2009.02.08 01:00 - Being SL

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    Moon Fargis: morning susi
    Moon Fargis: morning fael
    Fael Illyar: Morning Moon, Susi, Adele :)
    Fael Illyar woke up three minutes ago.
    Adelene Dawner: ^.^ 'morning, all
    Moon Fargis: oi
    Susi Alcott: morning Ade, Fael, Moon
    Fael Illyar: without an alarm, after 5 and half hours of sleep :P
    Moon Fargis: wasnt it weekend wich where there to sleep longer ?
    Susi Alcott: _/!\_
    Fael Illyar: now to wake up enough to do something :) ... reading the text takes effort :P
    Moon Fargis: ^^
    Susi Alcott: _/!\_
    Moon Fargis giggles cutely.
    Moon Fargis: ahh thank your for the anim fael
    Fael Illyar: There we go :)
    Fael Illyar: You're welcome Moon :)
    Moon Fargis purrzzzzzzzzz
    Moon Fargis: ^^ so how is everyone today?
    Susi Alcott: anybody seeing the no 7 for our positions now ?
    Fael Illyar: sleeeeepy. :)
    Susi Alcott: _/!\_
    Moon Fargis: hehe nurmber 7 hmm i would say its a C or a U
    Susi Alcott: interesting
    Moon Fargis tickles adelene behind her ears
    Susi Alcott: C....see...U...you...
    Susi Alcott: I'm looking us from back
    Moon Fargis: ahh ok yes
    Fael Illyar looked at the time with a bit of a o.O; like expression after waking up but decided to come since she could just make it.
    Moon Fargis: ^^
    Fael Illyar: not the first 1am meeting I've woken up to, with too little sleep and without alrm :)
    Fael Illyar: this week
    Moon Fargis: well alarm.. hmmm:)
    Moon Fargis humms cutely.
    Moon Fargis: someone where asleep?
    Moon Fargis: ha!
    Fael Illyar: uh, please don't rez that right on my camera :P
    Moon Fargis giggles cutely.
    Susi Alcott: _/!\_
    Moon Fargis: hmm btw i finished my prostration animation now too fael
    Moon Fargis: i think when isen sees it.. he will come
    Moon Fargis: hahaha
    Susi Alcott: _/!\_
    Fael Illyar: haha :)
    Moon Fargis: well ofcourse motion capturing would be beter..
    Fael Illyar: I guess qavnimatior doesn't bezier interpolation for the movements?
    Moon Fargis: ah it does
    Moon Fargis: just have to find out how :)
    Fael Illyar: ... right, blender uses that by default :)
    Fael Illyar: much smoother moves :)
    Moon Fargis: well i added somepauses manually so maybe thats why its a bit choppy
    Moon Fargis: ahh ahh! i forgot my tea
    Fael Illyar: making this final version of this animation, much of the work had to be done twice, some even thrice since I forgot to check that it looks ok on the AV before adding mroe complex work on top of the basic pose.
    Moon Fargis: yes the av tends to to things on its own when some parts are not animated from their default positions
    Fael Illyar: no, I didn't have that problem :)
    Fael Illyar: just problems twisting things a bit too much that didn't look nice :)
    Fael Illyar: well, the legs might still be sllightly tilted too much but ... :)
    Moon Fargis: hmm no its ok
    Moon Fargis: hmm.. a few days i bought chocolate
    Moon Fargis: +ago
    Moon Fargis: i thought ... "comon lets buy something really good"
    Moon Fargis: so i decided to buy chocolate with much cacao inside
    Moon Fargis: and i went to go insane and bought the one with 99% cacao
    Fael Illyar: dark chcolate?
    Fael Illyar: ... yes, very dark choco :P
    Moon Fargis: hmhm i think this will now hold for years now here :)
    Moon Fargis: its nearly uneatable :)
    Adelene Dawner: mmhmm
    Fael Illyar: I've heard it'll take some getting used to :)
    Adelene Dawner: 80% is about my limit
    Fael Illyar: 80% is the max I've tried :)
    Fael Illyar: oh wait, might be 85%
    Fael Illyar: still liked it though :)
    Adelene Dawner: *shrug*
    Moon Fargis: hi tamrel
    Moon Fargis: tarmel
    Fael Illyar: Hi Tarmel :)
    Susi Alcott: hi Tarmel
    Adelene Dawner yaaaawns.
