2009.10.04 01:00 - Love your Neightbours

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    Moon Fargis: morning bert
    Moon Fargis: morning quel
    Quel Karillion: Morning Moon, Bert :)
    Bertram Jacobus: whaow - you are already here ! that´s early ! ... :-)
    Moon Fargis: morning susi
    Moon Fargis: morning star ^^
    Quel Karillion: Morning Star, Susi :)
    Moon Fargis: bert: *gääääääähhn*
    Stargate Tone: Hello Bert, Quel, Moon
    Bertram Jacobus: so hello again : moon and quel and susi and stargate ... :-)
    Moon Fargis: how is everyone this morning?
    Quel Karillion: I'm good :)
    Bertram Jacobus: ty. better. and you ?
    Stargate Tone: _/!\_ :)*
    Moon Fargis: im ok , just waiting that my family get out of the bath and i can get in ^^
    Stargate Tone: oh...U've been ill Bert ?
    Bertram Jacobus: a whole family in your bath !? that´s awesome ! ... (*lol*) :o)
    Bertram Jacobus: no stargate. i´m attacked already for some month by my neighbour ... :-(
    Quel Karillion: big bath :)
    Moon Fargis tapes a waterpistol and wettens bert
    Stargate Tone: that I knew yes
    Stargate Tone: so that's got something better ?
    Bertram Jacobus: but now she wrote a "dokumentation" when my nightly disturbances had been and when and she took days i was not here but in austria - i hope this will end the fight -
    Bertram Jacobus: she sent that to the landlord and he to me ...
    Bertram Jacobus: lets moon wetten me :o)
    Moon Fargis: ah my inventory isnt loaded
    Moon Fargis: lucky guy
    Stargate Tone: so you could reply already to your landlord ?
    Bertram Jacobus: he gave me time until the 10th of october. i´m still working on it
    Stargate Tone: time to reply ?
    Bertram Jacobus: yes
    Stargate Tone: ah
    Stargate Tone: good
    Bertram Jacobus: terrible situation ...
    Stargate Tone: so; I also think that such 'document' was only good for you
    Bertram Jacobus: but now more then clear normally
    Stargate Tone: that you can proove her way
    Moon Fargis: maybe they want you out so some other family members of them can go in +
    Bertram Jacobus: "but what is normal ?" ...
    Stargate Tone: hm
    Bertram Jacobus: absolutely. my proofs are very clear
    Stargate Tone: well; depends on which thing that is the question
    Bertram Jacobus: no. it´s a big company. they write in a for me not understandable way. nearly silly
    Stargate Tone: I once got the thought that the normal human life is such that one's karma shall come true
    Moon Fargis: wohnungbau genossenschafft ?
    Bertram Jacobus: no. big private investor. rich man with a big company
    Moon Fargis: ahyes
    Stargate Tone: so; he surely wants to have good residents; not such kind your neighbour is
    Bertram Jacobus: i define "normal" simply as norm, majority. like in math ...
    Stargate Tone: which you now can proove
    Moon Fargis: ah the bath is fre, brb ^^
    Stargate Tone: see you soon Moon
    Stargate Tone: so; that I take to be normal with rich people too
    Quel Karillion: Have a nice bath Moon :)
    Bertram Jacobus: but he tooks the neighbours view in at least one writing - i don´t understand that. they say i had to leave and they did not ask for my sight of the things before that writing (!) . again : i can´t understand that. no trouble was before ...
    Bertram Jacobus: but i´m new in this house and the neighbor already long here ...
    Bertram Jacobus: no good story
    Bertram Jacobus: but nice to learn
    Bertram Jacobus: i´m not angry with anybody
    Stargate Tone: well; that is also very normal that the 'attack is the best defence'
    Bertram Jacobus: only attacked
    Stargate Tone: cuz that is normal that the first info one gets, he/she is not interested to think, so; he/she beliefs
    Stargate Tone: as that sadly still is 'not-normal' that people would think....
    Stargate Tone: specially if the company is big...
