2011.04.29 01:00 - Have you had Breadfruit?

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Pema Pera. The comments are by Pema Pera.

    Pema Pera: hi Pila!
    Pila Mulligan: hi Pema
    Pila Mulligan: how are you?
    Pema Pera: oh, fine, and you?
    Pila Mulligan: I'm fine thanks
    Pila Mulligan: up late to watch the nuptials
    Pema Pera: (^_^)
    Pema Pera: I remember the previous ones quite well, about thirty years ago
    Pila Mulligan: yes, big deals at the time
    Pila Mulligan: then they fade :)
    Pila Mulligan: any more aftershcoks in Tokyo?
    Pema Pera: about one a day or so
    Pema Pera: but I'm now in Kyoto, which is far quieter
    Pila Mulligan: that's difficlut
    Pema Pera: people get used to it, interestingly
    Pila Mulligan: yes, we have two or three startling ones a year
    Pema Pera: we humans can get used to many things
    Pila Mulligan: I imagine daily they would get used to them
    Pema Pera: how strong?
    Pila Mulligan: 4 to 5
    Pila Mulligan: enough to make you notice
    Pema Pera: that's about what we get daily, yes
    Pema Pera: the frequency is about 30 times normal
    Pila Mulligan: so the normal souns like a bit more than here
    Pema Pera: used to be more than 100 times normal, a month ago
    Pema Pera: slowly tapering off
    Pila Mulligan: earth is a vibrant place
    Pema Pera: yes, Japan is about the most active part of the Pacific Ring of Fire
    Pema Pera: three plates colliding
    Pila Mulligan: ahh
    Pila Mulligan: not just one lifting over another
    Pema Pera: probably the reason for there to be such larges islands in the first place :)
    Pila Mulligan: you know I am not familiar with the tectonics here ... I've just always assumed it was lava motin, but it must be more
    Pila Mulligan: somethibng to google
    Pema Pera: :)
    Pila Mulligan: the USGS is always reporting lava expansion and contraction levels
    Pila Mulligan: magma actually
    Pema Pera: the reason for Earthquakes in Japan is the fact that there is a huge fish living under the islands, and occasionally it wakes up and moves a bit
    Pema Pera: it is called Namazu
    Pila Mulligan: :) like grandmother spider and turtle island for some native amercians
    Pema Pera: and Namazu is known for redistributing wealth
    Pila Mulligan: I really appreciate the personaifaction asepct, expecially Pele
    Pema Pera: taking away from the rich and giving to the poor
    Pila Mulligan: yes, they have mortals it seems
    Pila Mulligan: morals too :)
    Pila Mulligan: morals*
    Pema Pera: the rich lose their buildings during an earthquake
    Pila Mulligan: levelling ;)
    Pema Pera: and that creates jobs for the poor, who will do the rebuilding
    Pema Pera: yes
    Pema Pera: may not work for nuclear power plants . . . .
    Pila Mulligan: the interesting thing is that the perosnaifcation aspect is so wasy and feels natural
    Pila Mulligan: nope, probably not
    Pema Pera: yes
    Pila Mulligan: easy*
    Pila Mulligan: there is a beautiful remote beach south of here, south of the volcano
    Pila Mulligan: a develpoer was going to develop a large resoirt there
    Pila Mulligan: it would have ruined the polace
    --BELL--
    Pila Mulligan: two years ago Kiauea opened a second vent
    Pila Mulligan: it started flodoing the area with vog
    Pila Mulligan: the developer said we're out of here
    Pila Mulligan: the vog sotpped
    Pema Pera: the mountain used tear gas? how modern!
    Pila Mulligan: :)
    Pila Mulligan: it worked :)
    Pema Pera: are you still working on your property?
    Pema Pera: or are you happy with your builts as is?
    Pila Mulligan: I asked a Hawaiian freind a few years ago if he wanted help opopsing the devleopment, and he said don't woory it wont happen
    Pila Mulligan: yes, the work continues, slowly
    Pila Mulligan: I am happy wiht it
    Pema Pera: only gardening to do?
    Pila Mulligan: well, and a kitchen
    Pila Mulligan: :)
    Pila Mulligan: the kitche cabinets are still bookshelves
    Pila Mulligan: green house is in the plan
    Pema Pera: oh, how nice!
    Pema Pera: what will you grow?