    Tarmel Udimo: hi all :-)
    Adelene Dawner: It is definitely past my bedtime.
    Moon Fargis: ˙·•| mmh *nods* |•·˙
    Fael Illyar blinks 'Oh, Tarmel looks different from usual.'
    Adelene Dawner: I think I need to go try being horizontal in RL for a while.
    Fael Illyar smiles.
    Adelene Dawner: cya later, all.
    Moon Fargis: good night adelene :)
    Tarmel Udimo: bye ade
    Fael Illyar: See you later Adele :)
    Moon Fargis purrzzzzzzzzz
    Susi Alcott: _/!\_
    Tarmel Udimo: yes tarmel have new hat
    Fael Illyar is here using animation she finished making yesterday.
    Moon Fargis: hmhmm
    Fael Illyar: (started yesterday too)
    Tarmel Udimo: hey moon - new face :-)
    Moon Fargis: ^^
    Moon Fargis: yes
    Tarmel Udimo: small cupid?
    Moon Fargis: ˙·•| mmh *nods* |•·˙
    Fael Illyar: Well, look at what he did to me :P
    Moon Fargis: haha
    Tarmel Udimo: what hugging susi?
    Moon Fargis: hm i think i can test out your anim fael :)
    Tarmel Udimo: nice thanks moon
    Moon Fargis: ^^
    Fael Illyar smiles.
    Moon Fargis: verry nice work fael :)
    Susi Alcott: _/!\_
    Tarmel Udimo: a fael animation ?
    Moon Fargis: yes ^^
    Tarmel Udimo: hummm
    Moon Fargis: Fael animation corp.
    Fael Illyar: my first animated animation. (as opposed t just static pose)
    Moon Fargis: morning ergo :)
    Ergo Blaisdale: good mogning
    Fael Illyar: Hello Ergo :)
    Ergo Blaisdale: morning*
    Susi Alcott: hi Ergo
    Ergo Blaisdale: where are we?
    Tarmel Udimo: hi ergo
    Moon Fargis: youre at the play as being pavilion and actually sinking in the ground
    Tarmel Udimo: :-)
    Tarmel Udimo: trying to sit ergo?
    Susi Alcott: please take a sit and you shall not go into the ground
    Moon Fargis: we meet here 4 times a day to talk about a practise of a new kind of self awareness
    Fael Illyar: (and sometimes are rather playful)
    Moon Fargis: its open to everyone and we record our meetings to post the logs on the webside
    Moon Fargis: is it ok to include your name ?
    Ergo Blaisdale: sure it is
    Susi Alcott: you can also click the pillow and have the man sit
    Tarmel Udimo: thanks for the hug moooooooooon
    Ergo Blaisdale: I am happy here. I feel good here
    Moon Fargis: my pleasure tarmel :)
    Susi Alcott: _/!\_
    Fael Illyar smiles.
    Ergo Blaisdale: I was brought here by a hot air balloon. it's very peaceful, and you all are glowing
    Ergo Blaisdale: :)
    Moon Fargis: ^^
    Tarmel Udimo: by the way before I forget are the pics the one sees at the log in site actual places in SL?
    Tarmel Udimo: opps didn't mean to do that :-)
    Moon Fargis: one sec let me see
    Fael Illyar: which pictures?
    Moon Fargis: ergo: http://playasbeing.wik.is/ this is the side where we collect the logs and more
    Tarmel Udimo: there's one that I really want to visit - its raining and there are swans and a run down pond...
    Fael Illyar: aah, they most likely are from real SL sites.
    Susi Alcott: that is real
    Tarmel Udimo: where is it?
