2009.02.22 07:00 - Dance of Love

Adams Rubble was the guardian and provided the comments

I arrived first and sat alone for almost 15 minutes until I was joined first by a stranger and then by Doug. Doug and I give him a brief introduction and he thanks us politely and moves on. The rest of the session we dance from topic to topic and come back almost full circle

Adams Rubble Hello stranger
Stranger: hello
Stranger: so what are you doing?
Adams Rubble Hello Doug :)
doug Sosa: hi
Adams Rubble This is a PlayasBeing group meeting
Adams Rubble You can pick up a note card about us at one of the information posts around the outside of the pavilion
Stranger: thanks
Adams Rubble We get together 4 times a day to discuss our practice
Stranger: practice?
Adams Rubble We stop every 15 minutes and meditate for 9 seconds
Adams Rubble The important thing is the stopping
Stranger: why is that?
doug Sosa: and report on our experience.
Adams Rubble To pause and think about what we are
Adams Rubble as opposed to what we are doing
Adams Rubble You are welcome to join us if you like
doug Sosa: sure take a seat.
Stranger: I'm good. Thanks though
Adams Rubble That was the bell for the 15 minutes
doug Sosa: its just us.
Adams Rubble Yes, he left
Adams Rubble Not a big crowd this morning
doug Sosa: a lot bigger than a few minute ago, twice as big :)
Adams Rubble hehe
Adams Rubble What have you been up to Doug?
Adams Rubble uses a variation of the 9 second question

Doug tells what he has been up to

doug Sosa: well last night we had a a local "salon", eighteen people last night
doug Sosa: getogether once a month
doug Sosa: put questions in a bowl,
doug Sosa: drawn at random, and then we each respond..
Adams Rubble :)
doug Sosa: it too is a kind of meditation.
Adams Rubble yes
doug Sosa: and you?
Adams Rubble what kind of questions?
doug Sosa: any kind,
doug Sosa: differene between spirit and soul,
doug Sosa: how is obama doing
Adams Rubble :)
doug Sosa: what is art
Adams Rubble I think I would have a hard time telling what I am doing

Fefonz arrives while I try to explain what is rattling around in my head these days

Adams Rubble In some ways I am in a strange interlude
doug Sosa: that is when it is interesting.
Adams Rubble Hello Fefonz
Fefonz Quan: Hello Doug, Adams :)
Adams Rubble Yes, I am just letting things happen, letting things settle
doug Sosa: morning (herere).
doug Sosa: =here
Fefonz Quan: here too
Adams Rubble ...but strangely conected somehow
doug Sosa: things are mischievious and have desires of their own.
Adams Rubble hmmm...yes
doug Sosa: from their point of view we are just another thing.
Adams Rubble :)
Adams Rubble experiencing lag on comments appearing
doug Sosa: see, that is another thing being mischievious.
Adams Rubble I think I may be seeing different levels...happy on one level...anxious on another...things coming and going

I mention lag and Fefonz connects it to RL. Doug picks up on my comments but I missed his statement at the time

Fefonz Quan: you know that in some sense we have a lag in RL too
Adams Rubble please say more Fefonz
doug Sosa: wonderful.
Fefonz Quan: but I interrupted the many levels you talked about, please go on
doug Sosa: and yes, i am always aware of a layer of terror at the bottom, while usually very comfortable on top.
doug Sosa: kind of like surf boarding, this being alive.
Adams Rubble Well its just these moods seem to appear and change very quickly
Fefonz Quan: yes, definitely
doug Sosa: except when sleeping, when i can be a fish underwater, the oard, theee wave..
MystiTool HUD 1.3.0-freebie: Entering chat range: buddha Nirvana (11m)
Adams Rubble The other night I woke up full of love for everyone. Woke up in the middle of the night an dunable to get back to sleep and the only thing I felt was ....love
Fefonz Quan: strangely, in my dreams i'm mostly me
Adams Rubble hello buddha
doug Sosa: moods are wonderful too. so interesting. how body fluidds affect out images.
buddha Nirvana: Hello adams, hi all :)
Fefonz Quan: nice experience Adams
Fefonz Quan: Hey Buddha
buddha Nirvana: hi:)

buddha and Corvi joined us

Fefonz Quan: Hey Corvi :)
Adams Rubble But in some ways that was on the surface and I wonder if there was anxiety underneath that was keeping me awake
Adams Rubble Hi Corvi :)
Sariah Meredith is Online
Corvuscorva Nightfire: Hi, ya'll.
doug Sosa: i must go cope with heavy rain and stuff...
doug Sosa: bye
Adams Rubble Bye Doug
Fefonz Quan: bye doug

