2014.04.06 07:00 - Lots of interesting ideas

The Guardian for this meeting was Bleu Oleander. The comments are by Bleu Oleander.

Agatha Macbeth: Hello Bleuji
Bleu Oleander: 's current display-name is "Bleu".
Bleu Oleander: hey Aggers :)
Agatha Macbeth: Just us then?
Bleu Oleander: so far but I wouldn't say "just"
Bleu Oleander: :)
Agatha Macbeth: Liz usually comes along I think
Bleu Oleander: yes
Bleu Oleander: so are u partied out?
Agatha Macbeth: Oh yes it was great
Bleu Oleander: indeed!
Agatha Macbeth: I think a party is just enough, no need to be extravagant
Bleu Oleander: yes :)
Bleu Oleander: was a lot of fun
Agatha Macbeth: Looks like PP are having one next month too yay
Bleu Oleander: I was at PP once or twice but don't really know what goes on there
Agatha Macbeth: It's basically a meeting place that Mira runs I think
Bleu Oleander: people build there as well?
Agatha Macbeth: Bert does his meditations there
Bleu Oleander: ah ok
Agatha Macbeth: Think so yes
Agatha Macbeth: Sun is there a lot I think
Bleu Oleander: i'll have to check it out again
Agatha Macbeth: Yes it's nice
Agatha Macbeth: Fael and Arch used to be there a lot when they were here
Bleu Oleander: so all of PaB goes there?
Agatha Macbeth: Hmm, not everybody, but a lot do
Agatha Macbeth: Quite a few go to Bert's meditation
Bleu Oleander: is that where the flying feather is?
Agatha Macbeth: Yes!
Bleu Oleander: :)
Agatha Macbeth: I've been on it several times
Bleu Oleander: I was on it once
Agatha Macbeth: Lizzie! ♥
Eliza Madrigal: 's current display-name is "Eliza".
Bleu Oleander: hey Eliza
Eliza Madrigal: Morning Aggers, Bleu :)
Bleu Oleander: love your boots :)
Agatha Macbeth: Looking very blonde
Eliza Madrigal smiles... thank you! love your picture of my boots ^.^
Bleu Oleander: hehe
Bleu Oleander: sometimes details tell more about the story
Eliza Madrigal: Aggers in green - nice
Eliza Madrigal: so agreed
Agatha Macbeth: Green goddess ;-)
Eliza Madrigal smiles
Eliza Madrigal: sorry to be late... hope not interrupting
Agatha Macbeth: We haven't really started yet
Eliza Madrigal: ok
Agatha Macbeth: Just talking about PP
Agatha Macbeth: And next month's b'day
Eliza Madrigal: ah :)
Bleu Oleander: when is that?
Eliza Madrigal: we run parallel with them almost
Agatha Macbeth: May 14 I think
Agatha Macbeth: But celebs will be on weekend before I think
Eliza Madrigal: gardens planted around the same time
Agatha Macbeth nods
Bleu Oleander: celebs?
Agatha Macbeth: Party in other words :p
Bleu Oleander: :)
Agatha Macbeth: Dunno what they have planned yet
Agatha Macbeth: Deefer is coordinating it apparently
Agatha Macbeth: Hello E
Bleu Oleander: hey Eos :)
Eliza Madrigal: I know so few people there now... arrived to an entirely naked party the other day, thinking I was dropping in on Zen's set
Eliza Madrigal: Good Morning Eos :)
Agatha Macbeth: Haha
Bleu Oleander: Ha!
Agatha Macbeth: Yes Zen is there a lot
--BELL--
Eos Amaterasu: ah... hi Ags, Eliza, Bleu
Agatha Macbeth: How's the weather in NS?
Eos Amaterasu: there was a half hour of sunshine an hour ago or so
Bleu Oleander: :)
Agatha Macbeth: No snow then?
Eliza Madrigal: and now?
Eos Amaterasu: lag
Eos Amaterasu: not all gone yet....
Bleu Oleander: same ol' beautiful sunny weather here :)
Eliza Madrigal: today in Miami too, as far as I can tell so far - birds chirping
Agatha Macbeth loves chirping birds
Bleu Oleander: lots chirping here too
Eliza Madrigal: *feel alive*
Agatha Macbeth: Don't think I'd like to somewhere where the weather was predictable
Agatha Macbeth: be*
Bleu Oleander: as long as predictably beautiful ... ok
Agatha Macbeth: Mmm, but I do like rain
Bleu Oleander: but do miss the seasons
Bleu Oleander: my tolerance for rain, even though we need it, has gone down considerably
Eliza Madrigal: me too... long for something I've never had (or, have visited but not lived in)
Eliza Madrigal: but I like rain a lot
Agatha Macbeth: I'd hate to live on the equator with no seasons
Agatha Macbeth: Days always the same length
Eliza Madrigal: aw... Eos's connection is choppy today - internet weather
Agatha Macbeth: Oh dear
Agatha Macbeth: Hope the bears didn't get him
Bleu Oleander: :)
Eliza Madrigal: hahaha
Eliza Madrigal: he would have had to have let them in
Agatha Macbeth: Who's been eating my blueberries?
Eliza Madrigal made blueberry muffins two days ago so... me!
Agatha Macbeth: Yum
Bleu Oleander: and me on my oatmeal this morning
Eliza Madrigal: so we're keeping our blueberry practice
Bleu Oleander: hehe
Agatha Macbeth: Berry good
Agatha Macbeth: Maybe need to import some rotting logs too

