2014.04.20 07:00 - Translating Kitties

The Guardian for this meeting was Bleu Oleander. The comments are by Bleu Oleander.

Bleu Oleander: 's current display-name is "Bleu".
--BELL--
Bleu Oleander waves to Aggers
Eliza Madrigal: 's current display-name is "Eliza".
Bleu Oleander: hi Eliza :)
Eliza Madrigal: Good Morning :))
Bleu Oleander: quite the look today!
Eliza Madrigal giggles
Bleu Oleander: want say, "nice kitty"
Eliza Madrigal: went on a field trip with Virtual Ability... free avies :) liked this one...specially after adding the kimono
Bleu Oleander: nice combo indeed
Bleu Oleander: hey Aggers
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Agatha :)
Agatha Macbeth: Hello Lizji and Bleuji ♥
Bleu Oleander: ♥ *•.¸♥¸.•* ♥
Agatha Macbeth: Oh - meow
Eliza Madrigal: >meowww<
Agatha Macbeth: I've heard of the easter bunny, presumably this is the easter pussy?
Bleu Oleander: a kitty with mixed sense of self :)
Eliza Madrigal: I feel like an avie with a cat mask on
Eliza Madrigal: as though Eliza is underneath, in a costume
Agatha Macbeth: Ifthe mask fits...:p
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Agatha Macbeth: Is this symbolic of something?
Eliza Madrigal shakes head... just playing
Agatha Macbeth: Ah, right
Bleu Oleander: fits play as being
Eliza Madrigal: playception
Agatha Macbeth: Thought it might be some Buddhist festival which coincides with Easter :p
Eliza Madrigal: hahaha
Bleu Oleander: lol
Bleu Oleander: a kitty with issues lol
Agatha Macbeth: Looks like the kind of thing Wol wouls wear
Eliza Madrigal: saw a cute easter cartoon.... a psychiatrist asking the bunny "but what about the eggs you are hiding from yourself?"
Agatha Macbeth: would*
Agatha Macbeth: Heheheh
Bleu Oleander: lol
Agatha Macbeth: Eggs-ceptional
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Bleu Oleander: craving a chocolate one
Agatha Macbeth: Actually it wouldn't bother me if they abolished Easter altogether...took me ages to find a shop open this morning
Eliza Madrigal: I ran out this morning to make baskets for the kids... son said something yesterday about chocolate on Easter and I was struck with "oh no"
Bleu Oleander: ha!
Agatha Macbeth: Oh no?
Bleu Oleander: Easter = good excuse for chocolate bunnies
Eliza Madrigal: hopefully they'll share
Agatha Macbeth: Hope Wester's hunt goes well
Eliza Madrigal: :) I imagined saying this morning instead, "well this is the year we are stepping off the consumer treadmill" and what kind of memory that would make for him
Eliza Madrigal giggles
Bleu Oleander: hehe
Agatha Macbeth: The consumer treadmill is always with us alas
Eliza Madrigal: yeah... and the thing is, I remember that feeling, as a child, was always special to wake to goodies
Bleu Oleander: indeed
Eliza Madrigal: so nice excuse
Eliza Madrigal: "take it lightly"
Agatha Macbeth: I sometimes feel that the only reason they carry on with these things is to make money out of them :p
Bleu Oleander: Williams-Sonoma had lots of nostalgic candies this year
Agatha Macbeth wonders who Williams-Sonoma is
Eliza Madrigal: ooohh missed that...love WS around Christmastime
Bleu Oleander: interesting book "Candy"
Eliza Madrigal: food porn shop Aggers :)
Agatha Macbeth: Aha!
Bleu Oleander: a social history of America through Candy
Eliza Madrigal: what candy makes you feel nostalgic? for me it is ribbon candy and salt water taffy
Agatha Macbeth: Like the guy in Charlie & the chocolate factory?
Bleu Oleander: necco's
Agatha Macbeth: (can't remember his name)
Agatha Macbeth: Willy Wonka?
--BELL--
Agatha Macbeth: Hello E
Eos Amaterasu: hi!