Doug laeft and Fefonz and Corvi simultaneously filled in and then back again to fill in the space between buddha and I as if partners in dance

Corvuscorva Nightfire laughs.
Fefonz Quan: :-)
Adams Rubble watching people go back and forth
Fefonz Quan: great mind think alike
Fefonz Quan: minds*

Samuel arrived

Adams Rubble hehe
Corvuscorva Nightfire: no..ya had it right the first time...
Corvuscorva Nightfire: Sam!
Fefonz Quan: well, yes :)
Corvuscorva Nightfire: hello.
Adams Rubble Hello Samuel
Samuel Okelly:  
Samuel Okelly:             (  @ @ )          
Samuel Okelly:    ...o00o.(_).o00o...
Samuel Okelly:  (( HELLO  EVERY1! ! ! ! ))
Samuel Okelly:
Corvuscorva Nightfire baps Fefonz with a pillow.
Fefonz Quan: Hey Sam
Fefonz Quan thought about Great Mind, like all is one...
stevenaia Michinaga is Online
Adams Rubble :)
Adams Rubble wondering about RL lag
Corvuscorva Nightfire: best idea yet, Fefonz.
Fefonz Quan: tanks.
Fefonz Quan: RL lag - when it tkes our senses time to process data
Adams Rubble ah ha
Adams Rubble Now I get it
Adams Rubble yes

Steve enters the pavilion

Corvuscorva Nightfire: like 3D's .5 second lag that he talked about?
Fefonz Quan: thus what we see/hear happenned a few tenths of seoncd ago
Corvuscorva Nightfire nods.
Adams Rubble Hello Steve :)
Corvuscorva Nightfire: Hi, Steve!
stevenaia Michinaga: morning (for me)
Corvuscorva Nightfire: mid morning.
Fefonz Quan: for me too
Fefonz Quan: east cost Corvi?
Adams Rubble Most of us are in the same time zone :)
Sariah Meredith is Offline
Samuel Okelly: hi ste
Corvuscorva Nightfire grins..mmmhmm..much further south, though.
buddha Nirvana: Bye for now all :)
Corvuscorva Nightfire: bye, Buddha
Fefonz Quan: bye buddha
Adams Rubble looks southward and waves
Samuel Okelly: tc bud
Adams Rubble bye buddha

buddha departed and Corvi and Fefonz dance over together next to him; Steve sat down next to me which explains the following

Adams Rubble never sure which direction to look for people
stevenaia Michinaga: so it's not me rezzing
Adams Rubble No lots of mobing around
Adams Rubble hehe. moving
Corvuscorva Nightfire: scootching up to Sam.
Corvuscorva Nightfire grins.
Fefonz Quan: keeps you from freezing in a constant point of view :)
Corvuscorva Nightfire laughs.
Samuel Okelly: :)
stevenaia Michinaga: aways afraid of sitting on someone unappricitive
Adams Rubble still looking for people
Corvuscorva Nightfire pokes Steve..I appreciate it..you're just heavy!
stevenaia Michinaga: henve the qualification
stevenaia Michinaga: hence
Corvuscorva Nightfire laughs.
Samuel Okelly: never heard the verb "to scootch" before so hoping it is only good :)
Fefonz Quan: me too :)
Corvuscorva Nightfire laughs..it's a personal creation...
Fefonz Quan: sound appropriate :)
Corvuscorva Nightfire: you'll have to interpret it as you will.
stevenaia Michinaga: So Adams, are they taking sides?
Adams Rubble hehe
Corvuscorva Nightfire Fefonz and Sam against you and Adams...
Corvuscorva Nightfire: in a great war of the pillow thingies or something.
Fefonz Quan: looks like you are our squadron leader, Corvi
Samuel Okelly: :)
Corvuscorva Nightfire laughs..it's all my experience with pillow lobbing.
stevenaia Michinaga: a Master
Corvuscorva Nightfire: a pro.
Corvuscorva Nightfire lobs the first pillow at Stevie.
stevenaia Michinaga: that;s one way of looking at it
Corvuscorva Nightfire lobs a second at him.
stevenaia Michinaga: lol
Fefonz Quan: looking, then get it in your face :)
Corvuscorva Nightfire nods.
Adams Rubble What is the briefcase thingy?
stevenaia Michinaga: peering into sam's briefcase
stevenaia Michinaga: click it
Fefonz Quan wondered too
Samuel Okelly: :)
stevenaia Michinaga: light reading...grins
Samuel Okelly: it contains some files :)
Samuel Okelly: my personal view on a range of topics
Samuel Okelly: lol
Fefonz Quan: x-files?
Corvuscorva Nightfire: wow!

