2009.08.24 13:00 - Next year in ...Europe?..America?..Kathmandu?

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Scathach Rhiadra. The comments are by Scathach Rhiadra.

    The session was mostly taken up with thoughts about the retreat starting in the US, and possible places to hold one next year.    (I still vote for Kathmandu:))

    Yakuzza Lethecus: hiya scath
    Scathach Rhiadra: How are you today?
    Yakuzza Lethecus: fine thanks, just trying to get to other thoughts
    Scathach Rhiadra: :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: and pab is often good for that, if we come to a topic :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: or other people are since i just read most of the time
    Scathach Rhiadra: true, we will have to see what emerges:)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: u took over this session ?
    Scathach Rhiadra: yes, Stim is at the retreat
    Yakuzza Lethecus: yeah, i know i am curious maybe if there is a retrat next year
    Scathach Rhiadra: if thie one goes well, I am sure there will be more:)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: for example flying to the states is a big thing at least in my thinking
    Scathach Rhiadra: yes it is a long way to go for a few days!
    Yakuzza Lethecus: good evening gay
    Yakuzza Lethecus: a
    Yakuzza Lethecus: sry
    Scathach Rhiadra: Hello Gaya:)
    Gaya Ethaniel: Hello Scath and Yakuzza :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hey sophia
    Scathach Rhiadra: new Av?
    Gaya Ethaniel: Would you mind if I lower the fountain?
    Scathach Rhiadra: Hello SophiaSharon
    Gaya Ethaniel: A new skin :)
    Scathach Rhiadra: no, go ahead
    Gaya Ethaniel: And yeah ... changed shape too :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: and hey wol :)
    Gaya Ethaniel: Hello Wol :)
    Scathach Rhiadra: Hello Wol:)
    Gaya Ethaniel: Hello SophiaSharon :)
    Wol Euler: hello gaya, scath, yakuzza, sophia
    SophiaSharon Larnia: HI Wol
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hey qt, bert
    Gaya Ethaniel: brb
    Scathach Rhiadra: Hello Qt, Bertram:0
    Qt Core: Hi all
    Wol Euler: hello bertram
    SophiaSharon Larnia: Hi Qt and Bertram
    Bertram Jacobus: hello all ... :-)
    Wol Euler: ah, gaya, you were at the Eshi sale!
    Scathach Rhiadra: um, is Gaya gone?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: rebooted maybe?
    Wol Euler: oh, she left.
    Wol Euler: wb gaya
    Scathach Rhiadra: wb Gaya:)
    Wol Euler: hello qt
    Gaya Ethaniel: ty :)
    Gaya Ethaniel: Hello Qt :)
    Scathach Rhiadra: so, the 'left-behinds'....
    Qt Core: Hi Gaya
    SophiaSharon Larnia: haha
    Wol Euler: :)
    Wol Euler suppresses a sob.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: aww Wol :)
    Wol Euler: yeah :)
    Gaya Ethaniel: We are here though.
    Scathach Rhiadra passes Wol a tissue:(
    Wol Euler smiles damply and blows her nose
    Bertram Jacobus: sings : blow,blow,blow you nose, life is just a dream ... ;-)
    Wol Euler: heheheheh
    Scathach Rhiadra: heehee
    SophiaSharon Larnia: I like your idea of a retreat in Europe Wol, would like to go someday :))
    Wol Euler nods and smiles
    Bertram Jacobus: continues : merely,merely,merely,merely - everywhere is steam ... :o)
    Wol Euler: I would definitely like to have a retreat somewhere in Europe, for the rest of us
    Scathach Rhiadra still thinks Kathmandu would be a great place for a retreat:)
    Wol Euler: actually, Sophia, you are the only non-european right now :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: oh.. ;p
    Bertram Jacobus: sure wol. i would like to have it too
    Bertram Jacobus: kathmandu may be nicer, but europe for many is more easy (?) ...
    Scathach Rhiadra: true:)
    Gaya Ethaniel: Would it be around this time next year?
    Wol Euler: same applies to Australia and Hawaii, at least for me.
    Wol Euler: mmm, probably, yes. Maybe a bit earlier
    Wol Euler: late spring can be quite lovely here.
    Wol Euler: have to see when people would be able to trvel
    Gaya Ethaniel: Guess it would be either UK or Germany by headcount?