Bleu Oleander was at such a great event last night
Agatha Macbeth: Oh?
Bleu Oleander: https://origins.asu.edu/events/great...ity-and-future
Eliza Madrigal clicks
Agatha Macbeth: SL?
Bleu Oleander: one of the take-aways .... eat fish
Agatha Macbeth: WB E
Bleu Oleander: ha!
Bleu Oleander: live at ASU
Eliza Madrigal: but um... mercury? poisons in oceans?
Eos Amaterasu: :-)
Agatha Macbeth: Ick
Eliza Madrigal: WB Eos - hope connection is smoother now
Bleu Oleander: seems fish helps prefrontal cortex work better
Bleu Oleander: so helps control the out-of-control
Agatha Macbeth: I must have more fish
Eos Amaterasu eats Faroe Islands salmon
Eliza Madrigal: have taken fish oil caplets for a decade... not sure it is working, lol
Bleu Oleander: are you "acting out" a lot?
Agatha Macbeth: Well you haven't grown any fins yet :p
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Bleu Oleander: anyway ... really interesting ideas and great presenters
Agatha Macbeth wonders how Blub is

Bleu Oleander: worth looking them up and reading about their work
Eliza Madrigal: how does eating fish relate to being less violent?
Agatha Macbeth: Yeh good question
Bleu Oleander: by helping your prefrontal cortex work better
Agatha Macbeth: Hmm
Bleu Oleander: your "control" mechinism
Agatha Macbeth: Sounds good
Eliza Madrigal: so like traction when driving uphill?
Agatha Macbeth: Will go down well with a few loaves :p
Bleu Oleander: at the very least we should feed our children better
Agatha Macbeth: Oh yes absolutely!
Eliza Madrigal: for sure...
Agatha Macbeth: Lay of the big macs and the coke for a start
Bleu Oleander: but prisoners too apparently
Agatha Macbeth: off*
Agatha Macbeth: Fast food is addictive
Eliza Madrigal: it really doesn't serve our whole society to eat in a packaged way
Bleu Oleander: Pinker's research on violence is amazing
Bleu Oleander: stats sooo interesting
Eliza Madrigal: yes, optimistic
Eliza Madrigal: I'm a little skeptical but he makes a good case
--BELL--
Agatha Macbeth: Which Parker is this Bleu?
Bleu Oleander: "civil resistance" works much better than violence ... Steven Pinker
Agatha Macbeth: Satyagraha
Bleu Oleander: much more successful
Bleu Oleander: more inclusive civil spirit
Eos Amaterasu: resistance with conversation