    Bertram Jacobus: may be. but nor very nice nor good
    Stargate Tone: true
    Bertram Jacobus: i see we agree
    Stargate Tone: that's why there's so huge much probs still to fix things based on lies
    Bertram Jacobus: but now already for me the thing is very clear. i hope that will be for the landlord and his employees same
    Stargate Tone: hope so too, and have 'surpport' of rational thinking too to that hope
    Bertram Jacobus: and i know i can feel more free here. before i feared with every whispering in my flat to disturb the neighbour. that has ended now
    Stargate Tone: *
    Stargate Tone: that's more than good thing
    Bertram Jacobus: yes. a piece of freedom came back
    Bertram Jacobus: but it is still a sad situation. i think about my neighbour : how must he feel (!) ? ... :-(
    Stargate Tone: not well
    Bertram Jacobus: very bad i fear
    Quel Karillion: yes, sad situation definitely...
    Bertram Jacobus: yes. and how can he come to a better feeling again ?
    Stargate Tone: she's sure felt bad for some reason already starting to attack you
    Stargate Tone: well...may I tell a story of my RL just a while ago
    Bertram Jacobus: yes. lets wish that also she comes to a better feeling again ! [15 secs] ... ;-)
    Stargate Tone: as there was this woman who claimed that I owe her money, and she had some items which are urgent to me and my friend, and she promised to give them back after I'de pay to her
    Stargate Tone: but I didnt
    Stargate Tone: I just let time to go by and thought that she'll let the truth to effect that she was doing wrong
    Stargate Tone: so ; that happened
    Bertram Jacobus: beside : nobody of us had claimed this session ?
    Stargate Tone: Moon shall do it
    Bertram Jacobus: whaow. nice. i also had such experiences (that truth came trough) - how did it happen ? :-)
    Stargate Tone: I've seen the truth to cam trhough more quickly and completed by late years 'all the time'
    Stargate Tone: thinking that it's cuz people have started to get rid of there fears
    Bertram Jacobus: important point ...
    Moon Fargis: re ^^
    Stargate Tone: as there's been many such fears that have kept people to be quiet even if they know the truth
    Bertram Jacobus: re moon :-)
    Stargate Tone: wb Moon
    Bertram Jacobus: yes
    Moon Fargis: ahyes fears are always a goot tool to keep people quiet and under controll
    Bertram Jacobus: and i now have the sentence in my mind "absolute freedom is beyond hope and fear" ...
    Stargate Tone: _/!\_
    Quel Karillion smiles.
    Moon Fargis: hmhm
    Moon Fargis: well
    Moon Fargis: get a kid from the street
    Moon Fargis: collect some dog shit
    Moon Fargis: put it in a bag
    Moon Fargis: then let the kid place it infront of the door and set it on fire :)
    Bertram Jacobus: which door ?
    Moon Fargis: and see what happens when they open the door
    Moon Fargis: from your bad neghtbours :)
    Bertram Jacobus: and why ?
    Moon Fargis: lol
    Bertram Jacobus: oh
    Bertram Jacobus: tz tz ;-)
    Moon Fargis: hey ima kid atm ^^
    Quel Karillion grins.
    Stargate Tone: cannot but laugh
    Bertram Jacobus: very ancient method ... ;-p
    Stargate Tone: specially cuz I know that Bert shall not do such
    Moon Fargis: but works :)
    Stargate Tone: but very good idea in itself *
    Stargate Tone: but ...well...
    Stargate Tone: that would also be revenge...
    Stargate Tone: as we are persont ment to cut them circles of revenge...
    Moon Fargis: hehe
    Moon Fargis: well
    Moon Fargis: he didnt done it
    Moon Fargis: it was the kid :)
    Stargate Tone: lol
    Moon Fargis: bert would have absolutley nothing todo with it *giggles*
    Stargate Tone: so; that kid learned already early age to revenge
    Bertram Jacobus: i would have a lot to do with that !
    Stargate Tone: and Bert would't like to teache that either
    Moon Fargis: ^^ hmhmmmmm
    Bertram Jacobus: i have no joy when people suffer
    Stargate Tone: but yes Bert; I think there's even several options to that neighbour to let the truth come through
    Bertram Jacobus: time will show ...
