2011.12.01 13:00 - Affecting Dynamics

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    [13:03] Bleu Oleander: hiya Sam
    [13:03] oO0Oo Resident: Hi Bleu
    [13:04] Bleu Oleander: hi Zon
    [13:04] oO0Oo Resident: Hi Zon, Hi Arch
    [13:04] Bleu Oleander: brb
    [13:05] oO0Oo Resident: Hi SSL!
    [13:05] SophiaSharon Larnia: hi everyone
    [13:05] SophiaSharon Larnia: sorry to be late
    [13:05] oO0Oo Resident: no worries mate
    [13:05] SophiaSharon Larnia: smiles
    [13:05] oO0Oo Resident: Hey Qt!
    [13:06] Qt Core: Hi all
    [13:06] SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Qt
    [13:06] Archmage Atlantis: Hello Samúð (oo0oo). Do you begin to see answers?
    [13:06] Bleu Oleander: hi Qt, Sophis
    [13:06] Bleu Oleander: Sophia
    [13:06] SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Wol
    [13:06] oO0Oo Resident: :) Wol
    [13:06] Eliza Madrigal: Qt, so nice to see you... been a while

    [13:07] Wol Euler: who said you couldn't skate in high heels :)

    [13:07] Eliza Madrigal: Hi everyone :)
    [13:07] Bleu Oleander: hehe
    [13:07] Eliza Madrigal: what? found a way Wol?
    [13:07] SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Eliza
    [13:07] oO0Oo Resident: lol Wol
    [13:07] Wol Euler: yep :) these
    [13:07] Wol Euler: from Bax Coen
    [13:07] oO0Oo Resident: Hi Eliza
    [13:07] Eliza Madrigal: zooms
    [13:07] Bleu Oleander: NICE
    [13:07] Eliza Madrigal: wow
    [13:07] Wol Euler grins.
    [13:07] Eliza Madrigal: very high, too
    [13:07] Bleu Oleander: have to get those

    [13:07] oO0Oo Resident: If it can be done.. Wol can do it in high heels.. :)

    [13:07] Eliza Madrigal: hehe
    [13:08] Eliza Madrigal: :))
    [13:08] Wol Euler: hello arch, bleu, qt, eliza, sam, sophia
    [13:08] Qt Core: wow, i sat on the cushion and ended several meters under ground level and dozens away
    [13:08] SophiaSharon Larnia: I see you on the cushion, qt
    [13:08] Qt Core: (had to tp back)

    [13:08] Wol Euler: bleu's are much nicer actually, the level of detail in Japanese products is astonishing
    [13:09] Bleu Oleander: yes
    [13:09] SophiaSharon Larnia: I didn't sleep well today, would anyone mind terribly if I left? Ive claimed the log
    [13:10] Eliza Madrigal: Oh, sure Sharon
    [13:10] Eliza Madrigal: of course, no worries
    [13:10] oO0Oo Resident: not at all SSL, :)
    [13:10] Eliza Madrigal: but of course we miss you :)
    [13:10] SophiaSharon Larnia: thanks, bye for now :)
    [13:10] Wol Euler: of course not, take care of yourself!
    [13:10] Bleu Oleander: sleep well Sophia
    [13:10] Wol Euler: gute besserung
    [13:10] SophiaSharon Larnia: :) see ya
    [13:10] Eliza Madrigal: bye

    [13:11] Eliza Madrigal: she said bye, but qt poofed...
    [13:11] Wol Euler: heheh
    [13:11] Wol Euler: teamwork
    [13:11] Eliza Madrigal: :)
    [13:11] Eliza Madrigal: entanglement...hah..
    [13:11] Wol Euler: or ... perhaps ... are they really one RL person?
    [13:11] oO0Oo Resident: quantum soperfluids
    [13:11] Eliza Madrigal: Oh, there you are Qt
    [13:11] Wol Euler raises an eyebrow.
    [13:11] Eliza Madrigal giggles
    [13:11] oO0Oo Resident: *super
    [13:11] Eliza Madrigal: quantum noodles
    [13:12] oO0Oo Resident raises an eyebrow in heels
    [13:12] Wol Euler: wb qt
    [13:12] Eliza Madrigal: :))
    [13:12] Qt Core: (change of viewer ;-)