    Susi Alcott: I dont know but you can IM to Iwan Balogh; he knows
    Tarmel Udimo: there's a yellow cab/taxi on street
    Fael Illyar: although, whether those sites still exist is another matter :)
    Tarmel Udimo: is he the designer?
    Susi Alcott: no but I know that he knows where that place is
    Fael Illyar: not the designer, he has his own place though :)
    Susi Alcott: and he is also a person willing to help people
    Tarmel Udimo: okay, how do I IM someone with out their notecard?
    Susi Alcott: so I'm sure he'll give you the LM
    Moon Fargis: use the search
    Moon Fargis: and search for the name
    Tarmel Udimo: I'll sit abit closer ergo
    Tarmel Udimo: okay
    Moon Fargis: on the profile you can im im
    Tarmel Udimo: ty
    Moon Fargis: him
    Fael Illyar: Hi Star :)
    Moon Fargis: good morning star
    Fael Illyar: Hi Ayla :)
    Moon Fargis: hi ayla
    Tarmel Udimo: hi sun
    Tarmel Udimo: hi ayla
    Stargate Tone: Hello all
    Ayla Lexenstar: hi Tarmel
    Susi Alcott: hi Ayla
    Ayla Lexenstar: not sure how this area is in my landmarks
    Ayla Lexenstar: have never been here before lol
    Moon Fargis: hehe
    Fael Illyar: perhaps someone gave it to you :)
    Ergo Blaisdale: same here
    Ayla Lexenstar: maybe lol
    Moon Fargis: youre at the play as being pavilion
    Moon Fargis: we meet here 4 times a day to talk about a practise of a new kind of self awareness
    Moon Fargis: its open to everyone and we record our meetings to post the logs on the webside
    Ayla Lexenstar: i see
    Ayla Lexenstar: interesting
    Tarmel Udimo: hi ayla, I might have given it to you.
    Moon Fargis: http://playasbeing.wik.is/ this is the side where we collect the logs and more
    Ayla Lexenstar: i don't recognize your name Tarmel
    Moon Fargis: is it ok to include your name ?
    Ayla Lexenstar: sure
    Tarmel Udimo: did you show me the stupa in the sky?
    Ayla Lexenstar: I don't know what a stupa is lol
    Ayla Lexenstar: pretty new to second life
    Tarmel Udimo: okay not you.. no worries
    Tarmel Udimo: anyone have a topic?
    Moon Fargis: so this kind of self awareness practise is more or less that we stop for 9 seconds every 15 minutes and "look" try to be aware what we are doing, some drop their thoughts for that time or drop their definition of therms.. something like a 9 second mini meditation in mind
    Moon Fargis: wb star
    Fael Illyar: wb Star :)
    Fael Illyar: just call it a 9 second pause from everything :)
    Stargate Tone: thank you
    Moon Fargis: mostly we enjoy also silence .)
    Ergo Blaisdale: I have to leave now everybody
    Ergo Blaisdale: thank you for being cool
    Ayla Lexenstar: nice meeting you
    Moon Fargis: ^^ was nice to meet you ergo
    Fael Illyar: Sure, have fun Ergo. Do try to come again if this seemed interesting :)
    Susi Alcott: :_/!\_
    Ergo Blaisdale: nice to meet all of you
    Ergo Blaisdale: this was certainly interesting
    Ergo Blaisdale: I will try to wind up here again :)
    Fael Illyar smiles.
    Tarmel Udimo: would you like a LM?
    Ergo Blaisdale: hehe no thank you. it's funner when I find it by chance
    Tarmel Udimo: okay ;-)
    Ergo Blaisdale: bye everyone
    Susi Alcott: _/!\_
    Stargate Tone: bye
    Tarmel Udimo: bye
    Tarmel Udimo: stargate I notice you have been in SL since 2006
    Tarmel Udimo: was it quite different?
    Stargate Tone: not so much lags when I was born
    Stargate Tone: but sure the world is 'just the same'
    Stargate Tone: sure there's improvments how things looks like and so
    Fael Illyar: I've also heard that at the time, if something didn't work, pretty much everything went down.