Bleu Oleander: hi Eos
Eliza Madrigal: had to look up Neccos :)
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Eos :)
Bleu Oleander: we're talking about nostalgic candy ... Neccos go back to 1847
Eos Amaterasu: hi blue eliza aga
Eos Amaterasu: was wondering if you are full of chocolate
Agatha Macbeth: Haven't touched mine yet :p
Eliza Madrigal hums "there is no life I know...to compare with pure imagination...." (yes Aggers, Willy Wonka :)
Agatha Macbeth: Must be age
Eliza Madrigal: I neglected to make myself a basket
Agatha Macbeth loves Roald Dahl
Bleu Oleander: dispense with the basket ... go right for the chocolate lol
Agatha Macbeth grins
Eliza Madrigal: I loved that on Easter morning I got to wear gloves and hat to church... miss those rituals actually
Agatha Macbeth: Aww - lovely :)
Bleu Oleander: yes new Easter outfits
Eos Amaterasu: a little veil falling over the eyes also?
Eliza Madrigal: little purse, shiny shoes
Eliza Madrigal: haha...never that far :)
Agatha Macbeth wishes Liz would stop being so cute
Eliza Madrigal laughs
Bleu Oleander: hats were fun
Bleu Oleander: big floppy brimmed ones
Eliza Madrigal: so few reasons to wear fancy hats in the US
Agatha Macbeth: Elections maybe? :p
Eliza Madrigal: lol
Bleu Oleander: :)
Eos Amaterasu: Arcade Fire concerts
Eliza Madrigal: is that a thing?
Agatha Macbeth: 0.0
Eos Amaterasu: they ask audience to come in costume
Eliza Madrigal: ohhh, neat
Agatha Macbeth: Ah like mardi gras?
Agatha Macbeth wonders if she crashed
Agatha Macbeth: Hello?
Eliza Madrigal: :) nope
Agatha Macbeth: Ah, good
Bleu Oleander: hehe
Eliza Madrigal: ::::hello hello hello::::
Agatha Macbeth: Glad you're still here
Eliza Madrigal pinches Aggers
Agatha Macbeth: Yeow
Eliza Madrigal: at least I know you're not dreaming
Agatha Macbeth: Not right now, no
Agatha Macbeth: But if I was I'd write it down
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Bleu Oleander: ha!
Agatha Macbeth: Actually if my dreams were more like this I might remember them#
Eliza Madrigal: maybe they're so similar they blend in
Bleu Oleander: they aren't?
Eos Amaterasu: do you do pauses in your dream?
Eos Amaterasu wonders why he's whispering
Bleu Oleander: lol
Agatha Macbeth: Hmm...would need to work that in somewhere
Eliza Madrigal: :) depends on which box you type in sometimes, Eos
Eos Amaterasu: I'll try to type out of the box
Eliza Madrigal meditates in dreams sometimes
Agatha Macbeth: You're just a modest guy ;)
Bleu Oleander: what's that like?
Eliza Madrigal: like dropping deeper ...out of the scene sort of
Agatha Macbeth smiles
Bleu Oleander: like waking up?
Eliza Madrigal: not exactly... dreaming sometimes changes if I stay in long enough.. sort of empties out and just leaves a kind of alive contentment
Eliza Madrigal: so if I'm awake enough to meditate in a dream it is sort of choosing to do that
Eliza Madrigal: awake maybe not right word//aware?
Agatha Macbeth turns on her Liz translator
Eliza Madrigal: :P
Eliza Madrigal: maybe in the future there will be a translator chip we can each exchange with those in our lives
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Agatha Macbeth: Mmm
Agatha Macbeth: Like Star Trek
Agatha Macbeth: 'Totally logical captain'
Eliza Madrigal: Pila meditates in sleep... he's the one who first suggested it to me once.. has talked about taking meditation posture and flying around, hha
Agatha Macbeth: Oh my
--BELL--
Eos Amaterasu: the lake of awareness that's the lady of the lake
Eliza Madrigal: Bleu are you still logging dreams for the study?
Bleu Oleander: no
Agatha Macbeth: Study?
Bleu Oleander: study on hold for a while
Eliza Madrigal: ah
Bleu Oleander: seems there's a limit to people's involvement in such things
Agatha Macbeth sighs
Bleu Oleander: some are really interested, some not so much
Agatha Macbeth: Usually the way
Eliza Madrigal nods... makes sense
Bleu Oleander: yup
Agatha Macbeth: What study is this?
Bleu Oleander: we visited with a scientist who studies dreams
Agatha Macbeth: Oh
Agatha Macbeth: Wow
Eliza Madrigal: if someone has had an insight they have personal incentive to follow up but if not, other things probably call to them
Bleu Oleander: and he suggested the study
Agatha Macbeth: Is this like the kind of thing Fox does?
