2011.12.13 19:00 - constantly engaged in letting go

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Eos Amaterasu. The comments are by Eos Amaterasu.

     

    Eos Amaterasu: Occupy Multiverse!
    Multiverse1 Resident: Haha, Hi Eos
    Multiverse1 Resident: Occupy our tyme
    Eos Amaterasu: indeed :-)
    Eos Amaterasu: may it be fragrant!
    Eos Amaterasu: So _how_ to occupy our time.....
    Multiverse1 Resident: colorful in sl
    Multiverse1 Resident: heard a funny one on the news today
    Multiverse1 Resident: scientists discovered "the God particle at cern
    Eos Amaterasu: I was looking at some of the quotes Eliza collected about APAPB (sic?)
    Eliza Madrigal: :) Hi
    Eos Amaterasu: Appreciate the Presence of Appearance asa Presention of/by (?) Being
    Multiverse1 Resident: hi Eliza
    Eos Amaterasu: Hi Eliza
    Eos Amaterasu: thinking of "Occupy SL ! Multiverse1"
    Multiverse1 Resident: closer proximity perhaps, the presence is where each of us is
    Eliza Madrigal: :))"
    Eos Amaterasu: & how to occupy ourselves, our multiverses
    Multiverse1 Resident: Yes I joined that group for some reason, don't really know why I did it either.
    Eos Amaterasu: Here's one of those quotes (about APAPB)
    Eos Amaterasu: (speaking of not knowing why you did it)
    Eos Amaterasu:

    Pema Pera: My guess is that we don't try to think too much at the beginning, and that when we seriously do the practice, we will notice what directions it wants to go for us
    Pema Pera: we have a tendency to always want to know at the beginning where an exploration will lead us
    Pema Pera: we want a map, a plan
    Pema Pera: but instead we can just ask the practice itself what it wants
    Pema Pera: we can try to step aside, so to speak, and let it unfold
    Pema Pera: and then report, so that we can help each other with advice


    Eliza Madrigal: very spacious
    Eos Amaterasu: (how to occupy sl! multiverses)
    Multiverse1 Resident: sounds like a sound plan to me.
    Eos Amaterasu: so we could take that approach in upcoming 90 seconds
    Eliza Madrigal: being occupied by appreciative appearances
    Eos Amaterasu: (it's also okay to jump the gun :-)
    Multiverse1 Resident: Why do we need to occupy a certain spacetyme?
    Eliza Madrigal smiles
    Eos Amaterasu: occupied by them, yes
    Eos Amaterasu: we don't need to, perhaps, but we seem to, in various ways
    Multiverse1 Resident: who are they?
    Multiverse1 Resident: all but us?
    Eos Amaterasu: good question to rest in
    Eliza Madrigal nods :)
    Eos Amaterasu: let appearance shine on us
    Eos Amaterasu: through us
    Eos Amaterasu: as us :-)
    Multiverse1 Resident: lipstick
    Eos Amaterasu: :-)
    Eos Amaterasu: playing as Marilyn Monroe
    Multiverse1 Resident: as an apperance
    Multiverse1 Resident: as shoes
    Multiverse1 Resident: or
    Eos Amaterasu: here we go:
    Eos Amaterasu: Pema Pera: My guess is that we don't try to think too much at the beginning, and that when we seriously do the practice, we will notice what directions it wants to go for us


    --BELL--


    Multiverse1 Resident: So Eos, what do you cultivate this day?
    Eos Amaterasu: Hmm... well, in that last 90 sec pause...
    Multiverse1 Resident: sure
    Eos Amaterasu: I let myself relax, not try
    Eos Amaterasu: look where I look, let that rest
    Multiverse1 Resident: nothing wrong with that, so did I
    Eos Amaterasu: a richer kind of feeling
    Multiverse1 Resident: relaxing
    Multiverse1 Resident: floating in the multiverse
    Eliza Madrigal: 'look where I look, let that rest'... nice
    Eos Amaterasu: there's green plants in my room that are just kind of being, rich and relaxed in their green way
    Eos Amaterasu: (one of them needs water :-)
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Eos Amaterasu: maybe it made me notice :-)
    Eliza Madrigal: drew you in
    Multiverse1 Resident: water, a wondrous thing, thirst another
    Eos Amaterasu: hydrophilia
    Multiverse1 Resident: was thinking just prior of not hearing the fountain
    Eos Amaterasu: my computer is humming
    Multiverse1 Resident: I saw the exquisite ice scuplts here, water will be next
    Eos Amaterasu: will give that another look, yes
    Eos Amaterasu: My wife came across a quote from Francisco Varela, in conversation with Otto Scharmer (summer 200) that's right on topic....
    Eos Amaterasu:

