2009.06.17 19:00 - From Both Sides Now

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    The Guardian for this meeting was...well..Tarmel asked Corvi but Corvi slept through it..Corvi posted it though. 


    SophiaSharon Larnia: Hi Pila
    Pila Mulligan: hi SophiaSharon
    SophiaSharon Larnia: how are you?? how is Hawaii :))
    Pila Mulligan: I am fine thanks, and the weather here has been nice today
    Pila Mulligan: how are you?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: happy just got back from vacation, glad to be back
    Pila Mulligan: hello Steve
    SophiaSharon Larnia: Hi Steve
    stevenaia Michinaga: hello Pila, been a while
    SophiaSharon Larnia: I have a silly question for you Pila
    Pila Mulligan: ok, silly question -- yes, nice to see you again Steve
    Pila Mulligan: :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: where do people who live in Hawaii go on vacation?
    Pila Mulligan: to Hawaii
    SophiaSharon Larnia: giggles
    Pila Mulligan: very inexpensive
    Pila Mulligan: nice beaches, restaurants, and no air fare, hotel or car rentals
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes, but id want to go on one of the helicopters
    Pila Mulligan: they will cost you
    Pila Mulligan: :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: I see the volcano is smoking up the palce, is that near you?
    Pila Mulligan: yes, the volcnao is 7 miles away
    Pila Mulligan: from my house
    stevenaia Michinaga: you downwind?
    Pila Mulligan: normally I am upwind
    Pila Mulligan: but when the wind is calm I get it
    Pila Mulligan: :)
    Pila Mulligan: otherwise the rest of the state gets it
    stevenaia Michinaga: how lucky for you
    Pila Mulligan: yes, it is ironic actually
    Pila Mulligan: I moved here from Maui several years ago and everyone said watch out for the vog (the volcano smog)
    Pila Mulligan: now they are getting it and I am not
    SophiaSharon Larnia: is it unsettling or do you get used to it
    Pila Mulligan: it is hard to get used to the intense part, a small amount of steam is actually not bad
    Pila Mulligan: like a sulfur spring
    Pila Mulligan: but there are now three lava outlets, and wehn I moved here there was only one
    Pila Mulligan: and they are in a triangle several miles apart
    Pila Mulligan: so there is much more steam now than before
    SophiaSharon Larnia: a constant reminder of the finite nature of matter would leave me feeling off balance
    stevenaia Michinaga: sounds like it looks lovely and must be hard t sleep with
    Pila Mulligan: it is just part of the neighborhood :) (he says with extreme respect:)
    SophiaSharon Larnia smiles
    Pila Mulligan: Hawaii volcanoes do not explode, like Mt St. Helenas did, for example
    Pila Mulligan: we have time ti ponder what Pele is doing
    stevenaia Michinaga: do you have pest that do strange things when the ground rumbles?
    Pila Mulligan: no, but I have me and I vibrate some then :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia nods
    stevenaia Michinaga: :)
    Pila Mulligan: haven't started barking yet though
    Pila Mulligan: where was your vacation SophiaSharon?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: Nashville TN
    SophiaSharon Larnia: ive never been there, and not much into country music but was interesting
    Pila Mulligan: nice
    Pila Mulligan: Gand Ol Opry
    Pila Mulligan: Grand*
    SophiaSharon Larnia: big music festival so many people, yes i was there
    Pila Mulligan: I bet it was fun
    Pila Mulligan: ever been to Preservation Hall in New Orleans?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: it was interesting to go with the new perspective i have from attending PaB
    SophiaSharon Larnia: oh yes Pila
    Pila Mulligan: I imagne so, music as being
    stevenaia Michinaga: How does it changes things?
    Pila Mulligan: jazz is fun too
    SophiaSharon Larnia grins
    SophiaSharon Larnia: it didnt change things, i just see what i missed before i think
    stevenaia Michinaga: I'll be in Montral for the Jazz fest the fist week of july
    SophiaSharon Larnia: cool Steve
    stevenaia Michinaga: we have friends we stay with there
    SophiaSharon Larnia: best way to do it!!
    SophiaSharon Larnia: imho anyway
    stevenaia Michinaga: evening have been quite ere lately
    stevenaia Michinaga: *here
    SophiaSharon Larnia: people away in the summer?