Bleu Oleander: related
Eliza Madrigal: Fox studies a bunch of things related to dreams... like, what do dreams say about embodiment
Agatha Macbeth nods
Bleu Oleander: we are embodied :)
Agatha Macbeth: Hope to see her again soon, seems like ages
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Agatha Macbeth: We are indeed
Bleu Oleander: btw, did you see "the Goldfinch" won the Pulizer prize?
Eliza Madrigal: wow no
Agatha Macbeth: Book?
Bleu Oleander: yes for fiction
Bleu Oleander: yes
Agatha Macbeth: Ah
Bleu Oleander: Donna Tartt
Agatha Macbeth: Good name
Bleu Oleander: :)
Eliza Madrigal: really enjoyed that... possibly enjoyed it more after finishing
Agatha Macbeth: That happens sometimes
Bleu Oleander: I thought it was great
Bleu Oleander: and really enjoyed seeing the painting in NYC
Eliza Madrigal: that would have been wonderful
Bleu Oleander: pulled it all together
Agatha Macbeth: Every picture tells a story
Bleu Oleander: fiction morphed into reality
Eos Amaterasu: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Fabritius-vink.jpg ?
Bleu Oleander: really wonderful to see the painting ... felt I already knew it
Eliza Madrigal: unassuming at first glance
Agatha Macbeth: Cute
Bleu Oleander: definitely a "psst"
Bleu Oleander: stood out in a room full of 17th C Dutch masters
Eliza Madrigal: must have felt like a flip moment... inside coming outside and staring at you
Bleu Oleander: indeed!
Agatha Macbeth: 0.0
Eliza Madrigal: heheh.. :::tunes Aggers' translator:::
Bleu Oleander: now just a frige magnet memory
Bleu Oleander: lol
Eliza Madrigal: haha!
Agatha Macbeth throws Liz a fish
Eliza Madrigal: totally missed the chain on the goldfinch at first
Eliza Madrigal: so lightly there
Bleu Oleander: big detail!
Eliza Madrigal: yes
Eliza Madrigal: <---can be oblivious
Bleu Oleander: amazing they did that back then
Agatha Macbeth: I'It is not enough to look, one must also see'
Eliza Madrigal: wise Aggers :)
Bleu Oleander: how true
Eliza Madrigal: and what of the Vermeer film... is that out yet?
Bleu Oleander: ah need to check
Agatha Macbeth: Vermeer made a film?
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Bleu Oleander: lol
Eliza Madrigal: well someone is convinced he used tech that no one credits
Eliza Madrigal: to capture the light
Xirana Oximoxi: 's current display-name is "Xirana".
Agatha Macbeth: They'll be sure to show it at Cannes :p
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Xiri!
Agatha Macbeth: Xirababe :)
Eos Amaterasu: hi xiri
Eliza Madrigal: you must have heard us begin to discuss art :)
Xirana Oximoxi: hello everyone! :)
Eos Amaterasu: life's game: to capture the light
Eliza Madrigal: mmm
Bleu Oleander: hi Xiri :)
Agatha Macbeth nods
Bleu Oleander: Tim's Vermeer
Agatha Macbeth: The cracks are where the light comes in
Xirana Oximoxi: hehe well...it must be intuition then :)
Bleu Oleander: Cohen
Agatha Macbeth: Indeed
Eliza Madrigal smiles
--BELL--
Agatha Macbeth: Didn't know that one til Corvi pointed it out
Eos Amaterasu: evermore
Agatha Macbeth: Ha
Eliza Madrigal: pointing out the void
Agatha Macbeth: Different blackbird
Agatha Macbeth: Oh wait...blackbirds are jays aren't they?
Eliza Madrigal: are they?
Agatha Macbeth is not an ornithologist
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Eos Amaterasu: bird chirps sometimes feel like light in darkness
Agatha Macbeth: Ah so
Bleu Oleander: hums Blackbird
Xirana Oximoxi: :)
Agatha Macbeth: Feed the birds
Eos Amaterasu: only waiting for this moment
Bleu Oleander: Take these broken wings and learn to fly ... All your life ... You were only waiting for this moment to arise
Agatha Macbeth: Yay
Eliza Madrigal: *beautiful*
Eliza Madrigal: culmination
Eos Amaterasu: bird chirps, Vermeer glints
Bleu Oleander: the only song my brother knew on his guitar :)
Agatha Macbeth: Aww
Eliza Madrigal smiles
Eliza Madrigal: love the little >pling< in it
Agatha Macbeth: It's the pling that makes it
Agatha Macbeth: How is Xira?
