2009.02.26 13:00 - Wol's brightly coloured pills

The guardian for this session was Storm Nordwind. The comments are Storm's.

A snuffly Wol was already in the pavilion when I arrived on the hour, and already in conversation with an occasional visitor.

Wol Euler: hello storm
Putty Broome: hi storm
Storm Nordwind: Hi guys
Putty Broome: so what did you think of convo you read
Putty Broome: about avalon and all that
Wol Euler blushes. to be honest, I don't remember that it dealt with Avalon, I just remembered your name and did a search to find which session it was
Putty Broome: oh
Wol Euler blames it on the meds and too little sleep
Putty Broome: lol
Wol Euler: sorry :)
Putty Broome: well maybe i didnt talk about avalon i cant remember
Wol Euler: if you were to talk about it, what would you have said? :)
Putty Broome: buddhists call it nibanna or nirvanna
Wol Euler: oh, interesting.
Putty Broome: oh not sure i usually get feelings let me know how much to share or not

Being polite, I tried to get my bearings in the conversation that was already happening. Meanwhile other people started to arrive.

Storm Nordwind: We are talking about Avalon?
Putty Broome: christians call it new jerusalem its in almost everymyth and relegion
Putty Broome: the mist island in the sky
Putty Broome: its a real place in other dimension though ive been
Storm Nordwind: I thought Avalon was just England. And many people like to think of Glastonbury as being there! :)
Putty Broome: no its just higher memension city
Putty Broome: demension
Storm Nordwind: a real place?
Putty Broome: yes
Storm Nordwind: been there?
Putty Broome: yes in soul travel
Storm Nordwind: And what did you learn from your travel there?
Wol Euler apologises and wanders off in search of Kleenex
Storm Nordwind: Hi Fefonz
Putty Broome: not a lot but ive been working for it for about a year now
Fefonz Quan: Hey Storm, Wol, Putty
Putty Broome: it wants to come down and join earth
Putty Broome: hi quan
Storm Nordwind: It is sentient?
Putty Broome: its already lowered itself a lot but we have to raise owr energy more
Fefonz Quan: Hi Scath :)
Putty Broome: it wants to help earth have smooth transition to 5th demension and feels it can help
Scathach Rhiadra: Hello Fefonz, Wol, Storm:)
Putty Broome: hi scat lol
Scathach Rhiadra: Hello Putty:)
Storm Nordwind: So how can knowledge of this help the average person? Or do people not really need to know?
Putty Broome: it will be the energy from it that will help but whe it comes it will be known
Storm Nordwind: Hi Scáth
Storm Nordwind: Then I guess we'll welcome it when it arrives :)
Fefonz Quan: wb ;)
Wol Euler: back
Putty Broome: it will be on west coast lol so you dont get it confused with other islands in the sky comming down
Scathach Rhiadra: wb:)
Wol Euler: hello scath, fefonz
Storm Nordwind: I wonder if I may have more rewarding things to do than watch islands in the sky...
Fefonz Quan: a hot cup of tea i suggest
Storm Nordwind: This is not to say that it would not benefit others of course
Storm Nordwind: mmm tea
Wol Euler rases her cup in salute.
Putty Broome: I dont know its a pretty amaising place to visit
Putty Broome: got a speacial arir
Putty Broome: air
Storm Nordwind nods

I wanted to try and bring the topic closer to Play as Being and the experimental ways of knowing that are Kira initiatives.

