2018.10.06 13:00 - Droning On

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Bruce Mowbray. The comments are by Bruce Mowbray.


    Bruce Mowbray: Hi, Mick!
    Mickorod Renard: Hi Bruce
    Mickorod Renard: how are you?
    Mickorod Renard: he he
    Bruce Mowbray: Excellent, thank you, and busy.
    Mickorod Renard: am I in the right chat box
    Bruce Mowbray: How are you?
    Mickorod Renard: good thanks
    Bruce Mowbray: I've just finished posting another drone video....
    Bruce Mowbray: that I'd been editing all morning.
    Mickorod Renard: oh? sounds fun
    Bruce Mowbray: (It's uploading right now, actually.)
    Bruce Mowbray: It is fun!
    Mickorod Renard: I am a bit out of touch
    Mickorod Renard: i have a few drones here
    Bruce Mowbray: If I don't get kicked out of wherever I've launched form.
    Bruce Mowbray: What drones do you have!!!???
    Mickorod Renard: they are syma
    Mickorod Renard: I have 3
    Bruce Mowbray: ahhhh. Mine is the DJI Mavic 2.
    Mickorod Renard: flying ones
    Bruce Mowbray: Ive also had a Phantom 4 Pro and an Autel X-Star, but I gave those away to friends.
    Mickorod Renard: wow I didn't know you were into drones
    Bruce Mowbray: Oh yeah.
    Mickorod Renard: i have 3 helicopters too
    Bruce Mowbray: Nor did I know that you were into drones.
    Bruce Mowbray: Ha ha.
    Mickorod Renard: he he
    Mickorod Renard: i am a rank amateur
    Bruce Mowbray: Wow! Have you posted any videos taken with your drones?
    Mickorod Renard: no, not at all, I only have one with a camera
    Mickorod Renard: and I don't fit it
    Bruce Mowbray: ahhhh!
    Bruce Mowbray: Would I seem obnoxious if I shared some of my more recent videos with you?
    Mickorod Renard: I am just playing,,mainly with the kids cos unlike the helicopters these don't chop your head off
    Mickorod Renard: I would love to see your vids
    Bruce Mowbray: (The one I'm uploading right now will be added to the list once it's finished uploading.)
    Bruce Mowbray: here's a link to recent ones:
    Mickorod Renard: great!
    Bruce Mowbray: http://hermitdog.com/mavic_videos.htm
    Mickorod Renard: I am spending more time trying to get the kids to fly rather than myself
    Bruce Mowbray: Great! The kids will love it.
    Mickorod Renard: wow, am watching one but can't put sound up at mo
    Bruce Mowbray: np, brb
    Mickorod Renard: kk


