The Guardian for this meeting was Yakuzza Lethecus. The comments are by Yakuzza Lethecus.

Yakuzza Lethecus: hej bruce
Bruce Mowbray: Heya, Yaku!
Bruce Mowbray: I have just had a visit from the man who farms this land,
Yakuzza Lethecus: hopefully a positive one
Bruce Mowbray: and he told me that this week the sun had the three largest flares ever recorded.
Bruce Mowbray: it was an excellent visit, thank you.
Bruce Mowbray: and that these flares are causing disturbances with the Earth's electronics..
Bruce Mowbray: have you experienced anything?
Bruce Mowbray: I mean anything regarding a disruption of electronic services?
Yakuzza Lethecus: not really, but unstable systems might be more effected
Bruce Mowbray: understandable.
Yakuzza Lethecus: like ur longrange wifi :P
Bruce Mowbray: yes, my Wi-Fi has been affected . . .
Yakuzza Lethecus: might drop a few dezibel in signal strength
Bruce Mowbray: I don't know was whether that's due to sunspots.
Bruce Mowbray: I had to switch to wired connections.
Bruce Mowbray: it's probably just my imagination.
Yakuzza Lethecus: what is ur alternative there, 56k or do u have an ultra slow dsl line in that case
Bruce Mowbray: I get my signal from an antenna on top of the nearby water tower . . .
Bruce Mowbray: I'm sure this sounds very rustic....
Yakuzza Lethecus: in germany we were at the edge for dsl so it was very slow but better then isdn or 56k
Bruce Mowbray: but the signal comes from a tower in the closest village -- about 4 miles away ---
Bruce Mowbray: and I have an antenna on one of my sheds that receives that signal.
Bruce Mowbray: I have no idea whether it's 56K or what
Yakuzza Lethecus: no that was old dialup
Bruce Mowbray: yes I used to have the old dial-up . .
Bruce Mowbray: I remember when we jumped from 14 K (?) something really really slow . . . up to 50 6K.
Bruce Mowbray: I thought I'd been to heaven and back
Bruce Mowbray: 56K*
Yakuzza Lethecus: u mentioned falling back to wired connection and i wondered what ur alternative was there
Bruce Mowbray: while actually it's a wire going from the antenna directly into my computer,
Bruce Mowbray: rather than from the router.
Bruce Mowbray: normally I would run the wire from the antenna into the router,
Bruce Mowbray: which spreads Wi-Fi throughout the house,
Bruce Mowbray: so I can use either this computer ( the desktop) or my laptop -- up front in the living room.
Bruce Mowbray: just a small technicality.
Bruce Mowbray: but both receive signals from the same ISP. . .
Bruce Mowbray: so I doubt that sunspots have anything to do with it.
Yakuzza Lethecus: unlikely but i could imagine that if someone is actually logging could measure some minimal effects, but it would have been more noticable on ur old sat conn
Bruce Mowbray: oh yes! I almost forgot that I used to have a satellite connection.
Bruce Mowbray: it would get disrupted when ever severe weather came through.
Bruce Mowbray: at least my current connection does not get broken by storms.
Yakuzza Lethecus: i was actually wondering how weather stable a 4km wifi is
Yakuzza Lethecus: especially during rain
Bruce Mowbray: (I should have said ' storms on earth' -- don't know about storms on the sun.)
--BELL--
Bruce Mowbray: Actually, I have had this antenna connection with my ISP for over a year - and have experienced many storms - but not a single one of them seems to have broken the connection. When I had a satellite connection, I would go off-line whenever we had a moderate rain storm.
Bruce Mowbray: Yikes!
Bruce Mowbray: ***** APPLAUSE! *****
Yakuzza Lethecus: at my old home i was thinking a lot about how to improve connectivity, but that issue dropped after my last solution was via 3g, but that was so limited that i only used it only for important things while i used dsl for the rest and had to keep the old
Bruce Mowbray: I am afraid that 3G is way way way beyond my capabilities here in southern Ohio.
Wol Euler: hello bruce, hallo yaku
Yakuzza Lethecus: hey wol
Bruce Mowbray: Heya and well met, Wol!
Wol Euler smiles.
Bruce Mowbray: :)))
Yakuzza Lethecus: usa and canada are so modern but still it´s such an open space in some areas
Bruce Mowbray: Well, I guess that ' open space' is relative . . . I only know that I need to see horizons in four directions in order to be sane.
Bruce Mowbray: or relatively sane.
Wol Euler grins.
Bruce Mowbray: WHY does Second Life mix up the order of things that I type in the chat box?
