2011.12.27 19:00 - Berlin meetup recalled

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Eos Amaterasu. The comments are by Eos Amaterasu.

     

    Eos Amaterasu: Hi Pema
    Pema Pera: hi Eos!
    Pema Pera: I really enjoyed reading your comments, in the "99" about parallels between Christian notions and what we are doing here
    Pema Pera: and similar for other traditions, from hinduism, taoism, sufism to buddhism, etc
    Eos Amaterasu: Oh, yes... inspired by listening to Beethoven's Missa Solemnis, the "Benedictus" section
    Pema Pera: :-)
    Pema Pera: it would be fun to collect a list of quotes with rough parallels to playing as Being
    Eos Amaterasu: in a way that's secular inspiration (the music) joining with other inspirations
    Pema Pera: wouldn't have to be exact, of course
    Pema Pera: yes, music can be very powerful that way
    Eos Amaterasu: Also would be somewhat relative to how people take those quotes
    Pema Pera: well, yes . . . . always possible to misunderstand :)
    Pema Pera: we could provide some FAQs
    Pema Pera: Hi Multi!
    Eos Amaterasu: Hi Multi
    Multiverse1 Resident: hi eos
    Eos Amaterasu: in a way that's a commentary or approach to APAPB
    Pema Pera: what is?
    Eos Amaterasu: "blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord"
    Eos Amaterasu: blessed is he comes playing as Being
    Eos Amaterasu: :-)
    Pema Pera: :-)
    Pema Pera: and yes, *very* easy to misunderstand
    Multiverse1 Resident: what does this tyme period bring us here and now?
    Eos Amaterasu: I mean that both seriously and humorously
    Pema Pera: yes, I figured :)
    Multiverse1 Resident: the lord you say!
    Pema Pera: as long as it's not a tribal lord, it can be okay :)
    Multiverse1 Resident: who's lord, might I ask?
    Eos Amaterasu: but also a Xtian understanding of that could be through that understanding of "not I, but Christ lives in me"
    Multiverse1 Resident: hmmm
    Pema Pera wondering about that old Chinese sage Xtian . . .
    Eos Amaterasu: so that it's no longer the ego you, but perhaps a higher purpose, or the wu wei of Being
    Multiverse1 Resident: wasn'y that the holiday that just commenced
    Eos Amaterasu: I guess I was inspired by the holiday
    Pema Pera: it's closest to Atman, in Hinduism, perhaps
    Eos Amaterasu: and its musical / christian themes (starting with attending a performance of the Messiah)
    Multiverse1 Resident: a persistant myth
    Eos Amaterasu: the incarnate Christ could be seen as nirmanakaya
    Pema Pera: what do you think about the real world, Multi, could that also be a persistant myth?
    Eos Amaterasu: with God as dharmakaya
    Eos Amaterasu: and the Holy Spirit sambhogakaya
    Pema Pera: definite parallels, yes
    Pema Pera: sambhogakaya you mean
    Pema Pera: ?
    Multiverse1 Resident: yes, we make our belief systems
    Eos Amaterasu: whups, yes
    Pema Pera: out of all sense impressions we construct a convenient world, for our needs
    Multiverse1 Resident: create and build and ....
    Eos Amaterasu: but is there a sort of anthropic principle to how we make our belief systems?
    Multiverse1 Resident: change them as we see fit
    Eos Amaterasu: my wife gave me a button that says, "the universe is a figment of its own imagination"
    Multiverse1 Resident: humanism is the creator then?
    Pema Pera: you mean evolutionary, Eos?
    Pema Pera: as a filter?
    Multiverse1 Resident: anthropological
    Pema Pera: I like that button, Eos!
    Eos Amaterasu: or, we see things a certain way, because that's how we're "built"
    Eos Amaterasu: (that how the universe sees us)
    Multiverse1 Resident: The bee would be the creator of it's realm, would it not?
    Eos Amaterasu: co-creator at least
    Eos Amaterasu: co-creating a niche
    Multiverse1 Resident: The universe has eyes now then?
    Multiverse1 Resident: one sense of our 5
    Eos Amaterasu: the universe has awares in multiple modalities, perhaps
    Eos Amaterasu: Hi Para
    Multiverse1 Resident: yes, me have to nod to that
    Pema Pera: hi Paradise!
    Eos Amaterasu: intense red modality, Paradise!
    Multiverse1 Resident: ah paradise is with us!
    Paradise Tennant: hiya pema eos multi happy holiday
    Pema Pera sees intense orange :-)
    Multiverse1 Resident: happy holyday
    Pema Pera: must be my Dutch upbringing
    Multiverse1 Resident: tulips
    Multiverse1 Resident: 2 lls


