The Guardian for this meeting was Bruce Mowbray. The comments are by Bruce Mowbray.
Bruce Mowbray: Hi, Mick!
Mickorod Renard: Hi Bruce
Mickorod Renard: how are you?
Mickorod Renard: he he
Bruce Mowbray: Excellent, thank you, and busy.
Mickorod Renard: am I in the right chat box
Bruce Mowbray: How are you?
Mickorod Renard: good thanks
Bruce Mowbray: I've just finished posting another drone video....
Bruce Mowbray: that I'd been editing all morning.
Mickorod Renard: oh? sounds fun
Bruce Mowbray: (It's uploading right now, actually.)
Bruce Mowbray: It is fun!
Mickorod Renard: I am a bit out of touch
Mickorod Renard: i have a few drones here
Bruce Mowbray: If I don't get kicked out of wherever I've launched form.
Bruce Mowbray: What drones do you have!!!???
Mickorod Renard: they are syma
Mickorod Renard: I have 3
Bruce Mowbray: ahhhh. Mine is the DJI Mavic 2.
Mickorod Renard: flying ones
Bruce Mowbray: Ive also had a Phantom 4 Pro and an Autel X-Star, but I gave those away to friends.
Mickorod Renard: wow I didn't know you were into drones
Bruce Mowbray: Oh yeah.
Mickorod Renard: i have 3 helicopters too
Bruce Mowbray: Nor did I know that you were into drones.
Bruce Mowbray: Ha ha.
Mickorod Renard: he he
Mickorod Renard: i am a rank amateur
Bruce Mowbray: Wow! Have you posted any videos taken with your drones?
Mickorod Renard: no, not at all, I only have one with a camera
Mickorod Renard: and I don't fit it
Bruce Mowbray: ahhhh!
Bruce Mowbray: Would I seem obnoxious if I shared some of my more recent videos with you?
Mickorod Renard: I am just playing,,mainly with the kids cos unlike the helicopters these don't chop your head off
Mickorod Renard: I would love to see your vids
Bruce Mowbray: (The one I'm uploading right now will be added to the list once it's finished uploading.)
Bruce Mowbray: here's a link to recent ones:
Mickorod Renard: great!
Bruce Mowbray: http://hermitdog.com/mavic_videos.htm
Mickorod Renard: I am spending more time trying to get the kids to fly rather than myself
Bruce Mowbray: Great! The kids will love it.
Mickorod Renard: wow, am watching one but can't put sound up at mo
Bruce Mowbray: np, brb
Mickorod Renard: kk
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Bruce Mowbray: I've just finished sending my sister-in-law an email about "Letting yourself be seen."
Bruce Mowbray: She is experiencing a spirit guide - with the help of a person in RL.
Bruce Mowbray: (a deceased friend of hers - a soul-mate) has been visiting her....
Bruce Mowbray: and she was brave enough to share that with me.
Bruce Mowbray: Of course, I'm totally receptive.
Bruce Mowbray: So, I wrote her a tome about "letting yourself be held" by whats going on.
Bruce Mowbray: Like, letting yourself be held by the weather, or by some space, building, circumstance, etc.
Mickorod Renard: hi
Bruce Mowbray: In her case, letting herself be held by the spirit guide.
Bruce Mowbray: hi!
Mickorod Renard: that's a nice thing to do Bruce
Mickorod Renard: it must be disconcerting for some folk
Bruce Mowbray: Well, it's something I don't allow myself to do often enough, I'm afraid.
Mickorod Renard: its nice she has you as such an understanding person
Bruce Mowbray: But I'm all for different ways of knowing experience.
Mickorod Renard: for sure
Bruce Mowbray: Drone videos are also a way of knowing, I feel.
Mickorod Renard: yes, another view point/perspective
Bruce Mowbray: Whenever I go out for a walk, I now "see” the world differently - since I've also seen the same areas from above.
Bruce Mowbray: It's like adding a new dimension.
Mickorod Renard: yes, Google Earth has been a stepping stone in that direction too
Bruce Mowbray: Oh YES!
Mickorod Renard: I often check out a place
Bruce Mowbray: You know what I love to do on Google Earth?
Mickorod Renard: whats that?
Bruce Mowbray: I love to visit places I've been before....
Mickorod Renard: ah yes
Mickorod Renard: me too
Bruce Mowbray: like Paris, or Scotland, or my old home town.... or college....
Bruce Mowbray: and see how things have changed.
Mickorod Renard: he he
Bruce Mowbray: and what still seems familiar.
Bruce Mowbray: It's pretty amazing.