    [13:12] oO0Oo Resident: Firestorm is out of Beta and supposedly includes most of phoenix's features now..
    [13:12] Archmage Atlantis: Someday we shall see truth of which all things are composed, ......someday we will understand the fundementals of what composes a molecule
    [13:13] Eliza Madrigal: what are the benefits of firestorm?
    [13:13] Archmage Atlantis: Of course, I may have missed a few decades...things here are hazy
    [13:14] Archmage Atlantis: Answer not clear....ask later
    [13:14] Wol Euler: main benefit is that it can render mesh :)
    [13:14] oO0Oo Resident: I think implementing the newer aspects of SL viewer.. like mesh etc..
    [13:14] Wol Euler: other than that, it's pretty much just an update to phoenix
    [13:14] Eliza Madrigal: oh, so I would see the cat avie
    [13:14] Wol Euler: right
    [13:15] Bleu Oleander: I like V3
    [13:16] Qt Core: it's not bad... it crashed only oce, 5 min ago ;-)

    [13:18] Eliza Madrigal: hard to be here today when we might be skating... getting antsy...
    [13:18] Wol Euler grins
    [13:18] Archmage Atlantis: Then go skating, dear one.........the soul guide us
    [13:18] Eliza Madrigal: :))
    [13:19] Eliza Madrigal: yes, may do so... was getting a peek at the wonderful projects
    [13:19] Bleu Oleander: :))
    [13:19] Eliza Madrigal: stirring inspiration
    [13:19] Bleu Oleander: some great projects already!

    [13:19] Eliza Madrigal: Or we could talk about the theme...
    [13:19] Eliza Madrigal: ?
    [13:19] Bleu Oleander: reflections
    [13:20] Eliza Madrigal: what comes to mind I guess is memories
    [13:20] Archmage Atlantis: There is a song that keeps coming around on the jukebox in my mind
    [13:20] Archmage Atlantis: It is an old spirtual
    [13:21] Archmage Atlantis: Odetta sang it, for any who may remember Odetta
    [13:21] Archmage Atlantis: And no
    [13:21] Archmage Atlantis: it is not Amazing Grace
    [13:21] Wol Euler smiles.
    [13:21] Archmage Atlantis: It is Auction Block
    [13:22] Archmage Atlantis: About being sold
    [13:22] Archmage Atlantis: At that time it was sold as a slave
    [13:22] Archmage Atlantis: But slavery evolves
    [13:22] Eliza Madrigal: repackages?
    [13:22] Wol Euler: rebranding
    [13:22] Archmage Atlantis: Our planet is, imho, on the auction block
    [13:22] Eliza Madrigal: yup
    [13:23] Eliza Madrigal: oh
    [13:24] Eliza Madrigal: ty....not able to sit still...hehe...
    [13:24] Eliza Madrigal: (((( ))))
    [13:24] Wol Euler: it seems san also has skates :)
    [13:24] Bleu Oleander: hehe
    [13:24] Wol Euler: hello san, ari
    [13:24] Bleu Oleander: yay!
    [13:25] oO0Oo Resident: what happens if you onigokko with skates on?
    [13:25] Wol Euler: only one way to find out ...
    [13:25] Eliza Madrigal: nice project Santoshima
    [13:25] Bleu Oleander: hi San
    [13:25] Eliza Madrigal: Hi Ari
    [13:25] Santoshima Resident: ty
    [13:25] Santoshima Resident: hi all
    [13:25] Qt Core: Hi San, Ari
    [13:25] Bleu Oleander: hi Ari
    [13:26] Wol Euler: onigokko
    [13:26] Bleu Oleander: ha!
    [13:26] Bleu Oleander: music to skate by
    [13:26] Wol Euler: oh boo, it overrides the skating
    [13:26] Eliza Madrigal: now we know :)
    [13:26] Wol Euler: heheh
    [13:26] Wol Euler: oh, sam has very fancy skates!
    [13:27] Eliza Madrigal: jazzy
    [13:27] Santoshima Resident: stylish!
    [13:27] oO0Oo Resident giggles
    [13:27] oO0Oo Resident: OMG!!
    [13:27] Eliza Madrigal: um
    [13:27] Eliza Madrigal: stop

