2009.06.23 07:00 - Cleverly worded Title

The Guardian for this meeting was Riddle Sideways. The comments are by Riddle Sideways.  Riddle hopes to return here to add lots of comments. There are so many inundos within that need commenting, explaining, exploring and playing around with. But, right now I just got an even better offer for my time.

2. I say somewhere in the following that I will edit is up so that Adams will come across more like Adams is.
3. Toward the end we actually discuss APAPB.
4. I edit in "APAPB" so the searchers will hit this page.

Riddle Sideways: Good Morning, Adams
Adams Rubble: Good morning Riddle :)
Riddle Sideways: you look very nice today
Adams Rubble: Thank you Riddle :)
Adams Rubble: I was brunette last Saturday night and it turned into a very silly sesion
Adams Rubble: I was a bit flighty. hehe
Riddle Sideways: do brunettes do that?
Adams Rubble: Well, maybe so (giggles)
Riddle Sideways: I always thought it was what is below the hair
Adams Rubble: you can look it up :)
Adams Rubble: uh oh
Adams Rubble: hehe

Riddle Sideways: I was scanning the logs just now
Riddle Sideways: there seem to be so many silent
Adams Rubble: I was alone here yesterday morning
Riddle Sideways: am wondering why so many empty sessions
Riddle Sideways: a trend?
Riddle Sideways: summer vacation
Adams Rubble: probably not
Adams Rubble: these things seem to come and go
Adams Rubble: maybe summer vacation
Riddle Sideways: we had a period of many ppl
Riddle Sideways: I got use to it
Adams Rubble: when I did the Chronicles I noticed that one evening there might be 15 people and the next night just the GOC
Adams Rubble: I am not sure we need to look for patterns
Adams Rubble: just appreciate what we find here
Riddle Sideways: ok (will stop looking)
Adams Rubble: hehe. not bad for a brunette, eh?
Adams Rubble: hehe
Riddle Sideways: lol

Riddle Sideways: personally/lately there has been too much happening to really SEE things
Riddle Sideways: details have taken over
Adams Rubble: in your RL?
Riddle Sideways: all lives
Adams Rubble nods
Riddle Sideways: dealing with tree bark flakes instead of forest management
Adams Rubble: easy to do
Riddle Sideways: seems just last week I could see everything connected
Adams Rubble: Amazing how quickly things can change back and forth isn;t it
Riddle Sideways: and now seems nothing connects or reaches outside

Adams Rubble: Last weekend I learned about emptiness
Riddle Sideways: was that just last week
Adams Rubble: :)
Adams Rubble: It seemed a negative term and was surprised to find it is just seeing that in the moment, there is nothing there until we write something on it
Adams Rubble: so we can quickly go in a new direction
Adams Rubble: It is such a freeing thought
Adams Rubble: I like your tag :)
Riddle Sideways: yes, but sudden turns are rough on the system
Riddle Sideways wonders when my tag got changed
Adams Rubble: It has seemed to me that this is not the same thing as a sudden turn
Riddle Sideways: use to be "Just"
Adams Rubble: :)

Riddle Sideways: Sine waves are more gentle
Adams Rubble: it is just a way to stop when we know we are going in a wrong direction
Adams Rubble: which in my case, it is at least 20 times a day. hehe
Riddle Sideways: stop and go take lots of energy
Riddle Sideways: turning is easier

Adams Rubble: I know, not direction but....
Adams Rubble: building up negative energy
Adams Rubble: then stopping and just letting it go
Adams Rubble: that can happen if we recignize the emptiness
Riddle Sideways: if we are swinging toooo far to one side (of anything) we swing back the other
Adams Rubble: I see what you are saying and for some reason this seems different to me and I wonder why
Riddle Sideways: going to emptiness is great... then leaves an empty that gets filled Riddle Sideways: turning is easier

