riddle Sideways: nice song


    Adams Rubble wonders how many seven deadly sins that Trump doeth
    Adams Rubble: an example to us all :)
    Riddle Sideways: sloth?
    Adams Rubble: golf course?
    Riddle Sideways: oh
    Riddle Sideways: he might not admit to envy
    Adams Rubble: that's because he has an eighth
    Adams Rubble: fibbing
    Riddle Sideways: ah
    Riddle Sideways: has added new sins to list
    Adams Rubble: make sins great again
    Riddle Sideways: can't decide on adding smiley or frowny
    Adams Rubble is not much help this morning
    Adams Rubble: so sorry to bring my darkness


    Riddle Sideways: need a compassion generator
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Adams Rubble sees a bunch of scientists huddled in a dark room on the upper floor of a campus building....
    Riddle Sideways: hear on radio: saw a T-Shirt that read "Science, what got us this far"
    Riddle Sideways: *heard
    Riddle Sideways: need both a personal and public compassion generator
    Adams Rubble: Carl Sagen thought it was the suppression of the scientists that led to the fall of the great Greek covilization


    Riddle Sideways: maybe a Pan-endemic of compassion
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Riddle Sideways: passed by shaking hands together
    Riddle Sideways: or by Smiles
    Adams Rubble: Johnny tonglen-seed
    Riddle Sideways: yes
    Riddle Sideways: they shall reap what you sow
    Adams Rubble: yes
                   --BELL--
    Riddle Sideways: tell us more about this having compassion on thine enemies
    Adams Rubble: they are badly hurting in their ignorance

    Adams Rubble: Trump is such an unhappy person
    Adams Rubble: we can have compassion for that and hope that they find the knowledge that will help them break out of their pit
    Adams Rubble: we can have compassion for that person
    Adams Rubble: they are not what they do
    Adams Rubble: it is the "what they do" that is bad
    Adams Rubble: there is a redeemable human being underneath
    Riddle Sideways: he was so happy part of yesterday over the NAFTA v2.0 renaming to unpronouncable as the Greatest deal
    Riddle Sideways: good: what they Are vs. what they Do
    Adams Rubble: his unhappy "self" needs constant attention; he can never have enough; the slightest slight makes him react like a three year old

    Adams Rubble: his father was cruel to him--beat him
    Riddle Sideways: that lesson about richest man still not happy
    Adams Rubble: once beat him because he did not have a jacket and tie to go to a baseball game
    Riddle Sideways: missed that story
    Riddle Sideways: now feel bad for young Donny
    Riddle Sideways: that is a good way to find compassion for another
    Adams Rubble: yes we can have compassion for that person and his own children
    Adams Rubble: who received terrible treatment from him

    Riddle Sideways: that dog can't help it, it was beat as a pup
    Adams Rubble: yes those dogs are messed up for the rest of their lives
    Riddle Sideways: a parable

    Adams Rubble: a sister who spent her life visiting peope in prison once said we should never judge a person by the worst thing they did in their lives--but we do
    Adams Rubble: I said but we do, not her :)

    Riddle Sideways: "We were talking, about the space between us all..." - Within you, Without you - George
    Riddle Sideways: opens browser to listen to it

    Adams Rubble: our rage generated by politics is empty :)
    Riddle Sideways: ya know, you're right

    Adams Rubble: conditioned by walking into the room where the computer resides :)
    Riddle Sideways: or the room with that TV
    Adams Rubble: yes
    Riddle Sideways: or the newspaper reading room
    Riddle Sideways: going back in those rooms brings the context back
    Riddle Sideways: we remember
    Adams Rubble: yes


    Adams Rubble: but it OK to let our wrath fly on November 6
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Riddle Sideways: need to leave there happy, so that as the last thing
                   --BELL--
    Adams Rubble: I should leave and go help. Thank you for a helpful session :)
    Riddle Sideways: ok, have your best fun day with guest
    Adams Rubble: I needed this
    Riddle Sideways: so did All
    Riddle Sideways: thanks
    Adams Rubble: yes, you too Riddle. Stay away from TV and newspapers (hehe)
    Adams Rubble: have a great week; see you next week
    Adams Rubble: bye for now
    Riddle Sideways: by
    Adams Rubble waves

    Riddle Sideways: Within You Without You
    Riddle Sideways: maybe not in US: http://www.lyrics-youtube.com/lyrics...ou-y__Zs3e6BdA
                   --BELL--
    Riddle Sideways: or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsffxGyY4ck

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