The Guardian for this meeting was Eliza. The comments are by Agatha.
Agatha Macbeth: Hello Tu
Tura Brezoianu: hi Ag
Agatha Macbeth: Brucie :)
Bruce Mowbray's current display-name is "Bruce".
Agatha Macbeth: Wonder where Liz is
Tura Brezoianu: hi Bruce
Bruce Mowbray: Aggers!
Bruce Mowbray: Hi, Tura.
Bruce Mowbray: Here she comes.
--BELL--1.00
Agatha Macbeth: Woot
Aphrodite Macbain's current display-name is "Aph".
Agatha Macbeth: Aphie :)
Bruce Mowbray: Heya, Aph.
Bruce Mowbray: Heya, Eliza.
Aphrodite Macbain: Heya
Agatha Macbeth: And Lizzy ♥
Eliza Madrigal: Hey everybody!
Bruce Mowbray: Thanks for sending along the Gilgamesh links, Eliza.
Agatha Macbeth: Yes, brill
Aphrodite Macbain: Hi Eliza, TUra, Aggers
Bruce Mowbray: I listened to the intro...
Eliza Madrigal: Most welcome. Really it is all Bleu. I just put a pin in things :))
Bruce Mowbray: and the first tablet.
Eliza Madrigal: Oh?
Agatha Macbeth: Keep taking the tablets
Bruce Mowbray: kk, Thanks to Bleu, then.
Eliza Madrigal smiles
Eliza Madrigal: What did you think so far?
Bruce Mowbray: I'm fascinated.
Bruce Mowbray: I love allegories.
Agatha Macbeth: And crocodiles
Bruce Mowbray: This ones an allegory about growing up.
Bruce Mowbray: one's*
Aphrodite Macbain: Interesting. I read the introduction which set things up well
Agatha Macbeth: Can't beat a good epic
Eliza Madrigal: this sounds promising. So far, I've only done a few searches, for things like "Why read Gilgamesh?"
Bruce Mowbray: fur shure.
Aphrodite Macbain: It will keep us warm in November and December
Agatha Macbeth: And the answer is...?
Aphrodite Macbain: 47
Eliza Madrigal: Aph was asking similar questions last session, so that sparked me to poke around a little
Bruce Mowbray: You should TRY to stay warm in Ohio in winter!
Eliza Madrigal: brrr
Bruce Mowbray: yeppers, brrrr, fur shure.
Agatha Macbeth: Down by the banks...
Bruce Mowbray: We got below freezing last night.
Aphrodite Macbain: brilliant blue sky days here. LOts of colour
Agatha Macbeth: Erk
Bruce Mowbray: Same here, Aph. Love it.
Aphrodite Macbain: Warmest October in years
Eliza Madrigal: how lovely
Bruce Mowbray: also same here, but then it got cold.
Aphrodite Macbain: everybody is talking about the color
Eliza Madrigal: I live off of everyone's colorful photos this time of year
Bruce Mowbray: Great for maing drone videos, huh?
Bruce Mowbray: making*
Aphrodite Macbain: sending photos to the local tv station and newspapers
Bruce Mowbray: Oh yeah.
Agatha Macbeth: Wonder if Adams will post any
Aphrodite Macbain: Adams?
Bruce Mowbray: She's a photographer.
Aphrodite Macbain: ah
Bruce Mowbray: :)
Eliza Madrigal: drone videos? Is that what you're up to these days?
Bruce Mowbray: Oh yeah.
Aphrodite Macbain: amongst many things
Agatha Macbeth: Does some great outdoor stuff of NJ
Bruce Mowbray nods.
Agatha Macbeth: Which reminds me I must read her blog again
Eliza Madrigal: Adams' blog is like a second wiki :)
Agatha Macbeth: Truly
Eliza Madrigal: but that was the original PaB vision... everyone's individual blogs
Agatha Macbeth: I wish Wol still did hers
Bruce Mowbray: Hmmm, didn't know that.
Aphrodite Macbain: That must have been waaay back
Eliza Madrigal: all the early PaBers had blogs and the first sessions were notes not chat logs
Bruce Mowbray: Wow.
Eliza Madrigal: I mean session records
Agatha Macbeth: Interesting evolvement
Bruce Mowbray: Evo-Devo.