    Pila Mulligan: salad stuff ... bug proofing them
    Pema Pera: (and I thought Hawaii was green enough already without green house)
    Pema Pera: ah!
    Pila Mulligan: it is very green
    Pila Mulligan: year round bugs too :)
    Pema Pera: ah, so green houses are reverse prisons then
    Pila Mulligan: yes
    Pila Mulligan: only problem seems ot be plination
    Pila Mulligan: pollination
    Pila Mulligan: no bees get in
    Pila Mulligan: realizng the bug problem I shifted to planting fruit tree a year ago
    Pila Mulligan: they are estbalished now so back to the salads
    Pema Pera: any plans for beans and such?
    Pila Mulligan: yes, that will be later -- corn and soybeans
    Pila Mulligan: it is more like famrinig
    Pila Mulligan: larger scale
    Pila Mulligan: have you had breadfruit?
    Pema Pera: I'm not sure
    Pema Pera: what does it look like?
    Pila Mulligan: it is a tree fruit, looks like a big potato or something rounded, tastes a little like eggplant
    Pila Mulligan: delcious
    Pema Pera: sounds good!
    Pila Mulligan: and taro and sweet potatoes
    Pila Mulligan: those were hawaiin staples
    Pema Pera: oh, great!
    Pila Mulligan: yummy
    Pema Pera: will you grow those?
    Pila Mulligan: yes
    Pema Pera: is that hard?
    Pila Mulligan: not at all
    Pila Mulligan: they are more bug proof
    Pila Mulligan: taro makes nice veggiue burgers
    Pila Mulligan: how was Assisi?
    Pema Pera: a great experience, in many ways
    Pema Pera: talking about food:
    Pila Mulligan: :)
    Pema Pera: it was by far the best cuisine of any RL PaB retreat so far
    Pila Mulligan: it s northern?
    Pema Pera: a lovely location too
    Pila Mulligan: is it*
    Pema Pera: it's North of Rome, South of Florence
    Pema Pera: Perugia
    Pila Mulligan: did you visit Franciscan laces?
    Pila Mulligan: places*
    Pema Pera: yes
    Pema Pera: it was my third visit
    Pema Pera: so I was quite familiar with the area
    Pila Mulligan: nice
    Pema Pera: even with all the many tourists, it is still a wonderful place
    Pema Pera: with a very special atmosphere
    Pila Mulligan: I bet the oldness helps
    Pema Pera: funny thing is that in the main church there is a loudspeaker saying "silence" in Italian about once every minute
    Pila Mulligan: haha
    Pila Mulligan: that is funny
    Pema Pera: but like a scare crow, the birds get used to it
    Pema Pera: and just lower their voice slightly, periodically
    Pema Pera: Italians can't imagine being together without talking
    Pema Pera: they're rather stop breathing
    Pila Mulligan: :)
    Pila Mulligan: pizzas?
    Pila Mulligan: for food
    Pema Pera: not us
    Pema Pera: wonderful farm vegetables
    Pila Mulligan: oh, better
    Pema Pera: vegetarian deligths
    Pema Pera: much much better!
    Pila Mulligan: Italians certainly can cook
    Pema Pera: yes!
    Pema Pera: each evening the cheerful woman in the kitchen had a long conversation with us about all the many dishes she wanted to cook for us the next day
    Pema Pera: it was like following a cooking class
    Pila Mulligan: :)
    Pema Pera: but without having to do the cooking :-)
    Pila Mulligan: I would have been takingnotes
    Pila Mulligan: I recently got a pzza baking stone
    Pila Mulligan: it has a nice effect
    Pema Pera: do you heat the stone?
    Pila Mulligan: yes, it sits in the oven to preheat
    Pila Mulligan: highets temperature
    Pila Mulligan: the pizza only take a few muntes thne
    Pema Pera: a thin one, then
    --BELL--
    Pila Mulligan: yes, I prefer them, but it seems to wokr for any style
    Pila Mulligan: thin pizzas I prefe, the stone is about 3/4" thick
    Pema Pera: well, I'll have to get going
    Pila Mulligan: nice to see you Pema
    Pema Pera: good seeing you here!
    Pema Pera: are you still watching the nuptials?
    Pema Pera: are haven't they started yet?
    Pila Mulligan: yes, on You Tube, live
    Pila Mulligan: 30 minutes
    Pema Pera: well, congratulations, I guess :-)
    Pila Mulligan: I guess :)
    Pema Pera: c u
    Pila Mulligan: mazel tove
    Pila Mulligan: bye

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