The Guardian for this meeting was Riddle Sideways. The comments are by Riddle Sideways who claimed it for nobody. People came late, but steady for two hours.
Riddle Sideways: Hi Multi
Multiverse1 Resident: Hi riddle
Riddle Sideways: wonder where everybody else is?
Multiverse1 Resident: elsewhere
Multiverse1 Resident: why have there been many here of late?
Riddle Sideways: hmmmm, not knowing that answer
Multiverse1 Resident: the fish are here now
Riddle Sideways: nice fishies
Multiverse1 Resident: yes, they have gathered
Riddle Sideways: and a menoriah with the 5 candles for today
a favorite subject from simulation/agent modeling days
Multiverse1 Resident: I have read of school mentality. As the fish and birds use. It seems they have no leader in thee direction of the herd, each makes it's independant decision, then the next, and soforth
Riddle Sideways: swarming
Riddle Sideways: yes studyed that a lot years ago
Multiverse1 Resident: not these fish of course
Riddle Sideways: wrote some software to do that
Riddle Sideways: for AlphaWorld flocks
Multiverse1 Resident: yes, Also read a book similar, forget the author, but I shall refresh. Turtles Termites and Traffic jams, was the title
Riddle Sideways: Hi Mick
Multiverse1 Resident: Hi Mick
--BELL--
Riddle Sideways: whose session is this?
Mickorod Renard: hello
Multiverse1 Resident:
"Turtles, Termites, and Traffic Jams, Explorations in Massively Parallel Microworlds" Mitchel Resnick
How does a bird flock keep its movements so graceful and synchronized? Most people assume that the bird in front leads and the others follow. In fact, bird flocks don't have leaders: they are organized without an organizer, coordinated without a coordinator. And a surprising number of other systems, from termite colonies to traffic jams to economic systems, work the same decentralized way. Turtles, Termites, and Traffic Jams describes innovative new computational tools that can qhelp people (even young children) explore the workings of such systems—and help them move beyond the centralized mindset.
Mickorod Renard: merry christmas
Riddle Sideways: happy christmas, ya'll
Multiverse1 Resident: merry Christmas Mick
Mickorod Renard: :)
Riddle Sideways: yes, seperate instaniations of bird objects
really meant 'Boids' as in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boids
Mickorod Renard: good to chill out during a hectic day
Riddle Sideways: that control and do not control
Multiverse1 Resident: yes I feel the temperature
Multiverse1 Resident: there is ice on the pond?
Multiverse1 Resident: I'm just chillin too
Riddle Sideways: yep, not much goin on til later
Multiverse1 Resident: schools of fish flting in the air
Multiverse1 Resident: flying
Multiverse1 Resident: cept the 2 that are independant
Riddle Sideways: each fish under rules of wanting to be near, but not too near another
Mickorod Renard: I think I know what you mean
Multiverse1 Resident: protection, yet independant. Interdependant
Mickorod Renard: but they are part of an order , an archetype that has no control towards their own chaos
Multiverse1 Resident: safety in numbers maybe
Riddle Sideways: the Los Alamos group wrote some Swarm software
oh well, further research shows that it was the Santa Fe Institute
Multiverse1 Resident: different behavior pattenrs can emerge then?
Mickorod Renard: the only deviation would be from some extreme equation in quantum probabilities, then they may do anything
Mickorod Renard: perhaps,,but then I dont know
Mickorod Renard: :)
Mickorod Renard: Hi Korel
Multiverse1 Resident: the alternate occurance
Mickorod Renard: merry xmas
Multiverse1 Resident: Hi Korel
Mickorod Renard: yes, exactly Multi
Riddle Sideways: had only 4 variables so was easy to cycle thru them
Riddle Sideways: Hi Korel
Riddle Sideways: long time no see
Korel Laloix: Heya
Korel Laloix: Been busy in a silly way.
Multiverse1 Resident: silly is good
Mickorod Renard: thats a wonderful thought
Korel Laloix: Just taking a breat right now from CHristmas dinner madness.
