2009.06.16 19:00 - Being after birth and before death

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Eos Amaterasu. The comments are by Eos Amaterasu.

    The first half hour it was just the pavilion the recorder, and Eos


    Eos Amaterasu hears 15 minute bell, ding an sich



    Paradise arrives, and we discuss intensity and the dream of death 

    Paradise Tennant: hello :)
    Eos Amaterasu: Hi Paradise!
    Paradise Tennant: did I miss the session?
    Eos Amaterasu: It's been just me so far
    Eos Amaterasu: and the sound of the bell and the fountain
    Eos Amaterasu: :-)
    Paradise Tennant: ahh a quiet night so far
    Eos Amaterasu: it felt good to just stop, or not feel that I have to keep going
    Paradise Tennant: :))
    Eos Amaterasu: How are you being :-) ?
    Paradise Tennant: very well thank you and you :))
    Eos Amaterasu: Pretty well, pretty intense
    Paradise Tennant: :))
    Eos Amaterasu: Sometimes it seems the life and death issues or demands are the really solid and important ones
    Eos Amaterasu: which they are
    Paradise Tennant: yes
    Eos Amaterasu: but they open up an even bigger space underneath them
    Paradise Tennant: very much a time of focus ..those points
    Eos Amaterasu: appreciating the presence of those intense points
    Eos Amaterasu: the intensity of which also questions yourself
    Paradise Tennant: :)) I had a dream about death once.. it was not so bad ..
    Paradise Tennant: kind of freeing .. peaceful and rather a big feeling
    Eos Amaterasu: hmm, a bigger opening
    Eos Amaterasu: Funny that we think more about what happens after death than we do about what happens before birth :-)
    Paradise Tennant: a most excellen point !



    stevenaia joins an all to brief discussion


    Eos Amaterasu: Hi stevenaia
    stevenaia Michinaga: hello
    Paradise Tennant: hiya steve :)
    Eos Amaterasu: & we're kind of in between
    stevenaia Michinaga: yes Eos, very interesting perspective
    stevenaia Michinaga: life after death, life before birth
    Eos Amaterasu: & life in between :-)
    stevenaia Michinaga: never even heard of it dreamed about
    stevenaia Michinaga: or written about
    Paradise Tennant: the buddhists call it the bardo the pre being experience or the inbetween space :))
    stevenaia Michinaga: we think we take so much of us somewhere when we die, but we come into this world with the tools/skills we need to live a full life if we choose to
    Paradise Tennant: yes
    Eos Amaterasu: we come with a lot of presentation already packaged, so to speak
    Eos Amaterasu: all our senses, for example
    stevenaia Michinaga: yes we do come into this world with one thing...appreciation... for what feed us and keeps us alive, even before anything else, even before our first poop
    Paradise Tennant: yes which really create our concept of the world almost independent of what it likely really is :))
    Paradise Tennant: lol
    Eos Amaterasu: and within those sense fields we find ourselves
    Eos Amaterasu: and our worlds
    stevenaia Michinaga: have you thought about "before birth" Eos?
    Paradise Tennant: yes as we make it out to be
    Eos Amaterasu: "before birth" is an interesting thought :-)
    Eos Amaterasu: it's like that koan "what's your original face before your mother was born?"
    Eos Amaterasu: Experientially, I kind of find myself here
    Eos Amaterasu: That's part of the bardo, suspension, in between-ness
    Eos Amaterasu: I'm being presented
    Eos Amaterasu: as well as I'm presenting
    Paradise Tennant: yes
    Eos Amaterasu: I have tried to think the thought, "what if nothing had ever been?"
    Eos Amaterasu: It's an impossible thought
    Paradise Tennant: :))
    Paradise Tennant: hmm
    stevenaia Michinaga: might be easer to think about "before birth"
    stevenaia Michinaga: I must go
    Paradise Tennant: http://www.spiritualtravel.org/OBE/afterdeath.html
    Eos Amaterasu: What do you think about "before birth", stevenaia
    Eos Amaterasu: :-(
    stevenaia Michinaga: sorry, t;s late
    Paradise Tennant: :))
    Paradise Tennant: it is a big big big big question
    Eos Amaterasu: before things appear?
    stevenaia Michinaga: I'll be here tomorrow to assist the Guardian
    stevenaia Michinaga: yes :)
    Eos Amaterasu: Perhaps I'll see you - ciao!
    Paradise Tennant: i should go too .. I have a very early morning tomorrow ... be well eos .. be well steve :)))
    stevenaia Michinaga: thank you
    Eos Amaterasu: Midnight here: time to vanish!
    Eos Amaterasu: Thanks, bye!
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