    [13:27] Archmage Atlantis: Actually, I did not know I still had this animation.........anyone have the lollipop league\
    [13:27] Eliza Madrigal runs....haha
    [13:27] Wol Euler: wow those are amazing, sam
    [13:28] Eliza Madrigal: Hi Be
    [13:28] Santoshima Resident: { would someone send me that .... delete in a cleaning fit ... }
    [13:28] Arisia Vita: welcome Be
    [13:28] Wol Euler: hello be, nice ot see you again
    [13:28] Be Ewing: All - Greetings :)
    [13:28] Archmage Atlantis: lolli
    [13:28] oO0Oo Resident: Hi Arisia, Hi be
    [13:29] Santoshima Resident: hi sam
    [13:29] Bleu Oleander: hi Be
    [13:29] Santoshima Resident: hi be

    [13:29] Bleu Oleander: gonna go practice my twirls :)

    [13:29] Be Ewing: Bleu - Greetings :)
    [13:30] Wol Euler: :)
    [13:30] Wol Euler: have fun, bleu
    [13:30] Archmage Atlantis: Farewell spectral presence
    [13:34] Archmage Atlantis: Every pet chain in the US has koi now......many have butterfly koi
    [13:35] oO0Oo Resident ponders "pet chain"
    [13:35] Archmage Atlantis: Not sure where this thought is goind
    [13:35] Archmage Atlantis: *going
    [13:35] Wol Euler: something about how the exotic becomes common?
    [13:36] Archmage Atlantis: pet chain = mass marketing of pets
    [13:36] Archmage Atlantis: and pet supplies
    [13:38] Wol Euler: a huge business, they tell us

    [13:38] Santoshima Resident: seen the film: Earthlings?
    [13:39] Wol Euler: no, what's it about?
    [13:39] Santoshima Resident: have a look
    [13:39] Santoshima Resident: it's about how humans treat animals
    [13:39] Santoshima Resident: including the "pet" industry
    [13:39] Santoshima Resident: food
    [13:39] Archmage Atlantis: I would disagree, San
    [13:39] Santoshima Resident: "entertaniment
    [13:39] Santoshima Resident: disagree with what arch?
    [13:40] Archmage Atlantis: It is about how animals, who we are as humans, treat other animals
    [13:40] Santoshima Resident: indeed
    [13:40] Santoshima Resident: that's not disagreeing arch
    [13:40] Archmage Atlantis: ok

    [13:41] Santoshima Resident: it's on youtube
    [13:41] Santoshima Resident: and worth taking the 90 minutes to watch