    Stargate Tone: ah sure Moon was also kidding
    Moon Fargis: ^^
    Stargate Tone: bringing the normal way of 'thinking' out
    Bertram Jacobus: may be here can be the association again : what is normal ? ...
    Moon Fargis: ah what kind of neightbours are they? germans ?
    Moon Fargis: mens ? or just one woman ?
    Bertram Jacobus: yes. a woman around 45 years old, mostly in akind of woodstock clothes ... :-(
    Stargate Tone: ohhhhhhhh
    Stargate Tone: Bert
    Bertram Jacobus: and her friend. they often travel to india for some month ...
    Stargate Tone: male friend ?
    Stargate Tone: well
    Bertram Jacobus: yes
    Stargate Tone: no matter
    Stargate Tone: hm
    Moon Fargis: hmmmmmm
    Stargate Tone: ...sry but I cannot help myself anymore thinking that I've felt her reason to behave against you that way ....but sure I could be wrong too
    Moon Fargis: whyn ot use another tactic then
    Moon Fargis: f they are addicted to india, and maybe hinduism
    Stargate Tone: oh...how to put it into the words ...
    Moon Fargis: then just get a "om" sign to yur door
    Bertram Jacobus: i´m very interested in your thoughts about thet now star. curious ... :-)
    Stargate Tone: ...that she's just annoied cuz you had not get your attention to her enough....
    Stargate Tone: oh Bert...might you neither know what you 'do' to women...just existing...
    Stargate Tone: that she simply can been just willing to 'revenge' you ....
    Stargate Tone: something you have not had even an idea...
    Stargate Tone: ....said so many times, that there's no more worse 'thing' but the woman who's turned down by man...
    Bertram Jacobus: that´s right : in contrary i have to admit : i disobeyed her seemingly needs of respect in a more than normal way she seemed want to have. it was too unsane for me to accept that ... :-(
    Stargate Tone: oh heavens...
    Stargate Tone: well
    Stargate Tone: that's such illness in woman that I donno much options to be healed...
    Stargate Tone: like it's said in the bible; 'cursed is the man who dont help the woman in heat'...
    Bertram Jacobus: i only know : the ways of reality and being sometimes are very unexpected ! ...
    Stargate Tone: I think that that curse is done by this woman and is very true
    Bertram Jacobus: and not be be thought before ... so much creativity sometimes !
    Bertram Jacobus: so unusual ways !
    Stargate Tone: well...you surely need your creativity if you want to try to heal her
    Bertram Jacobus: i try to come to the wu wei state also in this ...
    Bertram Jacobus: i think that´s best
    Bertram Jacobus: a friend of mine now said : simply let it go
    Bertram Jacobus: i did what i had to do
    Bertram Jacobus: let´s see wheather some more happens. may be it´s over already now, after her last writing ...
    Moon Fargis: doubt so
    Stargate Tone: ...one of them women in SL showed out to hate me still even I never done anything bad to her, but her those days bf spoke warmly of me cuz he and me are good friends....and even that women herself left this man, she's 'on the path of revenge' to me all the way she think she could
    Quel Karillion: this particular case could be but... do you really think she'll leave it at that?
    Stargate Tone: even that happened nearly a year ago that she left this man
    Bertram Jacobus: she should. otherwise that could be given to a court ...
    Bertram Jacobus: could become a question for accusation ...
    Quel Karillion: Bert, I don't speak of her continuing to claim you disturb the peace.
    Bertram Jacobus: oh
    Bertram Jacobus: what then please ?
    Quel Karillion: do you truly think she won't think up another way of going after you?