Eliza Madrigal: it would have been harder to read everyone's blogs every week I think :))
Agatha Macbeth: We are Devo
Bruce Mowbray: Bleu cometh out of the blue.
Aphrodite Macbain: It would have been hard to write them every week!
Agatha Macbeth: Yay
Agatha Macbeth: Oh some did
Eliza Madrigal: it would have! although Aggers is right
Agatha Macbeth: I remember Corvi's well
Bleu Oleander's current display-name is "Bleu".
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Bleu :)
Bruce Mowbray: (I'll. thank her.)
Agatha Macbeth: Bleuji :)
Aphrodite Macbain: Hi Bleu
Tura Brezoianu: hi Bleu
Bleu Oleander: hi all :)
Bruce Mowbray: Thanks for the Gilgamesh links, Bleu.
Agatha Macbeth: Yes thx
Bleu Oleander: yw!
Eliza Madrigal: Bleu and I arrived around the same time, and by then, only a few were keeping regular blogs, but there were the Chronicles (also Adams!), and Scribes
(oh my!)
Bruce Mowbray: Wonder if we might think of a nickname for Gilgamesh.... Takes a while to type it.
Bleu Oleander: lol
Agatha Macbeth: Gil?
Bruce Mowbray: :)
Bleu Oleander: "G"
Bruce Mowbray: G is good.
Eliza Madrigal: hahah
Eliza Madrigal: Gilgamonster
Bruce Mowbray: G is great.
Agatha Macbeth: Might be confused with Gurdjieff then :p
Eliza Madrigal: wait that's longer :P
Bruce Mowbray: Yayyyy G!
Eliza Madrigal: Notorious G
Agatha Macbeth: A tale of 2 Gs
Eliza Madrigal: Hm, still longer
Tura Brezoianu: Gil
Agatha Macbeth: Always makes me think of Gil-Galad
Eliza Madrigal: I like that :)
Bleu Oleander: G Epic
Aphrodite Macbain stretches
Eliza Madrigal: One interesting thing that came up when I searched "Why Read Gilgamesh" was connection with possible alien visitation
Aphrodite Macbain: gilly
Bleu Oleander: EOG = epic of gilgamesh?
Agatha Macbeth: 6 foot Aph
Agatha Macbeth: Really Liz?
Eliza Madrigal: EOG... I like the way that sounds in my mind YOG
Bruce Mowbray listens to possible alien connection.
Tura Brezoianu: Yog-Sothoth
Bleu Oleander: alien visitation?!?!?
Eliza Madrigal: There were all sorts of things, but yes that was in there
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Aphrodite Macbain: He was kinda weird looking- unearthly
Agatha Macbeth: Just don't mention Hastur :p
--BELL--1.15
Agatha Macbeth ponders a little grey Gilgamesh
Bleu Oleander: don't remember 'aliens' in EOG :)
Eliza Madrigal: I took it as a sign that there is something for everyone in there
Aphrodite Macbain: He's bigger than the lion he holds under one arm
Agatha Macbeth: Shades of Von Däniken
Eliza Madrigal: must always keep google handy with you Aggers
Agatha Macbeth: Yes I do go on a bit
Tura Brezoianu: Googling /gilgamesh alien/ turns up a rich vein of ... something.
Eliza Madrigal: you throw out such references
Eliza Madrigal: probably the aliens are fanfiction?
Agatha Macbeth: Enkidu's a lad too
Aphrodite Macbain: A nicer one
Agatha Macbeth: Kind of a Tarzan character
Bleu Oleander: it seems a stretch to say that there are 'aliens' in EOG but might be fanfiction :)
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Agatha Macbeth: Interesting that there was a real Gilgamesh
Aphrodite Macbain: Are we going to advertise this discussion about Gilgamesh beyond Pabber?
Eliza Madrigal: yes
Eliza Madrigal: Stevie has already listed it to begin next week
Bruce Mowbray: Let's do advertise it.
Bleu Oleander: yes Steve will list it
Aphrodite Macbain: great
Bruce Mowbray nods.
Aphrodite Macbain: so I can tell my friends in Italy?
Eliza Madrigal: sure!
Bleu Oleander: and we put a poster in front of the pavilion too
Bruce Mowbray: Fur shure, Aph.