    Pila Mulligan: I've found myself busy outside during these times, now the weather is nice -- it starts at 4 pm here
    SophiaSharon Larnia: brb
    Pila Mulligan: :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: ok
    Pila Mulligan: today i had a tractor problem and got it fixed just about 4:00 pm, so it worked out ok
    SophiaSharon Larnia: back
    SophiaSharon Larnia: Hi Eos
    Pila Mulligan: hi Eos
    Pila Mulligan: wb SophiaSharon
    stevenaia Michinaga: hello Eos
    SophiaSharon Larnia: time to enjoy the day then Pila
    Pila Mulligan: yep -- how are you Eos?
    Eos Amaterasu: Fine - pretty busy lately - so glad to come by here...
    Pila Mulligan: same here
    SophiaSharon Larnia: i missed this place when i was away, read the chat logs :)
    Eos Amaterasu: I try to keep here inside the busyness
    SophiaSharon Larnia: ive been doing that a bit too Eos, hard to balance it sometimes
    Eos Amaterasu: It can be challenging! :-)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: i think part of my difficulty is thinking it is a challenge
    stevenaia Michinaga: balance what?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: keeping a calm state of mind in the hecticness of life
    Eos Amaterasu: stillness and movement
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :) movement and rest
    Eos Amaterasu: I suppose that's what "being in the zone" is
    stevenaia Michinaga: awww, seems to be less and less a concern over time, easier to be calm
    Pila Mulligan: for some reason stillness and movement have been occupying a lot of my meditation space recently
    Eos Amaterasu: they fill the whole of space :-)
    Pila Mulligan: :)
    Eos Amaterasu: stevenaia, what do you mean by "easier to be calm"?
    stevenaia Michinaga: I am just more calm as time passes
    Pila Mulligan: stillness correlates with excitement (as opposed to movement) in the sense of yin and yang, according to the I Ching -- so in that sense being still is indeed being calm rather than simply not moving
    stevenaia Michinaga: calm, patience, able to take more moments to myself
    Pila Mulligan: less excited? :)
    Eos Amaterasu: indeed... Play as Being can be found in stopping movement for 9 secs
    Eos Amaterasu: or in stopping without interrupting movement
    stevenaia Michinaga: I thought stillness of mind can also me part of movement, Pila
    Eos Amaterasu: the latter is both challenging and rewarding
    Pila Mulligan: yes indeed, grasshopper
    SophiaSharon Larnia: stopping without interupting movemnet, yes
    SophiaSharon Larnia laughs
    Eos Amaterasu: I think stevenaia also said it!
    stevenaia Michinaga: that what Tai Chi is helping with
    Pila Mulligan: on old tai chi teacher came by to visit today and we were talking about aging (I'm 63 and he is 60) -- he said he sees frailty associated with aging, but that the chi enregy is even more present
    SophiaSharon Larnia: what makes it more present?
    Pila Mulligan: perhaps easier stillness of mind as part of movement
    Pila Mulligan: from practice
    Eos Amaterasu: maybe also the very frailty lets the chi shine through more
    Pila Mulligan: yes, he was saying maybe it is a kind of compensating effect
    Pila Mulligan: similar idea to me
    SophiaSharon Larnia: do you find it difficult to communicate when you are in this 'zone' Eos?
    Eos Amaterasu: not at all
    SophiaSharon Larnia: how do you do it?
    Eos Amaterasu: I think you get more open, open to another, and more vulnerable which means more reachable
    Pila Mulligan: however, Sophia Sharon, a part of a calm state of mind may being have less need to say as many things
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes
    Eos Amaterasu: true
    Eos Amaterasu: old pond
    Eos Amaterasu: frog jump in water sound
    Pila Mulligan: slurp
    Eos Amaterasu: How do you find this zone, SophiaSharon?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: i can communicae best in pictures or music, not in words
    Pila Mulligan: I wa sjust thinking how a clam state of mind seems to let you describe an image rather that just put a thought into words
    SophiaSharon Larnia: poems maybe
    Eos Amaterasu: maybe a picture on a notecard?
    SophiaSharon Larnia giggles
    Pila Mulligan: :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: good idea
    stevenaia Michinaga: I was away for a moment ... but what you said about communicating in pictures rings especially true for me
    Pila Mulligan: ah, as in the art of seeing images of buildings?
    stevenaia Michinaga: when I was with pema and a few guardians on October, one of the things we did was ... as a goup, was to draw
    SophiaSharon Larnia: Hi Eliza
    Pila Mulligan: hi Eliza
    Eos Amaterasu: Eliza! Hi!
    stevenaia Michinaga: hello
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: , it was a rare momant, everyone drawing, no one talking any more
    Eliza Madrigal: Yikes... think my recorder won't work now... I'll be an invisible participant :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: i see you now Eliza :))
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Sophia. You are the only one I see :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: oh!