Riddle Sideways: if we pick any one subject
Riddle Sideways: that has 2 parts (0/1)
Riddle Sideways: it often looks like we stop at one and start toward the other
Riddle Sideways: but in having to put away our toys and start picking up others
Riddle Sideways: we are really swinging
Riddle Sideways: on some sine wave
Adams Rubble: yes, I see that

Adams Rubble: but we don;t have to put away our toys, we just drop them
Adams Rubble: that's the neat part
Adams Rubble: no cleaning up
Riddle Sideways: yes,
Riddle Sideways: on only one digital subject we have deeper/taller and longer/short sine waves

Riddle Sideways: quick drop tools and start with nothing
Riddle Sideways: or long cleanup stackings
Adams Rubble: :)
Riddle Sideways: but, we so seldom have just one digital good/bad thing in the air at one time
Riddle Sideways: and we don't really play on a 2D plane of a paper drawn sine wave

Adams Rubble was thinking that you have been at this much longer than I and maybe it is enough for me just now to learn I can just let things go and start in a new direction. Maybe later learn to keep the swings shorter and more even keeled
Riddle Sideways: ok, but not sure I been at this longer
Riddle Sideways: we are about the same age
Adams Rubble: Yes, but I have only been at it since last June. I am still a child :)
Riddle Sideways: SL/wok/virtual maybe
Adams Rubble: I am on new ground
Riddle Sideways: maybe I have been playing since birth
Riddle Sideways: ah, then there is the realizing part
Adams Rubble: :)
Riddle Sideways: yes, each day I am a beginner
Adams Rubble: :)
Adams Rubble: maybe each moment :)
Riddle Sideways: yes
Riddle Sideways: a couple hors ago I had to re-learn that I can't be peacefullly mediative with work stuff on mind
Riddle Sideways: thought I had learned that

Adams Rubble: The shorter stops seem to help with that
Adams Rubble: I have gotten out of the habit of doing them regularly
Adams Rubble: help focus on what I am doing at work
Adams Rubble: the purpose rather than the "bark" you mentioned
Adams Rubble: there is peace in that
Riddle Sideways: regular appreciation seems easy

Riddle Sideways: regular seeing the presence getts harder
Riddle Sideways: less often
Adams Rubble nods
Riddle Sideways: of Appearance is even less often
Adams Rubble: no automatic method of getting to the presence if being part
Adams Rubble: it seems to come in its own good time
Adams Rubble: for me anyway
Adams Rubble: presence of Being
Adams Rubble: presentation of being
Adams Rubble: So I know I am living most of the time is a lesser mode
Riddle Sideways: good point

Riddle Sideways: Yet (for me) coming the other way works too
Riddle Sideways: Being seems always there
Riddle Sideways: the presentation of usually there
Riddle Sideways: here, there and everywhere
Adams Rubble: :)
Adams Rubble: that is great!
Riddle Sideways: I seem to have the least connect with appearence
Adams Rubble: hmmm
Riddle Sideways: coming from either side
Riddle Sideways: not sure why
Adams Rubble: maybe it is just words
Riddle Sideways: probably
Riddle Sideways: just a word that has 2 sides
Adams Rubble: if you spend much of your time with presentation and Being then appearances not so important I would think

Adams Rubble wondwers what pema would think of that if he reads this
Adams Rubble giggles
Riddle Sideways: not just Pema
Riddle Sideways: what will the gentle reader (praised be they) think of this
Adams Rubble waves to the gentle reader and Pema
Riddle Sideways: not sure if I should smile at or moon the reader
Adams Rubble is shicked
Adams Rubble: shocked
Adams Rubble: hehe

Riddle Sideways: ah, I just did a neat trick
Riddle Sideways: take any of those 5 simple words of APAPB
Riddle Sideways: and insert them one at a time into the sentence
Riddle Sideways:     "_____" is all there is

