2013.12.16 19:00 - A little chat

The Guardian for this meeting was Catrinamonblue Resident. The comments are by Catrinamonblue Resident.

Catrinamonblue Resident: 's current display-name is "Catrinamonblue".
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Daedalus687 Resident: 's current display-name is "Daedalus687".
Daedalus687 Resident: Hi there
Catrinamonblue Resident: hello Daedalus :)
Catrinamonblue Resident: lovely to have company this snowy evening
Daedalus687 Resident: Indeed
Daedalus687 Resident: I like the snow here, its fun
Catrinamonblue Resident: smiles
Catrinamonblue Resident: yes so do I :)
Daedalus687 Resident: What brings you here?
Catrinamonblue Resident: tonight was just a chance to get away and sit quietly and think :)
Daedalus687 Resident: Nice
Catrinamonblue Resident: I don't have much time for SL these days
Daedalus687 Resident: I hear that there isn't much time alot from people often
Catrinamonblue Resident: yes :) life has a way of happening along with or without us :)
Daedalus687 Resident: Yea...I'd like to think I'm integral to the process, yet

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Catrinamonblue Resident: laughs, we like to think we control where we are going but I think that we do not :), we are driven along by the universe like a leaf in a storm :)

Daedalus687 Resident: So, how long have you known this space?
Daedalus687 Resident: by this I mean play as being I think
Catrinamonblue Resident: a bit over a year now I think, I have lost track of exactly when :)
Daedalus687 Resident: What drew you here?
Catrinamonblue Resident: my story is unusual for PaB as well as for SL, I came to both following my then husband who had an online affair, I was trying to save the marriage.
Catrinamonblue Resident: but you can't save what never was I have learned the hard way, life doesn't accept it.
Daedalus687 Resident: I would say I'm sorry to hear it, yet I have a notion you have accepted.
Catrinamonblue Resident: but life has a way of giving you good after bad
Catrinamonblue Resident: yes I have accepted what happened :)
Catrinamonblue Resident: needed to go through it, to grow and learn
Daedalus687 Resident: I can not know exactly your understanding of it, so I welcome your understanding.
Daedalus687 Resident: But, theres interesting stuff to jive about otherwise
Catrinamonblue Resident: life gives us experiences in order to push our understanding of who we are and where we are going (just my thoughts on the matter)
Catrinamonblue Resident: it's never easy but there are always happy spots to be found :)

Daedalus687 Resident: What are your interests Catrinamonblue?
Catrinamonblue Resident: love life and happiness :) I'm a poet at heart and a bookkeeper by trade :)
Catrinamonblue Resident: I like to dance and play and be, just me :)
Daedalus687 Resident: I found this place from reading a book called TSK, have you kept this book before?
Hana Furlough: 's current display-name is "Hana".
Catrinamonblue Resident: it's far above my head, I'm just a simple person, never thinking much more than beyond this moment in time

Catrinamonblue Resident: hello Hana :)
Daedalus687 Resident: Hi there
Hana Furlough: Hi Cat and Dae
Catrinamonblue Resident: it's been a long time since I have seen you Hana :)
Hana Furlough: yeah!
Hana Furlough: how have you been?
Catrinamonblue Resident: doing really well :) Life is full of possibilities
Catrinamonblue Resident: how are things going for you?
Hana Furlough: very much the same : )
Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
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Catrinamonblue Resident: my dear friends I apologize but I must be off now. Need to sleep :) I will post the log in the morning. :)
Daedalus687 Resident: Bye now
Hana Furlough: good night!
Daedalus687 Resident: have fun
Catrinamonblue Resident: night :)

Hana Furlough: may i ask, are you daedalus like the ancient greek? or joyce? or both?
Daedalus687 Resident: Well, I take it from a game thats titled Deus Ex. But that takes it a bit from the greek interpretation.
Hana Furlough: ah okay!
Hana Furlough: cool
Daedalus687 Resident: In that game Daedalus is an artificial intellegence
Daedalus687 Resident: It was made in 2000. Its really hard to go back and play it nowadays, since its frustrating mechanically, but its dialogue and story are pretty well
Hana Furlough: oh interesting

Daedalus687 Resident: My self wants to talk about TSK every time I come here for some reason.
Hana Furlough: ok so let's talk about it
Daedalus687 Resident: What is and was your impression of?
Hana Furlough: it's been awhile since i've read it
Hana Furlough: but it was interesting and useful
Hana Furlough: i'd like to read it again
Daedalus687 Resident: Have you experienced any other text that is of its content or level?
Hana Furlough: it's its own animal for sure
Hana Furlough: but i've seen resonances
Hana Furlough: how about you?
Daedalus687 Resident: Not so much. It felt like a conversation that opens many doors
Daedalus687 Resident: I'd love to find something of its caliber
Hana Furlough: i think it depends on what resonates with someone personally
Hana Furlough: for some, TSK
Hana Furlough: for others, something else
Daedalus687 Resident: Yea