Riddle Sideways: I been away. Out of interent
Korel Laloix: breal
Riddle Sideways: *internet
Riddle Sideways: ummm, lots of us escaping RL into SL
Multiverse1 Resident: a web world we abide within
Mickorod Renard: I am planning on a new provider,,,so soon I may be out of internet
Korel Laloix: Been silly busy, and today there are at least twenty people over here including my mother... frowns.
Mickorod Renard: wow
Multiverse1 Resident: and you had to come here to escape?
Mickorod Renard: he he ,,join the escapies
Multiverse1 Resident: to chillax perhaps
Korel Laloix: It is a way fo getting away without leaving the house.
Riddle Sideways: just spent a week with mother-in-law
Multiverse1 Resident: nice
Korel Laloix: That good or bad?
Mickorod Renard: getting away and getting together at the same time
Riddle Sideways: both :)
Riddle Sideways: they pay for everything
Multiverse1 Resident: two directions at once
Korel Laloix: I am not sure my mom has any redeaming qualities.
Multiverse1 Resident: I noticed Korel. That you are an "annoying woman "?
Mickorod Renard: Hi Pila
Riddle Sideways: Hello Pila, ... really long time no seeing
--BELL--
Korel Laloix: Well, saying Annoying Man is sort of redungent and obvious, so I have to specify up front... smiles
Pila Mulligan: greetings, Merry Christmas
Korel Laloix: redundant
Riddle Sideways: :))
Korel Laloix: OSiYo
Multiverse1 Resident: Hi Pila
Pila Mulligan: Merry Christmas (verry laggy)
Korel Laloix: So what is everyone else escaping from today>
Korel Laloix: ?
Multiverse1 Resident: Sundays in sl seem to be that way
Mickorod Renard: I am escaping pandimodium
Korel Laloix: I have some of that going on as well.. a good thing to escape from.
Multiverse1 Resident: I am escaping a the common cold I hope
Riddle Sideways: good
Korel Laloix: Good thing to leave behind for sure.
Mickorod Renard: if the kids are not gorging on chokies then the dog is on a raiding mission
Multiverse1 Resident: woke up with abody malfunction
Mickorod Renard: erk,,was it pleasant?
Korel Laloix: Body malfunction?
Riddle Sideways: that can happen in SL
Korel Laloix: SOunds... annoying.
Multiverse1 Resident: the common cold
Mickorod Renard: ahh,,there is alot of it going around at the momment
Multiverse1 Resident: it's pre-occupying my thoughts, skewing them. As your pandemonium in a way
Wol Euler: merry christmas!
Mickorod Renard: I have had various symptoms but non lasting more than a few hours
Multiverse1 Resident: business, beyond our control
Riddle Sideways: how come the 'common cold' is a little different each time
Wol Euler: just a flying visit, mom needs to have a walk :)
Mickorod Renard: Hiya Wol,,merry x mas
Pila Mulligan: and to you Wol
Riddle Sideways: High Wol
Mickorod Renard: Moms the word
Wol Euler: I wish everyone a happy and safe time, and not too much of food or conflict :)
Multiverse1 Resident: hi Wol
Riddle Sideways: like the dog... mom needs a walk ?
Korel Laloix: Failing on both really.
Pila Mulligan: :)
Multiverse1 Resident: I would walk my Mom
Multiverse1 Resident: and have my dogs
Multiverse1 Resident: they are both worth it.
Riddle Sideways: I walked the mother-in-law, but she came back each time
Mickorod Renard: :))
Mickorod Renard: grin
Multiverse1 Resident: conflict
Mickorod Renard: all mine have gone now,,to another place in the cosmos
Korel Laloix: Maybe I should try that with my mom.
Multiverse1 Resident: walking?
Mickorod Renard: walking as stardust
Riddle Sideways: Henny Youngmen jokes use to be so funny (and mostly are not now)
Korel Laloix: Looking up HY.