Mickorod Renard: also, cos I use sat nav maps so much it helps me to know the terrain before i go somewhere
Bruce Mowbray: Excellent idea.
Bruce Mowbray: I can't travel much anymore...a few road trips by car is all.
Mickorod Renard: otherwise one can be quite blind especially if sat nav fails at the last moment
Bruce Mowbray: (and of course I take along the drone...)
Bruce Mowbray: Good point.
Bruce Mowbray: "Blind," as in going through the experience with tunnel vision.
Bruce Mowbray: Speaking of satellite connections,
Mickorod Renard: we tend to fly indoors at the mo, sometimes in the garden. eventually i will take the kids out and get them to fly in the church grounds
Bruce Mowbray: my present drone flies connected to 18 satellites.
Mickorod Renard: that's amazing
Bruce Mowbray: I was wondering where in London you might be permitted to fly.
Mickorod Renard: I looked it up, its more advanced than ours
Bruce Mowbray: How about Buckingham Gardens?
Bruce Mowbray: ha ha.
Mickorod Renard: i don't think there is much restriction in the UK incl London
Bruce Mowbray: oh really?
Bruce Mowbray: That surprises me.
Mickorod Renard: yes, some places restrictions due to security and health n safety
Bruce Mowbray: Oh yeah, for sure.
Bruce Mowbray: My drone is set up so that it is impossible to fly in No-Flight zones.
Mickorod Renard: should be ok in green park and that would give you good views over Buck palace
Bruce Mowbray: like over military bases, airports, prisons, or within a 35-mile radius of the president.
Bruce Mowbray: No spying on the Queen, now. ;-)
Mickorod Renard: we are pretty free over here and worst case one might get a police man ask you to refrain flying for a reason
Bruce Mowbray: Yes.
Mickorod Renard: I used to fly planes, model..and it was more regulated
Bruce Mowbray: Really?
Bruce Mowbray: There is a model plane runway at a nearby state park.
Mickorod Renard: oh yes, maximum and minimum heights and away from roads
Bruce Mowbray: They fly REALLY big model aircraft from that.
--BELL--
Mickorod Renard: we have one very close to me where they fly huge models and model jets
Bruce Mowbray: Maximum altitude allowed in US is 400 feet (192 meters)
Bruce Mowbray: Wow! My nephew built and flew a jet....
Bruce Mowbray: had to get FAA approval every time he flew it, though.
Mickorod Renard: I was thinking the other day i would like to fly again, i have a spitfire in the garage but my radio is all out of date
Mickorod Renard: wow re nephew
Bruce Mowbray: Hmmm. Well, I hope you dig it out of storage if you want to. The kids would love it, too.
Mickorod Renard: I ought go all electric too
Mickorod Renard: no messy fuel and chopped fingers
Bruce Mowbray: So, "all electric means flying with battery and an electric engine?
Mickorod Renard: yes, they have come on so much these days
Bruce Mowbray: (That's what drones use, of course.)
Mickorod Renard: yes
Bruce Mowbray nods.
Bruce Mowbray: The Mavic 2's batteries last for 31 minutes.
Mickorod Renard: that's impressive
Bruce Mowbray: but I've never flown for that long.
Mickorod Renard: i was impressed at the range too
Bruce Mowbray: I have flown until the drone returns automatically to home because the battery is getting low, though.
Mickorod Renard: I watched a program on tv the other day,,battle of Britain model squadron
Bruce Mowbray: Yes, the range is purported to be five miles, but I've never flown farther than two miles away from home-point.
Bruce Mowbray listens.
Bruce Mowbray: So they re-enact the battle with models?
Mickorod Renard: they got two groups of modelers German and Brits and pitched each against each other
Mickorod Renard: yes
Bruce Mowbray: Amazing!
Mickorod Renard: the sky was full of models and they had laser weapons
Bruce Mowbray: Fun too, I'll bet
Mickorod Renard: so they could knock each other out
Bruce Mowbray: It surprises me that the controllers' signals do not interfere with each other.
Mickorod Renard: it was on our Channel 4, might be on YouTube
Bruce Mowbray: Hmmm, I'll bet it is.
Mickorod Renard: nowadays they have these digital rc
Bruce Mowbray: I can also receive Channel 4 over here.
Mickorod Renard: ahha
Bruce Mowbray: :)
Mickorod Renard: the biggest challenge for them was logistics and was similar to real problems
Bruce Mowbray: I can (sort of) imagine.
Mickorod Renard: like having enough charged batteries and enough pilots etc
Mickorod Renard: flying in formation was hard
Bruce Mowbray: Over here they have Civil War re-enactments - BOOOOORING.