There had been a number of cryptic briefcase messages. I clicked on the briefcase and perused Sam's "thoughts" on why it Obama was a bad choice. There was one on "pregnancy" and other subjects

Fefonz Quan: and open to public?
Samuel Okelly: sure :) why not?
Samuel Okelly: i think it is a positive thig to have your views and beliefs challentged
Samuel Okelly: it seems so many of us are rigidly inflexible in our views
Corvuscorva Nightfire nods.
Adams Rubble If the shoe fits
Fefonz Quan nods
Samuel Okelly: Sl has helped me better understand the views of others NAD my own
Samuel Okelly: AND
Corvuscorva Nightfire nods, thoughtfully.
Samuel Okelly: (sadly though it hasnt helped me learn to type any better ;-)
Fefonz Quan: do you blind typing ?
Samuel Okelly: not really fef
Samuel Okelly: most of the time i am just over eager
Fefonz Quan: i found this is a worth-whileeffort to learn it
Fefonz Quan: (even when the results are not perfect :)
Corvuscorva Nightfire smiles at Fefonz.
stevenaia Michinaga: well I will say it is amazing what one's briefcase can carry in SL
Fefonz Quan: i wonder how, among other concepts we have on other people, the typoes of one influence how we perceieve him on SL
Samuel Okelly: :)
Corvuscorva Nightfire: it makes me fond of people, sometimes..that their ideas are more important than the typing.
stevenaia Michinaga: well I have been typo-ing for qite some time, perhaps the test case for that observation
Corvuscorva Nightfire: or their eagerness to communicate what they are thinking and feeling is more important than being "right"
stevenaia Michinaga: or their lack of "oneness" with the keyboard
Fefonz Quan nods to corvi
stevenaia Michinaga: funny, when I speak, I don't mistype
Fefonz Quan: how could you?
Corvuscorva Nightfire laughs.
Corvuscorva Nightfire: naw...
stevenaia Michinaga: say the words, dropping letters
Corvuscorva Nightfire: i know it's just you being engaged.
Fefonz Quan: engaged, and nobody told me? ;-)

Fefonz expresses concern about how well he is undestood when speaking in a second language

Fefonz Quan also have some english errors when speaking
Corvuscorva Nightfire laughs.
Fefonz Quan: finding it one of the major downsides of living in another country
Adams Rubble You do very well Fefonz
Corvuscorva Nightfire: being very present to them.
Corvuscorva Nightfire: engaged like .... Playing with the ideas, memes, thoughts, feelings of the environment/people/teachers/info around you.
Fefonz Quan: yes :) just jumped on the first association
Fefonz Quan: a nice word though
Adams Rubble thinking how well so many people all over the world are able to communicate with we language-challenged-Americans
Fefonz Quan: i might do very well, but much less than in my mother tounge, which makes me wonder about how our communication abilities effect our self perception and others
Adams Rubble Well it certainly affects things but we seem to get through most of it

That wasn't quite what i wanted to say so i try again

Adams Rubble I should say ideas shine through
Fefonz Quan: how easy it is for us to replace the channel noisy with the person noise
Samuel Okelly: im afraid i must leave nw folks
Samuel Okelly: rl phone calling
Adams Rubble bye Samuel
stevenaia Michinaga: well I fully understood you... until now
Samuel Okelly:
Samuel Okelly:                         â€
Samuel Okelly: †    (( take care everyone ))  â€
Samuel Okelly:                         â€
Samuel Okelly:
Fefonz Quan: bye sam, take care of your case
stevenaia Michinaga: bye Sam

Samuel left and we find that "channel" is a technical term

Adams Rubble agrees with Steve :)
stevenaia Michinaga: :)
Fefonz Quan: (the channel was the flaw?)
Adams Rubble hehe. what do you mean by channel?
Fefonz Quan: ok, it is a technical term, meaning the communication hardware, for example
Corvuscorva Nightfire: so like..language and typing skills?
Corvuscorva Nightfire: vocabulary and style?
Adams Rubble so you are equating language with hardware?
Adams Rubble lag
Corvuscorva Nightfire nods, smiling.
Fefonz Quan: i meant to say that when somebody has flaws in commnication, we naturally judge his inteligence
Adams Rubble yes Corvi :)
stevenaia Michinaga: perhasp initially
Adams Rubble ah
Corvuscorva Nightfire: or..if one speaks like a southerner...in the US...
Adams Rubble agrees with Steve again
Fefonz Quan: yes, exactly Corvi
Adams Rubble hehe Corvi
stevenaia Michinaga: grins, well that judgement is true, isn;t it?
Fefonz Quan: as any other, steve :)
stevenaia Michinaga: ducks for incommming pillw
Corvuscorva Nightfire laughs.
Corvuscorva Nightfire: and tosses it.
Adams Rubble too
Corvuscorva Nightfire: Stevie, Ya'll up there sound silly, too.
Fefonz Quan: :)
Adams Rubble Of course there is the Queen's English
stevenaia Michinaga: needs to do voice w/ Corvi before opening up mouth
Corvuscorva Nightfire laughs.
Fefonz Quan: but there are so many levels of communication, that it is really hard to define the person from it's manifestation outward
Fefonz Quan: or is there any difference?
Adams Rubble nods