    [13:43] Archmage Atlantis: Perhaps QT could lighen the mood....or if Ari were still here?
    [13:43] Santoshima Resident: bye, enjoy yourselves
    [13:43] Arisia Vita: I am here
    [13:44] Wol Euler: bye san, take care
    [13:44] Archmage Atlantis: A rose is the product of a plant family that also produces blackberries, and thorns.
    [13:45] Archmage Atlantis: ding
    [13:49] Wol Euler: well, I never knew that
    [13:49] Wol Euler: wonder why roses produce no fruit, then ...
    [13:49] Archmage Atlantis: they do, Wol
    [13:49] Archmage Atlantis: Rose Hips
    [13:49] Wol Euler: ?
    [13:49] oO0Oo Resident: Rose hips
    [13:49] Wol Euler: ah
    [13:50] Wol Euler: hmmmm
    [13:52] Wol Euler has to admit that she doesn't know what they are.
    [13:53] Wol Euler: phone ...
    [13:53] oO0Oo Resident: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rose_hip
    [13:53] oO0Oo Resident: wb be
    [13:54] Be Ewing: thx
    [13:54] Archmage Atlantis: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rose_hip
    [13:54] oO0Oo Resident: snap
    [13:54] Archmage Atlantis: ty sam
    [13:54] Anastasia Genesis: Hi!
    [13:55] oO0Oo Resident: Hi Anastasia
    [13:55] Be Ewing: Anastasia - Greetings :)
    [13:55] Qt Core: I have to go, bye all
    [13:55] Archmage Atlantis: In the beginning.......Genesis is a bold claim to a name
    [13:55] oO0Oo Resident: Take care Qt :)
    [13:55] Anastasia Genesis: bye Qt
    [13:56] Anastasia Genesis: we all had a beginning didnt we
    [13:56] Be Ewing: Take care Qt::)

    [13:56] oO0Oo Resident: Anastasia, Have you been to Play as Being before?
    [13:57] Anastasia Genesis: yes some months back now
    [13:57] Archmage Atlantis: Perhaps, for me the data is neither supportive or rejecting of that Anastasia
    [13:57] Anastasia Genesis: ok
    [13:57] oO0Oo Resident: OK, so you will know that our conversations are recorded and transcribed to a public wiki?
    [13:57] Anastasia Genesis: yes i do
    [13:57] oO0Oo Resident: OK ty
    [13:59] Archmage Atlantis: You present your arguemen, you place your bet, now. Anas?
    [13:59] Be Ewing: ?
    [13:59] Be Ewing: I don't understand your question Arch
    [13:59] Anastasia Genesis: i dont bet Arch
    [13:59] Anastasia Genesis: i dont gamble
    [13:59] Archmage Atlantis: Be, it is the though of being with the pharoahs

    [14:01] Be Ewing: OK -- so one of you has last name of Genesis -- and other Atlantis
    [14:01] Anastasia Genesis: are you linking my name to the pharoes Arch?
    [14:02] Anastasia Genesis: sounds like an honor to me
    [14:02] Be Ewing: and somehow this brings up being with the pharoahs?
    [14:02] Archmage Atlantis: I am linking your name, as I have linked mine

    [14:02] Be Ewing: Anastasia -- I am greatly honored by your presence :) ... as well as each other's here ;)
    [14:02] Archmage Atlantis: to first of us
    [14:02] Anastasia Genesis: how does my name link to the pharoes?
    [14:02] Anastasia Genesis: thaks Be!
    [14:03] Be Ewing: Namaste
    [14:03] Archmage Atlantis: Blessings
    [14:04] Arisia Vita: I need to run to another meeting my friends, be well and happy till we meet again, which will be soon I hope.
    [14:04] Wol Euler: back
    [14:04] Archmage Atlantis: That there are protoypes in thought......best I can see, that is a given........do you agree Ana?
    [14:04] Wol Euler: sorry about that, holiday planning
    [14:04] Wol Euler: hello ana, bye ari
    [14:04] Arisia Vita: bye for now
    [14:05] Anastasia Genesis: Hi Wol!
    [14:05] Anastasia Genesis: cant really understand what u mean Arch?
    [14:05] oO0Oo Resident: Bye Arisia
    [14:05] Wol Euler: nice to see you again :)
    [14:05] Anastasia Genesis: do u mean stereotypes or archetypes?
    [14:05] Anastasia Genesis: bye Arisia
    [14:05] Archmage Atlantis: u kids may need to go
    [14:05] Archmage Atlantis: this may not be polite
    [14:06] Anastasia Genesis: nice to see you again too Wol :)
    [14:06] Be Ewing: Arch - what kids?
    [14:07] Anastasia Genesis: aint no kids around here r there?
    [14:07] Archmage Atlantis: The sprits of those who are amoung us
    [14:07] Archmage Atlantis: who need protection
    [14:07] Be Ewing: I am usually very good at following incoherent thoughts
    [14:07] Be Ewing: but even I am tad challenged at this minute :)
    [14:08] Be Ewing: Arch -- so you feel spirits of kids that angels cannot protect right now?
    [14:08] Archmage Atlantis: Yes/
    [14:08] Be Ewing: ah
    [14:08] Be Ewing: okay
    [14:08] Archmage Atlantis: For they themselves must learn to protect
    [14:08] Be Ewing: The angels?
    [14:09] Archmage Atlantis: There are elements bigger than we are
    [14:09] Be Ewing: but that is what Guardian Angels are for
    [14:09] Archmage Atlantis: We will stand amound them
    [14:09] Archmage Atlantis: For they need us