    Eos Amaterasu: (I see you, Eliza)
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Eos, Pila, Steven.... now there you all are :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: then, about every 9 seconds we woulfd pass the drwing for the enct person to work on
    Pila Mulligan: there are three more avis here, one to Sophia's left and two to her right
    Pila Mulligan: ahh :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: that is cool Steven
    Pila Mulligan: oh that is nice, a collecitve art work
    stevenaia Michinaga: the images are on the wiki somewhere, I posted them
    SophiaSharon Larnia: oh i must look for them
    Eos Amaterasu: engaging inside senses
    Pila Mulligan: Ade and I made a manadala here once on her drawing board, taking turns and contemplating the next stpes
    Pila Mulligan: it was also quiet fun
    Eliza Madrigal: i saw that log... was great
    Pila Mulligan: kind of like an art meditation
    Eos Amaterasu: in a way that's why/how people dance
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
    Pila Mulligan: nice association Eos
    Eliza Madrigal nods
    Eos Amaterasu: being in music, in movement, together, apart
    Pila Mulligan: cooperative creativity
    Pila Mulligan: or colective at least :)
    Pila Mulligan: it may not be coopeartive when he steps on her foot
    Eliza Madrigal: that breaks the tension so they can begin again
    Eliza Madrigal: once she stops limping
    Eos Amaterasu: grin and bear it
    SophiaSharon Larnia: I'll have to try the art thing next sitting around with friends
    SophiaSharon Larnia: next time*
    Eos Amaterasu: Excellent!
    stevenaia Michinaga: hello Eos
    stevenaia Michinaga: awww, here they are: http://playasbeing.wik.is/Informatio...7_-_19_October
    Pila Mulligan: have you ever tried the same mehtod with story telling/making?
    stevenaia Michinaga: we used to do it at meetings.... to pass the time
    Pila Mulligan: :) nice Steve
    Pila Mulligan: thanks
    Pila Mulligan: for the url
    Eliza Madrigal: great... can see how much fun that was
    stevenaia Michinaga: there are 11 total
    Eos Amaterasu checking out the drawings
    Eos Amaterasu: being avatars is like drawing ourselves
    SophiaSharon Larnia: then i must have 50 selves
    SophiaSharon Larnia: or so
    Eos Amaterasu: hou're an artist!
    SophiaSharon Larnia: (not alts tho!)
    Eos Amaterasu: you're
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia laughs... no just get bored
    SophiaSharon Larnia: theres alot in sl to express creativity with, im interested in doing so many things I dont excell in one area
    SophiaSharon Larnia: clothes, building structures, landscapes, instruments, odd objects like my chakras to play with scripts
    Eos Amaterasu: SL provides access to the paint of appearance
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :))
    Pila Mulligan: 'chakras to play with scripts'?
    Eos Amaterasu: Yes, was wondering about that ?!?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: i build a represntation on my chakras, and used scripts to move the individual chakras
    Eos Amaterasu: Ah!
    Eliza Madrigal: How interesting
    Pila Mulligan: is this somehitng you can show us?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: but they spin every where in odd ways so am learning, not ready to show yet
    Pila Mulligan: ok :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia grins
    Pila Mulligan: sound slike fun
    Eos Amaterasu: that's the trouble with chakras :-)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: can learn about yourself that way too
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hahah
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Pila Mulligan: maybe you could eventually script some mantras with the chakras showing a response :)
    Eos Amaterasu: One of the nice forms in SL is conversing while doing Tai Chi
    Eos Amaterasu: animated chakras are coming next :-)
    Eliza Madrigal: wow
    Pila Mulligan: now that is cool :
    SophiaSharon Larnia: not near done yet
    Eliza Madrigal: still picture worthy. may I?
    Eos Amaterasu: I can feel the heat!
    SophiaSharon Larnia: no not yet
    Pila Mulligan: for the record, Sophia Sharon *is* showing her chakra scultpure
    Eliza Madrigal: Okay :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: yes, please post it in the wiki
    Eliza Madrigal: that's really nice Sophia
    SophiaSharon Larnia: ok it is missing the crown
    SophiaSharon Larnia: the jewel
    Eliza Madrigal: Ah, wouldn't want that
    SophiaSharon Larnia: but you may take a picture for now
    Eliza Madrigal: great work though
    Eliza Madrigal: Oh, yes? Thanks.
    stevenaia Michinaga: time for me to say goodnight, thanks
    Eliza Madrigal: Night Steven
    Pila Mulligan: bye Steve
    stevenaia Michinaga: bye
    SophiaSharon Larnia: bye steve
    SophiaSharon Larnia: as you can see not done
    SophiaSharon Larnia: i am so self conscious now lol
    Eliza Madrigal: Ah, yours are better Pila
    Eos Amaterasu: That was great!!!
