2009.02.07 19:00 - Present with the Air

I, Pema, was the Guardian for this meeting.  When I arrived, there was already a small crowd gathered.

Maxine Walden: hi Steve, Adams
Pema Pera: Hi everybody!
Maxine Walden: hi Riddle
Adams Rubble: Hello Everyone :)
Scathach Rhiadra: Hello Riddle, Adams
Pema Pera: just got the recorder to "restart" -- it seemed it didn't get started properly at first
Maxine Walden: I noticed that as well, Pema, re the autorecord
Riddle Sideways: Hi all
doug Sosa: full moon..?
Pema Pera: a couple more days, Doug . . .
stevenaia Michinaga: I used the claimed logs once and found it far more useful than I expected... thanks you programmer gurus
Pema Pera: mostly Fael and Wol, I believe
Riddle Sideways: I used it lasat week and it was really good
stevenaia Michinaga: pats them on the back
Pema Pera: I'm writing an email to Wol to report the malfunctioning
Riddle Sideways: but... it didn't add the comments for me
Adams Rubble: :)
Maxine Walden: right, Riddle!!
Scathach Rhiadra: may be something to do with SL

The conversation moved to Adams' beautiful exhibit.

Riddle Sideways: and I visited the Adams Art show today (a day late)

Scathach Rhiadra: earlier no one could tp out of here, or anywhere else

Adams Rubble: You need Faenik for the comments
Riddle Sideways: very nice display
Riddle Sideways: squee is adding comments too
Adams Rubble: :)
Pema Pera: yes, a wonderful job, and a labor of love
Maxine Walden: yes, very nice art exhibition
Adams Rubble: Hook them to the autorecorder
Adams Rubble blushes
Riddle Sideways: amazing the energy people have put into SL replicas
Riddle Sideways: of amasing architecture
Adams Rubble: yes
Riddle Sideways: *z
Pema Pera: hi Stim!
Adams Rubble: Hi Stim
Stim Morane: Hi everyone!
Scathach Rhiadra: Hi Stim
Maxine Walden: hi, Stim
Riddle Sideways: hi stim
Pema Pera: Hey Adelene, good seeing you again!!
Adelene Dawner: hi!
Adams Rubble: Hi Adelene
stevenaia Michinaga: hello de
Riddle Sideways: hi adelene
stevenaia Michinaga: Ade
Riddle Sideways: nice av
Adelene Dawner: thanks ^.^
Scathach Rhiadra: Hi Adeline
Maxine Walden: hi, Adelene
Stim Morane: Hi Adelene
Pema Pera: yes, very impressive av
Pema Pera: would love to see you fly!

Riddle captured the spirit of all the exclamations :-)

Riddle Sideways: this hour shall pass with us only saying hello
doug Sosa: :)
Pema Pera: clap clap clap!!!
Stim Morane: :)
stevenaia Michinaga: making room Ade?
Riddle Sideways: very impressive
Adelene Dawner: ^.^
Riddle Sideways: Hi Pila
Maxine Walden: yes, Adeline, very impressive
Adams Rubble: Hi Pila
Stim Morane: Hi Pila
Pila Mulligan: hello (Pila's stuck, as is often the case:)
Pema Pera: This is my third session today, it's great to finally find some time to come more regularly :-)
Pema Pera: I've been totally swamped the last couple weeks . . . .
doug Sosa: the cosmos is active?
Pema Pera: presumably
Maxine Walden: third session today, Pema?!! That is impressive as well
Pema Pera: Kira has required quite a bit of time, but the results have been very gratifying
Pema Pera: we now have seven weekly workshops (including one by Maxine)
Pema Pera: it is becoming like a kind of small college
Pema Pera: also, we're gearing up for the 12th birthday celebrations of Kira, on February 24
Pema Pera: Hi Boo! Feel free to join us
Riddle Sideways: wow, 12 years
Maxine Walden: have seen the notices about the celebration
doug Sosa: hi.
Pema Pera: Have you been here before, Boobewy?
boobewy Bloobury: No, I don't think so
Pema Pera: We get together a few times a day to chat about the nature of reality, and everything else, and we have a wiki http://playasbeing.wik.is/ -- We record our conversations there. Do you mind being included in our blogs?
boobewy Bloobury: I guess I don't mind
Pema Pera: thanks!
Riddle Sideways: sorry folks, brb
boobewy Bloobury: So conversations are recorded here?
Pema Pera: yes, and we put them up at our web site
Pema Pera: the one I just gave
doug Sosa: language is wonderful. "do you mind?" [minding] no, i don'tmind [aking a judgement by mind]
Maxine Walden: yes, doug
boobewy Bloobury: How long you've been doin the website?
Pema Pera: for about a year now
Pema Pera: we have more than a thousand sessions on there