    --BELL--


    Multiverse1 Resident: I should probably grow hair here. maybe, I guess.
    Eos Amaterasu: the multiverse speaks... and grows hair
    Pema Pera: but black holes have no hair
    Multiverse1 Resident: If there are black holes, are there white holes?
    Pema Pera: there could be
    Pema Pera: but we don't know of any
    Multiverse1 Resident: or spumes
    Pema Pera: we know of many black holes
    Multiverse1 Resident: we do not really know what a black hole trully is.
    Paradise Tennant: wonders if they are breeding or if we are just better at observing
    Eos Amaterasu: a hole in none
    Pema Pera: :-)
    Multiverse1 Resident: step inside one , next chance I get!


    Pema Pera: Paradise, I really enjoyed reading the theme session about Berlin!
    Pema Pera: Sorry I wasn't there to hear it
    Paradise Tennant: yes I was sorry I missed .. :)
    Paradise Tennant: too
    Pema Pera: I don't think I got an announcement
    Pema Pera: except while it had already started
    Paradise Tennant: same here did see the email
    Eos Amaterasu: yes, I think it happened somewhat spontaneously
    Paradise Tennant: smiles we had a lovely time
    Paradise Tennant: real life is so refreshing :)
    Eos Amaterasu: I got an email as it had already started
    Pema Pera: yes, that was palpable!
    Multiverse1 Resident: spontanaity
    Paradise Tennant: managed to cram a lot in in a very short time
    Eos Amaterasu: you made a long trip, Paradise!
    Paradise Tennant: I did
    Paradise Tennant: a very long trip
    Multiverse1 Resident: did you swim/
    Pema Pera: I hope to get another chance to meet again in Europe
    Paradise Tennant: but I have never been there
    Pema Pera: in Berlin you mean?
    Pema Pera: or Germany?
    Paradise Tennant: yes like the european locations there are so many places I have not seen in europe
    Paradise Tennant: both
    Multiverse1 Resident: ah in sl
    Multiverse1 Resident: what took place in Berlin?
    Pema Pera: what was the most fun and/or surprising aspect of the whole meeting, if I may ask?
    Paradise Tennant: we had a meet up
    Pema Pera: (or two :-)
    Eos Amaterasu: a half dozen or so avatars?
    Paradise Tennant: smiles wow being together
    Multiverse1 Resident: oh, with boxy?
    Paradise Tennant: talking just like this
    Paradise Tennant: exploring the city we went sliding down man made hills on big rubber tires
    Paradise Tennant: ate curry worst .. drank mulled wine
    Pema Pera: :-)
    Multiverse1 Resident: curry worst?
    Multiverse1 Resident: a sausage?
    Eos Amaterasu: würst?
    Paradise Tennant: sausage with a curry sauce
    Multiverse1 Resident: hmm, have not tried that one
    Paradise Tennant: had dinner out . .also sat around one of the suites and just talked and snacked
    Eos Amaterasu: paused?
    Paradise Tennant: toured around the xmas markets
    Multiverse1 Resident: relected
    Multiverse1 Resident: reflected
    Paradise Tennant: saw interesting art .. walked the city .. walked its gardens
    Paradise Tennant: mostly the best part was being together :)
    Multiverse1 Resident: presense
    Multiverse1 Resident: shadows
    Paradise Tennant: yes tangible in the flesh prescence
    Multiverse1 Resident: light on paradise
    Paradise Tennant: we meditated :)
    Paradise Tennant: talked about the experience after
    Eos Amaterasu: appreciate presence through meetup
    Paradise Tennant: i bought some candles because it helps me focus
    Paradise Tennant: one of my favourite parts of a trip is grocery shopping love going to a strange country and just walking through the grocery stores everything is the same but different :)
    Pema Pera: :-)
    Multiverse1 Resident: focus
    Eos Amaterasu thinks of almond cookies
    Paradise Tennant: it is interesting how .. well you really know .. each other ..
    Paradise Tennant: smiles at eos
    Multiverse1 Resident: yes, in france, no fresh veggies
    Pema Pera thinks of marzipan
    Paradise Tennant: smiles
    Paradise Tennant: and how that knowing .. is not limited by the physical :)
    Pema Pera: yes, every retreat brings that surprising non-surprise of how well we all know each other already
    Paradise Tennant: in a way as wols says this is a meeting of souls
    Eos Amaterasu: so you met people in RL for the first time, Para?
    Eos Amaterasu: like Boxy, ...
    Pema Pera: no, in Malta you were there too, right?
    Pema Pera: and in Princeton before that
    Multiverse1 Resident: an excursion then
    Paradise Tennant: yes :) met boxy for the first time met a couple of other sl friends for the first time
    Eos Amaterasu: I mean people not met before, like Boxy I think
    Paradise Tennant: wol and bertrum I had met before
    Eos Amaterasu: and Yaku
    Paradise Tennant: mic I had met before and yaku
    Paradise Tennant: mic's wife is lovely :)
    Paradise Tennant: just all round fun
    Pema Pera: sorry, lunch is calling, have to get going
    Paradise Tennant: take care pema :)
    Eos Amaterasu: bye pema
    Paradise Tennant: enjoy your lunch
    Pema Pera: nice seeing you again!
    Multiverse1 Resident: eat well
    Eos Amaterasu: enjoy food!
    Pema Pera: thanks!