    Stargate Tone: agree with Quel
    Bertram Jacobus: may be. i´m so unexperienced in such things
    Stargate Tone: (starting to think if Moon's given idea should be done)
    Stargate Tone: ah sure not
    Stargate Tone: for the kid
    Bertram Jacobus: and i think fro sure (?) also about moving again ... but at first i need some time for it and second - it´s no nice idea : costs and makes trouble again . but ... (i think you know what i feel and mean)
    Quel Karillion: yes
    Moon Fargis: hehe
    Stargate Tone: yes we do
    Moon Fargis: i would prefer using the "om" method
    Bertram Jacobus: [15 secs]
    Moon Fargis: pff
    Moon Fargis: Meep Meep ;P :p:P :p :P
    Stargate Tone: well; that would also give the accusing of 'dirting the property'
    Moon Fargis: i had my 9 secs :)
    Stargate Tone: so; nothing illegal sure cannot be done
    Bertram Jacobus: ups - 90, not 15 ... :o)
    Bertram Jacobus: strange, how sometimes the mind makes such mistakes
    Quel Karillion: if you intend to insist on the 90 secs, please follow it by insisting after the 90 seconds :P
    Bertram Jacobus: and i already appreciated the tibetan thangkas in their flat at the beginning here ... and told them how i would like these ... :-/
    Stargate Tone: oh heavens
    Stargate Tone: you might have 'dag your grave' even by that....
    Moon Fargis: ooh
    Moon Fargis: well
    Moon Fargis: then theres a even better sollution
    Moon Fargis: bert
    Bertram Jacobus: i only want to express that i try not to write in the 90 secs. and that makes most sense when i do it in the 90 secs. and hi and bye i somtimes write in brackets then ...
    Moon Fargis: just write a anymout letter without name, "the way of buddhism" how buddhists should behave, lead my love for other people
    Moon Fargis: aso
    Quel Karillion: Hi Cos :)
    Moon Fargis: hi cos ^^
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: Hi ;9
    Stargate Tone: Hello Co
    Bertram Jacobus: digged a grave by appreciating their thangkas ? why that star ??
    Bertram Jacobus: hello cosmic :-)
    Stargate Tone: that strengthened her intrest to you dear Bert
    Stargate Tone: -Cos; we have been spoken of Berts neighbour giving hard time to him cuz he has not given his attention to this woman enough
    Stargate Tone: so; you can also 'see the pic'
    Bertram Jacobus: that would be great moon, but i fear, at the moment i can´t do anything at the normal stage. have to wait, to wish, to be quiet, to leave them not disturb with any action ...
    Stargate Tone: your very right Bert
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ahh..
    Moon Fargis: :D
    Stargate Tone: but yes; be aware that she , even the base way she's been doing would stop, her will to hurt you remains
    Stargate Tone: and can even get worse
    Bertram Jacobus: heavy how intense the acting of persons can be ...
    Stargate Tone: and yes; no bad doing can be for help; indeed
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: Thanks for pic Moon ;)
    Moon Fargis: ^^
    Stargate Tone: but...wanna introduce my special friend Cos; she's one of them strongest women I know to defend the truth
    Bertram Jacobus: whaow
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ;) Thank You Dear Star..
    Stargate Tone: and yes; won many battles without doing anything bad
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: Well, we can do noting but listen our Hearts..
    Quel Karillion smiles.
    Bertram Jacobus: but with the heart should also be some rationality shouldn´t it ?
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: But turning my lood to somewhere else, if something my seeing is bad or kind of ugly, we can always turn our head to look something more beautifull, without doing anything more
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: Why?
    Stargate Tone: well Bert
    Stargate Tone: with the matter of this kind of woman's heart has nothing to do with the rational thinking
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ;) Bingo
    Stargate Tone: but she yes has not listen to her heart, but her will to own
    Bertram Jacobus: because otherwise may be it is not truth anymore. some people say they would follow their hearts and they do things motivated by attachments and such -
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: Thinking is in head I think.. and in heart there I fiund out the Truth
    Stargate Tone: but they do not genuinly listen to there heart, but there fears and will to own and such
    Bertram Jacobus: it´s funny : the tibetans for example see the mind in the heart region (!) ... :-)
    Stargate Tone: when one is lightened, that is true
    Stargate Tone: to be honest also to one's feelings and motions and examine all bad that why that feeling exists
    Stargate Tone: is to follow the philosophy of the path of love
    Stargate Tone: but that is the choice ; all dont make that choice
    Bertram Jacobus: for me the ways of love also are the ones i want to go
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: Isn`t it listening of Heart <3 ;)
    Stargate Tone: ...that can been also the choice of that woman, but she's not been able to help herself to want you so much that she made a war....
