2013.10.18 13:00 - Funny How It All Comes Apart

This session was posted from the auto-listener database and began with private conversation. After which, we picked up with...

[13:29] Eliza Madrigal: oh... is anyone going to Burn2 events this weekend?
[13:31] Wol Euler: oh, I didn't even know it was on
[13:31] Zen Arado: Burn2?
[13:31] Eliza Madrigal: SL's version of Burning Man
[13:32] Wol Euler: the "we aren't allowed to call it Burning Life any more" show
[13:32] Eliza Madrigal: :) one year Boxy and I tried to go together but couldn't get into anything..so full
[13:32] Wol Euler: yeah always a horror trip of lag
[13:32] Wol Euler: we euros may have a timezone advantage :)
[13:32] Yakuzza Lethecus: hey ari
[13:33] Arisia Vita: greetings all
[13:33] Wol Euler: sneak on at 2am SL time
[13:33] Wol Euler: hello ari!

[13:33] Eliza Madrigal: Hi Ari..ltns you not blue
[13:33] Zen Arado: Hi Ari
[13:33] Arisia Vita: a little change adds spice to life :)
[13:33] Eliza Madrigal: :)
[13:33] Wol Euler smiles.
[13:33] Eliza Madrigal: what does a lot of change do?
[13:34] Zen Arado: you go mad
[13:34] Wol Euler: make the pot boil over?
[13:34] Arisia Vita: makes friends ask that question :)
[13:34] Eliza Madrigal: :)

[13:34] Zen Arado: maybe it's always a lot of change
[13:34] Zen Arado: but we don't like to know that
[13:35] Zen Arado: try to anchor it all down safely
[13:35] Eliza Madrigal: not sure... in my life I've often erred on the side of hoping for more change than I can realistically handle
[13:35] Eliza Madrigal: of being ahead of myself
[13:35] Zen Arado: the kind of change we WANT though
[13:35] Zen Arado: not those other awful things
[13:35] Wol Euler: yeah, really
[13:35] Zen Arado: :)
[13:36] Wol Euler: and that filtering causes such unhappiness
[13:36] Eliza Madrigal: well true... I don't hope for awful things :)
[13:36] Wol Euler smiles.

[13:36] Zen Arado: I know and I still kepp doing it
[13:36] Yakuzza Lethecus: hey san
[13:36] Wol Euler: hello san
[13:36] Eliza Madrigal: Hi San :)
[13:36] Zen Arado: HHi San
[13:36] Santoshima Resident: hello everyone :)
[13:36] Zen Arado: filtered life
[13:37] Zen Arado: just let the good things through
[13:37] Eliza Madrigal: :) funny... there was kind of line like that at the beginning of session before you were here
[13:38] Eliza Madrigal: about choosing whether to complain or not :)

[13:38] Eliza Madrigal: San, on a phone viewer?
[13:38] Santoshima Resident: nope
[13:38] Zen Arado: yeh part of her legs missing
[13:38] Zen Arado: maybe
[13:38] Santoshima Resident: hmm
[13:38] Zen Arado: no?
[13:39] Zen Arado: ah legs back now
[13:39] Santoshima Resident: phew
[13:39] Eliza Madrigal: ah, better

[13:39] Zen Arado: I usually just complain ayway
[13:40] Zen Arado: maybe I should start choosing
[13:40] Zen Arado: but can I choose to choose?
[13:40] Zen Arado: 2nd order choices

[13:40] Eliza Madrigal: well if that can be endlessly traced it might as well be null
[13:41] Zen Arado: never gets past 3rd order
[13:41] Wol Euler: you can choose to see that there is a choice, that is definitely true
[13:41] Zen Arado: don't know why
[13:41] Zen Arado: want to want to want
[13:42] Zen Arado: funny how it all comes apart when you think about these things

[13:42] Eliza Madrigal: how is OF going? what time are you meeting now?
[13:42] Zen Arado: going fine
[13:43] Zen Arado: we meet at 12.30 Wednesdays
[13:43] Eliza Madrigal: that's true, Zen... stopping for a moment and inquiring can be so odd.. interrupting the train of thought. The other day Wol said something about going back to something formerly given up and having lost the taste for it... and there is that sense... interrupting / suspension

[13:43] Arisia Vita: why must it come apart?
[13:44] Eliza Madrigal: Oh...good time now... still openings?
[13:44] Zen Arado: don't know Ari..for me it just does
[13:44] Wol Euler nods.
[13:44] Arisia Vita: choose otherwise then... :)
[13:44] Zen Arado: better ask the boss Eliza
[13:44] Eliza Madrigal: :)
[13:44] Arisia Vita: who is the boss?
[13:44] Eliza Madrigal: yeah... have to really think about it... not easy for me but before the time was impossible
[13:44] Zen Arado: Cal or Darren
[13:46] Zen Arado: perhaps I can't choose Ari
[13:46] Zen Arado: my disposition makes me inquisitive

[13:47] Eliza Madrigal: well if you know that inquiring unravels eventually to a kind of open endedness... why not just cut through and start with open endedness