    --BELL--


    Bruce Mowbray: I've just finished sending my sister-in-law an email about "Letting yourself be seen."
    Bruce Mowbray: She is experiencing a spirit guide - with the help of a person in RL.
    Bruce Mowbray: (a deceased friend of hers - a soul-mate) has been visiting her....
    Bruce Mowbray: and she was brave enough to share that with me.
    Bruce Mowbray: Of course, I'm totally receptive.
    Bruce Mowbray: So, I wrote her a tome about "letting yourself be held" by whats going on.
    Bruce Mowbray: Like, letting yourself be held by the weather, or by some space, building, circumstance, etc.
    Mickorod Renard: hi
    Bruce Mowbray: In her case, letting herself be held by the spirit guide.
    Bruce Mowbray: hi!
    Mickorod Renard: that's a nice thing to do Bruce
    Mickorod Renard: it must be disconcerting for some folk
    Bruce Mowbray: Well, it's something I don't allow myself to do often enough, I'm afraid.
    Mickorod Renard: its nice she has you as such an understanding person
    Bruce Mowbray: But I'm all for different ways of knowing experience.
    Mickorod Renard: for sure
    Bruce Mowbray: Drone videos are also a way of knowing, I feel.
    Mickorod Renard: yes, another view point/perspective
    Bruce Mowbray: Whenever I go out for a walk, I now "see” the world differently - since I've also seen the same areas from above.
    Bruce Mowbray: It's like adding a new dimension.
    Mickorod Renard: yes, Google Earth has been a stepping stone in that direction too
    Bruce Mowbray: Oh YES!
    Mickorod Renard: I often check out a place
    Bruce Mowbray: You know what I love to do on Google Earth?
    Mickorod Renard: whats that?
    Bruce Mowbray: I love to visit places I've been before....
    Mickorod Renard: ah yes
    Mickorod Renard: me too
    Bruce Mowbray: like Paris, or Scotland, or my old home town.... or college....
    Bruce Mowbray: and see how things have changed.
    Mickorod Renard: he he
    Bruce Mowbray: and what still seems familiar.
    Bruce Mowbray: It's pretty amazing.
    Mickorod Renard: also, cos I use sat nav maps so much it helps me to know the terrain before i go somewhere
    Bruce Mowbray: Excellent idea.
    Bruce Mowbray: I can't travel much anymore...a few road trips by car is all.
    Mickorod Renard: otherwise one can be quite blind especially if sat nav fails at the last moment
    Bruce Mowbray: (and of course I take along the drone...)
    Bruce Mowbray: Good point.
    Bruce Mowbray: "Blind," as in going through the experience with tunnel vision.
    Bruce Mowbray: Speaking of satellite connections,
    Mickorod Renard: we tend to fly indoors at the mo, sometimes in the garden. eventually i will take the kids out and get them to fly in the church grounds
    Bruce Mowbray: my present drone flies connected to 18 satellites.
    Mickorod Renard: that's amazing
    Bruce Mowbray: I was wondering where in London you might be permitted to fly.
    Mickorod Renard: I looked it up, its more advanced than ours
    Bruce Mowbray: How about Buckingham Gardens?
    Bruce Mowbray: ha ha.
    Mickorod Renard: i don't think there is much restriction in the UK incl London
    Bruce Mowbray: oh really?
    Bruce Mowbray: That surprises me.
    Mickorod Renard: yes, some places restrictions due to security and health n safety
    Bruce Mowbray: Oh yeah, for sure.
    Bruce Mowbray: My drone is set up so that it is impossible to fly in No-Flight zones.
    Mickorod Renard: should be ok in green park and that would give you good views over Buck palace
    Bruce Mowbray: like over military bases, airports, prisons, or within a 35-mile radius of the president.
    Bruce Mowbray: No spying on the Queen, now. ;-)
    Mickorod Renard: we are pretty free over here and worst case one might get a police man ask you to refrain flying for a reason
    Bruce Mowbray: Yes.
    Mickorod Renard: I used to fly planes, model..and it was more regulated
    Bruce Mowbray: Really?
    Bruce Mowbray: There is a model plane runway at a nearby state park.
    Mickorod Renard: oh yes, maximum and minimum heights and away from roads
    Bruce Mowbray: They fly REALLY big model aircraft from that.

    --BELL--


    Mickorod Renard: we have one very close to me where they fly huge models and model jets
    Bruce Mowbray: Maximum altitude allowed in US is 400 feet (192 meters)
    Bruce Mowbray: Wow! My nephew built and flew a jet....
    Bruce Mowbray: had to get FAA approval every time he flew it, though.
    Mickorod Renard: I was thinking the other day i would like to fly again, i have a spitfire in the garage but my radio is all out of date
    Mickorod Renard: wow re nephew
    Bruce Mowbray: Hmmm. Well, I hope you dig it out of storage if you want to. The kids would love it, too.
    Mickorod Renard: I ought go all electric too
    Mickorod Renard: no messy fuel and chopped fingers
    Bruce Mowbray: So, "all electric means flying with battery and an electric engine?
    Mickorod Renard: yes, they have come on so much these days
    Bruce Mowbray: (That's what drones use, of course.)
    Mickorod Renard: yes
    Bruce Mowbray nods.
    Bruce Mowbray: The Mavic 2's batteries last for 31 minutes.
    Mickorod Renard: that's impressive
    Bruce Mowbray: but I've never flown for that long.
    Mickorod Renard: i was impressed at the range too
    Bruce Mowbray: I have flown until the drone returns automatically to home because the battery is getting low, though.
    Mickorod Renard: I watched a program on tv the other day,,battle of Britain model squadron
    Bruce Mowbray: Yes, the range is purported to be five miles, but I've never flown farther than two miles away from home-point.
    Bruce Mowbray listens.
    Bruce Mowbray: So they re-enact the battle with models?
    Mickorod Renard: they got two groups of modelers German and Brits and pitched each against each other
    Mickorod Renard: yes
    Bruce Mowbray: Amazing!
    Mickorod Renard: the sky was full of models and they had laser weapons
    Bruce Mowbray: Fun too, I'll bet
    Mickorod Renard: so they could knock each other out
    Bruce Mowbray: It surprises me that the controllers' signals do not interfere with each other.
    Mickorod Renard: it was on our Channel 4, might be on YouTube
    Bruce Mowbray: Hmmm, I'll bet it is.
    Mickorod Renard: nowadays they have these digital rc
    Bruce Mowbray: I can also receive Channel 4 over here.
    Mickorod Renard: ahha
    Bruce Mowbray: :)
    Mickorod Renard: the biggest challenge for them was logistics and was similar to real problems
    Bruce Mowbray: I can (sort of) imagine.
    Mickorod Renard: like having enough charged batteries and enough pilots etc
    Mickorod Renard: flying in formation was hard
    Bruce Mowbray: Over here they have Civil War re-enactments - BOOOOORING.
    Mickorod Renard: yes, here too
    Bruce Mowbray: Hmmmm.
    Mickorod Renard: i never tried it
    Bruce Mowbray: Holy Clarendon?
    Bruce Mowbray: I've been there.
    Mickorod Renard: he he , yes?
    Bruce Mowbray: The battleground in Scotland.
    Bruce Mowbray: Sacred territory to the Scots.
    Mickorod Renard: Coloden?
    Bruce Mowbray: A couple of folks in our tour group were actually crying when we went there.
    Bruce Mowbray: Colenden . . . ?? I forget.
    Bruce Mowbray: Coloden... ??
    Bruce Mowbray: ???
    Mickorod Renard: Culloden Village in Scotland
    Bruce Mowbray: where the battle was...
    Mickorod Renard: well, there was much butchery there
    Bruce Mowbray: that finished off Scottish resistance for good.
    Bruce Mowbray: Yes, MUCH.
    Mickorod Renard: yes
    Bruce Mowbray: Sad.
    Bruce Mowbray: I have photos.
    Mickorod Renard: the English royals at that time were German
    Bruce Mowbray: I have NEVER been able to figure out Scottish history!
    Mickorod Renard: and it was the king's brother I think, who was in charge of the bloodshed
    Bruce Mowbray: It is SOOOO complicated.
    Bruce Mowbray: A messy business, for sure.
    Mickorod Renard: yes, i am not to up to date on it
    Mickorod Renard: and of course, its written many times by different sides
    Bruce Mowbray: I bought a cartoon history of Scotland before I went there - so I could somewhat understand it. . . but it nearly KILT me.
    Mickorod Renard: he he
    Bruce Mowbray dies from laughing....
    Mickorod Renard: its all about power
    Mickorod Renard: and greed
    Bruce Mowbray: Yes.
    Bruce Mowbray: This really should be scotch, not champagne.
    Mickorod Renard: they call it religion or nationalism or whatever but its usually people and greed