    Bertram Jacobus: "but" i think, we live in an age of science and mind and such. and there is also a possibility to help to come to good ways. because i think, the real ways of love compare 1:1 to science, too
    Stargate Tone: so; one particle of the truth can 'be there' and be good, but her will is not good for you
    Stargate Tone: oh yes,,,but indeed; that has nothing to do with this kind of prob
    Stargate Tone: the science can never 'kill' that woman's feelings
    Bertram Jacobus: agree
    Stargate Tone: so; as we know that love is the only energy that heals
    Stargate Tone: ...there's the situation that the medicine might even make the prob to be even worse...
    Bertram Jacobus: but as i tried to express already : i think, it is the best at the moment to let the topic develop by itself as far as possible to me. it´s not easy but i did what had to be done and i see no more needs for further actions at the moment. and i hope i don´t bother the circles here too much with all that ! ...
    Stargate Tone: and look upon the good things there is *
    Bertram Jacobus: jesus sentence of loving also the "enemies" is ... direction and advice for me. i do so or try to do so.
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: Things are about to shere ;)
    Moon Fargis: i wonder
    Moon Fargis: what would happen
    Moon Fargis: when you ring o her door
    Moon Fargis: and give her a hug
    Moon Fargis: wb quel
    Bertram Jacobus: she would go to a lawyer i think
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: well in my "dreams" when have been a war, and some man have wanted to hurt me; I have kissed my enemy straight to his lips
    Stargate Tone: wb Quel
    Bertram Jacobus: wb quel
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: after that this person was no-more my enemy in my dream ;)
    Moon Fargis: wel cosmic
    Moon Fargis: thats how mens brain work out :)
    Stargate Tone: that too,,,but ...was it the dream ?
    Stargate Tone: then it dont mean any person...
    Bertram Jacobus: when a man does the same with a woman its often called violation (!)
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: I dont think so it was an original dream.. it was true
    Stargate Tone: sadly
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: but not knowing the person I kissed
    Stargate Tone: sure
    Stargate Tone: hm
    Stargate Tone: well
    Stargate Tone: oh yes
    Stargate Tone: as didn't notice to tell you Cos:
    Stargate Tone: all here is recorded and published in web
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: hmm.. but I think if I am on bad mood, and man do kiss me, I might guess that bad mood will fade away imidiately. ;)
    Stargate Tone: yes, but you are you
    Quel Karillion: :)
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ;) ah.
    Stargate Tone: your nothing like this woman is
    Quel Karillion: Moon's the guardian today. If you want something left out, just ask him to leave it out
    Moon Fargis: ˙·•| mmh *nods* |•·˙
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: Its okey. I like said everyghing is for share ;)
    Stargate Tone: well; just thought that if that was a dream, it surely has an other meaning
    Stargate Tone: yet; that men's brain do work out the different way; that is true too
    Stargate Tone: oh how nice 'pyramid' we create with our AV; with the open top :)****
    Quel Karillion smiles.
    Quel Karillion felt something completed when Cos sat down.
    Moon Fargis: *grins*
    Stargate Tone: _/!\_
    Moon Fargis: sorry being a bt disattracted, reediting a video :)
    Stargate Tone: *
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: <3
    Bertram Jacobus: "okay" - i think, i´ll leave. ty all for the talk ... and may all beings be happy please
    Stargate Tone: and soooooooooooooooooooo awasome one _/!\_
    Moon Fargis: see you son bert:)
    Moon Fargis: soon
    Moon Fargis: an good luck
    Stargate Tone: yes; good luck
    Bertram Jacobus: ty again. and have a good time all ! :-)
    Stargate Tone: and love *
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: Have fun ;)
    Quel Karillion: Oh, Bert left
    Quel Karillion: Well, time for me to go too :)
    Quel Karillion: See you later :)
    Stargate Tone: see you later
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: Okey, Bye Quel. See You ;)
    Quel Karillion: Have a good day :)
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: You too

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