    Stargate Tone: but meaning that there's always been different kind of people
    Stargate Tone: and sure the world is such kind as what kind of people there is :)***
    Ayla Lexenstar: i've crashed a few times already from SL
    Tarmel Udimo: yes always :-)
    Ayla Lexenstar: freezes up
    Stargate Tone: those times it was hard times only for the certain wendesdays
    Fael Illyar: Ayla, yes, that's the viewer crashing :) I'm talking the servers having problems. Lately it's just something specific not working and most things still working. Back then I hear things tended to break everywhere at once.
    Stargate Tone: when there was the cut for few hours that nobody could log in
    Stargate Tone: for the iprovements by LIndenlab
    Tarmel Udimo: I actually logged in around 2006, but my computer was too slow and I got frustrated and didn't come back
    Tarmel Udimo: also there was no PaB
    Stargate Tone: but it was only for a while ; not all the time as it's been after huge much more people was born here
    Tarmel Udimo: yes
    Ayla Lexenstar: how did everyone find SL?
    Moon Fargis: hmmm on the net .heard from friends .. saw it also on tv
    Ayla Lexenstar: i saw it on a story from 20/20
    Stargate Tone: I was helped to log in with my RL friend
    Ayla Lexenstar: had to check it out
    Tarmel Udimo: yes heard about and tried
    Fael Illyar: one of my friends kept talking about it for 6 months and I finally tried :)
    Stargate Tone: btw; many of my friends told those days that SL shall creash completely cuz of so many people came in
    Fael Illyar: very glad I did :)'
    Tarmel Udimo: And have you noticed any effects on you in RL having been on that long
    Stargate Tone: but I said that SL has special support from my called upstairs office, that it shall not crash for that
    Fael Illyar: the normal pessimism, ignoring certain things that affect that.
    Fael Illyar: no upstairs office needed to explain it even :)
    Fael Illyar: it's just simply that when things don't work, people go away, thus reducing the crowd and allowing it to work for those who are more patient :)
    Ayla Lexenstar: patience is a virtue as they say :)
    Fael Illyar: we all have patience for something :)
    Ayla Lexenstar: lol
    Ayla Lexenstar: more should show patience and compassion
    Fael Illyar: the question is just for what :)
    Stargate Tone: in case you Tarmel mean that if I myelf have changes for SL, the answer is no
    Tarmel Udimo: I mean has it had an effect on you in RL and how you 'see' things
    Stargate Tone: the answer to that is also no
    Ayla Lexenstar: how are you doing that Tarmel?
    Ayla Lexenstar: cool
    Tarmel Udimo: it was a gift from susi
    Ayla Lexenstar: so is it considered a gesture?
    Ayla Lexenstar: an aura almost
    Ayla Lexenstar: lol
    Ayla Lexenstar: thank you
    Tarmel Udimo: yes its called aura
    Fael Illyar: it's named aura I think :)
    Tarmel Udimo: is it okay if I pass it on susi?
    Susi Alcott: Aura Generator
    Susi Alcott: I did
    Tarmel Udimo: ty
    Ayla Lexenstar: that is neat tyvm
    Susi Alcott: and sure you are aloud to foreward it too
    Susi Alcott: _/!\_
    Ayla Lexenstar: time to shop now , have a good night everyone
    Moon Fargis: night ayla
    Ayla Lexenstar: hope to see you again!
    Tarmel Udimo: bye ayla
    Tarmel Udimo: come again
    Fael Illyar: Good night Ayla :)
    Ayla Lexenstar: goodnight
    Stargate Tone: want to be more specific for that 'no'; that it is not changed things in my RL , but sure the contacts with people that has come to my life has the meaning
    Tarmel Udimo: okay
    Tarmel Udimo: yes that is huge
    Fael Illyar: I'd call that change to RL :)
    Stargate Tone: but...well...as I speak a lot of the upstairs office
    Tarmel Udimo: sometimes I for a split sec think I am in SL and I am in RL :-)
    Moon Fargis: well when sl wouldnt be some really nice trip to finland wouldnt happen in my life
    Moon Fargis: i know alot who just found their lifepartner in sl
    Moon Fargis: for rl
    Tarmel Udimo: yes moon?