    --BELL--


    Mickorod Renard: ah, did you send it Bruce
    Bruce Mowbray: No, I was drinking it!
    Bruce Mowbray: but I detached it.
    Mickorod Renard: i rejected it cos i thought it was odd
    Mickorod Renard: ah I see
    Mickorod Renard: so how long u been droning?
    Mickorod Renard: :)
    Bruce Mowbray: about three months.
    Bruce Mowbray: Three months -- three drones.
    Mickorod Renard: oh, not long..that's impressive
    Bruce Mowbray: The one I have now is wonderful.
    Bruce Mowbray: an amazing piece of technology.
    Mickorod Renard: I have it up on another window
    Bruce Mowbray: Cool.
    Bruce Mowbray: I almost wrecked it this week.
    Mickorod Renard: expensive kit
    Mickorod Renard: erk
    Bruce Mowbray: (check out "Obstacle Avoidance on the Scioto") http://hermitdog.com/mavic_drones.htm
    Bruce Mowbray: Yes, the model I have now cost $1,300
    Bruce Mowbray: I don't know what that would be in pounds.
    Mickorod Renard: about the same I guess
    Mickorod Renard: pound a bit low at mo
    Bruce Mowbray: hmmmm.
    Mickorod Renard: I see there are different specs
    Bruce Mowbray: When I was in the UK last, the pound was = $1.25 USD
    Bruce Mowbray: There are two versions of the Mavic 2
    Bruce Mowbray: One with the Hasselblad camera,
    Bruce Mowbray: and one with the zoom camera.
    Mickorod Renard: a pro and non pro?
    Bruce Mowbray: I have the zoom.
    Mickorod Renard: ah i see
    Bruce Mowbray: (It is also cheaper than the other one.)
    Bruce Mowbray: by about $300
    Bruce Mowbray: Hey, matey, I need to be gone to RL affairs.
    Mickorod Renard: https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/smart-tech/smart-tech/smart-toys-and-gadgets/drones/551_4376_31989_xx_xx/xx-criteria.html
    Bruce Mowbray: GREAT to see you here, though.
    Mickorod Renard: ok Bruce, take care mate
    Bruce Mowbray: I've just opened your page.
    Mickorod Renard: yes, must get back to visiting
    Mickorod Renard: there are at least 2 there
    Mickorod Renard: huge dif in price
    Bruce Mowbray: Yes, big difference.
    Bruce Mowbray: Mine is the one with the zoom lens (the cheaper one).
    Bruce Mowbray: So, have a FINE weekend, Mick!
    Mickorod Renard: ok, will read up in a bit
    Bruce Mowbray: kk.
    Mickorod Renard: and you Bruce, take care
    Bruce Mowbray: Bye for now, then.
    Mickorod Renard: bye
    Bruce Mowbray: You take care too!

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