Steve asked about Kira events.

stevenaia Michinaga: Pema, will you continue to posting the logs of the Events at the Kira Cafe on the Kira website?
Pema Pera: yes, Steve, why?
Pema Pera: where you looking for something in particular?
stevenaia Michinaga: there do not seem to be recent one's listed
stevenaia Michinaga: 1/14 was the last
stevenaia Michinaga: http://www.kira.org/index.php?option...=84&Itemid=114
Pema Pera: http://www.kira.org/index.php?option...121&Itemid=151 is from three days ago
Pema Pera: I guess they are under workshops
stevenaia Michinaga: hmm, seems to be a dificult site to navigate
Pema Pera: I'll ask Genesis to see whether we can make things clearer
stevenaia Michinaga: thank you
Pema Pera: Boo, as you can see, sometimes we are quite quiet here :-)
Pema Pera: oops
Maxine Walden: too quiet for some tastes perhaps
Adams Rubble: some of us may be sleeping :)
Pema Pera: hahaha, yes, I was about to explain why we record . . .
Maxine Walden: the silence is actually quite nice, being among friends all just 'being' together
doug Sosa: the winged cat purrs?
Adelene Dawner: of course ^.^
Maxine Walden: Pila, seems you got unstuck!

I tried to steer the conversation to PaB explorations.

Pema Pera: Has anybody been working with appearances lately?
Pila Mulligan: I wish, Maxine :) immobilized avi (and with mobile broadband no less)
doug Sosa: yes. as maurice chevalier said, "appearances are everything"
doug Sosa: which forced me to take apperances more seriously, if that is all (sic) there is!
doug Sosa: and talking to some philosophers - if we strip outrinerpretations, we are left with "presence" which is such a gift.
Adams Rubble: Hello Corvi :)
Pema Pera: Hi Corvi!
Corvuscorva Nightfire: Hi all
doug Sosa: :)
Pema Pera: Hi Riddle, are you back too?
Stim Morane: Hi Corvi!
Scathach Rhiadra: Hi Corvi
Maxine Walden: hi, Corvi
Stim Morane: Hi Riddle
Pema Pera: I guess Riddle is still afk :)
Pema Pera: Yes, Doug, presence is amazing, once we can learn to focus on it, to see it
Pema Pera: how do you "strip" away interpretations, though?
doug Sosa: naming htem helps. "this is a glass.glass is made from sand.it is for wine,wine is red..." and then we can dropall these attributions and be with the presence of the glass,which is much larger now freed from attributions.
Pema Pera: interesting -- so reinforcing the interpretations in order to be in a better position to drop them? Know thy enemy?
doug Sosa: I am in a seminar with Hans Gumbrecht who wrote The Production of Presence: what meaning cannot convey.
doug Sosa: not reinforcing i don't think ,just letting teelerge, like those baloons in cartoons,and let themfloat away.
Pema Pera: teelerge?
doug Sosa: teelerge= ??
doug Sosa: them emerge..? yes.
Pema Pera: :)
Adams Rubble: :)
Pema Pera: attention can be liberating, yes . . .
doug Sosa: it is an activeprocess of getting to appearace, if apperance=presence..

Presence is such a central theme for Play as Being, with the 9 sec reminding us of presence each time.

Pema Pera: the way I like to use the words (which is partly arbitrary, just labels) is to say:
Pema Pera: appreciate the presence of appearance
Pema Pera: i.e.: something appears, let us drop all interpretation, and then we only are left with the fact *that* it appears, not *what* appears
Pema Pera: only left with the presence of appearance
Pema Pera: nothing more
Maxine Walden: right, Pila, no it looks to us, or to me, that you are just standing beyond the circle, but seeming to be very present for the group
doug Sosa: yes. yesterday i was reading a lot of economics, went to the door, opened, and was present with the air. Just beautiful.
Pema Pera: but this doesn't mean that we have to force ourselves to try to deny/forget/ignore the usual interpretations -- rather that we make sure not to be stuck to them
Pema Pera: yes, Doug
Pema Pera: that's close to the kind of thing I was trying to point to
doug Sosa: with the air came the world of complexappeances, the hillside,the new geeen,the birds, the space, the time, the breath..
Maxine Walden: good, Pila, maybe you can then feel a part of the conversaiton as well
Maxine Walden: sorry, all, was writing an IM to Pila, but it 'appeared' in the general conversation
Pema Pera: :-)
Adams Rubble: It happens to us all Maxine
Pema Pera: appearances are amazing . . ..
Maxine Walden: aren't they!