    Eos Amaterasu: Thnx Pila!
    SophiaSharon Larnia: so not finished
    Eliza Madrigal: Sophia, nothing to feel self-conscious about. Thanks for sharing that!
    Pila Mulligan: it is expressive :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: and not even a true representation, like i said, playing with scripts
    Eos Amaterasu: as much an avatar as your avatar
    SophiaSharon Larnia: was working on fireworks for the crown and lost them over a neighbors plot
    SophiaSharon Larnia: oopsie
    Pila Mulligan: with things like art of chakras, I'm not sure there is a 'true representation' -- just perceptions
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes Pila, a picture of the moment
    SophiaSharon Larnia: so to speak
    Eos Amaterasu: that's the movement of stillness,....
    Pila Mulligan: I'm always interested in the colors people associate with each chakra
    SophiaSharon Larnia: oh my goodness Eliza thank you so much
    Eliza Madrigal obviously has to learn about photography here in SL
    Eliza Madrigal: Pila's shot was fantastic and he didn't get up...hehe
    SophiaSharon Larnia smiles, its good
    Pila Mulligan: thanks ELiza, yours has better colors
    Pila Mulligan: maybe both can go in the log
    SophiaSharon Larnia: i will post it, but i do not have yours Pila
    Pila Mulligan: the muladhara of first chakra seems to often be red, but after that things vary quite a bit
    Eos Amaterasu: brilliant green
    Eos Amaterasu: (whups)
    Pila Mulligan: oh, I though t I gave it to you, just a se please
    SophiaSharon Larnia: the colors are more or less arbitrary
    SophiaSharon Larnia: atm
    Eliza Madrigal: even doing yoga for years I've not paid much attention to chakras until recently... was always sort of a background
    SophiaSharon Larnia: was reaching for balance
    SophiaSharon Larnia: ive only become interested in them lately
    Pila Mulligan: I love the chakras :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hahah
    Eliza Madrigal: Isn't it funny how you can go along and something be in your spheres (senses, etc) and yet not really pay attention
    SophiaSharon Larnia: the movement is what i was trying to pin down
    Pila Mulligan: movement?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: rotation, spin, the movement of the texture
    SophiaSharon Larnia: they all spin differently
    Eliza Madrigal: that the movement wasn't too frenetic or too slow, Sophia?
    Pila Mulligan: would it relate to the movement of breath energy?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: Eliza i was trying to 'see' my own, diagnostically you can say, and Pila, I'm not sure
    SophiaSharon Larnia: but in playing with it became more experimentation
    SophiaSharon Larnia: so got away from my original purpose
    Eliza Madrigal: learning by play :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: oh yes
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :))
    Pila Mulligan: thanks to PaB discussions I've recently made an 'aha' internalization of the discussion of sceince and ascetics about mind-brain ...
    SophiaSharon Larnia: please share
    Pila Mulligan: the ancients were not that concerned with the brain
    Pila Mulligan: so we should not really look there for the correlations with scinece
    Pila Mulligan: they were concerned with the spine
    Pila Mulligan: so the sicence correlations are in the autonomic nervous syetm
    Pila Mulligan: the ganglia of the spine
    Pila Mulligan: are most of the chakra
    SophiaSharon Larnia: like memories and emotional responses are stored in the body and nervous system
    Eliza Madrigal: quite a nice observation Pila!
    Pila Mulligan: yes
    Pila Mulligan: then I found there are actually a few web sites about it
    Pila Mulligan: trying to correlate the ANS ganglia with chakras
    Eliza Madrigal: Posture being vital for 'flow'
    Pila Mulligan: yes
    Pila Mulligan: not to crimp the nerves (ida and pingala in old terms)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes, i bought a book in the good will while on vacation that was about this very thing
    Pila Mulligan: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: what a coincidence ;-)
    Pila Mulligan: what is the book's name?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: the book wasnt that good (pop science) but that basic premise was there
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hold on
    Eliza Madrigal nods...sometimes that happens. You pick up something silly but then one part of it is significant
    SophiaSharon Larnia: awakening intuition
    Eos Amaterasu: REgretfully, I must leave.
    Pila Mulligan: I doubt that you can reasonably declare several millenia of comeptent observation invalid oin the basis of nuerology :0
    SophiaSharon Larnia: i didnt like the point of the book, so not advocating it, but this idea was there
    Eliza Madrigal: Ah, Night Eos. Good to see you.