Riddle Sideways: prolly speelt wrong
Multiverse1 Resident: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=mbv-LcdLY-Y
Multiverse1 Resident: walking on the moon
Fox Monacular: Hello everyone
Pila Mulligan: hi Fox, Merry Christmas
Riddle Sideways: Hi Fox
Fox Monacular: Merry Christmas:)
Multiverse1 Resident: Hi Fox
Mickorod Renard: yeaaa Fox :))
Fox Monacular: :))
Riddle Sideways: Later, will be going to a Chanukah party that will prolly turn into an xmas party
Riddle Sideways: Hi Ara
Pila Mulligan: :) holidays for everyone
Pila Mulligan: hi Ara, Merry Christmas
Multiverse1 Resident: A Muti-party
Riddle Sideways: why do most av land on Mick?
Mickorod Renard: Hi Ara
arabella Ella: Hiya everyone!
Multiverse1 Resident: the magik seat
arabella Ella: and Merry Christmas to all of you! x x x
Mickorod Renard: merry Xmas to you too Ara
Fox Monacular: Hey Ara!
Riddle Sideways: what presents did ya'll get?
arabella Ella: Hey Fox, Pila, Riddle, Korel!
arabella Ella: lovely to see you all again!
arabella Ella: and Mick too of course also for the soft landing!
Pila Mulligan: nice to seeyou, Ara
Mickorod Renard: :)
arabella Ella: Hiya Mick!
--BELL--
arabella Ella: lag!
Riddle Sideways: was reading the chat log for the "fun" email ref, but without photos can't imagine what is going on
Here is great exercise, look at your "my Friends" list
Mickorod Renard: I was thinking earlier, that we dont often think of those Avi persons that have drifted away,,some perhaps due to ill health etc,,we should perhaps try and remember them and send our thoughts to them during next break
Multiverse1 Resident: good thoughts of past memories
Riddle Sideways: good thought
arabella Ella: great idea Mick!
Riddle Sideways: ah, the friends list has so many
Riddle Sideways: miss them all
Riddle Sideways: like Lisa just logged in, but not here
Mickorod Renard: yes, there have been many and some that had contributed lots too
Riddle Sideways: Feal and Gaya
Riddle Sideways: Adelene
Pila Mulligan: nothing is permanent, but fond memories persist :)
arabella Ella: There was Scath and a person in Australia too the name escapes me
Riddle Sideways: Sun
Riddle Sideways: solobill
Mickorod Renard: I think the aussie one was at ens art show a few week ago
Mickorod Renard: zens
Pila Mulligan: Tarmel, Ara
arabella Ella: oh yes Tarmel
Riddle Sideways: yes, Tarmel
Pila Mulligan: :)
Mickorod Renard: yes,,Ara was missing too :)) for a while
Multiverse1 Resident: the crossroads
Riddle Sideways: Threedee
Riddle Sideways: Fredrick
Riddle Sideways: Not chatted with Pema in long time
arabella Ella: oh yes has Pema been around much lately?
Mickorod Renard: or stim
Multiverse1 Resident: hosted here this past week , I believe
Fox Monacular: actually I talked to him yesterday at 7pm Pab:)
Pila Mulligan: :)
arabella Ella: ah cool!
Fox Monacular: a christmas eve treat
Mickorod Renard: Pema?
Riddle Sideways: ah
Fox Monacular: yes
Multiverse1 Resident: missed the occurance
Riddle Sideways: stim is at the Pub some 4pms
Mickorod Renard: is that so?
Pila Mulligan: ahh, nice
arabella Ella: i havent seen stim in ages!
arabella Ella: or Pema
arabella Ella: has Lugh been around at all?
Mickorod Renard: not seen Lugh
Mickorod Renard: Lia too..not seen
arabella Ella: the thing is some people may tend to change identity
Mickorod Renard: thats a good point
arabella Ella: identity is so fluid here on SL
Riddle Sideways: like Mila
arabella Ella: never fixed
Multiverse1 Resident: never broken
Riddle Sideways: never
Multiverse1 Resident: identity
Mickorod Renard: but I suspect that there is a core here that are known avi's
Riddle Sideways: ah, Qt Core
Pila Mulligan: :)
Multiverse1 Resident: obserberm strikes me as an alternate to another that may come here.