[13:47] Zen Arado: I/m sure you would be welcome if you can make it Eliza
[13:48] Zen Arado: yeh but maybe we need to travel the path
[13:48] Eliza Madrigal: that's nice of you to say Zen... not necessarily but maybe I will IM Cal and see
[13:48] Zen Arado: to get bak where we started
[13:48] Eliza Madrigal: must be hard to incorporate new people after so long together
[13:48] Zen Arado: it's not that
[13:49] Zen Arado: the nature of the group is that we don't want lots just dropping in and out
[13:49] Wol Euler nods.
[13:49] Santoshima Resident: true
[13:49] Eliza Madrigal nods
[13:49] Zen Arado: because we share confidential things
[13:49] Eliza Madrigal: well you know me... am really unpredictable :P
[13:49] Eliza Madrigal: (not)
[13:49] Zen Arado: predictably unpredictable?
[13:50] Zen Arado: heh
[13:50] Eliza Madrigal: :)
[13:50] Eliza Madrigal: but life is sort of up in the air at the moment... maybe I'll give a few months before knocking on the door
[13:50] Zen Arado: yeh moving house is a stressful time
[13:51] Santoshima Resident: anytime is ok ... whenever you feel inclined to join
[13:51] Eliza Madrigal: thanks... did enjoy the one "open house" of the group
[13:52] Zen Arado: actually Cal mentioned asking you one time
[13:52] Eliza Madrigal: was a long time ago I'm sure.. we talked once
[13:53] Zen Arado: not that long ago
[13:53] Zen Arado: we have been going maybe 2 1'2 years
[13:53] Eliza Madrigal: it is the kind of support I need.. to slow down and consider one thing longer... and maybe the thing I'm most interested in is group sharing and dynamics
[13:54] Zen Arado: yes
[13:54] Eliza Madrigal: I used to think I was a rather introverted and solitary person
[13:54] Zen Arado: and it can be deeper somehow
[13:54] Zen Arado: I don't know what 'I' am
[13:54] Eliza Madrigal: maybe both are needed?
[13:54] Zen Arado: keep changing
[13:55] Zen Arado: just be whatever it is :)
[13:55] Eliza Madrigal: maybe the pathways between right and left more open from SL :) some strange in between world
[13:55] Zen Arado: because it will change again
[13:55] Eliza Madrigal: well I never thought I'd see you in such a shirt...that's for sure
[13:56] Eliza Madrigal grins
[13:56] Zen Arado: heh doing a Latin set tonight
[13:56] Wol Euler: O.O
[13:56] Wol Euler: okaaaaaay
[13:56] Wol Euler: oh, latin music
[13:56] Wol Euler laughs.

[13:56] Eliza Madrigal: its great... wonder if I can dance without getting dizzy
[13:56] Wol Euler: I thought you meant lyrics in latin
[13:56] Eliza Madrigal: what did you think Wol?
[13:56] Wol Euler: duh
[13:56] Eliza Madrigal: oh
[13:56] Eliza Madrigal: Zen's mass
[13:56] Wol Euler mutters to self "what century is this?"
[13:57] Zen Arado: that would be rather difficult
[13:57] Zen Arado: :)
[13:57] Zen Arado: remember bit from Life of Brian
[13:57] Wol Euler smiles.
[13:58] Zen Arado: John Cleese chastising guy writing on wall
[13:58] Wol Euler: right :)
[13:58] Zen Arado: reallt funny
[13:58] Zen Arado: I learned Latin at school
[13:59] Zen Arado: don't think it is taught much now

[13:59] Wol Euler: my clever niece taught herself Latin with "Haraldus Potterus" and a dictionary
[13:59] Zen Arado: amo amas amat amamus amatis amant
[13:59] Yakuzza Lethecus: hmm that almost calls to end this session with this youtube video
[13:59] Yakuzza Lethecus: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJUhlRoBL8M

[13:59] Zen Arado: yes?
[14:00] Yakuzza Lethecus: if zen´s session starts at 2 pm as a precondition
[14:00] Yakuzza Lethecus: :P
[14:00] Zen Arado: yeh I better go though Sunji is starting
[14:00] Zen Arado: byee
[14:00] Arisia Vita: see you there soon Zen
[14:00] Yakuzza Lethecus: bye zen
[14:00] Eliza Madrigal: Heraldus Potterus, heheh... yes very clever :)
[14:00] Wol Euler: see you soon
[14:00] Eliza Madrigal: bye Zen
[14:01] Santoshima Resident: bye
[14:02] Eliza Madrigal whistles
[14:03] Wol Euler grins.

[14:04] Yakuzza Lethecus: ok, so i hope everyone will have a good weekend and propably till the guardian session
[14:04] Wol Euler nods.
[14:04] Wol Euler: take care, yaku, and schöne grüße zuhause
[14:04] Yakuzza Lethecus: bye for tonight, mach ich :)
[14:04] Santoshima Resident: thanks Yaku! and so long everyone ~ take care
[14:04] Eliza Madrigal: night everyone
[14:05] Eliza Madrigal: tacke care
[14:05] Eliza Madrigal: -c
[14:05] Wol Euler: tacky=
[14:05] Arisia Vita: I'm off to paradise... :)
[14:05] Wol Euler: ah :)
[14:05] Eliza Madrigal: hehe
[14:05] Wol Euler: me too
[14:05] Wol Euler: goodnight!
[14:05] Eliza Madrigal: happy dancing