Mickorod Renard: yes, here too
Bruce Mowbray: Hmmmm.
Mickorod Renard: i never tried it
Bruce Mowbray: Holy Clarendon?
Bruce Mowbray: I've been there.
Mickorod Renard: he he , yes?
Bruce Mowbray: The battleground in Scotland.
Bruce Mowbray: Sacred territory to the Scots.
Mickorod Renard: Coloden?
Bruce Mowbray: A couple of folks in our tour group were actually crying when we went there.
Bruce Mowbray: Colenden . . . ?? I forget.
Bruce Mowbray: Coloden... ??
Bruce Mowbray: ???
Mickorod Renard: Culloden Village in Scotland
Bruce Mowbray: where the battle was...
Mickorod Renard: well, there was much butchery there
Bruce Mowbray: that finished off Scottish resistance for good.
Bruce Mowbray: Yes, MUCH.
Mickorod Renard: yes
Bruce Mowbray: Sad.
Bruce Mowbray: I have photos.
Mickorod Renard: the English royals at that time were German
Bruce Mowbray: I have NEVER been able to figure out Scottish history!
Mickorod Renard: and it was the king's brother I think, who was in charge of the bloodshed
Bruce Mowbray: It is SOOOO complicated.
Bruce Mowbray: A messy business, for sure.
Mickorod Renard: yes, i am not to up to date on it
Mickorod Renard: and of course, its written many times by different sides
Bruce Mowbray: I bought a cartoon history of Scotland before I went there - so I could somewhat understand it. . . but it nearly KILT me.
Mickorod Renard: he he
Bruce Mowbray dies from laughing....
Mickorod Renard: its all about power
Mickorod Renard: and greed
Bruce Mowbray: Yes.
Bruce Mowbray: This really should be scotch, not champagne.
Mickorod Renard: they call it religion or nationalism or whatever but its usually people and greed
--BELL--
Mickorod Renard: ah, did you send it Bruce
Bruce Mowbray: No, I was drinking it!
Bruce Mowbray: but I detached it.
Mickorod Renard: i rejected it cos i thought it was odd
Mickorod Renard: ah I see
Mickorod Renard: so how long u been droning?
Mickorod Renard: :)
Bruce Mowbray: about three months.
Bruce Mowbray: Three months -- three drones.
Mickorod Renard: oh, not long..that's impressive
Bruce Mowbray: The one I have now is wonderful.
Bruce Mowbray: an amazing piece of technology.
Mickorod Renard: I have it up on another window
Bruce Mowbray: Cool.
Bruce Mowbray: I almost wrecked it this week.
Mickorod Renard: expensive kit
Mickorod Renard: erk
Bruce Mowbray: (check out "Obstacle Avoidance on the Scioto") http://hermitdog.com/mavic_drones.htm
Bruce Mowbray: Yes, the model I have now cost $1,300
Bruce Mowbray: I don't know what that would be in pounds.
Mickorod Renard: about the same I guess
Mickorod Renard: pound a bit low at mo
Bruce Mowbray: hmmmm.
Mickorod Renard: I see there are different specs
Bruce Mowbray: When I was in the UK last, the pound was = $1.25 USD
Bruce Mowbray: There are two versions of the Mavic 2
Bruce Mowbray: One with the Hasselblad camera,
Bruce Mowbray: and one with the zoom camera.
Mickorod Renard: a pro and non pro?
Bruce Mowbray: I have the zoom.
Mickorod Renard: ah i see
Bruce Mowbray: (It is also cheaper than the other one.)
Bruce Mowbray: by about $300
Bruce Mowbray: Hey, matey, I need to be gone to RL affairs.
Mickorod Renard: https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/smart-tech/smart-tech/smart-toys-and-gadgets/drones/551_4376_31989_xx_xx/xx-criteria.html
Bruce Mowbray: GREAT to see you here, though.
Mickorod Renard: ok Bruce, take care mate
Bruce Mowbray: I've just opened your page.
Mickorod Renard: yes, must get back to visiting
Mickorod Renard: there are at least 2 there
Mickorod Renard: huge dif in price
Bruce Mowbray: Yes, big difference.
Bruce Mowbray: Mine is the one with the zoom lens (the cheaper one).
Bruce Mowbray: So, have a FINE weekend, Mick!
Mickorod Renard: ok, will read up in a bit
Bruce Mowbray: kk.
Mickorod Renard: and you Bruce, take care
Bruce Mowbray: Bye for now, then.
Mickorod Renard: bye
Bruce Mowbray: You take care too!
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