Multiverse1 Resident: observerm
Mickorod Renard: I have seen QT recently
Riddle Sideways: thinks so too
--BELL--
Mickorod Renard: one often dismisses the absent avi's as perhaps attending at other times,,but I suspect that is not the case
Multiverse1 Resident: I would have to agree
Multiverse1 Resident: the behavior of that sort would serve little purpose
Multiverse1 Resident: I would assume if one did that, there would be an intended purpose for it.
Multiverse1 Resident: I read of a PaB project like that acually
Mickorod Renard: yes, I know of the case , like for eg Storm now lives in another time zone
Multiverse1 Resident: to assume an avi of a different sort
Multiverse1 Resident: roleplaying seems to be pervasive in sl also.
arabella Ella: also?
Multiverse1 Resident: well as compared to rl
arabella Ella: ah ok
Multiverse1 Resident: it's easier to assume a new identity
Riddle Sideways: not sure... seems to be all about role playing (except here in PaB:)
Multiverse1 Resident: plastic surgery in a bottle, or my inventory
Multiverse1 Resident: some areas encourage it, and others not
Multiverse1 Resident: I've thought of trying it , but have not as yet
Riddle Sideways: welcome Aph
Multiverse1 Resident: hi Aph
Pila Mulligan: hiAph, Merry Christmas
Fox Monacular: Hey Aph!
Aphrodite Macbain: Hello everyone. How nice to see so many heare!
Aphrodite Macbain: Here
Mickorod Renard: Hi Aph,,merry xmas
Multiverse1 Resident: here here
Multiverse1 Resident: hear?
arabella Ella: Hiya Aph Merry Christmas!
Aphrodite Macbain: arabella- it's been ages
Aphrodite Macbain: great to see you
arabella Ella: yes it has ... I am back!
arabella Ella: great to c u too!
Aphrodite Macbain: I'm taking a break from cooking. The duck is now roasting away
Aphrodite Macbain: and the salad is ready and the place is somewhat clean and tidy
Korel Laloix: OK.. back to being social...smiles
Pila Mulligan: bye Korel
Aphrodite Macbain: Kore- how is everything today?
Multiverse1 Resident: have fun
Riddle Sideways: bye Korel
Korel Laloix: Danistayohihv Alu Aliheli'sdi Itse Udetiyvasadisv
arabella Ella: eh?
Aphrodite Macbain: Same to you Korel!
Pila Mulligan: Mele Kalikimaka
Mickorod Renard: bye Korel
Aphrodite Macbain: auguri
Aphrodite Macbain: arabella- what do you mean you're back?
arabella Ella: auguri lilek ukoll Aph!
arabella Ella: I mean ... i disappeared for a few months and i am back online
Multiverse1 Resident: sounds like a web connection
arabella Ella: at PaB
Aphrodite Macbain: great. does that mean your rl has changed too?
arabella Ella: there are always changes!
Riddle Sideways: :)
arabella Ella: some good some bad as life throws unexpected surprises at us at times
Multiverse1 Resident: I Ching
arabella Ella: :)
Aphrodite Macbain: How ae you Riddle, Fox and Pila?
Fox Monacular: good, thanks, Aph:) busy and tired, but nice:)
Aphrodite Macbain: I hope you don't mind my fishy friends
arabella Ella: i am just cooking bread pudding Aph
Aphrodite Macbain: ooo. how do YOU make it?
Pila Mulligan: fine thnaks Aph
Fox Monacular: my in-laws are playing in the backyard with my daughter;)
Aphrodite Macbain: aww
arabella Ella: it is easy!
Fox Monacular: lots of snow for christmas!
Aphrodite Macbain: hpw old is she?
--BELL--
Aphrodite Macbain: no snow in Vancouver- just rain
arabella Ella: bread cut into slices soaked in milk and loads of currants, sultanas, cherries almonds and eggs to bind it all together
arabella Ella: (not slices but cubes)
Aphrodite Macbain: nods
Aphrodite Macbain: rum?
arabella Ella: brandy
Mickorod Renard: I think we call that bread and butter pudding
Aphrodite Macbain: nods.
arabella Ella: similar but different Mick
Pila Mulligan: what does a quantum duck say?