    Moon Fargis: yeps
    Stargate Tone: I take that I'm not the only one who takes that to exist and guide people
    Tarmel Udimo: upstairs office?
    Stargate Tone: well; that's how I call 'it'
    Tarmel Udimo: by the way how do you set the range on the dots/aura?
    Susi Alcott: dont know that it could be done
    Tarmel Udimo: SL=upstairs office?
    Stargate Tone: meaning that SL is one of them ways that people around the world can meet each other
    Stargate Tone: so I mean that SL itself has has not been 'the issue', but the way; the possibility
    Tarmel Udimo: understand
    Stargate Tone: that there would've been some other i-net group that would've do that if there was no SL
    Stargate Tone: that 'game' itself has not made any difference
    Tarmel Udimo: okay
    Stargate Tone: ...well...and in case...it's only been harder here than in some i-net group
    Tarmel Udimo: harder?
    Stargate Tone: U C; I knew that I was born here for 'work'
    Tarmel Udimo: okay
    Stargate Tone: harder because in SL people seem to have 'more reasons' to lie for example
    Fael Illyar: SL allows more kinds of communication than more taditinal internet groups
    Tarmel Udimo: oh
    Fael Illyar: traditional
    Tarmel Udimo: you mean like being a woman and having a female AV?
    Tarmel Udimo: sorry male AV:-)
    Stargate Tone: well; you may create also male or female name in other kind of groups too
    Moon Fargis: or being a male and having a woman av
    Tarmel Udimo: yeah mooooooooooooooooon
    Stargate Tone: I do mean 'more clear' kles than that
    Stargate Tone: lies
    Tarmel Udimo: yes?
    Stargate Tone: well...what is a lie...there's always male and female in each person
    Fael Illyar: in this environment, gender doesn't actually have any other significance than what people think it has. :)
    Stargate Tone: but what is the meaning why one crates the opposite name or Av
    Tarmel Udimo: true I was trying to assess your meaning?
    Fael Illyar: at least if you just talk of AV gender
    Stargate Tone: how one uses that; it's more possible to get benefit in SL for the looks and so
    Tarmel Udimo: Moon uses AVs to create joy :-)
    Tarmel Udimo: well we can try to be other than we are, but often the gender energy still comes through
    Stargate Tone: and when ever one crates what ever shape in order to help other people; that's sure more than ok
    Tarmel Udimo: no matter how different we appear
    Stargate Tone: but there's also much drama for the 'wrong' sex ....becase there is this 'other kind of spirit' in SL
    Moon Fargis purrrrrrsssssssss
    Tarmel Udimo: what do you mean?
    Tarmel Udimo: ****Howlllzzzzzzzz****
    Tarmel Udimo: ****Howlllzzzzzzzz****
    Tarmel Udimo: nice kitty
    Moon Fargis: ˙·•| miaaauuuu |•·˙
    Tarmel Udimo: needs a bit work that meow.... :-)
    Stargate Tone: as there's happened also that people have fell in love thinking the other person to be male or female
    Tarmel Udimo: lets hear it again
    Tarmel Udimo: not good
    Fael Illyar humms cutely.
    Moon Fargis purrrrrrsssssssss
    Stargate Tone: and the truth has come out too late
    Moon Fargis: *meow meow*
    Tarmel Udimo: tarmel remembering her two beautiful cats that are no longer with her iin cat form
    Tarmel Udimo: but do occasionally visit in spirit
    Susi Alcott: _/!\_
    Fael Illyar smiles.
    Tarmel Udimo: yes that would be no fun to discover an untruth abut the love of your life....
    Tarmel Udimo: Hey!