Bleu Oleander: has anyone read any of Kim Stanley Robinson's books?
Eos Amaterasu: truth _force_
Eos Amaterasu: yes
Eliza Madrigal: I have not
Bleu Oleander: he was great
Eliza Madrigal listens
Bleu Oleander: i'll def look up his books
Bleu Oleander: very positive about the future ... everyone
FcSeeker Resident: 's current display-name is "FcSeeker".
Eos Amaterasu: hi fx
Agatha Macbeth: FC ♥
Eos Amaterasu: fc
Eliza Madrigal: I've taken a sort of turn toward watching media that is more violent in some ways than what I used to be drawn to... am examining myself, thinking, around that as it goes
Eliza Madrigal: Hi FC :)
Agatha Macbeth: Sound FX

Bleu Oleander: and no one mentioned religion ... positively or negatively ... thought that was interesting
FcSeeker Resident: Eos'¨
FcSeeker Resident: Eliza
Eliza Madrigal: wow, Bleu... surprising

FcSeeker Resident: Agatha
FcSeeker Resident: Bleu
Agatha Macbeth absorbs the hearts
Bleu Oleander: hi Fc

Bleu Oleander: some new research on watching violent media Eliza
Bleu Oleander: seems violent videos don't influence violent behavior in the same way as commonly thought
Agatha Macbeth wonders if we should move FC's cushion to this side
Bleu Oleander: some new research showing that it may even influence in a positive way

Eliza Madrigal doesn't have ownership rights... think it is Bruce's arrangement
Agatha Macbeth: Ah ok
FcSeeker Resident: smiles to the birds who do fly ***<3<3<3***
Eliza Madrigal: Steven King wrote a great essay on his feelings about that a long time ago... and I disagreed with him at the time... but..
Eliza Madrigal: now I'm sort of balancing out a barrage of cliche' positivity.. or, something

Bleu Oleander: http://bit.ly/1jK6xJn

Bleu Oleander: good conversation on violence ... Pinker and Wrangham were two of the speakers at the event I was at last night

Eliza Madrigal: it is an important question though... especially since VR is about to be a lot more tangible... feeling bullets, etc
Bleu Oleander: we were at a dinner the night before with everyone
Bleu Oleander: and someone at my table was talking about VR
Bleu Oleander: wow some cool stuff coming!
Eliza Madrigal: yes!
Bleu Oleander: but fears of addiction
Eliza Madrigal: of course!
Eliza Madrigal: I fear my own addiction ^.^
Bleu Oleander: so great everyone will be caught
Eos Amaterasu is addicted to this virtual reality
Bleu Oleander: this is nothing compared to whats coming haha
Eliza Madrigal smiles... so imagine... can just step through and visit someone ...
Eliza Madrigal: we'll all be living in one another's houses
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Bleu Oleander: will change the way we watch TV, internet, movies, everything
Eos Amaterasu: you'll have a seat at the table
Eliza Madrigal: attending lunches and seminars with Bleu... walking with Eos.. mowing the yard with Aggers...
Bleu Oleander: :)
Eliza Madrigal: finding bluebirds with FC :)
Eos Amaterasu: multiple Elizas in multiple homes
Eliza Madrigal smiles and ::boggles::::
Eos Amaterasu: a new kind of service industry
Eos Amaterasu: blend that with "Her"

Bleu Oleander: Craig Venter spoke about sending digital biology over the internet
Bleu Oleander: so amazing!
Eliza Madrigal: ohhh he's fascinating

Bleu Oleander: Esther Dyson has an amazing project
Bleu Oleander: announcing it this week
Bleu Oleander: taking 5 communities
Bleu Oleander: and implimenting healthy living ideas
Bleu Oleander: using the rest of the US as the "control"
Bleu Oleander: see what works best
Eliza Madrigal: there is a big difference socioeconomically... in some of the poorest neighborhoods there aren't even real grocery stores... so the packaged food at my level I try to get away from, is out of reach even... leaving covenience stores :(
--BELL--
Bleu Oleander: http://hiccup.co/