Eliza Madrigal: you always can you know :)
Agatha Macbeth: Mama mia
Aphrodite Macbain: :0)
Eliza Madrigal: Oh, I didn't see the poster yet
Eliza Madrigal zooms around
Aphrodite Macbain: Me neither
Agatha Macbeth: We'll keep the pizza ready
Bleu Oleander: gives out a nc with schedule
Eliza Madrigal: that's great Bleu, thank you. I walked right by it
Aphrodite Macbain: oh. I'll look in my email
Agatha Macbeth: Groovy
Eliza Madrigal: nice image angle, too
Bleu Oleander: it would be fun if some new peeps come
Eliza Madrigal: agreed
Agatha Macbeth studies the notecard
Aphrodite Macbain: That's not Gilgamesh on the poster- it's Asssssssirbanipal
Aphrodite Macbain: an assyrian king
Agatha Macbeth: Old Ash?
Agatha Macbeth: Bless him
Aphrodite Macbain: Good ol
Eliza Madrigal: oh?
Aphrodite Macbain: No
Eliza Madrigal: why's that guy on all the pages then? lol
Aphrodite Macbain: It's one of the Near Eastern sculptures in the Louvrer
Agatha Macbeth: Don't think many of those Mesopotamian kings were 'good'
Aphrodite Macbain: I dont know
Aphrodite Macbain: there are other images of Gilgamesh
Agatha Macbeth: Mostly very Saddam-ish
Aphrodite Macbain: they smote many people
Bruce Mowbray: and crocodiles.
Aphrodite Macbain: and alligators
Agatha Macbeth: Sadly seems to be a national sport in that part of the world
Agatha Macbeth: No different today
Aphrodite Macbain: Like wolf hunting
Eliza Madrigal feels her energy eeking away as mind turns to news
Agatha Macbeth: Eeky energy?
Aphrodite Macbain: come back Eliza!
Bleu Oleander: Ashurbanipal was a king who built a library and had copies of the EOG ... probably wouldn't have know about the story if not for him
Aphrodite Macbain: nods
Agatha Macbeth: Oh he was OK then
Eliza Madrigal lassos her mind
Agatha Macbeth: Anyone who builds libraries is OK
Aphrodite Macbain: Interesting to think of libraries as assemblies of clay tablets
Bleu Oleander: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashurbanipal
Aphrodite Macbain: On heavy rain and poof!
Aphrodite Macbain: One
Agatha Macbeth: Clay lies still but blood's a rover
Tura Brezoianu: The British Museum has a major exhibition on Ashurbanipal coming up in November
Agatha Macbeth: Ooh
Aphrodite Macbain: Cool!
Aphrodite Macbain: You Brits can check it out. They have an amazing collection
Tura Brezoianu: But I think I'm the only one here in easy distance of it.
Bleu Oleander: BM has one of the largest collections of tablets most of which haven't been translated yet
Aphrodite Macbain: Aggers can take the train
Agatha Macbeth: Yeh
Eliza Madrigal: wiki describes that image as "Ancient Assyrian statue currently in the Louvre, possibly representing Gilgamesh"
Agatha Macbeth: Doubtless there'll be something on the net about it
Aphrodite Macbain: In the 60s I studied Sumerian and had cue cards in cuneiform. An absurt thing to do with my time..
Eliza Madrigal: (just deciding whether to leave it up on the schedule page)
Bleu Oleander: yes, I don't think they know for sure 'who' that image is of
Eliza Madrigal: Oh my, Aph
Agatha Macbeth: Oh wonderful Aphie
Aphrodite Macbain: there is a wonderful image of Gilgamesh holding a lion
Agatha Macbeth: Grr
Aphrodite Macbain: I was studying Near Eastern Archaeology
Bleu Oleander: that looks like this image, no?
Eliza Madrigal: maybe that's what throws it into question, the lion factor :)
Agatha Macbeth: An excellent subject
Bleu Oleander: he seems to be holding a lion
Aphrodite Macbain: Great collection of bulls and assyrian heros
Agatha Macbeth: It's not Aslan
Aphrodite Macbain: no
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Eliza Madrigal listens with interest
Tura Brezoianu: Maybe the image was intended to portray Ashurbanipal as Gilgamesh
--BELL--1.30
Aphrodite Macbain: Near Eastern: Ur, Uruk, etc
Agatha Macbeth: Good point
Eliza Madrigal: that's a thought
Agatha Macbeth: Uruk = Iraq
Aphrodite Macbain: I dodubt it
Aphrodite Macbain: Holding a lion was a symbol of strength
Agatha Macbeth: Yep like the girl in the tarot card
Bleu Oleander: G ruled in 2700 BCE way before A
Aphrodite Macbain: nods
Agatha Macbeth: Even earlier than Sargon then
Aphrodite Macbain: He was a myth for a long time
Aphrodite Macbain: yes
Bruce Mowbray: That image came up when I Googled images of Gilgamesh. I doubt that it's authentic -- maybe done very recently.