Bleu Oleander: how's your book coming?
Xirana Oximoxi: Xira is quite fine and busy :)
Agatha Macbeth: Yay
Eliza Madrigal: nice to hear
Agatha Macbeth: Good to hear
Agatha Macbeth: Snap(ish)
Eliza Madrigal: ^.^ snapfish
Agatha Macbeth: That too
Xirana Oximoxi: I am making a course to learn how to illustrate well ...so books are still work in progress:)
Eos Amaterasu: lustrate
Bleu Oleander: a course?
Agatha Macbeth: We are never too old to learn
Bleu Oleander: online?
Xirana Oximoxi: yes...online
Bleu Oleander: nice!
Xirana Oximoxi: I wanted to do one in Barcelona but they reached not the number of people and did not... and I have found this online much better and cheap :)
Eliza Madrigal: perfect
Agatha Macbeth: Great
Eliza Madrigal: >cheep cheep<
Bleu Oleander: online classes are great!
Eliza Madrigal giggles
Bleu Oleander: funny coming from a kitty
Eliza Madrigal: hehehhee
Agatha Macbeth: ^.^
Bleu Oleander: lol
Agatha Macbeth: Nya
Eliza Madrigal: * you are dreaming *
Bleu Oleander: the cat that ate the canary
Eliza Madrigal looks around innocently
Agatha Macbeth: Looks like the canary took over
Bleu Oleander: lol
Bleu Oleander: well have to get going ... brunch is calling me :)
Agatha Macbeth: Aww
Bleu Oleander: thank you all for coming
Eliza Madrigal: happy Easter brunching Bleu
Eos Amaterasu: enjoy!
Agatha Macbeth: Chomp well
Eliza Madrigal: btw, buddhist, but a free dream yoga video for those interested: http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/41879690
Bleu Oleander: have a lovely day
Xirana Oximoxi: bye bye Bleu! happy Easter!

Eliza Madrigal: you too
Bleu Oleander: take care :)
Agatha Macbeth: TC
Eliza Madrigal: others' plans today?
Agatha Macbeth: You?
Eliza Madrigal: park walk...not much else
Agatha Macbeth: Just another quiet Sunday I guess
Agatha Macbeth: Maybe watch Jesus of Nazareth later
Eliza Madrigal wonders if she's seen that...
Agatha Macbeth: Surely?
Agatha Macbeth: Rober Powell
Agatha Macbeth: +t
Eliza Madrigal: ah, yes... not for a long time
Agatha Macbeth: Kind of a teadition with me
Eliza Madrigal: :) nice
Agatha Macbeth: And a tradition too
Agatha Macbeth: Actually teadition is probably better for the tome I'll be doing it!
Agatha Macbeth: Time*
Agatha Macbeth: Gad
Eliza Madrigal: hah
Eliza Madrigal: personal traditions go beyond or deeper into orthodoxy I guess
Agatha Macbeth is turning into bruce
Agatha Macbeth: Mmhm
Eliza Madrigal: chosen ones
Agatha Macbeth: Guess so
--BELL--
Eliza Madrigal: Eos, Xiri.. plans?
Xirana Oximoxi: I am half day drawing :)
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Agatha Macbeth: Only half? :p
Eos Amaterasu: Quiet Easter.... enjoy
Agatha Macbeth: Yeh
Eliza Madrigal: consensus = quiet today :)
Agatha Macbeth: Works for moi
Xirana Oximoxi: yes...the rest half drawing too :)
Eliza Madrigal smiles
Agatha Macbeth: :D
Agatha Macbeth: Half a drawing is better than none
Xirana Oximoxi: richtig :)
Agatha Macbeth: Echt
Eos Amaterasu: Happy Easter & Spring, Ags, Eliza,Xiri
Eliza Madrigal: Happy Easter and Spring Eos :)
Agatha Macbeth: Bye E, TC
Agatha Macbeth: Boing
Xirana Oximoxi: bye Eos!
Agatha Macbeth: Did you find out any more interesting places in SL Liz?
