The Guardian for this meeting was Lucinda Lavender. The comments are by Lucinda Lavender.

Lucinda Lavender: morning Yaky....:)
Lucinda Lavender: Yaku...
Yakuzza Lethecus: well yaky didn´t sound that bad either :P
Lucinda Lavender: :) my typing...
Lucinda Lavender: fingers are cold from being outside feeding the chickens...
--BELL--
Lucinda Lavender: shall warm up with more coffee
Yakuzza Lethecus: yes, i just got another cup as well
Yakuzza Lethecus: before i was in a pretty interesting and emotional session about homeschooling, that´s not allowed in germany btw
Lucinda Lavender: Hi Eliza:)
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Luci and Yaku
Yakuzza Lethecus: hey eliza
Lucinda Lavender: we are having coffee...
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Yakuzza Lethecus smiles
Yakuzza Lethecus: with milk in my case
Yakuzza Lethecus: without sugar
Lucinda Lavender: no homeschooling in Germany...ah
Yakuzza Lethecus: well the guy who mainly spoke is a teacher himself going to do that in austria soon because he´s not pleased with the schoolsystem there
Lucinda Lavender: nodding
Yakuzza Lethecus: the children talking about ipads on the schoolyard and in the school it´s like babytalk as he put it
Eliza Madrigal: People need to have ways to get around the system outside of just 'lots of money'
Eliza Madrigal: so I agree with homeschooling, even tried it
Eliza Madrigal: that said, I understand the limitatins, possibly better than someone looking from the outside
Eliza Madrigal: *limitations
Lucinda Lavender: limitations...an example?
Eliza Madrigal: ah, well for example yes there are social groups for homeschoolers but they can be heavily weighted with one ideology etc
Eliza Madrigal: it is difficult to maintain inclusive groups
Lucinda Lavender: right...have imagined that
Eliza Madrigal: also, it does end up costing quite a bit to make sure bases you've never heard of are covered...
Yakuzza Lethecus: well, metaverses might have an impact on that as well
Eliza Madrigal: :) our kids surpass us
Eliza Madrigal: agree Yaku
Eliza Madrigal: online, I had *wonderful* resources
Eliza Madrigal: and access to excellent conferences, etc
Yakuzza Lethecus: a french teacher sitting in france teaching children from all around the world while noone knows who is in which socio economic class
Eliza Madrigal: and, then there is the issue of someone has not to work, or to work from home, to be there with kids
Lucinda Lavender: nodding
Yakuzza Lethecus: noone will care who is immigrant
Eliza Madrigal: yes
iwandertoo Resident: waves
Eliza Madrigal: Have you seen Kahn Academy?
Yakuzza Lethecus: the concept even ain´t exist
Lucinda Lavender: hi Arch:)
Yakuzza Lethecus: yes i think
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Arch and Susan :)
Yakuzza Lethecus: hey susan,arch and obs
Lucinda Lavender: HI Susan:)
Eliza Madrigal waves to obs
Lucinda Lavender: hi Observerm
Eliza Madrigal: Kahn Academy is a Utube phenomenon... began with an uncle tutoring his neice I think... then she had to go home at a distance, so he started putting up short lessons
Eliza Madrigal: mostly Math
Archmage Atlantis: There is a time when the observations are complete
Lucinda Lavender: sounds interesting...
Eliza Madrigal: these short lessons caught on like wildfire, the simplicity of them... so now there is a whole system, etc
Archmage Atlantis: There is a time when the decision can be made
Lucinda Lavender: very cool...
Eliza Madrigal: yes, the revolution of going at one's own pace
Lucinda Lavender: Hi Bleu:)
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Bleu :)
Bleu Oleander: hi everyone :)
iwandertoo Resident: waves
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Riddle :)
Riddle Sideways: Hi EveryBody
Lucinda Lavender: WE have been speaking of the options of homeschooling...and it limitations as well and benefits
Lucinda Lavender: as well as...
Lucinda Lavender: HI Riddle
Eliza Madrigal: I think having a taste of homeschooling is useful, because the kids then go into school with a sense of their learning being their own responsibility
Lucinda Lavender: benefit...interesting word
Lucinda Lavender: yes I sure can see that...
Eliza Madrigal: but I guess that would depend on the message given. a teacher can give that message too
Eliza Madrigal: :))
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Sharon
SophiaSharon Larnia: hi everyone, wow big crowd this morning :)
iwandertoo Resident: waves
Lucinda Lavender: true :)
Bleu Oleander: hi Sharon
Archmage Atlantis: The circle is not complete
Lucinda Lavender: :)
Yakuzza Lethecus: hey bleu,ssl, riddle
Lucinda Lavender: challenges in education...
