2009.06.07 19:00 - Log Editing

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    The Guardian for this meeting was stevenaia Michinaga. The comments are by stevenaia Michinaga.


    Before 7:00 someone showed up with go carts and things to show but no intensions of staying. 

    stevenaia Michinaga: hello fox
    stevenaia Michinaga: have you been here before?
    FOX XXXX: hi
    FOX XXXX: no i just teleported here
    FOX XXXX: i am finding a place to build like a free land
    stevenaia Michinaga: our meeting starts at 7:00
    FOX XXXX: tx
    stevenaia Michinaga: here is some background info
    FOX XXXX: hey check this out
    FOX XXXX: lol look
    stevenaia Michinaga: nice cart
    stevenaia Michinaga: enjoy
    FOX XXXX: i don't know how to drive something on my arm!?
    stevenaia Michinaga: do you mind if we post your comments on our wiki?
    stevenaia Michinaga: you can right click on it and drop it
    FOX XXXX: i actualy had no intetions of coming here though
    stevenaia Michinaga: ok thanks
    stevenaia Michinaga: enjoy your toys
    FOX XXXX: ty
    FOX XXXX: bye frendly man

    It's now 7:00 and Karoz Blogger arrives with a bit of an issue.

    stevenaia Michinaga: hello Karoz
    Karoz Blogger: Hi.
    Karoz Blogger: Do you record all conversations?
    stevenaia Michinaga: yes, if you don't mind, we also post them on the groups Wiki
    Karoz Blogger: http://playasbeing.wik.is/Chat_Logs/2009/05/2009.05.24_19:00_-_Late_Arrival
    Karoz Blogger: You severly edited comments in my last visit.
    Karoz Blogger: Why?
    stevenaia Michinaga: I usually don;t spend my time editing, they are auto logged and I jsut add comments
    stevenaia Michinaga: hmmm
    Karoz Blogger: No. They were edited.
    Karoz Blogger: Do you remember... when I talked about comedy and spirituality.
    stevenaia Michinaga: yes
    Karoz Blogger: Why wasn't it logged?
    Karoz Blogger: No meanness involved, I just want to know if you edit. Obviously you do to me.
    Karoz Blogger: If you want truth it seems you must have all conversations recorded. Correct?
    stevenaia Michinaga: it appears from the log that you "poofed before much was said, if you ahve another verion place put it on a notecard and give it to me
    Karoz Blogger: No, its not a big deal. But you edited comments to my own from others, and my comments to them as well.
    Karoz Blogger: Probably about 10 mins. worth.
    stevenaia Michinaga: was that your first time here?
    Karoz Blogger: But you are suppose to record all conversations, true?
    Karoz Blogger: Yes.
    stevenaia Michinaga: yes
    Karoz Blogger: My 1st time.
    stevenaia Michinaga: if you did not give us permission to post your conversation to the log, there is the possibility that we would change your name , but not edit your comments
    Karoz Blogger: Most of my comments weren't logged under any name.
    stevenaia Michinaga: as I said, I post, I do not edit, it appeard from the log that you may have left, but may not have been aware of your own departure so your comments were n ot logged here
    Karoz Blogger: No. I was here. You remember. I talked about comedy.
    Karoz Blogger: You just said you remembered.
    stevenaia Michinaga: do you ahve a copy of your comment, could it have been from another time?
    Karoz Blogger: No. I've only been the one time.
    stevenaia Michinaga: comments
    Karoz Blogger: I did not record them myself. But I do not trust this group to record everything. You can understand.
    Karoz Blogger: I hope.
    stevenaia Michinaga: I can check to see if there is a copy, the log says "poof" which usually means you may have left unexpected

    Rowan Masala joins us

    stevenaia Michinaga: hello Rowan
    Rowan Masala: hi Steven, Karoz
    Karoz Blogger: I said thank you after my comments and did not just 'poof". Your recorder is broken.:)
    stevenaia Michinaga: the log is recorded without my intervention and is sent to me, I do not do the transcription
    Karoz Blogger: But you understand I cannnot trust this place now.
    stevenaia Michinaga: I will try to reconcile it wht my "log and see of there are incomplete sections
    Karoz Blogger: My comments were edited. It is obvious.
    Karoz Blogger: Ok. Thanks.
    stevenaia Michinaga: could it have been from another time?
    stevenaia Michinaga: hmmm
    stevenaia Michinaga: Poof (for the record): [19:10] Radar: Leaving chat range: Karoz Blogger
    stevenaia Michinaga: :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: hello Rowan, seems he thought we spend time editing our sessions
    stevenaia Michinaga: rather than just commenting on them
    Rowan Masala: what was that all about?
    Rowan Masala: was it one of your sessions?
    Rowan Masala: you don't edit anything but your typos
    stevenaia Michinaga: he was unhappy as he thought we cut out a substantial portion of his comments from a may log
    stevenaia Michinaga: haha, yes, there is that:)
    stevenaia Michinaga: I'll place the log excerpt in this session for reference
    stevenaia Michinaga: welcome back
    Karoz Blogger: Sorry.
    stevenaia Michinaga: [19:17] Radar: Leaving chat range: Karoz Blogger perhaps he had a moment to reflect?
    stevenaia Michinaga: here is what I extracted from the recordrd log:
    stevenaia Michinaga: aww, I see I was not there as I arrived quite late in the session
    stevenaia Michinaga: but the log was claimed by me and posted w/o edits or comments
    Rowan Masala: and did the log start at the beginning?
    stevenaia Michinaga: but I do remember him, possibly from another time
    stevenaia Michinaga: the log seems to include his entire short visit