Aphrodite Macbain: earlier than Sargon
Eliza Madrigal: fantastic image... trying to save it :)
Bleu Oleander: everything is done more recently than G
Aphrodite Macbain: It would be interesting to find out Bruce
Aphrodite Macbain: Sargon of Akkad
Tura Brezoianu: Looks like Gil is overseeing the slaves working to build the walls of Uruk
Bleu Oleander: the story is mostly written down much later than G actually lived
Aphrodite Macbain: Do you think Gil was a real person?
Agatha Macbeth: Like Arthur
Eliza Madrigal: or perhaps a combination of figures?
Agatha Macbeth: He was a king, no?
Aphrodite Macbain: I know but I wonder...
Agatha Macbeth: Aphie in wonder land
Bleu Oleander: I think "they" think he really did exist
Bleu Oleander: the "they" who study that kinda thing :)
Agatha Macbeth: Hard to disentangle myth and history that far back
Eliza Madrigal nods
Bleu Oleander: pre-history for sure
Eliza Madrigal: stories that inflated kings egos tend to get passed down as supernatural myths
Aphrodite Macbain: nods
Eliza Madrigal: but this also seems more complex than that
Tura Brezoianu: According to the intro, the great walls of Uruk have surviving traces from 2700 BC, so if Gil was historical, he would have lived then.
Eliza Madrigal: some not so flattering tales, eh?
Tura Brezoianu: Wikipedia confidently says he was, but [citation needed]
Eliza Madrigal: Ah :)
Bleu Oleander: a lit of ancient Mesopotamian kings from 2nd millennium bce names Gilgamesh
Agatha Macbeth: Oh those citations
Eliza Madrigal: he's in the yearbook
Bleu Oleander: stories were first written around 2100 bce
Bleu Oleander: old versions of the epic date to 1700 bce
Bleu Oleander: but the translation we're reading is from later versions
Aphrodite Macbain: Interesting how his beard is knotted like those of the Assyrian kings .. that's a long time for a style toprevail.
Agatha Macbeth: A knotty problem
Aphrodite Macbain: They must have had great barbers and hair dressers
Bleu Oleander: the work was probably done much later at a time when G couldn't 'sit' for the artist :)
Aphrodite Macbain: I think so Bleu
Bleu Oleander: :)
Aphrodite Macbain: But images of heroes and gods seem to stay the same over time, and are recognizable
Bleu Oleander: the intro to our edition gives a nice history of the epic
Aphrodite Macbain: Yes
Bleu Oleander: just think how many 'looks' Jesus has had over the years and various cultures :)
Eliza Madrigal: he looks like who is looking at him
Aphrodite Macbain: He was clean-shaven in early representations
Bleu Oleander: somehow they always look like the people in the cultures they're from
Agatha Macbeth: Didn't have a knotty beard tho
Aphrodite Macbain: no- he was from a culture further west
Bleu Oleander: wasn't blond either
Eliza Madrigal: >shocked<
Agatha Macbeth: Knotty knotty definitely knotty
Bleu Oleander: it is shocking!!!
Eliza Madrigal smiles
Bleu Oleander: hehe
Aphrodite Macbain: Often god was portrayed with a long beard but christ was beardless
Eliza Madrigal: have to earn your beard by living to old age
Bleu Oleander: not in the movie I saw about him LOL
Aphrodite Macbain: so we could know the difference
Agatha Macbeth: Didn't the archetypal image of Christ come from the Turin shroud?
Aphrodite Macbain: no - in early christian carvings and mosaics
Aphrodite Macbain: much earlier
Bleu Oleander: I saw the earliest wall painting depicting Jesus in the Yale collection ... he was beardless with dark curly short hair :)
Aphrodite Macbain: wish I could remember all the dates...sigh
Aphrodite Macbain: did it say what date Bleu?