Bleu Oleander: hey Yaku
--BELL--
Riddle Sideways: like any school, homeschooling depends on the teachers and the students: energy, skills, etc.
Archmage Atlantis: silence
Lucinda Lavender: perhaps some children benefit from staying in a smaller circle to begin with and then socially expanding at a later time..can see that too.next pause I would ask what the first thing you notice is...
Archmage Atlantis: Thank you, m bell
Eliza Madrigal: agree.. think the 'knowing there are options' part is *most* important
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Lugh, ltns
Lucinda Lavender: Hello Lugh:)
Yakuzza Lethecus: hey lugh
SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Lugh
Bleu Oleander: hi Lugh
Lugh Fehr: helloww :)
Archmage Atlantis: Lugh, you are a child to me........I am near 60
Lucinda Lavender: I noticed that I notice sounds...
Riddle Sideways: Hi SS and Lugh
Lugh Fehr: hehe ahh where all eternal so age dont matter :D
Archmage Atlantis: I talk to those here who are near 80
Lucinda Lavender: in 2L?Arch? just curious...
Archmage Atlantis: Good answer Lugh
SophiaSharon Larnia: (brb)
Eliza Madrigal: the maker of the 'waiting for superman' documentary starts off by driving by the public school he wants to believe in, to take his kids to a private school, and feeling guilty about it :) I did that with charter schools
Lucinda Lavender: noddding...have not seen it...
Lucinda Lavender: there was an interesting sound!
Eliza Madrigal: someone brought their inner elephant
Archmage Atlantis: That is a balance, I would take my children to the safe place
Lucinda Lavender: :)))
Riddle Sideways: not /me
Eliza Madrigal: :))
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Xirana
Yakuzza Lethecus: good afternoon xirana
Bleu Oleander: hi Xirana
iwandertoo Resident: waves
Lucinda Lavender: HI xirana:)
Lugh Fehr: hey xirana
SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Xirana
Archmage Atlantis: I would also allow my chidren to see all places are safe
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Riddle Sideways: Hi X
Archmage Atlantis: All are to be of learning
Xirana Oximoxi: hi Riddle:)
Eliza Madrigal: it is kind of a rorshack topic
Lucinda Lavender: how so?
Riddle Sideways: interesting
Riddle Sideways: what you see or what you look for
Eliza Madrigal: each person with their own experiences and paradigms, sees it in their own way
Eliza Madrigal: yes
Archmage Atlantis: I was tinking digeredoo, but rorchack works also
Eliza Madrigal: 'we see the world not as it is but as we are'
Eliza Madrigal: hah Arch
Lucinda Lavender: nodding
Lugh Fehr nods
Archmage Atlantis: Hail, Eilza
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Lucinda Lavender: am trying to think...what was the first thing that excited me in school...
Archmage Atlantis: I can answer that, Lucinda, you began to see
Lucinda Lavender: :)
Eliza Madrigal: sweet early teachers maybe?
Lucinda Lavender: ah yes
Eliza Madrigal: so you became one? :)
Yakuzza Lethecus: hey boxy
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Boxy
iwandertoo Resident: waves
Lucinda Lavender: brb
Lucinda Lavender: brb
Bleu Oleander: hi boxy
Xirana Oximoxi: hi Boxy:)
SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Boxy
Lucinda Lavender: boxy:)
Xirana Oximoxi: hi Koya:))
Lucinda Lavender: thinking ...
Archmage Atlantis: You continue to grow, Alfred, the sami speak throug u
--BELL--

Lugh Fehr: hey boxy and koya
Alfred Kelberry: hi :)
Alfred Kelberry: happy anniversary! :)
Lugh Fehr: ill sneak off im realy sleepy and finding it hard to keep me eyes open :P cya poeple
SophiaSharon Larnia: bye Lugh
Bleu Oleander: cya Lugh
Xirana Oximoxi: bye Lugh..sñeep well:)
iwandertoo Resident: waves
Xirana Oximoxi: *sleep
Yakuzza Lethecus: bye lugh
Riddle Sideways: bye lugh, hi box
Alfred Kelberry: cute elephant :)
Alfred Kelberry: um...
Alfred Kelberry: what's the topic?
Riddle Sideways: who annivers
Alfred Kelberry: *watches eliza drinking tea*
SophiaSharon Larnia: and wheres the elephant?
Alfred Kelberry: *points to riddle*
Riddle Sideways: nope
Bleu Oleander: is there an elephant in the room?