Storm Nordwind: It is nice to travel to fun places
Storm Nordwind: But where is the fun experienced I wonder?
Putty Broome: yes i dont usually like to astral travel but this place was enjoyable and peaceful no violence there
Fefonz Quan: sounds like Princeton ;-)
Wol Euler: if all perception is internal/mental ... sorry, I'm really dim today. Can't formulate it. Bah.
Storm Nordwind: !
Storm Nordwind: hehe!
Scathach Rhiadra: :)
Wol Euler lols and dribbles slightly down her chin
Putty Broome: its okay
Storm Nordwind: Poor Wol
Putty Broome: lol
Fefonz Quan: lol
Wol Euler: :(
Storm Nordwind puts a sympathetic arm around his friend Wol
Fefonz Quan: don't choke on us Wol :)
Wol Euler sigh and sniffles and reaches for another Kleenex
Storm Nordwind: So - what i was getting at (and perhaps what Wol was about to say) - is...
Storm Nordwind: if your experience of the place is within you, what is to stop you experiencing it without going anywhere?
Wol Euler: right :)
Storm Nordwind: When we feel cold we experience it inside ourselves, not outside
Storm Nordwind: When we see beauty we experience it inside ourselves, not outside
Storm Nordwind: So the potentiality for that experience is already there
Fefonz Quan: you should try Princeton too, where the cold can be outside as well :)
Storm Nordwind: hehe!
Wol Euler: :)
Scathach Rhiadra: :)
Storm Nordwind: But perhaps you can experience that beauty without travelling at all. Do you think that is possible?
Putty Broome: i dont know but have tried and just has not worked yet to do that seems i only get to go when it wants me there it is alittle bogas
Putty Broome: not sure who the wizard of oz is behind it all
Storm Nordwind smiles
Storm Nordwind: Perhaps you will find it is you, yourself, behind it! ;)
Wol Euler nods. After all, what did the wizard give to them? Nothing but the eyes to see what they already had.
Storm Nordwind: Yes indeed
Putty Broome: that would be a trip though island has told me arthur and all those from that myth are very real
Putty Broome: and alive still
Fefonz Quan: well, mythology has no need for time anyway
Storm Nordwind: Sure. I see these things too. But they are not the source of peace and happiness. They are finite and limited like all gods are finite and limited. They are not Being.
Putty Broome: that they are actually reincarnated on earth to
Putty Broome: but thats abit trippy
Storm Nordwind: I am happy that, through the techniques we practise in Play as Being, that I can tap into something more fundamental
Storm Nordwind: Something that is not transient
Storm Nordwind: Something that is always there
Storm Nordwind: Because that is all there is
Storm Nordwind is getting carried away and needs Wol's meds
Putty Broome: not sure think everything has seasons and times and flows even spirit
Wol Euler grins and holds out a handful of brightly coloured pills
Storm Nordwind: mmmm thank you Wol
Storm Nordwind grabs the water
Storm Nordwind: ptooey
Storm Nordwind: ick
Wol Euler giggles
Storm Nordwind: .
Scathach Rhiadra: :)
Wol Euler: that's why you need the tea after :-/
Storm Nordwind: more MSG on them please
Putty Broome: lol

So, fortified by medication, I attempted to make further sense of the conversation or see whether it was all the product of those brightly coloured pills. I enquired about the comment on seasons. It had echos of Daoism.

Storm Nordwind: Tell me Putty, why you think spirit has seasons.
Wol Euler: damn, I am really missing things today. (reads back)
Fefonz Quan: some spirits definitely does
Fefonz Quan: :)
Putty Broome: just feels that way we are a shodow of greater things makes sense the greater is similar to its child
Storm Nordwind places a healing light around Wol
Putty Broome: anywere in nater something doese not move it lacks life so it seems its lifes way to dance
Wol Euler smiles and nods a "thank you"
Storm Nordwind: It is a seductive thought Putty, and many millions of people have recognised that
Storm Nordwind: But others have tried to look further and see if there is not something that "is" without change. They too believe they have been successful!
Storm Nordwind: Something that is yet alive because it is life itself
Putty Broome: yeah god seems to place nuts everywhere
Putty Broome: lol
Storm Nordwind: nuts are for eating
Putty Broome: yes seems thats the purpose just food
Putty Broome: while we still need it
Wol Euler: we are all food for worms, if it comes to that.
Storm Nordwind: We are already the worms
Fefonz Quan: are we storm?
Putty Broome: well then i mist say god makes some sexy female worms did good job
Putty Broome: they even look great out of dirt
Storm Nordwind: Well what is a worm Fefonz?
Fefonz Quan: i don't know storm, try to guess what you mean. you didn't worm me in advance :)
Storm Nordwind groans
Storm Nordwind: oh!!!!
Storm Nordwind: .
Storm Nordwind: That's almost punny
Fefonz Quan: (hope i didn't sound punny, whtever punny means)
Storm Nordwind: fun with a pun
Fefonz Quan: ok
Putty Broome: i hear that will make you g blind be careful with that
Putty Broome: lol
Storm Nordwind: So what I meant was... it is possible (say some) to experience the bliss of there being no separation from anything or anyone. In that case there would be no barriers between what you conventionally call you and what you conventionally call a worm.
Putty Broome: would love to work with someone to make meditation series with that theme storm
Wol Euler: hello solo
Fefonz Quan: yes, but in a sense what would disappear is what you conventionally call you
Storm Nordwind: That's what we're doing here - potentially at least, Putty
Putty Broome: visualising the onness in very creative prosess
Wol Euler: like assimilating into the Borg.
Storm Nordwind: yes Fefonz
Putty Broome: i mean like in your mind visualising you are different animals and people even forses of nature
Fefonz Quan: you are a trekki, Wol
Fefonz Quan: :)
Storm Nordwind: But You still would exist
Wol Euler: nah, just picked that up somewhere.