Aphrodite Macbain: in france they call it pooodING
Mickorod Renard: we as in in my house
Riddle Sideways: Quark
Multiverse1 Resident: quirk
Pila Mulligan: :)
Aphrodite Macbain: quick
Mickorod Renard: dont want to get drawn into some debate
arabella Ella: LOL
Aphrodite Macbain: :-}
Mickorod Renard: :))
arabella Ella: for bread and butter pudding it is slices of bread with butter and sultanas etc
Aphrodite Macbain: I should go and baste.
arabella Ella: for bread pudding it is more of a mix bread cut into tiny cubes
arabella Ella: and no butter
Riddle Sideways: and more brandy for the cook
Aphrodite Macbain: Bye
Aphrodite Macbain: Bye! everyone. It was good to see your faces
Multiverse1 Resident: bread and butter duck for me
arabella Ella: oh yes always brandy for the cook
Pila Mulligan: bye APh
arabella Ella: bye Apr lovely to see you!
Multiverse1 Resident: and sherry
Multiverse1 Resident: have to get a duck for new years now
Multiverse1 Resident: a craving has been instilled
Multiverse1 Resident: I can see it being basted now
Multiverse1 Resident: and the aroma
Multiverse1 Resident: mmmm
Riddle Sideways: wb mick
Riddle Sideways: you poofed
Pila Mulligan: wb Mick
Mickorod Renard: ty
Mickorod Renard: I didnt push my charge lead in fully
Multiverse1 Resident: I've done it before
Multiverse1 Resident: temporary frustration at my stupidity
Multiverse1 Resident: but a simple fix
Mickorod Renard: yes, my fault but like you say,,simple fix
Mickorod Renard: nice Avi Fox
Multiverse1 Resident: energy rectification
Fox Monacular: :)
Fox Monacular: WYSIWYG
Fox Monacular: foz
Fox Monacular: fox
Riddle Sideways: if only that were true of others too
Riddle Sideways: can not seem to make an av that looks like a riddle
arabella Ella: a fiddle may be next best?
Multiverse1 Resident: the batman version of the riddler in sl perhaps?
Riddle Sideways: got called riddler too many times during youth
Multiverse1 Resident: a menacing thought
Multiverse1 Resident: are you full of riddles then?
Riddle Sideways: use to be
Multiverse1 Resident: Ms. Sideways
Riddle Sideways: short term memory lose turns into long term lose
Multiverse1 Resident: riddle me this, comes to mind
Multiverse1 Resident: the riddle of life
Mickorod Renard: I was thinking about short term mem loss
arabella Ella: and to my mind ... fiddler ... riddler on the roof
Mickorod Renard: I sort of dont bother remembering anything now
Multiverse1 Resident: and how short can it be?
arabella Ella: just enjoy the moment and enjoy what you remember without bothering about what you may have forgotten
arabella Ella: oh we lost Pila!
Riddle Sideways: ah yes
Riddle Sideways: poof
--BELL--
Multiverse1 Resident: Can you remember every increment in your entire life?
arabella Ella: dont want to!
Mickorod Renard: well,,thats the point,,what is important enough to take up hard drive space in the body
Multiverse1 Resident: bingo
Fox Monacular: i cant remember anything:)
Multiverse1 Resident: we each have our own filing systems
arabella Ella: and filtering system too
Multiverse1 Resident: yes
Riddle Sideways: wb Pila
Pila Mulligan: thanks
arabella Ella: wb Pila!
Multiverse1 Resident: relevance and importance and relationships to other memories.
Pila Mulligan: :)
Mickorod Renard: wb pIla
arabella Ella: memories are like beliefs they are like a web as they ll hang together
Multiverse1 Resident: and retrieval.
arabella Ella: *all
Mickorod Renard: I am saving my space for processing now
Multiverse1 Resident: what is the short term to someone who arranges via importance?
arabella Ella: i dunno
Multiverse1 Resident: there is no length
Mickorod Renard: I seem to have led several lifetimes already, I am getting lost in memories
Riddle Sideways: remembering Doug
arabella Ella: oh yes Doug!
arabella Ella: and what was the name of the lay franciscan?
arabella Ella: Geo?