Alfred Kelberry: :)
SophiaSharon Larnia: haha
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Riddle Sideways: gorilla?
Alfred Kelberry: a little one
Xirana Oximoxi: hehe
Eliza Madrigal: we only see the effects of the elephant not the elephant itself
Lucinda Lavender: have call...
Riddle Sideways: :)
SophiaSharon Larnia: ok i wasnt sure if you were talking about an elephant avi :)
Alfred Kelberry: sophia, i sort of was
SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
Alfred Kelberry: it's not visible right now
Riddle Sideways: nope, heard a elephant
SophiaSharon Larnia: heh
Alfred Kelberry: heh, fun to see eliza sipping her tea :)
Eliza Madrigal: elephant rorshack
Riddle Sideways: the blind do not see the elephent
Eliza Madrigal giggles
Alfred Kelberry: sun!
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Sun :)
SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Sun
Sunshine Vayandar: meep!
Alfred Kelberry: :)
Yakuzza Lethecus: hey sun
iwandertoo Resident: waves
Sunshine Vayandar: hi everyone ;)
Bleu Oleander: hey Sun
Xirana Oximoxi: hello Sun:)
Sunshine Vayandar: nice to see u all ;)
Riddle Sideways: hi sun
Eliza Madrigal: saved you two seats to choose from
Lucinda Lavender: HI sun:)
SophiaSharon Larnia: have to go, have fun all :))
Sunshine Vayandar: ;) waiting for the seats to rez
Riddle Sideways: is Koya the heffilump noise?
Eliza Madrigal: Bye Sharon :)
Alfred Kelberry: eliza, it looks like a maltesian dress :)
Sunshine Vayandar: take care Sharon ;)
Bleu Oleander: bye Sharon
Xirana Oximoxi: bye Spphia
SophiaSharon Larnia: bye :)
Yakuzza Lethecus: bye ssl
Alfred Kelberry: neko girl, be good
Sunshine Vayandar: hi Bleu ;)
Eliza Madrigal: this dress is actually russian Alfred, according to the site :)
Alfred Kelberry: ah, ok :)
Eliza Madrigal: :))
Alfred Kelberry: sun's dress looks gypsy :)
Eliza Madrigal: yes
Sunshine Vayandar: ;) gypsy girl
Alfred Kelberry: :)
Alfred Kelberry: ruffles
Sunshine Vayandar: I still can't see everyone I hope I don't sit on someone hmm
Eliza Madrigal: you chose a good spot Sun
Riddle Sideways: boxy, your dress looks ... ummm... what is the right word?
Alfred Kelberry: :)
Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
Eliza Madrigal: hehe
Alfred Kelberry: riddle :)
Sunshine Vayandar: hehe
Alfred Kelberry: boxish :)
Sunshine Vayandar: yes it is boxish
Riddle Sideways: good enough
Archmage Atlantis: gotts to clean 17 yo cat poo, and koi need to be.....I don't know what they need, I feeek they beed ne ti ibserver tgus oabit
Alfred Kelberry: bad kitty
Eliza Madrigal: Bye Arch :)
Riddle Sideways: bye Arch
Xirana Oximoxi: bye Arch:)
Sunshine Vayandar: take care Arch ;)
Riddle Sideways: how did we go from homeschooling, waiting for superperson to 17 yo cat poo?
Eliza Madrigal: it is always a good question, strangely
Sunshine Vayandar: hmm interesting topics
Alfred Kelberry: hyperlinks, riddle
Yakuzza Lethecus: was the cat homeschooled ?
Eliza Madrigal: :) haha
Lucinda Lavender: Had to take a phone call...sorry
Sunshine Vayandar: lol
Xirana Oximoxi: :)
Sunshine Vayandar: np Luci ;)
Lucinda Lavender: the rare call from brother
Alfred Kelberry: ah, nice
Lucinda Lavender: which is nice...
Eliza Madrigal: Oh, yes those are important to answer
Sunshine Vayandar: I am still waiting for that call hmm
Alfred Kelberry: luci, does he know about sl?
Lucinda Lavender: :)...he is not interested in computer I think...
Lucinda Lavender: loves to listen to music and movies...12 years older than I
Xirana Oximoxi: yes! important... my sister call me almost everyday.. my two brothers never do... may it be a matter of gender?
Yakuzza Lethecus: i still wonder who here is talking about secondlife in real life open ?