Adams Rubble: and it might some up the way we think at any one moment
Riddle Sideways: at any one moment, yes
Riddle Sideways: at any one moment the chosen word of the moment is themost important
Riddle Sideways: the central theme
Riddle Sideways: BUT, wait another moment just came along
Adams Rubble just had a thought
Adams Rubble: appearance is the sun coming up over the horizon and the colors in the clouds

Adams Rubble: Hello Sophia :)
Riddle Sideways: Hi Sophia
Riddle Sideways: or presentation is the colors in the cloads
Adams Rubble: I think appearance is the colors...it is a presentation of Being
Riddle Sideways: Sophia, please help us get out of these word twistings
Adams Rubble: hehe
Adams Rubble: You just need to move the slide a little to the left Riddle :)
sophia Placebo: what are you talking about
Adams Rubble: Riddle is a bit concerned he is missing appearance
Adams Rubble: I don;t think he is :)
Riddle Sideways: ha, with a good video card and glasses appearance is easy
Adams Rubble giggles

Riddle Sideways: but seriously
Riddle Sideways: we have been studying 5 simple words
Riddle Sideways: at any one moment some of the APAPB words are more/less central
Riddle Sideways: felt, real

Riddle Sideways: remember the Bio- feedback/charts?
Adams Rubble shakes her head no
Riddle Sideways: I have one on my Palm
Riddle Sideways: was a graph of physical, emotional and [something]
sophia Placebo: what are they for?
Riddle Sideways: were supposedly to show your "critical" days
Riddle Sideways: they cycle
Riddle Sideways: one is on 20 day cycle
Riddle Sideways: antoher on 30 day
Riddle Sideways: when they crossed the central line that was a critical time for you
Riddle Sideways: a very simple horiscope reading
Riddle Sideways: but showing 3 lines
Riddle Sideways: I am thinking of the 5 words cycling through importance
Riddle Sideways: and/or ease, relevence one at a moment
Riddle Sideways: then there is the compatiblity of my cycles to yours
sophia Placebo: hmm
Adams Rubble: there is compatability in our understanding of what words mean when we talk
Riddle Sideways: [as GOC, I get to edit this and it will make more sence (i hope)]
Adams Rubble looks at honest Riddle and hopes he will deal kindly with her
Riddle Sideways: in the edited version you much less brunette
Adams Rubble: hehe
Riddle Sideways: sorry, Sophia that was ref to early adams av caht
Riddle Sideways: chat
Adams Rubble: my running gag (need new material)
sophia Placebo: np :)
Adams Rubble: gag?
sophia Placebo: how did you miss the appearnace?
Riddle Sideways: hmmmm, I don'tthink I ever miss the appearance
Riddle Sideways: but (for me) it is the hardest of the 5 words
sophia Placebo: how so?
Riddle Sideways: oh dear, looking at it now. After you mentioning it that way ...
Riddle Sideways: I can't come up with why, how, where
Riddle Sideways: seems not difficult at all
sophia Placebo: hehe
Adams Rubble: :)
sophia Placebo: im still in chaos state with these terms
Riddle Sideways: Appearence is now the easiest thing in reality
Adams Rubble thinks they are easiest on left and harder going to the right
Riddle Sideways: choas and complexity are the learning places
Riddle Sideways: simple is peacefull, easy but not challenging
Riddle Sideways: we need both
sophia Placebo: simple is so challanging
sophia Placebo: not much work could be done on it
Adams Rubble: well, we get both whether we like it or not so we might as well appreciate it :)
Riddle Sideways: empty out the simple
sophia Placebo: complex keeps you busy discovering the process but simple strikes you with your limited knowladge or power
sophia Placebo: like a math eqation , the longest the esiest
Riddle Sideways: please stay and kept that thought line going, but I must depart to the next part of the play
Adams Rubble: bye Riddle
sophia Placebo: :) bye
Riddle Sideways: thank you both
Adams Rubble: you to Riddle :)
sophia Placebo: g2g see you later adams :)
Adams Rubble: bye Sophia, take good care :)