    Eos Amaterasu: Thnx for great convs, demo, presence...
    Pila Mulligan: bye Eos, nice to visit with you
    SophiaSharon Larnia: bye Eos!
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes Eliza!
    SophiaSharon Larnia: you are right Pila
    SophiaSharon Larnia: (and LOL)
    Pila Mulligan: Amazon has thres such titles, an autor plaese?
    Pila Mulligan: author*
    SophiaSharon Larnia: mona lisa schulz, i think it was printed in 1992
    Eliza Madrigal: there is such an emphasis on posture in zen... and I really think it matters. It seems to matter a lot to how long one can sit, etc
    Pila Mulligan: thnaks
    Pila Mulligan: posture is very essential in meidtaiona ndlife
    SophiaSharon Larnia: and keep energy flow uninterupted perhaps
    Pila Mulligan: and life*
    Eliza Madrigal: yes
    Eliza Madrigal: age is in the spine, they say...flexibility
    Pila Mulligan: well, it may be a bit ore technical
    Eliza Madrigal: There is a lady in my UU buddhist group who must be 85...sits on the floor... so youthful
    Pila Mulligan: chi or prana is in the spine
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
    Pila Mulligan: and radiates throough the body
    Pila Mulligan: as you age and the moivement of prana slows, that can result in the aging symptoms
    Eliza Madrigal: hmm
    Pila Mulligan: but if the chi is present the symptoms are less worrisome
    Pila Mulligan: flexibiity is the essential part
    Eliza Madrigal: I like that you keep me focused on this Pila. I must thank you for bringing it up so often.
    Pila Mulligan: but so is internal movement -- they are rleated
    Pila Mulligan: it is my thang :)
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: giggles
    Eliza Madrigal: hehe
    Pila Mulligan: the Chinese meditaiton is so detaile don these ideas
    Pila Mulligan: and they play out so obviously in practice
    Pila Mulligan: SophiaSharon, Dr. Schulz has a webiste on the subject -- http://www.soulfulliving.com/awakeningintuition.htm
    SophiaSharon Larnia: while i agree with a bit that she states in the book, she does postulate that people become ill because they dont listen to their bodies
    Pila Mulligan: posture and yoga and tai chi all seek to facilitate breathing and the internal flow of breath energy
    SophiaSharon Larnia: ie it's your fault
    Pila Mulligan: opening up a little path in one place can have reprercussions all over
    SophiaSharon Larnia: this is greatly simplified of course, but thats how i see it
    Pila Mulligan: and closing alittle path has the same negatively
    Eliza Madrigal: Sophia, yes this is an issue I have with law of attraction type of teachings also... too simplistic
    SophiaSharon Larnia: oh yes Eliza!!
    SophiaSharon Larnia: this is a part of it, definately
    Eliza Madrigal: direct correlations don't work so often for me....
    SophiaSharon Larnia: but i think there is a reaction to the entire environment also
    SophiaSharon Larnia: other people, etc etc
    Eliza Madrigal: I can see a chain of events... and truthfully I do think there is something to be said for lstening to one's body... but I think it can be a trap to say __ =___
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes
    SophiaSharon Larnia: so i pick up the juicy bits and make my own conclusions
    Pila Mulligan: people sometime become ill because they are exposed to toxic substances
    Eliza Madrigal nods
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes
    Eliza Madrigal: we often want formulas
    SophiaSharon Larnia: they are hard to resist
    Eliza Madrigal: certainly
    SophiaSharon Larnia: ive been thinking alot about what you said a month or so ago, about patterns also Eliza
    Eliza Madrigal: we can learn from others' experience, and certainly there are pointers. Chakras are definitely one example
    Eliza Madrigal: yes Sophia?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: that we seek patterns
    SophiaSharon Larnia: ill have to find the log but will take forever, dont know where to look
    Eliza Madrigal: :) is okay
    Eliza Madrigal: what were you thinking?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: just occured to me that you were right
    SophiaSharon Larnia: oh goodness
    Eliza Madrigal thinks sophia just spied the time...heheh
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yup how did you know???
    Eliza Madrigal: hahha
    SophiaSharon Larnia grins
    SophiaSharon Larnia: i must go, have a great night Pila and Eliza!!!!
    Eliza Madrigal: Night Sophia :) Be well
    SophiaSharon Larnia: you too!
    Pila Mulligan: bye SophiaSharon, nice chat
    Eliza Madrigal: Are you sleepy too, Pila?