Riddle Sideways: wb Multi
Fox Monacular: in phenomenology, memories (retentions) exist simultaneously and change in relation to the present
arabella Ella: that sounds lovely Fox thanks!
Multiverse1 Resident: pixelated
Mickorod Renard: Geo yews
Fox Monacular: so they are like fields
Fox Monacular: densities
Multiverse1 Resident: wavelengths?
Fox Monacular: I heard a podcast by Alan Wallace, where he said that "it is never too late to have a happy childhood":) in relation to memory and quantum physics:))
Pila Mulligan: :)
Pila Mulligan: sounds like fun
Multiverse1 Resident: is true, the mutiverse
arabella Ella: please say more Fox
Pila Mulligan: quark
arabella Ella: need to understand more
Mickorod Renard: I am intrigues
Fox Monacular: I think it is about how the past is being constantly restructured and re-thought of as a function od present
Fox Monacular: so you today are not the same as you yesterday
arabella Ella: nice!
Fox Monacular: and so you can look at yourself in the past differently
Multiverse1 Resident: as in Buddhism or Hinduism.
Multiverse1 Resident: liufetymes
Fox Monacular: (there is a way to demystify this too:)
Multiverse1 Resident: lifetimes
Mickorod Renard: demytify me one day
Multiverse1 Resident: stardust
Pila Mulligan: Fox?
arabella Ella: how Fox?
Fox Monacular: like you have a direct relation to your own past
Fox Monacular: and it is not fixed
Pila Mulligan: the sum of your expereince is dynamic?
Multiverse1 Resident: but not broken
Fox Monacular: yes, dynamic and affective
arabella Ella: i really like this way of looking at things!
Pila Mulligan: sound slike cooking to me
Fox Monacular: cooking:)?
Multiverse1 Resident: a recipe
Pila Mulligan: dynamic recipes
Fox Monacular: aha!
Mickorod Renard: I suspect this is quantum mechanics again,,any change must also have a direct effect on another too?
Multiverse1 Resident: is also macromechanics
Fox Monacular: perhaps , yes
Mickorod Renard: mn's?
Fox Monacular: I don't understand quantum mechanics very well, but I like the idea that past is not fixed but rather subjective memry retentions brought up by the present
Fox Monacular: so there are ways to live and relive it differently
Multiverse1 Resident: the zero'th law of thermodynamics
Riddle Sideways: the reliving of shristmas past
Mickorod Renard: he he
Multiverse1 Resident: movement from one source to another
arabella Ella: i gues it has its advantages and disadvantages right?
Riddle Sideways: morphing all the way
Multiverse1 Resident: communication for example
arabella Ella: after an event one may tend to retain either good memories or bad ones depending on whatever?
Multiverse1 Resident: the observation
Mickorod Renard: I bet there must be link to getting stuck with attachments too
Mickorod Renard: let go of the loop and redifine ones past
Multiverse1 Resident: we have our attachments, all of us.
Multiverse1 Resident: when is the past?
Multiverse1 Resident: whoops it's gone already!
Riddle Sideways: like wol
Multiverse1 Resident: poof
Mickorod Renard: now then ,,I have to go now,,still have guests here
Pila Mulligan: well, I must be going now too -- nice to see you Riddle, Multi, Fox, Mick and Ara -- Merry Christmas and Happy New Year
arabella Ella: got to go too!
Fox Monacular: I will have to go too:) at in laws' house:)
--BELL--
Riddle Sideways: thanks all
Fox Monacular: Happy holidays everyone!
arabella Ella: good night everyone and for those of you who may ... enjoy the spirit of the season! X
Multiverse1 Resident: by mick, me to, bye pila, fox and ara,and Riddle.
Mickorod Renard: goodbye good friends,,take care xxx
Riddle Sideways: Hippy Holidays to ya'll
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