Eliza Madrigal: know of a few nice communities... the Creations Park one is lovely for instance
Agatha Macbeth: Oh
Agatha Macbeth: What happens there?
Eliza Madrigal: the sim is really beautiful and they have various discussions and dances - dances might be underwater et
Eliza Madrigal: *etc
Agatha Macbeth: Ah
Agatha Macbeth: Any meetings?
Xirana Oximoxi: it's a long time I don't explore new places in sl...must do..it's always fun and amazing what people build
Eliza Madrigal: I am normally not one to be drawn to law of attraction type things but they've started one and I like the way that one is approached... but most meetings are in the evenings... since they are based in Cali
Agatha Macbeth: Yes Xira, totally
Eliza Madrigal: Xiri you might like to visit a skybox on Creations...
Agatha Macbeth: Evenings SLT?
Eliza Madrigal: DB Bailey is a designer/artists
Eliza Madrigal: yes SLT
Eliza Madrigal: even a little late for me truthfully
Eliza Madrigal: I'll give LMs
Agatha Macbeth: Hm, maybe I can take a look on aweekend
Agatha Macbeth: TY
Eliza Madrigal: lots of nice spots to relax in, if you like to do that
Xirana Oximoxi: thank you Eliza! I will visit
Eliza Madrigal: I do sometimes
Eliza Madrigal: I like to work on writing sometimes if I can find a peaceful spot... and there are several there
Agatha Macbeth: Ah, peaceful spots eh
Agatha Macbeth: Always good
Eliza Madrigal: dreamy ones
Eliza Madrigal: touches of wonder, infused with play
Xirana Oximoxi: you like to sit in sl and write?
Eliza Madrigal: yes
Xirana Oximoxi: wonderful!! I must try :))
Agatha Macbeth: :)
Eliza Madrigal: it can feel as though on vacation..
Eliza Madrigal: place to forget other things and be in a totally baggageless place
Xirana Oximoxi: yes....it can :))
Agatha Macbeth: Mm, I'll bet
Eliza Madrigal: bring only the baggage you want to deal with then, hah
Agatha Macbeth prefers to leave it behind
Eliza Madrigal: well the baggage is also the material of our lives?
Agatha Macbeth: Sadly
Eliza Madrigal: if leaving it all behind, would have to leave the experience
Agatha Macbeth: Maybe what requires to be jettisoned
Eliza Madrigal: mmm
Eliza Madrigal: do you know who Zizek is?
Agatha Macbeth: 'Drop what you have to see what you are'
Agatha Macbeth: Er, no
Eliza Madrigal: :))
Xirana Oximoxi: I will go now....have a wonderful and inspiring time guapinas :)
Agatha Macbeth: Adios Xira
Eliza Madrigal: okay Xiri, you too...so nice to see you
Agatha Macbeth: Hasta porno :p
Xirana Oximoxi: hehe hasta porno :))
Eliza Madrigal: I brought Zizek up because he uses this phrase that is probably from elsewhere in philosophy: "margin of freedom"
Agatha Macbeth: Philosopher?
Eliza Madrigal: yes
Agatha Macbeth: Must give Rhi a call :p
Eliza Madrigal: really entertaining philosopher
Agatha Macbeth: Not many of those around :p
--BELL--
Eliza Madrigal: so his outline is similar to chi and karma teachings... that there is the energy patterning we're born with (dna, etc), then there are the outer circumstances (different kind of karma), but most of what we work with is the margin of freedom where we choose response
Agatha Macbeth: Aha
Agatha Macbeth: Hm
Agatha Macbeth: Different shells maybe
Eliza Madrigal: I like to find those overlaps
Agatha Macbeth: Yes
Agatha Macbeth: And see how they interreact
Eliza Madrigal: yes... like stim's phrase I always think about...that the way we are limited is the way we are free...
Agatha Macbeth: Hmm
Eliza Madrigal: trying to be grateful for all that has happened...even when I can see so clearly that I would have wished it another way, or to be wiser sooner
Agatha Macbeth: Maybe freedom is in the eye of the beholder?
Eliza Madrigal: indeed - our response!
Agatha Macbeth grins
Agatha Macbeth: And how we cope with it
Eliza Madrigal: precisely... so if I try to write without the baggage, there isn't much to connect
Agatha Macbeth: Good lord
Eliza Madrigal: "there is a crack in everything..."
Agatha Macbeth: A bit like being a noob then?
