2009.08.03 01:00 - Art as a Pause

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Gaya Ethaniel. The comments are by Gaya Ethaniel.

    Nymf Hathaway: Good morning Gaya :)
    Gaya Ethaniel: Hello Nymf :) How are you?
    Nymf Hathaway: Doing well thank you and you?
    Gaya Ethaniel: Good thanks :)
    Gaya Ethaniel: You know I've been thinking over what you said about the paintings, vulnerability.
    Gaya Ethaniel: Do you remember this session?
    Nymf Hathaway: Sure :)
    Nymf Hathaway: and what did you come up with?
    Gaya Ethaniel: Would you care to say more about that particular point?
    Nymf Hathaway: Of course
    Gaya Ethaniel: Thanks :)
    Nymf Hathaway: well take your avi... I asked you why you choose a rabbit instead of a female avi... you answered because with this rabbit you can be Gaya without being approached sexually...
    Nymf Hathaway: these paintings do not cover anything
    Nymf Hathaway: she is just her natural her
    Gaya Ethaniel: I haven't met an aggressive male rabbit yet :P
    Nymf Hathaway: To me that feel vulnerable... I wouldn't present myself like she did just to protect such, I guess
    Nymf Hathaway: smiles good :)
    Gaya Ethaniel: They're such a nuisance.
    Gaya Ethaniel: But she is surrounded by ceramics if I remember correctly.
    Nymf Hathaway: Well I understand why you did choose the rabbit... man are very visual
    Nymf Hathaway: yes she was
    Gaya Ethaniel: But yes the ceramics weren't intrusive ...
    Nymf Hathaway: Next to the tattoos the only things that gave her some sort of shelter
    Gaya Ethaniel: [and I wanted to be non-human too :)]
    Nymf Hathaway: bad English, sorry
    Gaya Ethaniel: Did you feel the ceramics were sheltering her?
    Nymf Hathaway: Maybe I project my feeling in it by saying that... I think I would have felt as if it would have given a shelter
    Gaya Ethaniel: Interesting :)
    Gaya Ethaniel: We see things differently but the point that stood out from your interpretation was 'vulnerability' and why you were 'attracted' to that aspect.
    Nymf Hathaway: I admire the human body, specially the womans body, I like arts including it... as long as it has hmmm whats the word... elegance, respect
    Gaya Ethaniel: ah ok
    Nymf Hathaway: I think we are a piece of art...well some bodies are :)
    Gaya Ethaniel: I like dancers both man/woman in that respect :) Actually had more fun taking photographs of male dancers than female ones so I think for me depends on context.
    Gaya Ethaniel: Or medium ...
    Nymf Hathaway: I appreciate sportsman for that :)
    Gaya Ethaniel: :)
    Nymf Hathaway: swimmers especially
    Gaya Ethaniel: So vulnerability and elegance of the body in the painting was striking for you, wasn't it? But why?
    Gaya Ethaniel: Because such depiction is rare for example?
    Nymf Hathaway: so Riverdance would have your interest...not that they are naked but they use their body for art..?
    Gaya Ethaniel: mm ... not a big fan of riverdance I'm afraid.
    Gaya Ethaniel: Not the big staged one at least.
    Nymf Hathaway: Yes it was.... is thinking about the why
    Gaya Ethaniel listens.


    Nymf Hathaway: No not because it is rare... walk into a museum and we find enough naked ladies.... the pose...she was seen from behind...as if she covered her front... her tattoos seemed the only thing that gave her some protection...which is nothing :)
    Nymf Hathaway: and the way she was painted... really realistic and beautiful
    Gaya Ethaniel: I also got the feeling of fragility/vulnerability but guess I was curious to know why that stood out so strongly to you :) Maybe it will come to you later.
    Gaya Ethaniel: The bit that stood out more were shapes of things and how she looked almost like ceramics.
    Nymf Hathaway: yes natural even the items next to her
    Gaya Ethaniel: Do you think I can put a snapshot of the paintings on wiki?
    Nymf Hathaway: and the floor
    Nymf Hathaway: of course
    Gaya Ethaniel: Yes that was what stood out most for me.
    Nymf Hathaway: the artist will be honored, knowing her
    Gaya Ethaniel: But then ceramics are fragile too.
    Nymf Hathaway: oh yes
    Gaya Ethaniel: Could you also rezz the other one?
    Nymf Hathaway: no I gave them to one of my scientists as a present... but I can bring us to the place I got them, if you would like
    Gaya Ethaniel: No matter :)
    Nymf Hathaway: Giving these as a present was something strange as well
    Gaya Ethaniel: So that kind of links the fragile part I think then :)
    Gaya Ethaniel: Why?
    Nymf Hathaway: well... for some these are seen as ... almost porn, in the netherlands we are very open and free to appreciate these things... in other countries and especially the usa it is seen different
    Gaya Ethaniel: This is ... seen pornographic? hm ...
    Nymf Hathaway: and I didn't want to make this lady feel a if she couldn't decline :)
    Gaya Ethaniel: [What was the artist's name again?]
    Nymf Hathaway: Moonstone Eiren
    Nymf Hathaway: she is German
    Gaya Ethaniel: I'm sure she was happy to receive it Nymf :)
    Gaya Ethaniel: Thanks.
    Nymf Hathaway: Smiles, well I think she is indeed
    Gaya Ethaniel: :)
    Nymf Hathaway: Did you get a pick?
    Gaya Ethaniel: I think I have a lm ... one moment.
    Gaya Ethaniel: Art of Eiren right?
    Nymf Hathaway: yes
    Gaya Ethaniel: :)
    Gaya Ethaniel: I think art is great for things that is hard to describe in words.
    Nymf Hathaway: Fully agrees :)
    Gaya Ethaniel: In that painting, there is something deeper beneath that fragility of things depicted I think.
    Nymf Hathaway: It is even hard to describe these feelings after looking at it :)
    Gaya Ethaniel: Yes that's what I meant :)
    Nymf Hathaway: Smiles
    Gaya Ethaniel: I also felt how 'ancient' 'old' things are in that painting .... and how we all are connected as in ashes to ashes.
    Nymf Hathaway: Well... we should honor Moonstone for that... must be a great thing to make people stunished :)
    Nymf Hathaway: oooh nice Gaya
    Gaya Ethaniel: Maybe I dug out too much old pots when I was studying archaeology >.<
    Nymf Hathaway: and yes... I agree again
    Nymf Hathaway: Did you? wow
    Gaya Ethaniel: See how personal experiences filter what one sees heheheheh
    Nymf Hathaway: always wanted to study archaeology
    Nymf Hathaway: yes
    Gaya Ethaniel: In Europe, people can participate in excavations easily without even studying :)
    Nymf Hathaway: I know.. I did :)
    Gaya Ethaniel: Did you enjoy it?


    Nymf Hathaway: Oh yes... it was a convent (among other things like Celtic fields) and everything was in a good state to make a museum later on about it :)
    Gaya Ethaniel: ah :)
    Gaya Ethaniel: I'm afraid I have to leave a bit early today ... :(
    Gaya Ethaniel: Thanks for joining me Nymf. Nice talking to you again :)
    Nymf Hathaway: No problem... I appreciated the time Gaya and the subject :)
    Gaya Ethaniel: Wish you a good day :)
    Nymf Hathaway: Wishing you a beautiful day
    Gaya Ethaniel: Thank you :)

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