FcSeeker Resident: ...there was so amazing good foods in USA, and needed only to worm up in the microwave....tasted so good; had made from sooo good and healthy supplies....but....
FcSeeker Resident: was a bit too much to this little panda's tummy....
Agatha Macbeth: :)
FcSeeker Resident: to have such foods 'all the time'
Eliza Madrigal nods
Bleu Oleander: her project is very interesting
FcSeeker Resident: but then I found such stuff that helped; oat was real
Bleu Oleander: would love to live in one of the project cities
Eliza Madrigal: "real food"
Agatha Macbeth: A change from bamboo shoots anyway
Eliza Madrigal: project cities = ground gardens?
FcSeeker Resident: yes; as I found oat flours
Eliza Madrigal: group*
FcSeeker Resident: so I could make it to be real ; not with adds
Eliza Madrigal: my younger daughter is moving in June... and will be trying to raise 1/3 of their food through raised gardens and swapping... sounds easy but takes a lot of initial investment and consistent cultivation
Agatha Macbeth: The good life
Bleu Oleander: yes!
FcSeeker Resident: but then I found a treasure; I thought they was the same stuff I've made porrage at home (never felt the place in USA to be home even that is also my home)
FcSeeker Resident: but the flour I found the next, tasted just like the score of the wheat
Eliza Madrigal: comfort food, FC?
FcSeeker Resident: I needed to travel back to my homecountry to learn
FcSeeker Resident: that the flour I used was corn
FcSeeker Resident: so I fell in love with corn
FcSeeker Resident: as I have not liked Kellog's cornflakes, withc was only experience of corn before
FcSeeker Resident: sadly there's not such for sell here....those corn flours
Bleu Oleander: we have corn flour tortillas here
FcSeeker Resident: but I've been happy to see from shows in -TV, how it's turned to be important to ppl in USA also to focus to the healthy foods more and more
FcSeeker Resident: they are also so good; I wish they dont have much adds
Eliza Madrigal: it takes a lot of stubbornness to go against the grain of things - always a competing "good idea"
Bleu Oleander: yes hopefully more will choose "real" food
FcSeeker Resident: I dont mind so much, but so many ppl cannot purtify what they eat
Eliza Madrigal: have a lot of options in the US... more and more, thankfully ... but far away from a situation that is flowing
Eliza Madrigal: lots of areas blocked off
Bleu Oleander: too much over processed food pushed
FcSeeker Resident: hm....
Eos Amaterasu: virtuous value cycles sought
Eliza Madrigal: yes
Eos Amaterasu: land to hand to mouth
FcSeeker Resident: would you like me to try to so called teach you how to 'heal' much adds from your foods and drinks ?
Eliza Madrigal: btw, please try not to fill up dates May 24, 25, 26 - tentative SL retreat days
Agatha Macbeth: Ah
Eliza Madrigal: additives, FC?
Bleu Oleander: May already filling up for me :)
FcSeeker Resident: such witch are added in order for the food to stay 'fresh' longer...
Eos Amaterasu: right after Victoria Day
FcSeeker Resident: so might them be additives....
Agatha Macbeth wonders who Victoria is
FcSeeker Resident: anyway; such that makes the food to be not so 'real'....
Bleu Oleander: are you a food researcher Fc?
Eliza Madrigal: (tentative dates - we'll see)
Bleu Oleander: nutritionist?
Eos Amaterasu: *that* Victoria
Eliza Madrigal: :))
Agatha Macbeth: Oh her
Bleu Oleander: :)
FcSeeker Resident: ah no, but I've learned much from the specialist of foods...
Agatha Macbeth: Sorry FC
Eos Amaterasu: so how to spot or how to remove adds from foods?
FcSeeker Resident: I just purify, and many ppl have learned the same 'method'....
Agatha Macbeth: Pure is good
Eliza Madrigal: a good conversation to keep having... keeping one another awake about it all
Eliza Madrigal: I apologize but have to go to another meeting now... thanks for hosting Bleu
FcSeeker Resident: would you like to try to learn ?
Eos Amaterasu: ciao E!
Eliza Madrigal: will read the log to learn :)) thanks FC
Agatha Macbeth: Bye Liz
Eliza Madrigal: bye for now and wish you lovely Sundays
Bleu Oleander: must get going too
Bleu Oleander: busy day here :)
Bleu Oleander: thanks all for coming