Bleu Oleander: 2nd century ce Syria
Bleu Oleander: in a home church
Aphrodite Macbain: k
--BELL--1.45
At this point Wordsmith Jarvinen sends me a pumpkin
Bruce Mowbray: po ?
Bruce Mowbray: pi?
Aphrodite Macbain: a pumpkin tis way comes
Eliza Madrigal: cute :)
Bruce Mowbray: lol
Agatha Macbeth: Have a bit of pi
Aphrodite Macbain: pi!
Aphrodite Macbain: pumpkin pie
Bleu Oleander: sorry have to run ... take care all and see you next week for EOG :)
Aphrodite Macbain: byee
Agatha Macbeth: Aww
Eliza Madrigal: bye Bleu, see you next week
Aphrodite Macbain: waves
Agatha Macbeth: TC Bleu
Bruce Mowbray: bye Bleu. Thanks.
Tura Brezoianu: bye Bleu
Aphrodite Macbain: How is the dream session going? Good attendance?
Eliza Madrigal: I can see that I have catching up to do before next week
Eliza Madrigal: it is going very well, Aph
Eliza Madrigal: the group of us is about 5 or 6 every week, and the development is interesting
Agatha Macbeth: (It's a copyable pumpkin if anyone wants one)
Eliza Madrigal: we're learning a lot
Aphrodite Macbain: I'd come but I hardly ever remember my dreams
Agatha Macbeth: Same here
Eliza Madrigal: Zen is reading the book that Bruce sent the audios about
Aphrodite Macbain: they poof as soon as I wake
Eliza Madrigal: so now we're moving into "healing dreams"
Bruce Mowbray: ahhh!
Aphrodite Macbain: Are there any other?
Eliza Madrigal: I hope you would come anyway whenever you're available
Eliza Madrigal: I think that even when dreams aren't remembered fully, they affect our lives
Aphrodite Macbain: or reflect them
Eliza Madrigal nods
Aphrodite Macbain: I find it amazing how my mind can remember people from my past and bring them into a contemporary dream
Eliza Madrigal: isn't that curious
Agatha Macbeth agrees with Liz
Eliza Madrigal: does that happen for you often?
Aphrodite Macbain: "where did you come from?"
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Bruce Mowbray: It happens for me a lot.
Aphrodite Macbain: Occasionally but I always remember it because it's so strange
Eliza Madrigal: do they seem themselves as you remember them, or to 'mean' something else?
Aphrodite Macbain: I suspect they mean something else although they seem real at the time
Bruce Mowbray: For me, they seem like themselves - as I remember them.
Aphrodite Macbain: Certain old boyfriends keep turning up
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Aphrodite Macbain: or a teacher
Eliza Madrigal: do the teachers say things?
Aphrodite Macbain: they all say things
Aphrodite Macbain: and I talk back
Bruce Mowbray: :)
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Agatha Macbeth: 0.0
Aphrodite Macbain: I'm told I talk and laugh in my sleep constantly
Eliza Madrigal: that's wonderful
Aphrodite Macbain: HArd for anyone in the same room
Eliza Madrigal: especially if you're visiting old boyfriends
Eliza Madrigal: haha
Aphrodite Macbain: :-)
Agatha Macbeth: Oh my
Bruce Mowbray: Oh dear.
Eliza Madrigal giggles
Aphrodite Macbain: I have been forced to sleep in the cupboards occasionally
Agatha Macbeth: Good lord
Eliza Madrigal: What a funny thing, Aph
Aphrodite Macbain: Big cupboards
Aphrodite Macbain: I was at a Zen - week long silent retreat when this happened
Aphrodite Macbain: I ended up sleeping in the cloakroom
Aphrodite Macbain: :)
Bruce Mowbray wonders whether this pumpkin will turn into a carriage. . .
Eliza Madrigal: Can't wait for you to write those stories
Aphrodite Macbain: Write them?
Aphrodite Macbain: where?