Eliza Madrigal: noob?
Agatha Macbeth: No baggage - coming in fresh
Eliza Madrigal: baggage there but fresh, lol
Agatha Macbeth: Hm, not sure I could manage that
Agatha Macbeth: Would have to be t'other or which
Agatha Macbeth: :p
Eliza Madrigal: :) well this is my working theory
Eliza Madrigal: I used to opt for "moving on"
Agatha Macbeth: If it works for dear Liz, go for it
Agatha Macbeth: you*
Agatha Macbeth: We are all different
Eliza Madrigal: and different times call for different measures ^.^
Agatha Macbeth: Maybe you get more insights that way
Eliza Madrigal: it feels authentic I guess
Eliza Madrigal: not hiding things
Agatha Macbeth: And are we always the same person all the time?#
Eliza Madrigal: hard to pull off.. same person all the time...
Agatha Macbeth ponders the undiscovered Eliza
Eliza Madrigal: she's beneath the cat head
Eliza Madrigal laughs
Eliza Madrigal: getting hot in here
Agatha Macbeth: Yes, I derendered it to se if you were underneath
Agatha Macbeth: Now you are a headless avatar :P
Eliza Madrigal laughs...really? Am I?
Eliza Madrigal: ah... yes then I am there!
Agatha Macbeth: 'On having no head'
Eliza Madrigal: hahah
Agatha Macbeth: Oh dear
Eliza Madrigal: wonder how Lia is... I remember when she was reading that
Agatha Macbeth: Oh right...she's in US now?
Eliza Madrigal: I believe so, yes
Agatha Macbeth: Hope all is well with her
Eliza Madrigal: but I haven't check in with her in a long time
Agatha Macbeth: Big help when you know the language
Agatha Macbeth: Not so much of a stranger
Eliza Madrigal: I suppose...
Eliza Madrigal: heard a story about a french woman and an american man who met at a Star Trek convention and fell in love while speaking only klingon
Agatha Macbeth: 0.0
Agatha Macbeth: Sounds like the beginning of a wonderful relationship
Eliza Madrigal: sometimes words get in the way I think... people falsely believing they are speaking the same language
Agatha Macbeth: 'It's only words'
Agatha Macbeth: Enjoy the silence
Eliza Madrigal: :) intimacy
Agatha Macbeth: Ah yes
Agatha Macbeth: Wollie and me were talking about something similar yesterday
Eliza Madrigal: Oh?
Agatha Macbeth: Intimate spaces
Eliza Madrigal: are those like thin places?
Agatha Macbeth: Probably hasn't had time to post the log yety
Eliza Madrigal: Bruce's session?
Agatha Macbeth: Yesterday's 1AM
Eliza Madrigal: ah...will peek... :)
Agatha Macbeth: Korel was there too
Eliza Madrigal: what makes a space intimate for you?
Agatha Macbeth: We were talking about 'intimate spaces' like phone calls etc
Agatha Macbeth: For me?
Eliza Madrigal: yes
Agatha Macbeth: Being with someone...special...in a certain way
Agatha Macbeth: Who I relate to
Eliza Madrigal: so trust there
Agatha Macbeth: Oh absolutely
--BELL--
Agatha Macbeth: Trust is a big thing with me
Eliza Madrigal: are you slow to trust?
Agatha Macbeth: So many fakers about :p
Agatha Macbeth: Yes I am
Agatha Macbeth: Always
Agatha Macbeth: Takes a long time
Eliza Madrigal: but not an endless time I hope
Agatha Macbeth: Oh no
Agatha Macbeth: Definitely not
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Agatha Macbeth: There are many right here in PaB I trust implicitly
Agatha Macbeth: Which is maybe why I come here :p
Eliza Madrigal: that's a good reason! :))
Agatha Macbeth: Totally
Eliza Madrigal: so the fountain can be an intimate space... I relate to that
Agatha Macbeth: It certainly is
Eliza Madrigal: it is almost a bar for me
Agatha Macbeth: Or can be
Agatha Macbeth: Yes
Agatha Macbeth: Like cheers
Eliza Madrigal: :) yes that...but I was thinking a kind of test
Agatha Macbeth: Cheers* rather
Agatha Macbeth: Test?