Alfred Kelberry: xir :)
Lucinda Lavender: I am
Sunshine Vayandar: I wish had sisters Xir ;p
Xirana Oximoxi: I don't Yaku... at least not of all I hhave seen in SL :)
Xirana Oximoxi: I can be your sister Sun!!! :)) qhere there are more than two always more are welcomed
Sunshine Vayandar: I don't really talk about SL since most people have no idea what it is
Eliza Madrigal: :))
Sunshine Vayandar: yay ;) hi sister ;)
Lucinda Lavender: in the sense that when something intI know what you mean...
Lucinda Lavender: I may describe it to a few friends...
Xirana Oximoxi: nice Sun:) now... call us everyday:)))
Eliza Madrigal: yes I talk about it with some friends but it is rarely a long conversation
Xirana Oximoxi: between us:)
Yakuzza Lethecus: yes, when i try to explain i usually end up in mmorpg addiction discussions, so i hardly talk about sl
Sunshine Vayandar: hehe ;)
Lucinda Lavender: ah
Sunshine Vayandar: it's like belonging to a secret cult
--BELL--

Lucinda Lavender: :)
Xirana Oximoxi: I think some people understand sl.. and other people will never do... at first I didnt'
Riddle Sideways: like any other subject, alas
Eliza Madrigal: sometimes what I like to do with rl friends, is to say 'wow I just came from this concert on a cliffside...." etc. and then wait a long time before filling in the background :) That way I get to paint a picture before they close off.
Bleu Oleander: interesting new book on virtual world "Infinite Reality" by Blascovish and Bailenson .... might help in talking about it :)
Alfred Kelberry: meep!
Lucinda Lavender: sounds interesting Bleu:)
Eliza Madrigal: it does!
Xirana Oximoxi: oh! ty Riddle.. I will try to find it...
Riddle Sideways: ty bleu
Lucinda Lavender: nice idea Eliza...
Xirana Oximoxi: sorry.. I meant ty Blue:))
Riddle Sideways: :)
Xirana Oximoxi: but ty Riddle too... anyway:)
Riddle Sideways: :)
Xirana Oximoxi: I don't understand the feelings one can have in SL
Xirana Oximoxi: so near true
Lucinda Lavender: finding a place to play...
Xirana Oximoxi: and we don't have a lot of references about the other one
Riddle Sideways: ha, there is a "trailer" for the book... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYGaPPhqpdE
Xirana Oximoxi: and I'm still surprised about what Arch said one day... words are only 8% of human comunication
Sunshine Vayandar: today I went back to the SL university where I used to have my building school - they had a lecture about rainforests ...
Eliza Madrigal: I can only read the book if it doesn't play that music, hehe
Xirana Oximoxi: I think it may be more
Sunshine Vayandar: that reminded me how much can be done in SL
Riddle Sideways: yes, X am still processing that statement
Xirana Oximoxi: I may be oldfashioned... but it's the first time I see a trailer of a book:)
Lucinda Lavender: Ha Eliza:)
Xirana Oximoxi: I'll see it later... ty Riddle
Lucinda Lavender: I must go now but wish all the best...
Eliza Madrigal: a wonderful topic Sun
Sunshine Vayandar: my first time too ;)
Eliza Madrigal: Thanks Luci, nice to see you
Xirana Oximoxi: bye Luci
Xirana Oximoxi: take care:)
Sunshine Vayandar: byebyee Luci enjoy the weekend
Bleu Oleander: thanks Riddle ... hadn't seen that
Lucinda Lavender: thank you...namaste.
Bleu Oleander: bye Luci
Riddle Sideways: ah must go now
Riddle Sideways: bye and thanks
Yakuzza Lethecus: byle all leavers
Eliza Madrigal: Bye Riddle :))
Sunshine Vayandar: byebyee Riddle
Eliza Madrigal: thanks
Xirana Oximoxi: byebye Rid.. take care too:)
iwandertoo Resident: waves
Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
Sunshine Vayandar: interesting video
Eliza Madrigal: what is so strange, is that I seem to have a few friends who say 'I wish I could go to this kind of thing or that kind of thing' but they won't try a virtual avenue
Eliza Madrigal: they seem addicted to the wishing
Sunshine Vayandar: hmm yes I notice that a lot
Sunshine Vayandar: ppl have all these dreams
Sunshine Vayandar: but would never try and do something to get there
Bleu Oleander: people are hesitant to try new technology
Eliza Madrigal nods
Eliza Madrigal: maybe it is intimidating...
Sunshine Vayandar: I was running my internet cafe for 10 years in this small town - and even after 10 years I saw so much resistance
Xirana Oximoxi: I've talked about it to a friend that is living a bad moment in her life... I think it can hekp her.. but she doesn't
Xirana Oximoxi: I feel I've learnt a lot of thinks in SL... about myself, and also about others
Sunshine Vayandar: me too ...