Eliza Madrigal: Retreats in general seem to bring strong dream things to the surface, to where one is wondering what is inside or outside
Aphrodite Macbain: yes
Eliza Madrigal: was just remembering we had almost convinced you to write about your life, Aph :))
Aphrodite Macbain: especially when they are silent
Aphrodite Macbain: smiles
Aphrodite Macbain: I plan to write something
Eliza Madrigal: I've never been on a week long silent retreat...would love to
Aphrodite Macbain: The silence is great
Eliza Madrigal: actually would like to go away for 3 months, or.. years
Aphrodite Macbain: No need to make conversation
Aphrodite Macbain: Go away and not speak Eliza?
Tura Brezoianu: sit in a cave in Tibet?
Eliza Madrigal: In a Zen retreat everything is much clearer isn't it... to follow directions, etc
Eliza Madrigal: :) well, speak a little if years
Agatha Macbeth: I'll believe that when I see it
Eliza Madrigal: yes Tura, exactly :)
Aphrodite Macbain: yes. Very structured. No confusion.
Aphrodite Macbain: with a sanga around you
Eliza Madrigal: did you know the others?
Aphrodite Macbain: sitting silently
Aphrodite Macbain: some
Aphrodite Macbain: eating silently
Aphrodite Macbain: walking silently
Aphrodite Macbain: sitting silently
Aphrodite Macbain: so nice
Eliza Madrigal smiles
Aphrodite Macbain: I felt at peace and much stronger afterwards. For about 3 days...
Eliza Madrigal: stronger physically?
Aphrodite Macbain: emotionally
Aphrodite Macbain: peaceful
Aphrodite Macbain: patient
Agatha Macbeth: Makes sense
Eliza Madrigal: enough space to maneuver the bumps
Aphrodite Macbain: somehwat removed
Aphrodite Macbain: yes
Aphrodite Macbain: a distance between me and the world
Aphrodite Macbain: a buffer
--BELL--2.00
Aphrodite Macbain: I recommend it
Aphrodite Macbain: bumps are softer
Eliza Madrigal: It is on my 'list'
Aphrodite Macbain: how long is your list?
Eliza Madrigal: I loved the silent days we had during some pab retreats
Aphrodite Macbain: nods
Eliza Madrigal: not too long, but things seem to take a while anyway :)
Aphrodite Macbain: yes
Agatha Macbeth: True
Bruce Mowbray: Needing to scrape u suer now.
Bruce Mowbray: Be well everyone.
Eliza Madrigal: be well, Bruce!
Agatha Macbeth: Scrape well Brucie
Eliza Madrigal: see you next week :))
Tura Brezoianu: bye Bruce
Bruce Mowbray: _/|\_
Aphrodite Macbain: speaking of things "to do" I have given up moving house until the spring
Aphrodite Macbain: bye Bruce
Agatha Macbeth: Good thinking
Eliza Madrigal: you'll begin looking again?
Bruce Mowbray: Bye for now.
Aphrodite Macbain: yes
Eliza Madrigal: no hurry I guess
Aphrodite Macbain: It was too stressful during the hot summer. So I got this stupid Bell's Palsy
Aphrodite Macbain: I'll work on it during the winder
Aphrodite Macbain: and winter
Eliza Madrigal nods... do it when you feel excited to
Eliza Madrigal: as long as you can care for yourself where you are, no hurry right?
Aphrodite Macbain: right!
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Aphrodite Macbain: It's like falling in love. It happens when things are just right
Eliza Madrigal: let's all move in with Aggers
Agatha Macbeth: 0.0
Aphrodite Macbain: Put me in the cupboard
Eliza Madrigal: in love, Aph? :)
Eliza Madrigal: hahah
Aphrodite Macbain: You "know" if it's right
Eliza Madrigal: ah :)
Agatha Macbeth: Ah
Aphrodite Macbain: Time for me go .... so nice to be here again
Eliza Madrigal: So I can't call you and ask, "Is this right, Aph?"