    Tarmel Udimo: tramel laughing
    Tarmel Udimo: tarmel
    Tarmel Udimo: tarmel no longer sad
    Moon Fargis: ^.^
    Susi Alcott: _/!\_
    Tarmel Udimo: smiles
    Stargate Tone: I met once such person who said that 'we never think that some person in SL could die'
    Tarmel Udimo: ?
    Tarmel Udimo: ty moon
    Stargate Tone: he was building a grave to he's friend
    Stargate Tone: who died ih her RL
    Tarmel Udimo: don't know how to hug moon
    Stargate Tone: but I 'met' that very early in my life in SL
    Stargate Tone: oh; somebody pls give a hug to Tarmel
    Moon Fargis: actually doing :)
    Stargate Tone: mine is so bad; laggy
    Stargate Tone: which would be to transfir
    Tarmel Udimo: yes someone give me a hug ;-)
    Moon Fargis: ok then please stand up :)
    Moon Fargis: awns a bit too small :)
    Moon Fargis: woohhoow
    Tarmel Udimo: yes woooohooo
    Tarmel Udimo: ty moon
    Tarmel Udimo: there there little one
    Stargate Tone: so...thinking that in case you ment me to tell if I'de like to advise people to come to SL or not; I would invite people here but with strong warnings
    Tarmel Udimo: yes it sounds like you have been deceived
    Stargate Tone: because almost everything can be much stronger experiencies in SL
    Tarmel Udimo: which is bad enough in RL, without it happening in SL...
    Tarmel Udimo: I have been lucky so far - most regulars to PaB are great
    Tarmel Udimo: and i tend to hang out in buddhist places
    Susi Alcott: _/!\_
    Tarmel Udimo: so most people are at least trying :-)
    Fael Illyar: I haven't met a genuinely bad person in SL yet.
    Tarmel Udimo: to be awake or aware
    Fael Illyar: nor in RL.
    Tarmel Udimo: I haven't met really bad people but I have met very emotionally unhealthy people
    Stargate Tone: rememberting them two persons in early of my life in SL who tried to rubb me, kill me, but soon they turned to be my bodyguards :)***
    Tarmel Udimo: gosh were you in a game environment
    Stargate Tone: enviroment = ?
    Tarmel Udimo: a game sim?
    Stargate Tone: I was on my own property....if that's what you mean
    Fael Illyar: Well, yes, emotionally unhealthy people you can find, yes ... almost everyone seems to have some of that.
    Stargate Tone: there persons attacked few times before I could calm myself to know what to do
    Tarmel Udimo: humm some more than others fael
    Stargate Tone: cuz I'm no pc person at all
    Fael Illyar: of course :)
    Tarmel Udimo: what happens? you couldn't just teleport
    Stargate Tone: but I didn't want to escape them, but help them to understand that there way to play was wrong
    Stargate Tone: sure I could, but I wanted to help those persons
    Tarmel Udimo: hummm and the attack were they pushing your AV around?
    Stargate Tone: they had guns and so
    Stargate Tone: then they tried the 'normla threat' like ppl in RL do
    Stargate Tone: that they shall harm me
    Tarmel Udimo: no good
    Stargate Tone: but as well there's the rules in SL ; one's pc can be blocked out of the game
    Stargate Tone: so that would be harm back; so these persons didn't understand that they cam motionally hurt people in true
    Tarmel Udimo: right and where is the eject button?
    Stargate Tone: no matter one can buy a new pc or not to get chatched for abuse and make a new account and so
    Stargate Tone: that is yes, but I have never used it
    Stargate Tone: and only few times I myself have banned somebody
    Tarmel Udimo: hey little bear needing a sit down
    Moon Fargis: ˙·•| mmh *nods* |•·˙
    Stargate Tone: cuz that may give even more troubles
    Stargate Tone: one caomes back with other Av
    Tarmel Udimo: right
    Stargate Tone: but I've also seen a list of punishments
    Tarmel Udimo: byb want to find name of book to tell susi about
    Stargate Tone: that ppl have been banned from SL for some while
    Moon Fargis: ok my friends i will end the pab loggin at this point as i have to go sadly
    Susi Alcott: _/!\_

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