Eliza Madrigal: like... if someone 'gets' PaB I feel they get me pretty well too
Agatha Macbeth: Oh
Agatha Macbeth: Right
Eliza Madrigal: so there is a kind of trust in that
Agatha Macbeth: Like Klingons maybe? :p
Eliza Madrigal: tried by fire, hehe
Agatha Macbeth: Fire and water ;-)
Eliza Madrigal grins
Agatha Macbeth: Well we have both been coming here a while, so something works
Eliza Madrigal nods...
Eliza Madrigal: was talking with stevenaia about similar also..in IM last night
Agatha Macbeth: :)
Eliza Madrigal: connecting something he said with something Bleu said.. about this place bringing up things to follow
Agatha Macbeth: Hmm
Agatha Macbeth: Knock on effect?
Eliza Madrigal: :) maybe
Agatha Macbeth: Like dominoes
Eliza Madrigal: that works :)
Agatha Macbeth: 'Watch them all fall down'
Agatha Macbeth: My ex dragged me along to a Pet Shop Boys concert once :p
Eliza Madrigal: and?
Agatha Macbeth: I enjoyed it! bwah
Eliza Madrigal: hahah
Agatha Macbeth: Seriusly, it was really good
Eliza Madrigal: you hadn't liked them before?
Agatha Macbeth: No i thought they were crap :D
Eliza Madrigal: I'm only a little familiar... due to a few popular songs in the 80s
Agatha Macbeth: But the live show was great
Agatha Macbeth nods
Eliza Madrigal: I like when that happens... happened for me with Hall n Oats
Agatha Macbeth: Well this was about 20 years ago
Agatha Macbeth: Ah, right
Agatha Macbeth: Darren and John
Eliza Madrigal: yeah... they were part of a concert with Chicago and Rod Stuart... guess late 80s too...
Eliza Madrigal: *stewart
Agatha Macbeth: Wow
Agatha Macbeth: You weren't very old then?
Eliza Madrigal: it was great.. a 4th of July concert in a large stadium
Eliza Madrigal: quite young :)
Agatha Macbeth: Great
Eliza Madrigal: but I've always liked music people said was too old for me.. so ... was there for Chicago
Agatha Macbeth nods
Agatha Macbeth: They've been going a long time
Eliza Madrigal: anyway it changed my mind... like you with Pet Shop Boys...
Agatha Macbeth: Right
Eliza Madrigal: "never say never"
Agatha Macbeth: Must be the live experience
Eliza Madrigal: maybe seeing where they are coming from?
Agatha Macbeth: A bit like meeting someone from SL in RL maybe?
Eliza Madrigal: maybe... have seen it happen both ways
Agatha Macbeth nods
Agatha Macbeth: I think I know what a lot of people in PaB look like in RL anyway
Eliza Madrigal: yes, but no one knows what you look like :)) or maybe one...
Eliza Madrigal: but that's okay :)
Agatha Macbeth: Maybe I'll start a RL me on FB
Agatha Macbeth: And put a few pics in
Eliza Madrigal: sometimes I wish I'd never crossed the line but I wouldn't exchange the experiences with PaBers for anything
Agatha Macbeth: Oh?
Eliza Madrigal: when and if you like to... wouldn't want to push :)
Eliza Madrigal: yes... in some ways Eliza stopped being as experimental
Agatha Macbeth: In what way?
--BELL--
Agatha Macbeth: (Wonder if Bleu will leave all this in :p)
Eliza Madrigal: it is okay with me if she does... you?
Agatha Macbeth: Sure
Agatha Macbeth: NW
Eliza Madrigal: re, your question.. I guess I don't know. It is left unexplored what might have been different if I didn't have a RL 'place' and 'name'... coordinates from which to speak from
Agatha Macbeth: Ah
Eliza Madrigal: unexplored whether 'baggage good and bad' might be suspended on a continual basis
Agatha Macbeth: You feel restricted by that?
Eliza Madrigal: not exactly... just a kind of question
Agatha Macbeth: Hmm
Eliza Madrigal: intellectual question mostly, which I gladly trade for the intimate connections fostered here
Agatha Macbeth ponders 'intellectual'
Agatha Macbeth: :p
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Agatha Macbeth: I tend to feel much better than I think
Eliza Madrigal: please say more?
Agatha Macbeth: Er
Eliza Madrigal: :))
Eliza Madrigal snorts
Eliza Madrigal: sorry
Agatha Macbeth: I guess I tend to trust intuition more than logic
Eliza Madrigal: then what is logic for?