Eliza Madrigal grins
Eliza Madrigal: Bye for now Aph, see you next week
Aphrodite Macbain: maybe Eliza
Agatha Macbeth: Bye fer noo Aphie
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Aphrodite Macbain: by noo
Tura Brezoianu: bye Aph
Agatha Macbeth: So there we have it
Eliza Madrigal: of all things to be drawn back to sessions by... Gilgamesh
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Agatha Macbeth: Worse things could draw you back
Eliza Madrigal: yep
Agatha Macbeth: I must say I'm looking forward to it
Eliza Madrigal: I'm more interested now
Eliza Madrigal: just want to have the time to enjoy the reading and everything... hopefully it will work out as I plan
Agatha Macbeth: I'm sure it will
Eliza Madrigal: btw, this is one of the pages I looked at and mentioned earlier
Eliza Madrigal: https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-si...c-of-Gilgamesh
Eliza Madrigal: this mentions the aliens and various other associations
Agatha Macbeth: Aha
Agatha Macbeth: Utnapishtim, the guy with the boat
Eliza Madrigal: "Gil and the Boat Guy" an abridged epic by PaB
Agatha Macbeth: Mmhm
Eliza Madrigal: :))
Agatha Macbeth: All good stuff
Agatha Macbeth: Oh I see Eden gets in there again
Eliza Madrigal: noticed that too :)
Agatha Macbeth: Plus ca change, etc
Tura Brezoianu: see you next time, bye for now
Agatha Macbeth: TC Tu
Eliza Madrigal: bye Tura
Eliza Madrigal: see you soon
Eliza Madrigal: And see you soon too, glamorous
Agatha Macbeth: You have a lizard on your leg
Eliza Madrigal: I do :)
Agatha Macbeth: Is it a gekko?
Eliza Madrigal: lizards are messengers, don't you know
Agatha Macbeth: Oh of course
Eliza Madrigal: I don't think it is a gecko...just an average every day lizard
Agatha Macbeth: To the Aztecs? Or somebody?
Eliza Madrigal: all through mexico and parts of south america I think
Agatha Macbeth: Sounds vaguely Mesoamerican
Agatha Macbeth: Yeh
Eliza Madrigal: Certainly in Miami, we are besieged
--BELL--1.15
Eliza Madrigal: which most people aren't that happy about, but I love :)
Agatha Macbeth: Heavy shell fire?
Eliza Madrigal laughs
Agatha Macbeth: Just don't tell Donald
Eliza Madrigal: crawling with them
Agatha Macbeth: Lot of Cubans there too I believe?
Eliza Madrigal: :) lots of everybody
Agatha Macbeth: Interesting
Eliza Madrigal: probably the Cuban community is the most politically active
Agatha Macbeth nods
Agatha Macbeth: Must hear a lot of Spanish there
Eliza Madrigal: people always talk as though hispanic voters are democrats, but not here
Eliza Madrigal: of course, more spanish than english
Eliza Madrigal: which makes it terrible that I've been so terrible at learning it
Eliza Madrigal: it is my one obstacle in upcoming job searching
Eliza Madrigal: so I may have to nudge a bit farther north
Agatha Macbeth: Wisconsin? :p
Eliza Madrigal: but honestly, I like it. most of the people I grew up with moved a long time ago, but miami has changed around me
Eliza Madrigal: brrr
Eliza Madrigal: just upper Florida :)
Eliza Madrigal: unless someone sweeps my off my feet
Eliza Madrigal laughs
Agatha Macbeth: Talla-wotsit
Agatha Macbeth: You could always take the midnight train to Georgia
Eliza Madrigal: Tallahassee? noooo. thinking of just a few hrs north
Eliza Madrigal: :) I did that once
Agatha Macbeth: Really
Eliza Madrigal: sang that song in my mind the whole time... on a greyhound bus
Agatha Macbeth: Hehe
Eliza Madrigal laughs
Agatha Macbeth: The bow tie was really a camera
Eliza Madrigal: ?
Eliza Madrigal: love those sleeves
Eliza Madrigal: you're so dramatic today
Agatha Macbeth: Obscure Simon and Garfunkel reference
Eliza Madrigal: ahhh can't believe I didn't get that
Agatha Macbeth: Dramatic moi?
Eliza Madrigal: I once got a traffic ticket because of Homeward Bound
Eliza Madrigal tells whole live story
Agatha Macbeth: Makes sense :P
Eliza Madrigal: life*
Agatha Macbeth: You were homeward bound too fast?
Eliza Madrigal: I was... driving home from GA, with sleeping kids in the car
Eliza Madrigal: singing like a crazy person
Agatha Macbeth: Not like you at all
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Eliza Madrigal: okay, here goes, bfn and thanks for host/posting
Agatha Macbeth: Okie kokie
Agatha Macbeth: Be well
Agatha Macbeth: Love to George
Eliza Madrigal: you too, get some sleep
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