    [14:09] oO0Oo Resident: I know I can be quite non-sequitur at times, and hopeful with metaphorical communication. One aspect is following up to feedback when others don't understand, or.. just caring if others are on the same page, or in the same place/topic sometimes.

    [14:10] Be Ewing: so why did you request that they leave -- the kids that is?
    [14:10] Archmage Atlantis: Sam and Wol have chosen to stay
    [14:10] Be Ewing: ok
    [14:10] Archmage Atlantis: That answers the metaphysical question
    [14:10] Be Ewing: this is intriguing to me right now
    [14:11] oO0Oo Resident: maybe a subset of caring about others in a sense

    [14:11] Anastasia Genesis: has my arrival affected the dynamics Arch cos I am totally lost now?
    [14:11] Be Ewing: I guess I am not understanding because I don't sense spirits have age
    [14:12] Archmage Atlantis: Yes, Ana
    [14:12] Archmage Atlantis: OIt did
    [14:12] Be Ewing: and a "kid" implies young age to me
    [14:12] Archmage Atlantis: And it is a good thing
    [14:12] Archmage Atlantis: to question is to see more
    [14:12] Archmage Atlantis: human words are very limiting

    [14:12] oO0Oo Resident: is that your personal experience Arch?
    [14:12] Be Ewing: the idea of asking "kid" spirits to leave for me does not match my perception of spirits at all

    [14:13] Anastasia Genesis: so do you mean others should leave because I arrived here Arch?
    [14:13] Anastasia Genesis: or should I leave?
    [14:14] Anastasia Genesis: and what is it you read in me then?
    [14:14] Wol Euler: I assumed he was humorously implying that the conversation was about to turn seriuos :)
    [14:14] Archmage Atlantis: To say a child is not ready.....that is wrong....to say a child is ready....l.that is also wrong......to support a child to speak, that is the best I have at the momen
    [14:16] Be Ewing: Arch -- it is very simple
    [14:16] Be Ewing: just let children be
    [14:16] Be Ewing: they can make their own choices very well
    [14:16] Wol Euler: hello korel
    [14:16] Be Ewing: Arch -- it is very simple [14:16] Be: just let children be
    [14:17] Archmage Atlantis: So if a child is inclined to be a serial killer, Be, I should let that be?
    [14:17] Be Ewing: good question
    [14:17] Korel Laloix: Heya
    [14:17] Be Ewing: Korel -- Hi :)
    [14:18] Anastasia Genesis: Hi Korel!
    [14:18] oO0Oo Resident: Hi everybody!!! :D :D :D

    [14:18] Be Ewing: that child should still be loved though committing harm/hurt toward others -- at least the way we human beings perceive harm
    [14:18] Be Ewing: and by surrounding with loving space
    [14:18] Be Ewing: might not kill anymore possibly
    [14:19] Be Ewing: but such most probably should be contained on Planet Earth
    [14:19] Be Ewing: so as not to perpetuate "horrors"
    [14:19] Be Ewing: killing a killer accomplishes nothing
    [14:20] Be Ewing: except to perpetutate killing and violence
    [14:20] Anastasia Genesis: very true Be!