Eliza Madrigal: have been thinking about your cafe and 'open learning' and the Indian cafe in Hungary, Sun...
Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
Eliza Madrigal: like SL, the feeling of open sharing
Eliza Madrigal: lots of various education levels, skill sets, backgrounds, ages...
Sunshine Vayandar: yes I basically learnt about open source software and wanted to do the same in RL ....
Sunshine Vayandar: so the idea come from the net
Eliza Madrigal: yes
Sunshine Vayandar: such an open international environment
Eliza Madrigal: I like the idea that everything is already included even instructions in open source ... that's one of the first things I noticed about SL, people came here to be generous
Sunshine Vayandar: hi Aph ;)
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Aph :)
Xirana Oximoxi: hi Aph
Bleu Oleander: hi Aph
iwandertoo Resident: waves
Sunshine Vayandar: yes Eliza ;) so many classes free materials
Xirana Oximoxi: Eliza... here there is all kind of people... like in RL
Eliza Madrigal: so like there are all these people whose biggest problem in life, is that they want to share
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Xirana Oximoxi: a lot of wonderful people, of course... but one must be careful too
Yakuzza Lethecus: hey aph
Sunshine Vayandar: how are you Aph ;)
--BELL--

Aphrodite Macbain: hi all. I'm well thanks. slowly fixing
Eliza Madrigal: good to hear, Aph :)
Sunshine Vayandar: great to hear ;)
Aphrodite Macbain: :-)
Aphrodite Macbain: time, rest and sunshine!
Sunshine Vayandar: Eden is ready for prim workshop
Eliza Madrigal: MMMM, good mantra
Sunshine Vayandar: so I go see what she has in mind
Eliza Madrigal: Oh, yes, someone wake boxy
Aphrodite Macbain: :-)
Aphrodite Macbain: when?
Xirana Oximoxi: bye sister Sun:)
Eliza Madrigal: near the party area?
Sunshine Vayandar: bye sister Xir ;))
Aphrodite Macbain: Bye
Aphrodite Macbain: Bye! dear sun
iwandertoo Resident: waves
Eliza Madrigal: Bye guys :) hehe Yaku
Bleu Oleander: nice Yaku :))
Xirana Oximoxi: ok... take care all.. and nice weekend!
Sunshine Vayandar: see u all soon - going to the Common
Yakuzza Lethecus: bye all leavers
Aphrodite Macbain: what are you shooting Yaku?
Alfred Kelberry: hi :)
Sunshine Vayandar: take care all stayers
Yakuzza Lethecus: waking the boxy :)
Sunshine Vayandar: salakhale - as they say in SA
Alfred Kelberry: *sees yaku with a gun* ah, i missed all the fun
Aphrodite Macbain: salakhale!
Yakuzza Lethecus: well, i through you lemmings on your forehead :)
Alfred Kelberry: :)
Yakuzza Lethecus: keyword was prim workshop
Alfred Kelberry: so, let's jam a bit, yaku? :)
Aphrodite Macbain: lemmings huh?
Alfred Kelberry: i wish i could play "red house" by hendrix
Alfred Kelberry: yes, 8 am
Alfred Kelberry: oh, wait!
Alfred Kelberry: it's now! :)
Yakuzza Lethecus smiles at boxy :)
Alfred Kelberry: ok, i'll go hang there see if anyone comes :)
Alfred Kelberry: you're free to join guys :)
Aphrodite Macbain: where Boxy?
Aphrodite Macbain: It's you and I Susan!
Alfred Kelberry: damn, my new prim landmark doesn't work
iwandertoo Resident: yes
Alfred Kelberry: it's at the party sight
iwandertoo Resident: they aare all attending a building class?
Aphrodite Macbain: ah! Oak Tree Common!
Alfred Kelberry: i guess :)
Alfred Kelberry: yes, oak
Aphrodite Macbain: next to me
Alfred Kelberry: right
Alfred Kelberry: :)
Alfred Kelberry: please come susan
Alfred Kelberry: if you like
iwandertoo Resident: i've not yet learnt the basics of building...
Aphrodite Macbain: I may check it out too
iwandertoo Resident: :)
iwandertoo Resident: best to you
Aphrodite Macbain: It's worth watching Susan. Want me to TP you?
iwandertoo Resident: yes, please
iwandertoo Resident: thank you
iwandertoo Resident: thank you
Aphrodite Macbain: ok cu in a sec
iwandertoo Resident: k