    A life of wisdom is to be constantly engaged in letting go, and letting the virtuality or the fragility of the self manifest itself. When you are with somebody who really has that capacity to a full-blown level, it affects you. The process is not individual, it's not private, and you enter into that kind of resonance. You relax—there's something very enjoyable about that. There's a joy in that kind of life. That's the good life, I'd say.
    —Francisco Varela, from a conversation with Otto Scharmer, 2000


    Eliza Madrigal: beautiful quote!
    Eos Amaterasu: so rare to hear a useful definition of the good life
    Multiverse1 Resident: Nice
    Eliza Madrigal: amazing, yes
    Eliza Madrigal: the real good life
    Multiverse1 Resident: a connection
    Eos Amaterasu: letting go constantly, "letting the virtuality or the fragility of the self manifest itself."
    Eos Amaterasu: letting it go in appreciation
    Eos Amaterasu: and that's part of your/our public
    Multiverse1 Resident: kind of like the left and right feet walking together.
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Eos Amaterasu: step out, out, out.... don't know exactly where foot will land
    Multiverse1 Resident: I've heard that walking is falling forward and just catching yourself so you don't fall on your face.
    Eos Amaterasu: heh heh
    Eos Amaterasu: Pema Pera: we have a tendency to always want to know at the beginning where an exploration will lead us
    Multiverse1 Resident: A tech came up with a device for the disabled using the principle
    Eliza Madrigal nods, maybe 'where' misses the point
    Eliza Madrigal: interesting Multi
    Multiverse1 Resident: to enable a disabled person to walk. Though we don't think of it as falling forward
    Eos Amaterasu: falling forward in next 90 secs....
    Multiverse1 Resident: like in space when orbiting the planet,


    --BELL--


    Multiverse1 Resident: Hi observerm
    Eliza Madrigal: very satisfying
    Multiverse1 Resident: Hi Stevenaia
    stevenaia Michinaga: evening all
    Eos Amaterasu: Hi Stevie
    stevenaia Michinaga: gtsy all
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Stevie :) oh, and hello Observerm too
    Eos Amaterasu: I'm afraid I started thinking work thoughts, inside some programming conundrum
    Eos Amaterasu: but I could slightly feel that as inside the falling as well
    stevenaia Michinaga: sorry to be late, I seem to be downloading a new version of my viewer every time I log on
    Eos Amaterasu: ah yes, I ignored that message for the time being
    Multiverse1 Resident: working it out subconsciously
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Eos Amaterasu: We were also talking about:
    Eos Amaterasu:

    Pema Pera: My guess is that we don't try to think too much at the beginning, and that when we seriously do the practice, we will notice what directions it wants to go for us
    Pema Pera: we have a tendency to always want to know at the beginning where an exploration will lead us
    Pema Pera: we want a map, a plan
    Pema Pera: but instead we can just ask the practice itself what it wants
    Pema Pera: we can try to step aside, so to speak, and let it unfold
    Pema Pera: and then report, so that we can help each other with advice


    Eos Amaterasu: we can share the virtuality of our experience
    Eliza Madrigal: have been struck by the textures and varying 'weights of attention' which letting go into openness feels to show up

    Eos Amaterasu: hmm, like 'weights of attention'
    Multiverse1 Resident: the material world to which we are attacted
    Multiverse1 Resident: attached
    Eliza Madrigal: perhaps like Eos's plant... some things asking
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Multiverse1 Resident: woven together like the plant the sun the soil and the water
    Multiverse1 Resident: matter to energy in it's purist form
    stevenaia Michinaga: I often wonder if there are those who step aside and listen and those who alread have stepped aside and don't notice
    stevenaia Michinaga: a friend of mine, a "Buddahist" is a very angry person, I asked how can yu be an angry Buddahist, and they respond... because I am working on being a better one
    Eliza Madrigal: hmm what an interesting question re noticing stepping aside...
    Multiverse1 Resident: Yes caused me to do it.
    Multiverse1 Resident: I tend to be one who dosn't notice
    stevenaia Michinaga: then there are those have have aleady become are "better aqt it and perhaps no longer need to be angry, but don;t need to notice it
    Multiverse1 Resident: it's probably one of my biggest flaws
    stevenaia Michinaga: smiles, but I bet everyone else notices
    Multiverse1 Resident: some yes
    Multiverse1 Resident: like the winter and the spring
    stevenaia Michinaga: that is when you feel your own reflection... when someone sees it
    Multiverse1 Resident: stepping aside to wait and see what happens
    Multiverse1 Resident: the reflection of the reflection is better
    Multiverse1 Resident: observerm should note that one
    stevenaia Michinaga: there are those who like the feel of the freight train coming at them, and others who like to watch it pass by
    stevenaia Michinaga: they are only a step apart
    stevenaia Michinaga: or a world apart
    Multiverse1 Resident: nothing wrong with the difference, at tymes in my life I may feel both ways
    Multiverse1 Resident: And then be the 20 witnesses to the event
    Multiverse1 Resident: and the grasshopper that was hit by the train