Bruce Mowbray: should I blame that on sunspots, too?
Wol Euler: I need to know that a certain density of bookshops per head of population is met in my immediate vicinity in order to be sane
Bruce Mowbray: an excellent standard, Wol!
Santoshima Resident: 's current display-name is "San".
Bruce Mowbray: Would you believe --- and I am serious about this --- that there is not a single bookstore within 20 miles of my typist's farm?
Bruce Mowbray: San-ji!
Yakuzza Lethecus: well and the digital library´s online ?
Yakuzza Lethecus: hey san
Wol Euler: don't count.
Wol Euler: hello san
Santoshima Resident: hello
Yakuzza Lethecus: well i have an aunt who got bankrupt with her bookstore 2 years ago
Bruce Mowbray: I agree with Wol --- there is something tactile and olfactory and grounded about a physical bookstore.
Bruce Mowbray: a lot of bookstores go bankrupt.
Wol Euler nods.
Santoshima Resident: same for book publishers, small to medium, difficult in the digital age
Bruce Mowbray: and even very large bookstores . . . like Barnes & Noble.
Yakuzza Lethecus: i almost never go to real bookstores, sometimes in shoppingmalls because it´s part of the shoppingexperience
Wol Euler: oh I love them, I can and do spend hours in them
Yakuzza Lethecus: and i rather go through a bookstore then through the shoeshop :P
Wol Euler: hello riddle
Bruce Mowbray: newspapers --- I mean the physical ones -- experience the same problem.
Riddle Sideways: Hi ALL
Santoshima Resident: ditto, Wol, I love bookstores
Yakuzza Lethecus: hey riddle
Bruce Mowbray: , hey Ya, Riddle!
Yakuzza Lethecus: nice to see you :)
Santoshima Resident: hi riddle
Bruce Mowbray: Long time no see!
Bruce Mowbray: errrr, I guess I did see you at the last Guardian's meeting.
Bruce Mowbray: come to think of it.
Riddle Sideways: ah yes, love those disappearing bookstores
Bruce Mowbray: here today, gone tomorrow.
Riddle Sideways: hard to remember
Bruce Mowbray: just like disappearing rabbits . . . hare today, gone tomorrow.
--BELL--
Riddle Sideways: a wonderful 90-sec thinking on hare gone.
Riddle Sideways: ty
Yakuzza Lethecus: pls share about it
Bruce Mowbray: :)
Riddle Sideways: :)
Bruce Mowbray: that was also dedicated to bald men: hair today, gone today.
Bruce Mowbray lessons for more from Riddle
Bruce Mowbray: listens*
Riddle Sideways: :)
Bruce Mowbray: :))
Bruce Mowbray: I guess it's a riddle.
Riddle Sideways: it appears that getting older has this loss of hare thing happening
Santoshima Resident: for some
Riddle Sideways: :p
Bruce Mowbray: I noticed that as I've grown older, all of my rabbits have taken off for the higher ground, as it were.
Yakuzza Lethecus: well bob hoskins is dead
Bruce Mowbray does a quick Google search for Bob Hoskins.
Santoshima Resident: since when?
Yakuzza Lethecus: end of april
Riddle Sideways: roger rabbit guy
Yakuzza Lethecus: exactly
Riddle Sideways: so ... what serious topic are on today
Wol Euler: being one with nature, perhaps?
Bruce Mowbray: http://edition.cnn.com/2014/04/30/sh...t-bob-hoskins/
Bruce Mowbray: or, perhaps, being one with hares.
Yakuzza Lethecus: serious, gosh don´t think we can solve irak, syria, economy, suggestions ?
Bruce Mowbray ponders whether the principal characters involved even want a " solution."
Riddle Sideways: nice
Bruce Mowbray: If we wanted peace -- I mean. if THEY really wanted peace -- it would've happened by now.
Wol Euler: I disagree, bruce, that seems unrealistic to me
Bruce Mowbray: how so, Wol?
Wol Euler: I can't imagine what good a pacifist movement would have done in Poland in 1939 to prevent Stalin and Hitler dividing it up
Yakuzza Lethecus: i wondered a while back about immigration policy of western countries and how much nations filter brain vs need when it comes to refugees, i met quiet some lately and most of them are better educated then i am i´d think so in how much do stable countries profit from crisis through braindrain was a question i had without solution
Riddle Sideways: ::have the log show that much chair playing is going on
Wol Euler nods.