From communication to what we are

Adams Rubble yes there is a difference...just hard to define
Fefonz Quan: yes, so the old saying "we are what we do" is false?
Adams Rubble here we are looking for what we ARE
Adams Rubble in doing that we see this in others in the group
Adams Rubble it comes through all the imprefections of language
Adams Rubble and even our avatars
Adams Rubble for when we meet in RL...
Adams Rubble it is still there
Corvuscorva Nightfire nods.
Fefonz Quan: totally
stevenaia Michinaga: yes
Fefonz Quan: the imperfections i meant
stevenaia Michinaga: and the essence
Adams Rubble me means what we ARE
Adams Rubble that is I mean
Adams Rubble hehe
Fefonz Quan: on some medioun evel, we tend to identify what we ARE with our inner world, call it thought , feeling etc.
Adams Rubble We embrace the imperfections wuth the essence (as Steve put it)
Fefonz Quan: level*
Fefonz Quan: but when we look more deeply, even those tings s=are not essential
Fefonz Quan: things
Fefonz Quan: not more than our words and gestures
Adams Rubble hmmm

Without realizing it, I introduce the dance theme while getting ready to talk about love, and everyone picks up on it

Adams Rubble You are leading us on quite a dance Fefonz :)
Fefonz Quan: so you see the catch ? :)
Adams Rubble from one level to another
Fefonz Quan: well, dancing is fun
Adams Rubble Love is the connection, maybe
Adams Rubble we are building Love
Fefonz Quan: wow, that was a leap
Adams Rubble who cares about the imperfections, communication
Corvuscorva Nightfire: the dance...
Adams Rubble lands gracefully on toes
stevenaia Michinaga: dancing is wonderful , in Tai Chi, there is the dance where no foce is fet by the other, perfect anticipation
Corvuscorva Nightfire: the dance is what is essential.
Corvuscorva Nightfire: that dancing occurs..not it's form.
Fefonz Quan: yes, and then we circled around back to the doing/being, the dance is here, now
Fefonz Quan: is there any essence nessecary beyond it?
Fefonz Quan: "what we aRE" quoting Adams
Corvuscorva Nightfire: matter..the thing that appears..is just what the dance looks like if you step away a bit.

from dance to love

Adams Rubble The dancing without love is just exercise (trying to paraphrase Paul) :)
Adams Rubble hehe
stevenaia Michinaga: well put Adams
Fefonz Quan: love is a big word, which meaning are we usin here?
stevenaia Michinaga: big love
Adams Rubble thanks Steve
Adams Rubble yes
Corvuscorva Nightfire: argh
Corvuscorva Nightfire: time for me to go
Adams Rubble bye Corvi :)
Fefonz Quan finds adding another word on top a non-understood one doesn't make it simpler :)
stevenaia Michinaga: bye Corvi
Fefonz Quan: bye corvi, enjoy your sunday :)

We said our goodbyes to Corvi as she departed and we continue...

Adams Rubble The love I feel for you Fefonz..and Steve...and Corvi
stevenaia Michinaga: yes, easy and open love
Fefonz Quan blushes :)
Adams Rubble The love that comes from somewhere beyond my self, my identitites
Adams Rubble from deep inside
Fefonz Quan: so is that love defines the essence?
Adams Rubble the same love I feel when i think about God/Being
stevenaia Michinaga: the ability to love define your essence
Adams Rubble hmmmm
Adams Rubble I think I might go a little further
stevenaia Michinaga: and the in-ability too
Fefonz Quan: well, that i can swallow steve
Adams Rubble When we find the love we are close to the essence
Adams Rubble it is connected
Fefonz Quan: yes.
Fefonz Quan: well, we climbed high here, i will have to go now, RL calls :)
Adams Rubble Yes, we have gone a long time this morning :)
Fefonz Quan: it was inspiring, adams, steve,
Adams Rubble Bye, Fefonz. Good talking :)
stevenaia Michinaga: se you soon Fefonz
Fefonz Quan: hope to continue that later
Adams Rubble :)
Fefonz Quan: bye

Steve and I then went on a field trip