    Pila Mulligan: no it is only about 6 pm here, but you are in the same time zone as SophiaSharon, Eliza -- how about you?
    Eliza Madrigal: It is nearly midnight but I am wide awake :)
    Pila Mulligan: still light outside here
    Eliza Madrigal: Summer here... completely different schedule
    Eliza Madrigal: YES! haha
    Eliza Madrigal: well...here in SL is light for me
    Pila Mulligan: so you don't have to get the kids up for school
    Eliza Madrigal: no, and they've had friends over so are not in the least bit interested in me
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Pila Mulligan: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: I've been playing most of the day
    Pila Mulligan: how ?
    Eliza Madrigal: here online...chat to discussion to chat...
    Pila Mulligan: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Pila Mulligan: was the time session the first one?
    Eliza Madrigal: That is a marvelous insight re: the spine Pila...
    Eliza Madrigal: really opens things for me.
    Eliza Madrigal: No...had been at Pab already by that time! :)
    Pila Mulligan: yes, it has me quite interested in exploring it with Threedee and others
    Pila Mulligan: after the time session I took to the tractor and was mowing
    Eliza Madrigal: I'm so glad to be able to stay up for these later times now... have missed Three and Ade too
    Eliza Madrigal: :) Fun
    Pila Mulligan: yes, I've ont been to this session for a while
    Pila Mulligan: also
    Eliza Madrigal: The weather must be beautiful where you are now
    Eliza Madrigal: Here it is very very hot
    Pila Mulligan: it is nice, it would be hot if I wer enot up on the moiuntain
    Eliza Madrigal imagines being up on a mountain and sighs :)
    Pila Mulligan: mid-afternoon the tractor's shift linkage that had been stiff finally went kerplunk and I called the mechanic, full of fear at what it may be
    Pila Mulligan: but it was easy for him to fix and so I celebrated by coming to this session :)
    Eliza Madrigal: yay!
    Pila Mulligan: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Small blessings
    Eliza Madrigal: like my not getting a ticket on the way home from my mother's house recently.... felt huge relief. ..would have been $300 : )
    Pila Mulligan: yes, I read that in the log
    Eliza Madrigal: Though... I deserved it...
    Eliza Madrigal: sigh
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Pila Mulligan: guilt?
    Eliza Madrigal: No... but I take note
    Pila Mulligan: ahh
    Eliza Madrigal: I did inch to 90... but didn't realize...
    Pila Mulligan: wow
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Pila Mulligan: that is fast
    Eliza Madrigal: yes... a bit too fast :)
    Pila Mulligan: especially if you have not noticed :)
    Pila Mulligan: maybe cool at Daytona on purpose
    Eliza Madrigal: I'd put my ipod on at that point... was listening to "Homeward Bound"
    Eliza Madrigal: Simon & Garfunkel.... singing... heheh
    Pila Mulligan: if you were my daughter I may have some kindly advice
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Pila Mulligan: but you are my freind so I have some kindly advice
    Eliza Madrigal: haha
    Pila Mulligan: drive carefully ! :)
    Eliza Madrigal: yes sir :)
    Pila Mulligan: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: I did see the getting pulled over as a wake up actually...
    Eliza Madrigal: and my children have not let me forget :)
    Pila Mulligan: yep
    Pila Mulligan: :)
    Pila Mulligan: 'mommy was bad'
    Eliza Madrigal: yes!
    Eliza Madrigal: and police can be merciful
    Eliza Madrigal: He told them it was because I was so honest... hadn't been pulled over in almost 20 eyars :)
    Pila Mulligan: police can be arbitrary in several directions
    Eliza Madrigal: that too, this I do know :)
    Pila Mulligan: hopefully he is an example of an honest cop for them
    Eliza Madrigal: Anyway, happy that your tractor is okay....
    Pila Mulligan: me too, the tractor's name iod Dexter and he is agood buddy
    Eliza Madrigal: !!
    Eliza Madrigal: Dexter... a reason?
    Pila Mulligan: he is very dexterous
    Pila Mulligan: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6K8wfyzAJQ
    Eliza Madrigal: this is something I loved about being in the country for a little while.... the fields... so vast.
    Eliza Madrigal: haha
    Eliza Madrigal: Oh, thanks for the link :)
    Pila Mulligan: got me humming the tune, so I found it
    Eliza Madrigal smiling
    Pila Mulligan: tractors can turn on a dime, but that also can make them unstable -- so driving carefully is then avoding tipping over
    Pila Mulligan: like a tight turn on a hill
    Eliza Madrigal: Do you drive the tractor more than a car?