Santoshima Resident: trying to locate a favourite chair gone missing
Bruce Mowbray: I recall agonizing during the Jimmy Carter administration ( mid-70s) about peace talks at Camp David between Palestinian parties and Israelis . . .
Bruce Mowbray: and I also recall being so gratified that a solution -- a so-called solution -- had been reached.
Bruce Mowbray: and all of that has collapsed.
Bruce Mowbray: why? because I don't think the Palestinians and the Israelis it really want to come to peace with each other.
Bruce Mowbray: bickering is preferable....
Bruce Mowbray: even death for a some cause....
Riddle Sideways: Peace seems to have always been an agonizing subject-goal-target
Yakuzza Lethecus: hijacking sans chair :)
Bruce Mowbray: I don't understand it, but it has gone on for decades for generations even for hundreds and hundreds of years.
Santoshima Resident: uite ok
Santoshima Resident: q
Bruce Mowbray: so I'm going to let it go.
Bruce Mowbray: it's not on my agenda of important items.
Bruce Mowbray: and I am busy watching San and Yaku play musical chairs.
Wol Euler smiles.
Santoshima Resident: will find one for anyone wanting one
Bruce Mowbray: and musical sofas!
Riddle Sideways: it might be the old "our side can have peace if you surrender YOUR stupid ways"
Bruce Mowbray: this is amazing! Is this a result of the recent sunspots?
Wol Euler: or the equally old "as long as the military obeys people who have an interest in war, there will be war."
Bruce Mowbray: If those are the terms of peace, Riddle, then that " side" prefers conflict.
Riddle Sideways: this shows too much leg
Bruce Mowbray: yes, Wol, the military establishment(s) is very entrenched on both sides.
Bruce Mowbray: Hey, San! May I have a chair too?
Santoshima Resident: looking
--BELL--
Santoshima Resident: any preference?
Bruce Mowbray: whatever... ha ha.
Yakuzza Lethecus: it creates a different impression of being here sitting differently
Bruce Mowbray: THANK YOU!
Riddle Sideways: all right now
Santoshima Resident: wy, might need to adjust
Wol Euler: nice
Bruce Mowbray: although Blub is a bit confused.
Santoshima Resident: blub is incapable of confusion
Bruce Mowbray wonders what would happen if we didn't oni.
Bruce Mowbray: if we did an oni.
Bruce Mowbray: sry.
Bruce Mowbray: onigokko
Bruce Mowbray: stop
Bruce Mowbray: okay.
Bruce Mowbray: This place is looking more and more like the Riviera . . .
Wol Euler: onigokko
Santoshima Resident: drat wasn't ready
Bruce Mowbray: ;)
Bruce Mowbray: stop
Bruce Mowbray waits for San to get ready.
Riddle Sideways: 8D
Bruce Mowbray: ha ha!
Santoshima Resident: rady edie
Riddle Sideways: :D
Santoshima Resident: e
Bruce Mowbray: kk.
Bruce Mowbray: onigokko
Wol Euler cheers!
Bruce Mowbray: YAYYY!
Santoshima Resident: how funny that this animation makes me laugh every time?
Santoshima Resident: conditioned or what?
Bruce Mowbray: Is this behavior caused by sunspots?
Bruce Mowbray: me too, San, ha ha ha ha!
Riddle Sideways: same answer as last time asked
Santoshima Resident: early exposure to tv cartoons
Wol Euler smiles.
Bruce Mowbray: We did not have TV until I was 14 years old.
Bruce Mowbray: does that count?
Santoshima Resident: oh yes, sounts.will it ever stop?
Yakuzza Lethecus: well by that time it was still in the cinema
Santoshima Resident: sounts = counts
Bruce Mowbray: only if we say
Bruce Mowbray: stop
Bruce Mowbray: Whew!
Yakuzza Lethecus: weren´t there cartoons as premovies in the states too ?
Bruce Mowbray: If they were cartoons on TV, my family didn't see them until I was 14 years old.
Bruce Mowbray: so -- don't know if this counts as early exposure or not.
Santoshima Resident: early enough
Yakuzza Lethecus: i meant as cartoon ahead of a movie in the cinema
Bruce Mowbray: ;-)
Santoshima Resident: yes, riddle, that seems tight
Bruce Mowbray: Yes, my typist was still quite impressionable throughout his adolescence.
Santoshima Resident: tight = right
Santoshima Resident: < can't type
Bruce Mowbray: neither can my typist. ha ha.
Bruce Mowbray: I need to fire him and find a new one.
Riddle Sideways: so are the new animated movies = cartoons?