    --BELL--


    Multiverse1 Resident: Multi, wants to eat the fish roaming in front of his face, Not! Too tough.
    Paradise Tennant: really everyone there was interesting and wonderful company :)
    Multiverse1 Resident: a memory for a lifetyme
    Eos Amaterasu: great to see that the strange attractor bring people together in SL attracts in RL as well
    Paradise Tennant: yes amazing how fast it fades though
    Eos Amaterasu: ah!
    Eos Amaterasu: that's it!
    Multiverse1 Resident: always present
    Eos Amaterasu: touch and go
    Paradise Tennant: smiles hiya stev :))
    Multiverse1 Resident: but distance created through more current imput.
    Eos Amaterasu: hi stevenaia
    stevenaia Michinaga: waves
    Multiverse1 Resident: Hiya Stevenaia
    stevenaia Michinaga: hi Para, Multi
    Eos Amaterasu: Para is tellling us about berlin meetuip
    stevenaia Michinaga: :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: listens
    Paradise Tennant: smiles eos yes the memories do not fade they just become crowded over :)
    Paradise Tennant: likes the berlin flower shops
    Eos Amaterasu: special moments have their truth
    Multiverse1 Resident: The flowers of oranges
    Paradise Tennant: we walked into an antique and art sale pokes around .. the previewing
    Paradise Tennant: they have wonderful gummy bears in berlin
    Paradise Tennant: brought home 3 bags :)
    Eos Amaterasu: mmm
    stevenaia Michinaga: :)
    Paradise Tennant: like just walking around neigbourhoods do not have to do tourist site .. like just to absorb the feel of a city
    Eos Amaterasu: mirror neurons firing like crazy
    Multiverse1 Resident: natual waunderment
    Eos Amaterasu: (re gummy bears, but also re city)
    Paradise Tennant: we went to one of the museums .. sat in bedouin tent drank mint tea and ate curry on big carpet cushions
    Eos Amaterasu: wow
    Multiverse1 Resident: kool
    stevenaia Michinaga: in town?
    Paradise Tennant: they had a craft fair there bought a vintage sari :)
    Paradise Tennant: just really poked around wonderful to be with people who speak the language
    Multiverse1 Resident: how long was your stay para?
    Paradise Tennant: boxy had a great ap on his phone helped up navigate
    Paradise Tennant: 6 days
    Multiverse1 Resident: nice
    Paradise Tennant: *us
    Multiverse1 Resident: tyme to absorb and do a multiplicity of things
    Paradise Tennant: went to a spanish restaurant one night and one of friends sang a couple of songs with the spanish guitarists there was just amazingly good food :)
    Multiverse1 Resident: curry wurst, hmm
    Paradise Tennant: boxy and I went on bus tour one morning in the rain
    Multiverse1 Resident: now spanish food in Berlin. It's closer than America!
    Paradise Tennant: and the acquarium :) was so cool :) nose to nose with incredible sea life
    Multiverse1 Resident: nose to nose
    Multiverse1 Resident: better than my fish here
    Eos Amaterasu: sounds like a legendary time :-)
    Multiverse1 Resident: good word, eos
    Paradise Tennant: yes quick but full :) to the brim with memorable :)
    Multiverse1 Resident: a space reserved in para forever