    Pila Mulligan: sometime syes
    Pila Mulligan: oh, look at this one -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqAJTCk6yHc
    Pila Mulligan: :)
    Pila Mulligan: way cool
    Pila Mulligan: Paul Simon and Willie Nelson
    Eliza Madrigal: I wondered this week whether I could acclimate to the different pace of rural life
    Eliza Madrigal: Oh, good!
    Pila Mulligan: I bet you could :)
    Pila Mulligan: they are defintiely harmonious :)
    Eliza Madrigal: I think so too... never thought so before
    Pila Mulligan: it is usually more nautral
    Pila Mulligan: and we came from nature to beign with :)
    Eliza Madrigal: I think I had baggage tangled up with the environment there
    Eliza Madrigal: and when that loosened, I found beauty
    Pila Mulligan: well, try a differnt location :)
    Eliza Madrigal: I had the only Obama sticker for the whole week! hahah
    Pila Mulligan: not all rural places are the same
    Pila Mulligan: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Pila Mulligan: yep
    Pila Mulligan: I love Willie Nelson
    Eliza Madrigal: he's a character...authentic
    Pila Mulligan: yes, authentic
    Pila Mulligan: okay, now I am on a music binge
    Eliza Madrigal: hehe..fine by me :)
    Pila Mulligan: A Song For You Ray Charles Leon Russell Willie Nelson
    Pila Mulligan: http://www.wat.tv/video/song-for-you...9x_1bv2q_.html
    Eliza Madrigal: Ooh nice, Pila.
    Pila Mulligan: http://video.google.com/videosearch?...8&sa=N&tab=iv#
    Pila Mulligan: the first link did not work for me
    Pila Mulligan: but it plays okay from google
    Pila Mulligan: music really soothes my soul
    Eliza Madrigal: The first worked for me
    Eliza Madrigal swaying
    Pila Mulligan: ahh, not sure -- maybe the slow connection here kept it form starting
    Pila Mulligan: :)
    Pila Mulligan: i saw Willie and Leon live in a concert on Maui several years ago -- it was uplifting
    Pila Mulligan: they really ha dfun too
    Pila Mulligan: had fun*
    Eliza Madrigal: ah...the piano in this is lovely
    Pila Mulligan: yes it is
    Pila Mulligan: Ray Charles
    Eliza Madrigal: feels the need to applaud :)
    Pila Mulligan: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: I have a newer song that I love...
    Pila Mulligan: yes, but smiling is enuf for me
    Pila Mulligan: whatis it?
    Eliza Madrigal: from the film "Once"...
    Eliza Madrigal: one moment...
    Pila Mulligan: is that the name, 'Once'
    Eliza Madrigal: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=938XY6DX02w
    Eliza Madrigal: yes
    Eliza Madrigal: The song won the Oscar last year... very sweet
    Eliza Madrigal: the commentary at the beginning wasn't quite something I was looking for though...heheh
    Pila Mulligan: but it is funny
    Eliza Madrigal: hehe..yes
    Eliza Madrigal: the film itself is funny... quirky
    Eliza Madrigal: but nice
    Pila Mulligan: lovely song
    Pila Mulligan: won an Oscar -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falling_Slowly
    Eliza Madrigal: I've listened to this soundtrack a hundred times by now... just fell in love with it
    Pila Mulligan: did yuo see the film?
    Eliza Madrigal: yes
    Eliza Madrigal: I was one of maybe ten people in the theature
    Eliza Madrigal: theatre
    Pila Mulligan: ah, missed this earlier: [21:24] Eliza Madrigal: The song won the Oscar last year... very sweet :)
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: The friend that I took to the film hasn't forgiven me though... she found it tedious but I didn't :)
    Pila Mulligan: :)
    Pila Mulligan: it looks like classic romance
    Eliza Madrigal: He is the leader of a band called The Frames...some nice things
    Pila Mulligan: yep, readng about the film - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Once_(film)
    Eliza Madrigal: it is and isn't...not typical
    Pila Mulligan: the song has a nice Celtic tone to it
    Eliza Madrigal: I tend to like singer/songwriters... even if with 'imperfect' voices and such...would rather have that
    Eliza Madrigal: yes
    Pila Mulligan: ""I had been falling in love with her for a long time, but I kept telling myself she's just a kid," says Hansard, 37, who has known his 19-year-old costar for the past six years."
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Her voice can be absolutely devastating
    Eliza Madrigal: there are songs... so sensitive
    Pila Mulligan: now this is funny: "Hansard says that ad-libbing produced the moment where Irglova's character tells the Guy in unsubtitled Czech, "I love you," but when it was shot, he didn't know what she'd said, just like his character."