Wol Euler: I would say no, they are feature films that just happen to be painted
Wol Euler: the "old" cartoons were shorts, special events before the feature
Bruce Mowbray: I would classify them as long- duration cartoons . . . although they are not really aimed at humor, actually. At least some of them are not.
Wol Euler: some anime is very serious
Bruce Mowbray: indeed.
Riddle Sideways: some cartoons have been not humorus too
Riddle Sideways: Dilbert is funny while reading. And then 'oh no' that is my office
Wol Euler nods.
Bruce Mowbray wonders if children who has been raised on comic books have an exclusive ' literacy' --
Bruce Mowbray: have been*
Bruce Mowbray: perhaps I should've said a " limited literacy" -- able to comprehend cartoons, but not to comprehend print.
Bruce Mowbray: Yikes!
Wol Euler: I don't wish to spend all night disagreeing with you, bruce :) but there are a lot of words in many cartoons. Granted they tend to be short and repetitive, but at least the kids are reading
Bruce Mowbray: My chair is eating me!
Bruce Mowbray: good point, Wol.
Bruce Mowbray: and I stand corrected!
Santoshima Resident: that's what i meant about "adjust" Bruce.
Bruce Mowbray: and happily so.
Wol Euler: kids who read cartoons worry me far less than those who don't read anything at all
Santoshima Resident: yes
Wol Euler: readers can broaden their experience; non-readers probably won't
Bruce Mowbray: I am just now thinking that there is a great deal of reading required in comic books.
Riddle Sideways: getting the young to start having fun reading habits
Wol Euler: right!
Wol Euler: which comic books are far more likely to do than bloody Julius Caesar
Bruce Mowbray I remember that in our home, we had " classic comics." --
Bruce Mowbray: these were comic book versions of classic literature.
--BELL--
Riddle Sideways: ah, Tale of two Cities as a fun read
Bruce Mowbray: and were the basis of my own literacy -- well, my typist's literacy, as it were.
Bruce Mowbray: yes!
Yakuzza Lethecus: who here is waiting for winds of winter ?
Wol Euler: what is that?
Wol Euler: next GoT?
Yakuzza Lethecus: exactly
Wol Euler: then: yesssssssssssssssssss
Bruce Mowbray: winter?!
Yakuzza Lethecus: it´s propably one the most popular fantasy series right now, bruce, a song of ice and fire
Riddle Sideways: Outlander (sp?) is coming
Wol Euler: I bought the first GoT in an airport, thinking it would be useful trash to fill a flight, but got totally hooked
Bruce Mowbray: hmmmm.
Bruce Mowbray: I am so out of it!
Bruce Mowbray: will research " Winds of wWnter" on Google
Wol Euler: also known as Game of Thrones
Bruce Mowbray: oh!
Wol Euler smiles.
Bruce Mowbray: don't know about that one, either . . . although I've heard a lot about it.
Wol Euler: one of those books that has many differnt names
Bruce Mowbray: no cable TV out here in the boonies.
Bruce Mowbray: oh a book!?
Yakuzza Lethecus: nah, series are still on book 3
Yakuzza Lethecus: since the author is slow they started splitting books in 2 seasons
Bruce Mowbray: It's time for my typist to be scraping up dinner.
Bruce Mowbray: so I shall bid you all adieu.
Santoshima Resident: bye bruce
Santoshima Resident: i better get back to cleaning ... clearing out the clutter ... i'll come back and get the chairs later ...
Bruce Mowbray: and wish you a happy weekend!
Yakuzza Lethecus: bye bruce
Riddle Sideways: GoT series (only watched 2 epi) seems to have all the characters wrong
Riddle Sideways: not like in this head
Wol Euler: bye san! take care
Santoshima Resident: bfn ~ happy weekend!
Yakuzza Lethecus: bye san
Yakuzza Lethecus: good to see you again riddle
Riddle Sideways: thanks for the chair, sitting and chat ya'll
Riddle Sideways: by by
Wol Euler: this is going to be a problem, they won't self-destruct
Yakuzza Lethecus: but they might be fun for the next visitors too
Riddle Sideways: and won't return
Wol Euler: or not
Yakuzza Lethecus: well it would be an experiment
Riddle Sideways: how many times ya came in here and found prev sesssion had a greater time
Riddle Sideways: and left their toys around
Wol Euler: hehehe
Riddle Sideways: buy buy
Wol Euler: anyway, not my circus, not my monkeys.
Wol Euler: Itoo shall move on
Wol Euler: goodnight all,. take care!
Yakuzza Lethecus: take care you both