    [14:21] Be Ewing: I personally do not believe in "death"
    [14:21] Be Ewing: just transition
    [14:21] Be Ewing: so the way I look at things might be somewhat different than many others
    [14:22] Korel Laloix: But you beliive in transitioning a killer?
    [14:22] Archmage Atlantis: This day, I bought Badia Virgin Cold Press Olive Oil from a disount store
    [14:22] Korel Laloix: SOunds lovely.
    [14:22] Archmage Atlantis: It has lots of flavor
    [14:23] Archmage Atlantis: it is, Korel
    [14:23] Archmage Atlantis: Sometiime I do understand how holding to what was has value

    [14:24] oO0Oo Resident considers capacities, clarity, choice.. in every moment in an endless set of moments
    [14:24] Be Ewing: Korel -- good question
    [14:24] Archmage Atlantis: The I hear the call of what is in the future
    [14:24] Be Ewing: I transition spiders and bugs sometimes -- essentially I send them to heaven early
    [14:25] Be Ewing: however, even in doing that I feel bad
    [14:26] Korel Laloix: I dont like the idea of exicutions in our legal system as our legal system is at its base practically racist.
    [14:26] Be Ewing: and not very just at times at all
    [14:26] Archmage Atlantis: I was host to 2 turles in the last month.....not inviting turtles in again ....still, they weren't all bad
    [14:26] Archmage Atlantis: nite
    [14:27] Korel Laloix: Cioa
    [14:27] Be Ewing: Arch -- take care and miles of smiles where you are :)
    [14:27] Wol Euler: bye arch
    [14:27] Anastasia Genesis: bye arch
    [14:27] Be Ewing: hmmm
    [14:27] Anastasia Genesis: nice seeing u all briefly bye for now!
    [14:27] Be Ewing: interesting experience
    [14:27] oO0Oo Resident: Bye Arch
    [14:27] Wol Euler: bye ana, takec are
    [14:28] Be Ewing: Anastasia -- Take care and miles of smiles :)
    [14:28] oO0Oo Resident: By Anastasia

    [14:28] Be Ewing: Do we just stop at a designated time?
    [14:28] Be Ewing: Or just when the last person leaves?
    [14:28] Wol Euler: when the last person leaves :)
    [14:28] Wol Euler: the record is over seven hours
    [14:28] Be Ewing: ah
    [14:29] Wol Euler: (ran straight into the next meeting)
    [14:29] oO0Oo Resident: I'm going to leave during the next 90 second pause, but wanted to say thanks for people's presence and journey into all kinds of unknowns. :)
    [14:29] Be Ewing: Sam -- likewise here :)
    [14:29] Be Ewing: these sessions vary tremendously from one to the other
    [14:30] Wol Euler: ((bye sam, take care))
    [14:30] Be Ewing: (Sam -- I am breaking silence :) ... Take care and miles of smiles to you too :) )
    [14:31] oO0Oo Resident: 〜waves〜
    [14:31] oO0Oo Resident: ☻/
    [14:31] oO0Oo Resident: /▌
    [14:31] oO0Oo Resident: / \
    [14:31] oO0Oo Resident: ty
    [14:31] Be Ewing: :)
    [14:32] Wol Euler: and then there were three
    [14:32] Wol Euler smiles.
    [14:32] Korel Laloix: And I am not not all here...
    [14:32] Korel Laloix: So maybe two and a half... smiles
    [14:33] Wol Euler grins
    [14:33] Wol Euler: well, perhaps this is a point at which we could end.
    [14:33] Korel Laloix: OK..
    [14:33] Be Ewing: let's do
    [14:33] Wol Euler: I am really tired
    [14:33] Korel Laloix: Then take care all.
    [14:33] Be Ewing: much to do elsewhere :)
    [14:33] Wol Euler: thank you ;(
    [14:33] Wol Euler: it was great to see you again, be
    [14:34] Wol Euler: take care, enjoy the rest of the day
    [14:34] Be Ewing: Korel and Wol -- Take care and miles of smiles :)

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