Agatha Macbeth: Good question
Agatha Macbeth: People who can think? :p
Eliza Madrigal smiles
Eliza Madrigal: I trust intuition more too I think, but I play with logic
Agatha Macbeth: Or does logic play with you? ;-)
Eliza Madrigal: for sure!
Agatha Macbeth: Hehe
Agatha Macbeth: As long as we're learning I think that's the main part
Eliza Madrigal: maybe... hard to know until the learning is tested
Agatha Macbeth nods
Eliza Madrigal: I have been thinking courage... heard someone quote Aristotle a few days ago... that Courage is the greatest virtue
Eliza Madrigal: because without it, all the others are inactive
Agatha Macbeth: Onassis? @p
Eliza Madrigal: :P :P :P
Agatha Macbeth: Sorry
Agatha Macbeth: Hm
Agatha Macbeth: Makes me think of the Lion in Wizard of Oz
Eliza Madrigal: wonderful character
Agatha Macbeth: Right
Eliza Madrigal: but others projected leadership onto him and he played out that role for along time, without tapping own courage?
Eliza Madrigal: a long*
Agatha Macbeth: Hm, could be
Agatha Macbeth: I always related more with the Scarecrow :p
Eliza Madrigal: heheh
Agatha Macbeth: 'If I only had a brain'
Eliza Madrigal: parts of that film terrified me so... the trees
Eliza Madrigal: the monkeys
Agatha Macbeth: Aww
Eliza Madrigal: ::shivers:: :)
Agatha Macbeth: I love it
Eliza Madrigal: me too..wouldn't have been the same without the terrifying parts
Agatha Macbeth: Have you seen Elizabeth Spieler's exhibition in SL?
Eliza Madrigal: I've heard her talk a few times
Eliza Madrigal: but haven't gone to the exhibit
Agatha Macbeth: A friend of mine has the LM, will get her to pass it on
Eliza Madrigal: she has interesting angles but I find her hard to relate to in some ways
Agatha Macbeth: Yes, not everyone seems to get along with her, but I like her a lot
Eliza Madrigal: she is at Nirvana Island now I think... so I have the LM, thanks
Agatha Macbeth: Ahh okay
Agatha Macbeth: Maybe moved since I was there
Eliza Madrigal: for sure she is interesting
Agatha Macbeth: It used to be at a place called Dreamworld
Eliza Madrigal: ooo never heard of that!
Agatha Macbeth: That's the trouble with SL...everything moves!
Eliza Madrigal: well, that's one trouble ^.^
Agatha Macbeth: Yeh
Eliza Madrigal: speaking of dreamworlds... think I will wake my son now! 12 noon!
Agatha Macbeth: OMG
Agatha Macbeth: Throw a bucket of water over him
Eliza Madrigal: he's growing so fast... quite a bit taller than me but not gaining weight
--BELL--
Agatha Macbeth: Good!
Eliza Madrigal: feels strange... my 'baby' boy
Agatha Macbeth: Plenty of time for that
Agatha Macbeth: Aww
Agatha Macbeth: I know
Eliza Madrigal: am forcing tennis lessons over summer
Agatha Macbeth: Forced tennis? :p
Agatha Macbeth: Interesting concept
Eliza Madrigal: yeah... hah, going against my noncoercive grain
Agatha Macbeth: I like badminton better
Agatha Macbeth: You can see the shuutlecock a lot easier than a ball
Eliza Madrigal: not so much badminton around here
Eliza Madrigal: nor cricket
Agatha Macbeth: Volleyball too, used to love that
Eliza Madrigal: ooo me too
Agatha Macbeth: Spiking hehe
Eliza Madrigal: gosh it has been 15 years or more...
Agatha Macbeth: Great when played on a beach
Eliza Madrigal: eek
Eliza Madrigal: YES... games all over the place here..beaches, parks
Agatha Macbeth: Well you have the climate
Eliza Madrigal: :) okay here I go...
Eliza Madrigal: thanks for lingering on this holiday
Agatha Macbeth: Bye for now
Agatha Macbeth: NW
Agatha Macbeth: Enjoyed it
Eliza Madrigal: bfn, and have a lovely evening
Eliza Madrigal: <3
Agatha Macbeth: U2
Agatha Macbeth: ♥
Agatha Macbeth: Sorry to make the log so long Bleu :p
Eliza Madrigal: yes Bleu :)) hugs

hugs and :P