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Daedalus687 Resident: I am lured by mention of oracular communication.
Hana Furlough: can you say more?
Daedalus687 Resident: A communication that is primal
Daedalus687 Resident: readily discloses
Daedalus687 Resident: not bound by our limiting notions of what knowledge can communicate
Daedalus687 Resident: or what knowings be
Hana Furlough: what is communication that is not primal?
Daedalus687 Resident: Well I suppose I could narrow what I mean by primal saying what communion is or is not. Maybe that is missing something though
Daedalus687 Resident: You could say communication is both primal and not-primal
Daedalus687 Resident: But then I feel lured into the trap of the excluded middle
Hana Furlough: maybe it's in the eye of the beholder
Daedalus687 Resident: I would say maybe its not in any eye
Daedalus687 Resident: or in all eyes
Hana Furlough: :)
Daedalus687 Resident: I feel ran around when it comes to language use, especially in the context of something like TSK
Daedalus687 Resident: That as soon as I even attempt to articulate anything, boom!
Daedalus687 Resident: lol
Hana Furlough: yes, finger and the moon
Daedalus687 Resident: Im not familiar with that phrase
Hana Furlough: oh it's a zen expression
Hana Furlough: the truth, reality being the moon
Hana Furlough: and the finger being the teachings
Hana Furlough: with the idea not to get hung up on the finger
Hana Furlough: instead to look to the moon
Daedalus687 Resident: I see
Daedalus687 Resident: Maybe I do not know how to not get caught up in expression and words.
Daedalus687 Resident: Since I would love to share what I understand with others.
Hana Furlough: how would you share it?
Daedalus687 Resident: Well, maybe its not a sharing, maybe it and all that is, is present in another being I wish to commune with
Daedalus687 Resident: Like each point-being, being the whole and none of what is being.
Hana Furlough: interesting

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Daedalus687 Resident: Say that rock looking object in the middle of the pool is at its foundation, the whole and nothingness of all of time and space, contracting and expanding simulaneously and sequencially
Daedalus687 Resident: That 'point' would seem the able to express anything
Daedalus687 Resident: Right now to us two here now it appears a rock
Daedalus687 Resident: but it has been all and none, in that there is no been
Daedalus687 Resident: I dont know if i am making sense
Hana Furlough: a beautiful blackish purple bird just landed outside my window
Daedalus687 Resident: :)
Hana Furlough: so you're saying the fountain is impermanent and not separate from all other phenomena?
Daedalus687 Resident: The blackish purple bird seems more interesting than my blather, lol
Daedalus687 Resident: What was the bird doin there?
Daedalus687 Resident: Just chillin?
Hana Furlough: lol no!
Hana Furlough: both are interesting
Hana Furlough: : )
Hana Furlough: he came for a drink of water
Daedalus687 Resident: It must be daylight where you are
Daedalus687 Resident: I am in night
Hana Furlough: oh yeah, it is
Daedalus687 Resident: The light of the full moon is out so its bright
Hana Furlough: ahh yes, it's the last full moon of 2013, right?
Daedalus687 Resident: Hm, I didnt know that, but it makes sense
Hana Furlough: i saw someone post that on FB
Hana Furlough: full moon begins on dec. 17
Daedalus687 Resident: I think I am saying the fountain is both impermanent and permanent, separate and not-separate.
Hana Furlough: ahh ok!
Daedalus687 Resident: And that seeming conflict comes from our limited ability to hold both of the ideas at the same time and see all possibilities come to full fruition in this shared realm
Hana Furlough: yeah, it is hard sometimes
Hana Furlough: to make opposing gestures at once
Hana Furlough: but the more i do, the more i find that's where it's at
Daedalus687 Resident: I've been told before that we, or you or I, could never fully grasp it, even if we tried
Daedalus687 Resident: I dont know if I believe that though
Daedalus687 Resident: But then I cant stop using 'I' so who knows
Hana Furlough: yeah
Hana Furlough: maybe things are sometimes best left a mystery
Daedalus687 Resident: Agreed

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Daedalus687 Resident: at least we can play with it, not taking it uber seriously
Hana Furlough: yes
Daedalus687 Resident: I ought to retire, but I very much appreciate your view
Daedalus687 Resident: Thank you :)
Hana Furlough: it was great chatting with you
Hana Furlough: good night!
Daedalus687 Resident: Please take care, ill cya round