I mentioned the Chronicles project, to write about the history of Play as Being, that Adams had started a while ago.

Pema Pera: Adams and Corvi, may I ask about the PaB Chronicles project . . . ?
Pema Pera just being curious . . .
Corvuscorva Nightfire smiles at Adams...sure...
Adams Rubble: Corvi was working on getting me to be serious today :)
Pema Pera: how's it going?
Pila Mulligan: Pila is semi-appearing :)
Pema Pera: the whole day???
Adams Rubble: hehe
Corvuscorva Nightfire laughs and smiles..no..just an hour or so.
Corvuscorva Nightfire: a Leeeetle bit of serious.
Adams Rubble gets out her pencil
Pema Pera: but seriously :) how's it going?
Adams Rubble: It's going to move now
Adams Rubble: Just a case of writer's block
Adams Rubble: and misplaced pencils
Corvuscorva Nightfire grins.
Adams Rubble balances the pencil on her nose
Pema Pera: Hey, 3D, long time no see!
Adams Rubble: Hi Threedee
Maxine Walden: yes, 3D good to see the old lion
Stim Morane: Hi Threedee
Threedee Shepherd: hi folks. Pema, I tend to come at this hour
Maxine Walden: yes, guess I am the one who is infrequent at thistime
Pema Pera: While I was in Japan, this was not too convenient an hour for me
Pema Pera: but this is my first week back in NYC
Maxine Walden: different appearances for a moment there depending on our perspective

We talked about the question of which slots to attend, of all the many sessions of PaB.

doug Sosa: i am trying to figure which hour i should make convenient.
Pema Pera: Originally, I thought that four meetings a day must make it convenient for anyone anywhere to attend at least one session a day -- but in Japan, without daylight saving time at least, the times were 6 am, 12 noon, 6 pm, midnight: sleep, lunch, dinner, sleep -- not easy sometimes to find any slot free!
Pema Pera: in New York, it is much better: 10 am, 4 pm, 10 pm, all easy to do
Pema Pera: perhaps we should randomize the times each day :-) instead of regularly every 6 hours
Pema Pera: Pila walking on water . . . .
doug Sosa: in calif they are at brakfast garden work dinner and sleep.so it takes a real intent.
Maxine Walden: yes, wondering about that 'appearance'
Maxine Walden: of Pila
Adams Rubble: I must go. Good night everyone :)
doug Sosa: 8. bye quietly
Corvuscorva Nightfire: G'night, Adams.
Stim Morane: Bye Adams
Corvuscorva Nightfire: Doug
Scathach Rhiadra: night Adams
Pema Pera: It's time for me too
Pema Pera: Good seeing y'all !
Pila Mulligan: Maxine tells me my avi is moving, pardon me, I cannot see it or anyting -- just watching the chat :)
Scathach Rhiadra: night Pema
Pema Pera: night (or something) everybody!
Stim Morane: Yes, I must go too. Goodnight everyone!
Maxine Walden: yes, Pila has been listening but unable to see any of us; another aspect of appearance or non-, perhaps
Scathach Rhiadra: night Stim
Maxine Walden: yes, goodnight all
Scathach Rhiadra: good night all:)
stevenaia Michinaga: would hate to leave Riddle alone here
stevenaia Michinaga: night all
Threedee Shepherd: hi and bye
stevenaia Michinaga: (ok, I don;t feel that bad about it)
Adelene Dawner: 'night Steve
Corvuscorva Nightfire laughs..night, Steve.
Threedee Shepherd: lets the three of us go somewhere and chat
Corvuscorva Nightfire nods.
Adelene Dawner: ^.^
Corvuscorva Nightfire: Ann, your place?
Riddle Sideways: sorry folks had to take that call
Threedee Shepherd: ok, I just stopped in for a bit. g'night
Riddle Sideways: thanks for staying, but I could have napped here
Riddle Sideways: by self
Corvuscorva Nightfire: Gight, Riddle..hehehe
Riddle Sideways: night all