FcSeeker Resident: Cu
Eos Amaterasu: ciao bleu
Eos Amaterasu: thnx
Agatha Macbeth: Happy dog time
Bleu Oleander: byeee
Agatha Macbeth: And there we have it
FcSeeker Resident: wold you Aggie also like to try to learn that ?
Agatha Macbeth: What's that dear?
Eos Amaterasu: how to purify food?
FcSeeker Resident: to purfiy all you eat and drink
Agatha Macbeth: Hmm
Eos Amaterasu: how do you do that?
Agatha Macbeth: I could learn, but whether I could actually *do* it is another matter I think :p
FcSeeker Resident: well; I'll guide you, but at first one warning;
--BELL--
FcSeeker Resident: do no point your hands towards the computer , but down to the floor...meaning now
FcSeeker Resident: as the pc may 'crash', but even if that happens, just close it and start again; nothing shall be lost
FcSeeker Resident: but few ppl have mixed their computer when I've guided them
Eos Amaterasu: sry, Fc, got to go....
FcSeeker Resident: so; you need just to relax and 'let go' and focus to my lines; there's not gonna be many of then
Eos Amaterasu: will catch log
FcSeeker Resident: hmmm....donno if that works out with only reading the lines from the log; never done it that way
FcSeeker Resident: but at least it dont do any harm eithere
FcSeeker Resident: but you Aggie can try now
FcSeeker Resident: so just relax
FcSeeker Resident: 'drop' your hands to point the floor
FcSeeker Resident: and 'let go'
FcSeeker Resident: you may feel like you'de get 'gloves' to your hands
FcSeeker Resident: you may feel that there comes tickling energy out from your fingers
FcSeeker Resident: you may your hands 'just' to get warm....
FcSeeker Resident: so just let such to happen
FcSeeker Resident: the 'responding' may also happen when you are in privacy, in case you now be even a bit tennsed for this
FcSeeker Resident: but I know you can 'get it' , cuz my hands started almost to burn
FcSeeker Resident: ...the base truth is always easy; yet nothing is simply to make to come true
FcSeeker Resident: but that is the way I've taught ppl from distance
FcSeeker Resident: would you mind to tell me how you feel now; what you experienced ?
Agatha Macbeth: Do feel a bit of a tingle, but maybe that's blood flow ;-)
FcSeeker Resident: ah well; yes and no....
FcSeeker Resident: I once measured with the nurce; I gave healing onto her chest for 3 min
FcSeeker Resident: and my blood pressure rose 7 marks
Agatha Macbeth: Erk
FcSeeker Resident: but yes dear; that tikling is the sign how you 'awakened' your body to heal
FcSeeker Resident: throught your hands
Agatha Macbeth smiles
FcSeeker Resident: so; when you 'bless' your food and drink by giving that 'tickeling' phenomena to take place to your food, it get's to it's natural balance
FcSeeker Resident: and is healthy to eat
Agatha Macbeth: I see
FcSeeker Resident: thank you that you wanted
Agatha Macbeth: Like Jesus blessing bread?
FcSeeker Resident: ppl have given so many names to the natural phenomenas, which makes so many not to even think that one could do oneself too
FcSeeker Resident: yes
FcSeeker Resident: exactly
Agatha Macbeth nods
FcSeeker Resident: and even he couldn't heal all
FcSeeker Resident: that's cuz of the free will
FcSeeker Resident: everybody don't want to receive ....
Agatha Macbeth: True
--BELL--
FcSeeker Resident: hm...if you like, you sure can delete this also out of the log....as I have not heared ppl to learn that just by reading the guidence....but it's possible also to them who knows me....if they think me when they read....donno for sure
Agatha Macbeth: Well it's Bleu's log, you would have to ask her :)
FcSeeker Resident: I shall if you'de like to wipe out what we experienced 'alone'
Agatha Macbeth: If you wish, I don't mind :)
FcSeeker Resident: ah; neither do I; so we let it to stay
FcSeeker Resident: it may help somebody
Agatha Macbeth: Okay
Agatha Macbeth smiles
Agatha Macbeth: I hope so
FcSeeker Resident: and is no secret, but sacret yes
Agatha Macbeth: Indeed
FcSeeker Resident: thank you dear; you made my day *
Agatha Macbeth: I'm so glad
FcSeeker Resident: have nice time ***
Agatha Macbeth: You too dear panda
Agatha Macbeth: <3
Agatha Macbeth: Take care</grin>