Solo arrived, looking perhaps as though he'd been dragged through a hedge backwards!

Scathach Rhiadra: Hello Solo:)
Putty Broome: and make it very real and detailed to help people fell it deep in there soul
Fefonz Quan: Hey Solo :)
Storm Nordwind: Hi Solo
Wol Euler: Solo, is this casual Thursday? :-)
Storm Nordwind wonders if Solo had a bad night
Fefonz Quan: or a good night :)
Storm Nordwind: hehe!
Wol Euler: pity you weren't at the 1pm yesterday, we talked about why/how we chose our avs and what their appearance means to us
Solobill Laville smiles at everyone around the circle (work stuff in and out, sorry)
Storm Nordwind: Yes... kind of non-stop busy the last three days
Putty Broome: well i wanted to be nude on here but to many people got very upset was not worth it
Storm Nordwind: I will have to read the chat log Wol
Storm Nordwind: Very wise Putty.
Fefonz Quan: me too, droped in to what seemed a very fun session :)
Fefonz Quan: (to storm)
Putty Broome: but i do think its crazy we are animals clothes are just another way to make us feel disconnected to nature
Storm Nordwind: I've never found that personally Putty
Fefonz Quan: well, try walking out in the snow Putty
Putty Broome: i have you actually climatize if you do it as habit
Storm Nordwind: If clothes make you feel separate, then i suggest you learn to feel in other ways
Storm Nordwind smiles
Storm Nordwind gives Wol a last blast of healing
Fefonz Quan: with now cloth Putty?
Putty Broome: yes its very freeing practice
Wol Euler is warmed and grateful
Putty Broome: to be in like the woods or alone on beach but thats difficult to experience
Putty Broome: but makes you feel so connected to creation
Fefonz Quan: after 2 minutes you stop feeling anything at that temperature
Putty Broome: yeah i did not do it long but was fun
Storm Nordwind: It's nice. But impractical for me and many others. That's why I use meditative practices instead and they achieve the same thing at all times
Putty Broome: its only impractical cause people have divoped a happit of the oppasite
Wol Euler has done it in the course of a sauna session. It was , um, invigorating.
Fefonz Quan too
Storm Nordwind: If you lived in Scotland I suspect you would find it impractical too! :)
Putty Broome: yes maybe
Storm Nordwind would shiver
Putty Broome: hey then that would help all men feel egual lol
Storm Nordwind: No.
Fefonz Quan: the opposite Putty
Storm Nordwind: People will always find ways to be separate if they choose
Putty Broome: im teasing cause cold makes men all abit smaller
Putty Broome: like it would make them feel equalk that way
Putty Broome: just a joke
Fefonz Quan imagine a small naked dwarf stumbling slowly
Fefonz Quan: :)
Solobill Laville: Sorry folks, need to reboot, brb
Putty Broome: lol thanks for the visual lol no
Wol Euler: hb solo
Storm Nordwind: k Solo good luck
Fefonz Quan: tc Solo
Putty Broome: i need to be flying on to take care all
Storm Nordwind: Bye for now
Putty Broome: nice meeting you all
Fefonz Quan: Bye Putty
Scathach Rhiadra: bye Putty
Storm Nordwind: Keep to the maps :)
Wol Euler: bye putty, take care
Putty Broome: very interesting statment i think we have mysterious munk
Putty Broome: well be well
Scathach Rhiadra: brb
Storm Nordwind: you too