    --BELL--


    Eos Amaterasu: Hi Tess
    Eos Amaterasu: wb multi
    Multiverse1 Resident: having viewer issues myself this day
    Eos Amaterasu: no viewer, no verse
    Tess Aristocrat: hello ㋡
    Multiverse1 Resident: crashed is all
    Multiverse1 Resident: Hi Tess
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Tess :)
    Eos Amaterasu: Combining some of Pema's lines: when we seriously do the practice... we can just ask the practice itself what it wants
    stevenaia Michinaga: hi Tess
    Eos Amaterasu was wondering what it means to seriously do the practice
    Multiverse1 Resident: it wants to make perfection
    Multiverse1 Resident: peace
    stevenaia Michinaga: I do similar things with IChing, let the question form itself
    Multiverse1 Resident: As needs bee
    stevenaia Michinaga: serious play goes on here
    Multiverse1 Resident: The best questions have no answers
    Eos Amaterasu: create multiverses
    Multiverse1 Resident: they create themselves methinx
    stevenaia Michinaga: like those chinese finger cuff, whre the harder you pull, the tighter they get. but if you stop resisting, they fall off
    Multiverse1 Resident: nice assimilation
    Eliza Madrigal: I notice myself falling.... time for sleep...
    stevenaia Michinaga: night Eliza
    Eos Amaterasu: zzzz, Eliza
    Multiverse1 Resident: as thay say if you sleep on it you will figure it out while not trying to.
    Eliza Madrigal: indeed zzzzzz
    Eliza Madrigal: Night Friends
    Multiverse1 Resident: Night Eliza
    Multiverse1 Resident: Like your conundrum Eos, It will work out in tyme I'm sure
    Eos Amaterasu: then I will be sage
    Multiverse1 Resident: When that instant occurs please let me know.
    Eos Amaterasu: :-)
    Eos Amaterasu: perhaps being sage is to forget about being sage
    Multiverse1 Resident: Imangine how little we know of this world we live in.
    Eos Amaterasu: we probably can't :-)
    Multiverse1 Resident: i can't
    Multiverse1 Resident: Everything except what I know I guess
    Multiverse1 Resident: That's alot
    Multiverse1 Resident: So what or how much does the sage know?
    Eos Amaterasu: maybe the sage lets the world, the multiverse, do the knowing?
    Eos Amaterasu: (lazy sage)
    Multiverse1 Resident: then he is a part of it all
    Multiverse1 Resident: without trying
    Multiverse1 Resident: like Eos will solve his conundrum
    Eos Amaterasu: Pema Pera: we can try to step aside, so to speak, and let it unfold
                             Pema Pera: and then report, so that we can help each other with advice


    --BELL--


    Multiverse1 Resident: how far aside shall we step?
    Eos Amaterasu: no strategy
    Eos Amaterasu: (that's pretty far!)
    Multiverse1 Resident: I sense the train coming soon
    stevenaia Michinaga: I often wonder who we each learn what we do, like steping aside, for instance, and once we do, how to we, or how can we create an envirnment to show others how
    stevenaia Michinaga: since we all seem to ahve that abily in our own time
    Multiverse1 Resident: to me it seems the group and the moment seem key in this
    stevenaia Michinaga: I assume we all posses all abilities.... in our own time
    Tess Aristocrat: nods..it's all math and measurement at its base
    Multiverse1 Resident: we are all ourselves indeed
    Eos Amaterasu: like a dance, mutual off balance stepping aside and around
    Multiverse1 Resident: to catch yourself at the correct moment in tyme
    stevenaia Michinaga: nods, dance is practice
    Eos Amaterasu: & let tyme spice catch you
    stevenaia Michinaga: so is everything else
    Tess Aristocrat: nods
    Multiverse1 Resident: and so we do not fall on our face this day
    Multiverse1 Resident: or break our necks
    stevenaia Michinaga: nods, just now and then until we stop
    Multiverse1 Resident: a see saw
    Eos Amaterasu: take care, and let be taken care of
    Multiverse1 Resident: the rythm as music perhaps
    Eos Amaterasu: in letting go, falling, there's no guarantee
    Tess Aristocrat: even the notes
    Multiverse1 Resident: the flow as Eos refered to it
    Eos Amaterasu must now take that train, that lonesome midnight sound is haunting
    stevenaia Michinaga: night eos
    Eos Amaterasu: thank you all!
    Multiverse1 Resident: listening to the water in my aquarium
    Tess Aristocrat: night
    Multiverse1 Resident: Night Eos
    Eos Amaterasu: nice to play and dance & seriously practice :-)
    Multiverse1 Resident: I'm out too Stevie, have pleasantness
    stevenaia Michinaga: night Multi
    stevenaia Michinaga: sweet dreams
    stevenaia Michinaga: bye Observerm

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