2009.06.09 19:00 - Being earthy dangerous

 

The Guardian for this meeting was Eos Amaterasu. The comments are by Eos Amaterasu.

Eos Amaterasu: HI Cosmic

cosmic Ghost: hi

Eos Amaterasu: Hi Anon!

Anony Mouse: hi!

Anony Mouse: how many people usually come to this?

Eos Amaterasu: It varies... from a couple to up to 10 maybe

Eos Amaterasu: I have "claimed" the log, which means I'll get an email with its location

Eos Amaterasu: so I can edit it for the wiki, where logs are kept

Anony Mouse: what does that mean?

Eos Amaterasu: So, btw, everything is being recorded here....

Eos Amaterasu: Is that okay?

Anony Mouse: oh...do i have a choice?

Anony Mouse: rather not be put on the web

Eos Amaterasu: Well, the guardian can edit your comments out, or make them anonymous

Anony Mouse: okay anonymous

Eos Amaterasu: anony mouse

Eos Amaterasu: terribly laggy tonight, saying words that just disappear

Eos Amaterasu: ah!

Anony Mouse: yea

Eos Amaterasu: "appreciate the presence of appearance" is one theme

Anony Mouse: is this a buddhist based group?

Eos Amaterasu: "appreciate the presence of appearance as a presentation of being" is a further elaboration

Eos Amaterasu: all based on the suspension that can happen for 9 secs every 15 min

Anony Mouse: gap

Eos Amaterasu: Not fundamentally, though it seems many of the members are buddhist, or have worked with such practices

Eos Amaterasu: appreciating being as manifest in the gap

Eos Amaterasu: People have brought in various traditions, in a personal way: ST Francis of Assissi, just a few days ago an Islamic perspective, etc

Eos Amaterasu: but the personal 1st person experience's the thing

Eos Amaterasu: The bird sounds are very much like when I go on walks through the local woods, the Dingle.

Anony Mouse: how does that recording thing work

Eos Amaterasu: I don't know the details. Wol Euler scripted it. It recognizes when someone is near.

Eos Amaterasu: I'm a Playing as Being guardian, and so when I touch the center of the fountain it gives me the option of "claiming" the session

Anony Mouse: i think im gonna have to relog...seem to be a bit frozen

Anony Mouse: brb

Eos Amaterasu: :-(

Eos Amaterasu is suspended in appearance, with no occupation

Eos Amaterasu observes multiple occupations on autopilot

Eos Amaterasu: Hi PIla!

Pila Mulligan: hi eos

Pila Mulligan: how are you?

Eos Amaterasu: okay.... enjoying things, with certain reality tensions, of course

Pila Mulligan: :)

Eos Amaterasu: How are you?

Pila Mulligan: I'm fine thanks, just came in from being active enough to work up a sweat (barely)

Pila Mulligan: so sitting kinda grungy

Eos Amaterasu: Ah yes, did some garden work myself couple days ago

Pila Mulligan: feels good, doesn't it :)

Eos Amaterasu: phenomenally earthy :-)

Pila Mulligan: Maxine visited two volcano sites over the weekend, playing -- earlier we were talking about the earthy phenomenon of senseing the power of volcanoes

Eos Amaterasu: Yes, I saw her description: awe-some.

Eos Amaterasu: Sense of being, sense of danger; she talks of awareness of unbelievable violence that intimately part of creative force

Eos Amaterasu: that's

Pila Mulligan: Hawaii volcanoes are supposedly not explosive, like the ones she saw -- ours are slow, and show a very obvious yin and yang -- the dense vegetation next to lava

Eos Amaterasu: I saw a video once of lava from Hawaii volcano entering and steaming the sea

Pila Mulligan: :)

Eos Amaterasu: "beauty is that part of terror we are still able to bear"

Pila Mulligan: I can imagine -- I've seen it much less dramatically in person

Pila Mulligan: those videos are using from offshore

Pila Mulligan: I was just watching it go over the edge from above

Pila Mulligan: slow flow, nothing spectacular, but very moving still

Eos Amaterasu: like Hawai island existence itself?

Pila Mulligan: yes, the island I live on is growing every day

Eos Amaterasu: you're appreciating the presence of geology :-)

Pila Mulligan: :)

Pila Mulligan: what do you suppose would be an accurate word for Being (in the sense used here) from an Eastern tradition?

Pila Mulligan: Sat?

Eos Amaterasu: In a way... "Sat" as "That"

Pila Mulligan: wu chi fits nicely from Chinese

Eos Amaterasu: I would say, "that", in the sense that it 's used in "No one can describe That by saying, 'It is this'"

Pila Mulligan: :)

Eos Amaterasu: chi flowing wu wei style?

Pila Mulligan: chi and wu wei derive from wu chi :)

Eos Amaterasu: How would you describe wu chi?

Eos Amaterasu: Ah!

Pila Mulligan: wu wei is represented by the circle -- the undifferentiated whole of Being

Pila Mulligan: wu chi*

Eos Amaterasu notes the amazing lag, phrases arriving asynchronously

Pila Mulligan: sorry, not wu wei :)

Pila Mulligan: :)

Pila Mulligan: floating throug maya in harmony :)

Eos Amaterasu: So is that a description of APA?

Pila Mulligan: no, oif Being

Pila Mulligan: oh, no, you and I were in snchrony, by lag if maya, floating ...

Pila Mulligan: of*

Eos Amaterasu: wu lag :-)

Pila Mulligan: I was playing with the idea of how some of Pema's acronyms could be rendered as mantras using traditional Eastern terms -- got as far as sat for Being, then stuck ... :)

Pila Mulligan: maybe om would work for Being in a mantra?

Pila Mulligan: chit could be awareness

Pila Mulligan: om chit something

Eos Amaterasu: well, you could say "the jewel in the lotus" is aka "the being in appearance"

Pila Mulligan: chit mane padme om

Eos Amaterasu: Sat chit ananda

Pila Mulligan: yep, that is the awareness I was thinking of

Pila Mulligan: and the sat

Pila Mulligan: but bliss does not appear here :) yet

Pila Mulligan: ananda

Eos Amaterasu: Sat : appearance; chit/citta : appreciate ; ananda : presence

Eos Amaterasu: the warmth of presence

Eos Amaterasu: the feeling of other as the feeling of self

Pila Mulligan: I get chit appreciate, presence may work with ananda, but the old mantra already has intepreted meanings

Pila Mulligan: as a mantra

Eos Amaterasu: we be playing

Pila Mulligan: it seems to me that the phenomenological element is the distinct exception from the mantra -- but maybe I'm wrongly understaning it

Pila Mulligan: it is fun to play with these things

Pila Mulligan: well, you've served you time Eos and I need to wash up ....

Pila Mulligan: nice to visit with you

Pila Mulligan: served it well, if I may add

Eos Amaterasu: those things also apply to oneself - that's where that sense of danger comes in

Pila Mulligan: ?

Pila Mulligan: more?

Eos Amaterasu: Bye Pila!

Pila Mulligan: no wait, you got me curious :)

Eos Amaterasu: lag

Pila Mulligan: :)

Eos Amaterasu: appreciate the presence of yourself as appearing as a presentation of being

Pila Mulligan: hmmmm ... and the sense of danger?

Eos Amaterasu: this very solidity

Eos Amaterasu: seeming solidity

Pila Mulligan: :)

Pila Mulligan: ok, thanks

Eos Amaterasu: Ciao, I should also turn in!

Pila Mulligan: see you next time, Eos -- aloha `oe