    Pila Mulligan: SophiaSharon!
    Pila Mulligan: are we dreamiing?
    Eliza Madrigal: Sophia! hahah Hello
    Pila Mulligan: no, it will do itself
    Pila Mulligan: or we can do it now if you like
    Eliza Madrigal: http://rutube.ru/tracks/793952.html
    Pila Mulligan: we've been chasing music videos since you left
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Pila Mulligan: well, it is nice to see you again
    Eliza Madrigal: We should be in pajamas
    Eliza Madrigal: Bye :)
    Pila Mulligan: bye
    Eliza Madrigal: this link isn't the best of her voice
    Pila Mulligan: I'm appropaiutely in overalls :)
    Eliza Madrigal: but it does give you another sample of the soundtrack
    Pila Mulligan: appropriately*
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: creative spelling
    Pila Mulligan: this one is slow loading here
    Pila Mulligan: :)
    Pila Mulligan: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBLDP0Etp3Y
    Pila Mulligan: same
    Eliza Madrigal: Ah, better!!
    Eliza Madrigal: In this you can hear her heart
    Pila Mulligan: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Sigh
    Eliza Madrigal: anyway, like this! haha
    Eliza Madrigal: in the tradition of Paul and Willie and Ray and John, etc :)
    Eliza Madrigal: and Joni :)
    Pila Mulligan: :)
    Pila Mulligan: this is more romantic :)
    Pila Mulligan: you can hear more of her heart
    Eliza Madrigal: yes exactly
    Eliza Madrigal: genuine-ness
    Pila Mulligan: hmm, fun -- now what?
    Eliza Madrigal: It was funny that in the Oscars they shuffled her off-stage but John Stewart (I think) brought her back to be able to say Thank You
    Pila Mulligan: ahhh -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcrEqIpi6sg
    Eliza Madrigal: ooooh I do love this
    Pila Mulligan: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: she's a marvelous painter also
    Pila Mulligan: Joni Mitchell - Both Sides Now
    Pila Mulligan: "so many things I would have done but clouds got in my way"
    Eliza Madrigal ponders
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmzN1p5q2sY
    Eliza Madrigal: Do you know this Joni? I looked for this for years after hearing a Crosby Stills Nash Young recording of it... didn't realize it was hers :)
    Pila Mulligan: yes
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Pila Mulligan: it is one of her best
    Eliza Madrigal: I was surprised at the time... had been singing snippets of it to people for years...haha
    Pila Mulligan: it is a lovely song indeed
    Pila Mulligan: now after this, mayeb you wil enjoy Kealii Reichel -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MynGNffwV0g -- but after Joni :)
    Pila Mulligan: her voice has such a naturally beautiful range
    Eliza Madrigal: painful in places
    Pila Mulligan: Kealii is a Hawaiian chanter and hula master who also became a very popular singer
    Eliza Madrigal: oh wow...what a beginning to this...
    Pila Mulligan: many of his songs are Hawaiian, but this is a nice version of a popular US song
    Pila Mulligan: yes, the chant
    Pila Mulligan: thatis his real self coming thru
    Eliza Madrigal: a very clear voice... very very nice
    Eliza Madrigal: had to close my eyes there... nice ending
    Pila Mulligan: this is alos a nice one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdapA...eature=related
    Eliza Madrigal: feels like church :)
    Pila Mulligan: :)
    Pila Mulligan: spirit moves
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Pila Mulligan: now, last but not least, here is one where he sings in his own language and element http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47w5y...eature=related
    Eliza Madrigal: this is a lullabye :)
    Pila Mulligan: http://www.huapala.org/Lei_Halia.html -- the lyrics trsnlated
    Pila Mulligan: " Adorned with a lei of fond recollection A permeating fragrance that comes sweetly Beckoning to me in the deep of the night Dream sleep gently there in the heart "
    Eliza Madrigal listening happily... If I didn't listen closely sounds like Spanish..similar
    Eliza Madrigal: MMM
    Pila Mulligan: yes, the vowels are the same
    Pila Mulligan: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Pila Mulligan: sweet Hawaiian music
    Eliza Madrigal: Truly a lullabye... can't stay awake after this!
    Pila Mulligan: and it is still daylight here :)
    Eliza Madrigal: very sweet
    Pila Mulligan: well, sweet dreams Eliza :)
    Eliza Madrigal: To you also Pila. :) Thanks and Nite.
    Pila Mulligan: see you next time
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Pila Mulligan: aloha `oe
    Eliza Madrigal: Aloha :)
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