With our visitor gone, Wol commented on the conversation so far. I noticed I had only been partially successful in turning it to PaB related matters. Perhaps the effect of the brightly coloured pills had been more widespread than I'd thought.

Wol Euler: well, that was quite unusual.
Storm Nordwind: In what way Wol? ;)
Wol Euler: the content.
Fefonz Quan: would i understand more of it if i didn't miss the first 5 minutes?
Wol Euler: mmmm, possibly not :)
Wol Euler: maybe I am misjudging, being unfair.
Storm Nordwind falls over. Surely not Wol!
Wol Euler: oh it does happen :-/
Fefonz Quan: fairness is not a demand here, or is it?
Scathach Rhiadra: back
Storm Nordwind: welcome back
Wol Euler: wb scath
Wol Euler: well, yes actually I think it is.
Storm Nordwind: Courtesy is always appreciated. We judge ourselves in the end I suspect, and are our own arbiters
Fefonz Quan: somehow i don't like this word, but it may sound better in English
Wol Euler: perhaps not a formal one, but I think it is implied in the idea of feeling compassion for all creation.
Storm Nordwind nods to Wol
Fefonz Quan seconds compassion, fairness sound too sterile to me
Wol Euler: sorry, had another brain fart and lost the thread.
Storm Nordwind: Fairness has a lot of baggage, and more so justice
Scathach Rhiadra nods
Fefonz Quan: :)
Fefonz Quan: yes Storm

Wol reminded us that many of us had an imminent appointment at the Kira Cafe.

Wol Euler: I'd wanted to attend Stim's talk this afternoon but frankly I think it would be wasted on me. I'll have to read it later on
Storm Nordwind had forgotten
Storm Nordwind: Oh!
Storm Nordwind: 5 minutes
Wol Euler: mmhmm
Storm Nordwind ducks head in the pool
Storm Nordwind then ducks his own head in the pool
Fefonz Quan: ducks? where?
Storm Nordwind: How can you say that Fefonz with a wet head?
Wol Euler thinks of red wine and orange sauce.
Wol Euler: wb solo
Fefonz Quan: glup, glup glupglup
Storm Nordwind: Welcome back Solo
Scathach Rhiadra: wb Solo
Fefonz Quan: right Wol !
Storm Nordwind: We are just thinking of hightailing to Stim's session at the Cafe
Solobill Laville: Quite a crash here...let's go!!
Fefonz Quan: in the middle of the duck dish?
Storm Nordwind: I have a fan pointed at my machine against just such circumstances
Solobill Laville: Here Scath...when I type "/sca" this happens
Solobill Laville: Scátjh
Wol Euler: ooooh.
Fefonz Quan: /sca
Solobill Laville: :))
Storm Nordwind: An extra 'j'?
Wol Euler: he's just showing off :-)
Scathach Rhiadra: ha, that was my typo, there is no j:)
Wol Euler: ty
Wol Euler: awwwww
Solobill Laville: Oh!!! Thought that was Celtish or some such!! lol
Storm Nordwind: OK guys. I vote let's go!
Wol Euler: Scáth
Solobill Laville: delete those Wol and Fef, i'll update it
Fefonz Quan: /sca
Fefonz Quan: hehe
Wol Euler: already done mine :)
Scathach Rhiadra: yes, Scáth is
Solobill Laville: ok, let's be off
Storm Nordwind: Coming to the Cafe?
Wol Euler: let's go!
Fefonz Quan: yes, lets !
Wol Euler: dunno how long i will stay, but I'll give it a try