    Dakini Rhode: hi Karoz 
    Fortune Crystal: Yes, but reading is also an extension of real life and people can act in real life based on things they read in a book. aka non fiction biography ets 
    Moyra Ares: no Artificial intelligence here 
    Paradise Tennant: which is sorry for the slay ..just way cool 
    Gary Palmira: Real people having fantasies with other real people Moyra Ares: what makes it real in some way 
    Karoz Blogger: Are u meditating? Dakini Rhode: we're chatting, karoz 
    Karoz Blogger: Ty. 
    Paradise Tennant: welcome karoz .. no this is a discussion . sort of informal Dakini Rhode: poofFortune Crystal: This is called "Play at being" I can see if I have a notecard for you if you want Karoz 
    Paradise Tennant: please join us 
    Moyra Ares: hi karoz 
    Dakini Rhode: karoz poofed

    Rowan Masala: maybe what he remembers saying was said in private IM
    stevenaia Michinaga: possibly
    Rowan Masala: does he have his own chat and IM logs?
    stevenaia Michinaga: appearently not, just his memories
    stevenaia Michinaga: so it would not appear on any of my logs since I was here at the end that session

    A new arrival who does not stay very long:

    stevenaia Michinaga: hello Lion
    Lion XXXXX: hello
    Rowan Masala: hi Lion
    Lion XXXXX: hi
    stevenaia Michinaga: have you been here before?
    stevenaia Michinaga: and appears not to have been here now
    stevenaia Michinaga: Lion "Poofs"
    Rowan Masala: he's an alt
    Rowan Masala: empty profile
    stevenaia Michinaga: aww, I see
    Rowan Masala: I must go. Thank you for the meditative time
    stevenaia Michinaga: bye Rowan

    For about 15 minutes I sat alone until Bertrum Quan joined me:

    stevenaia Michinaga: hello Bertrum
    Bertrum Quan: hi Steve
    stevenaia Michinaga: it's been a slow but interesting evening
    stevenaia Michinaga: how are you?
    Bertrum Quan: Tried to stop in earlier but the program froze.
    stevenaia Michinaga: I was about to call it a night as no one was here for 15 minutes, but I do have a few minutes if you ahve any thoughts?
    stevenaia Michinaga: I can;t stay much past 8
    Bertrum Quan: No, just persistence... about getting on-line this evening.
    stevenaia Michinaga: :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: welcome, in that case
    Bertrum Quan: You've already held the fort for this session.
    Bertrum Quan: What happened earlier that I missed?
    stevenaia Michinaga: there were accusationd of log editing by someone, unfortunaltely I was an hour late and jsut posted the log as delivered as it was origianally claimed by someone else until I arrived and claimed it
    stevenaia Michinaga: I suspect there was some confusion about dates... but I do very very little editing (spelling mostly)
    Bertrum Quan: The first I've heard of that issue in PaB
    stevenaia Michinaga: feel free to review the log when I post it for details
    Bertrum Quan: I will. Thanks.
    stevenaia Michinaga: I remember the person, but not from that session
    stevenaia Michinaga: Don;t know what could have happened, if anything
    Bertrum Quan: I look forward to reading the log.
    stevenaia Michinaga: I must go I;ll post it shortly
    stevenaia Michinaga: :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: take care
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    Originally written on 16:37, 11 Jun 2009
    Karoz is confused about the dates. The database log for May 24 19:00 is identical with what is posted here (as far as Karoz is concerned): he arrived at 19:34, disappeared at 19:35 and did not reappear.

    There was ANOTHER session in late May in which both Karoz and Steve were present, on the 29th at 19:00; Karoz arrived at 19:08 and stayed until 19:39. I suspect that he is remembering it and confusing the dates. The wiki page for that session is http://playasbeing.wik.is/Chat_Logs/2009/05/2009.05.29_19%3a00_The_Pain_and_Joy_of_Humor and it conforms to the database log.

    I've sent Karoz an IM about this.
    Posted 09:06, 9 Apr 2010
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