The Guardian for this meeting was Zen Arado. The comments are by Zen Arado. Present were Xirana Oximoxi and myself.

I had been talking to Xirana at a new place where we both have small galleries:

Zen Arado: Hi Xirana :)
Zen Arado: I have another exhibition next month and guy wants 50%
Zen Arado: the woman at Rose Theatre gave me instructions
Zen Arado: it doesn't matter
Zen Arado: I know
Zen Arado: but nothing will sell anyway :)
Zen Arado: usually around 20-30% where I live
Zen Arado: art club takes nothing
Zen Arado: that is what they give you at Rose Theatre
Zen Arado: and another notecard too
Zen Arado: very detailed
Zen Arado: I am getting that I don't want to be bothered :)
Zen Arado: especially if I have to use commission scripts
Zen Arado: and it gets hard even to get friends to look at the paintings
Zen Arado: they have seen most of them before
Zen Arado: ah a restart
Zen Arado: can go to my place?

There was a region maintenance period here:

Zen Arado: wb Xirana :)
Xirana Oximoxi: wb too Zen :)
Zen Arado: you can try that video any time you want to
Zen Arado: we used to rent movies and show them
Zen Arado: but always some problems
Xirana Oximoxi: ok, thank you... before you have gone I was telling you that I don't think I will come to watch TV in SL.... but maybe it's also a good way to share it with friends:)
Zen Arado: some people's computers take a long time to get the movie
Xirana Oximoxi: seeing a film together
Xirana Oximoxi: yes... I think it can be a big problem
Xirana Oximoxi: slow internet connexion
Zen Arado: or slow computer
Xirana Oximoxi: is the weather also so cold in Ireland these days?
Xirana Oximoxi: yes, slow computer too
Zen Arado: yes cold today only 5 C
Xirana Oximoxi: when I use my laptop I can only come and sit and chat...
Zen Arado: and windy
Zen Arado: I just bought a new laPtop
Zen Arado: very fast
Xirana Oximoxi: I don't like windy... gives me headache, and we've had two awful windy days very very cold
Xirana Oximoxi: I have a now computer too..faster than the other one, but where I live the internet connexion is not the best
Zen Arado: I have fast connection too
Zen Arado: 40 Mbits

We discuss my Art of Being piece:

Xirana Oximoxi: are you inspired to create a work expressing 'hapiness' ? :)
Zen Arado: I did one
Zen Arado: but might add to it
Xirana Oximoxi: ohhh ... I must concentrate on it ..still no ideas
Xirana Oximoxi: ahhhh interesting
Zen Arado: simple
Xirana Oximoxi: but, maybe it can also mean 'emptyness?
Zen Arado: I like simple :)
Zen Arado: yes
Xirana Oximoxi: no 2I2, no "desires" ?
Xirana Oximoxi: "I"
Zen Arado: wanting things to be different from what they are makes us suffer
Xirana Oximoxi: I don't think the 'want' is a bad way to get hapiness... we want thigns to cahge for better (for exemple)

Xirana Oximoxi: what may be wrong is to want 'impossible' things... one must be realistic too... but desire keeps us going on
Zen Arado: yes but that is a different want in a way
Zen Arado: doing things to improve our situation is ok
Zen Arado: but if we always something different we are dissatisfied
Zen Arado: want*
Xirana Oximoxi: ah yes..in this sense it's true
Zen Arado: being content with what we haveis happiness
Zen Arado: and the 'I' makes us suffer too
Zen Arado: we compare ourselves with others
Zen Arado: or worry about how we seem to others
Zen Arado: become 'self' ish
Zen Arado: separate ourselves from others
Xirana Oximoxi: only concentrating in ourselves is what this sentece says...it leads to 'eg'...but somehow one must be taking care of oneself to also be well and have thiongs to share with others
Xirana Oximoxi: 'ego'
Zen Arado: yes it is a bit simplistic
Zen Arado: but it points to things that make us unhappy
Zen Arado: I think
Xirana Oximoxi: we need others and specailly to be accepted by others
Zen Arado: yes
Zen Arado: and to see self and others as the same
Zen Arado: ?
Xirana Oximoxi: yes...the sentence is a good one... but as always the words can be understood in different ways...they give us a 'begin' to think about
Zen Arado: yes
Xirana Oximoxi: :)
Zen Arado: not a rigid rule
Zen Arado: a kind of suggestion
Zen Arado: where to look
Xirana Oximoxi: impossible to find a rigid rule talking about such an abstract and subjective subject as it is 'happiness' :)
Zen Arado: yes
Xirana Oximoxi: these days we talk about it..and it's easy to see each one understand it with subtle differences
Zen Arado: I think we arehappy naturally but do thngs that make us unhappy
Xirana Oximoxi: in what sense?
Zen Arado: yes...we can't even define 'happiness'
Zen Arado: if we stop doing things that make us UNhappy, then our natural happiness will surface
Zen Arado: thatt is one reason I do meditation
Xirana Oximoxi: well...our natural hapiness' is something I have not clear :)
Zen Arado: I see things making me unhappy
Zen Arado: I could be wrong :)
Xirana Oximoxi: do you do things that make you unhappy?
Zen Arado: I think so
Zen Arado: I worry for example
Xirana Oximoxi: ahhh ok :) yes... now I understand :)
Zen Arado: pae exemplo :)
Zen Arado: par
Xirana Oximoxi: muy bien :)
Xirana Oximoxi: por*
Zen Arado: my Spanish guitar teacher used to say :)
Xirana Oximoxi: por ejemplo :)
Zen Arado: par exemplo
Zen Arado: ok
Xirana Oximoxi: 'par exemple' is French
Zen Arado: oh
Xirana Oximoxi: :) we mix now :)
Zen Arado: I forgot
Zen Arado: :)

Language larning :)

Xirana Oximoxi: do you learn at the French chat or is it too easy for you?
Zen Arado: long time ago

Zen Arado: I think I will try Intermediate this week
Xirana Oximoxi: good :)
Zen Arado: I think I can read Intermediate but not so sure if I can understand speech so well
Zen Arado: but I will try to see
Xirana Oximoxi: you try:) yes!
Xirana Oximoxi: I will go now Zen! have anuice time!! and see you soon!:)
Xirana Oximoxi: nice
Xirana Oximoxi: au revoir:)
Xirana Oximoxi: a+
Xirana Oximoxi: :)
Zen Arado: ok ty for coming Xirana :)
Zen Arado: a bientot :)
Xirana Oximoxi: yw!! :) bye bye..take care :)
Xirana Oximoxi: oui
Xirana Oximoxi: :)