    Eos Amaterasu: when and where is the next one?
    Paradise Tennant: not sure ?
    Paradise Tennant: hmm boxy is talking of venice next year :)
    Multiverse1 Resident: He seems to know Europe
    Paradise Tennant: smiles I do not think he has been there before . it is one of wol's favourite places and I must admit . I really like the city too :)
    Paradise Tennant: but for european travel you need at least 10 days to two weeks
    Multiverse1 Resident: The cities of civilization
    Paradise Tennant: find the first week you just getting adjusted
    Paradise Tennant: to the time difference
    stevenaia Michinaga: :)
    Multiverse1 Resident: lag
    Paradise Tennant: end up coming home very tired usually . never really sleep the same
    Multiverse1 Resident: tyme zones
    Multiverse1 Resident: flight
    Multiverse1 Resident: travel


    --BELL--


    Multiverse1 Resident: how was the weather para?
    Paradise Tennant: rainy
    Paradise Tennant: mild
    Paradise Tennant: kind of grey
    Multiverse1 Resident: all 6 days?
    Paradise Tennant: not rain all the time but grey all the time
    Paradise Tennant: nice to go somewhere .. and know someone who lives there makes a huge difference
    Eos Amaterasu: ah yes, I was in Berlin a couple of times that time of year
    Multiverse1 Resident: tyme of year or week perhaps
    Multiverse1 Resident: the weather was inconsequential then
    Paradise Tennant: one of my friends cooked us dinner in her home .. just nice all round
    Paradise Tennant: yes weather does not matter nearly so much as the company :)
    Multiverse1 Resident: yes warmth I can tell
    Eos Amaterasu: we are warmed by the strange attractor we nourish
    Multiverse1 Resident: yes our food
    Paradise Tennant: hmm somehow you find .. those you can relate to .. communicate with ..
    Multiverse1 Resident: many types of food
    Multiverse1 Resident: attractors
    Eos Amaterasu: the unspoken yet felt unsaid?
    Paradise Tennant: what it always shows me is that .. underneath a wide divergence of exteriors we are all the same
    Paradise Tennant: like one beating heart :)
    Eos Amaterasu: "wake up to find out that you are the eyes of the world"
    Multiverse1 Resident: This one is for the "listener " Stevenaia.
    Multiverse1 Resident: He who knows, does not speak. He who speaks, does not know." Lao Tzu
    stevenaia Michinaga: :)
    Eos Amaterasu: that is the transmission beyond words
    Eos Amaterasu: which seemed to be present in Berlin?
    Multiverse1 Resident: present
    Eos Amaterasu: presencing
    Paradise Tennant: hmm somehow sitting in a room together being silent speaks volumes :)
    Paradise Tennant: you notice .. the intangible ..
    Paradise Tennant: the interconnected
    Multiverse1 Resident: body language?
    Paradise Tennant: the sound of breathing ..
    Paradise Tennant: the quiet rustles
    Multiverse1 Resident: sl breathes deep
    Paradise Tennant: there is a circle of being :)
    Paradise Tennant: smiles
    Eos Amaterasu: brightness rests in the aire
    Multiverse1 Resident: boxy would say a square
    Multiverse1 Resident: I would say a prism
    Paradise Tennant: yes we are together .. being together . as individuals and as a whole
    Paradise Tennant: really enjoyed meeting so many wonderful people in such a short time and coming to know that I was connected to them .. understood them .. was a friend to them :)
    Multiverse1 Resident: am me, you are you, and we are we.
    stevenaia Michinaga: connections here run deep
    Multiverse1 Resident: the rivers of tyme
    Paradise Tennant: should not leave out the dog setia had a lovely dog lila :) who charmed everyone
    Multiverse1 Resident: the glue of the household
    Paradise Tennant: yaku's girlfriend evelyn had one of the most beautiful smiles I have seen in long long time .. she just lit up when she smiled :)
    Multiverse1 Resident: a resonance
    Eos Amaterasu: billions of cells lighting up, I bet
    Multiverse1 Resident: a flower
    Eos Amaterasu: mirror neurons emergent
    Multiverse1 Resident: reflections


    --BELL--


    Eos Amaterasu: time to depart to sleep - night all!
    Paradise Tennant: smiles sweet dreams . eos :))
    Multiverse1 Resident: night eos
    stevenaia Michinaga: night Eos, I should follow, long day
    Paradise Tennant: smiles ok nite nite stev thank you
    stevenaia Michinaga: :)
    Paradise Tennant: nite nite multi think I will scoot too .
    stevenaia Michinaga: you too
    Paradise Tennant: still need to shovel :)
    Multiverse1 Resident: and I, thanx para, for an enlightening encounter
    stevenaia Michinaga: shovel?
    stevenaia Michinaga: you ahve snow?
    Paradise Tennant: lol
    Multiverse1 Resident: night stevie
    Paradise Tennant: smiles in my winter garden :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: awww, smiles
    Paradise Tennant: be well everyone

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