    Wol Euler nods
    Wol Euler: Both have the advantage of a high proportion of English-speakers in the native population :)
    Wol Euler: which is not true of Spain or France
    Qt Core: nor italy
    Gaya Ethaniel: Anyway, if in summer I'm not so sure. I will be travelling sometime in August or September.
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hmm, depends nobody in my environment speaks english fluently
    SophiaSharon Larnia wonders if even I speak english fluently anymore ;p
    Wol Euler: :)
    Scathach Rhiadra: :)
    Wol Euler: do you find yourself making typos in RL speech? :)
    Bertram Jacobus: the bad influence of all the non native speakers sophia ?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: sometimes! hahah
    Gaya Ethaniel: :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: not bad influence Betram :)))
    SophiaSharon Larnia: brb
    Wol Euler: I was thinking during the pause about hte day of silence.
    Scathach Rhiadra: yes, that should be good:)
    Wol Euler nods
    Gaya Ethaniel: Is it Wednesday?
    Wol Euler: If I weren't working, I'd be tempted to try it too. Yes, wed
    Scathach Rhiadra nods
    Bertram Jacobus: i had already at a very special retreat a day without speaking, eating and drinking - very special. and was no problem at all.
    Scathach Rhiadra: don't know about the idea of writing on boards durings conversation times though
    Wol Euler: no, that feels like cheating.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: smiles
    Gaya Ethaniel: I'm not sure about that either.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: it could be like typing it
    Qt Core: for not native english speaker would be easier than really speaking ;-)
    Scathach Rhiadra: it is more usual to have spoken teaching periods but silence for everything else
    Gaya Ethaniel: Guess for absolute necessity, a board/pad is used?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: have never been on a retreat, I think the silence part would be easiest for me :)
    Bertram Jacobus: and what the most difficult sophia ? :-)
    Scathach Rhiadra: hmmm, you would think so, but it can be very hard to stay silent when you have to, so to speak
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hello paul :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hmm... the 'games' like sharing an experience
    Bertram Jacobus: hello paul :-)
    Wol Euler: hello paul
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Paul
    Scathach Rhiadra: Hello paul
    Gaya Ethaniel: Hello Paul :)
    Bertram Jacobus: *blubbs* away again ? :-)
    Wol Euler: ah well :)
    Scathach Rhiadra: :)
    Bertram Jacobus: why could that be diffucult for you sophia ? may i ask ?
    Scathach Rhiadra: I think sophia is away
    Gaya Ethaniel: I have to go now.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: kind of personal, but would in exercises like that, participants create a stream of consciousness type thing, and I wouldn't want to disrupt that
    Wol Euler: awwww, bye gaya, take care
    Gaya Ethaniel: Enjoy your day/evening :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: bye Gaya
    Scathach Rhiadra: bye Gaya:)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: Hi Fael :)
    Wol Euler: hello fael
    Bertram Jacobus: have a good time gaya
    Scathach Rhiadra: Hello Fael
    Bertram Jacobus: and hello fael :-)
    Bertram Jacobus: disrupt or participate - is my spontaneous association ...
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes :)
    Bertram Jacobus: can be same thing and "only" different view (?) ...
    Wol Euler: yes, why would your contributions "disturb" instead of enriching?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: being present is is a way automatically participating
    SophiaSharon Larnia: is in a way*
    Bertram Jacobus: yes
    Bertram Jacobus: nice idea :-9
    Bertram Jacobus: uh, ugly nine :o)
    Fael Illyar: meep meep! :)
    Fael Illyar participates.
    Bertram Jacobus: giggles
    Scathach Rhiadra: can also be pressure to participate, which is not so spontaneous
    Scathach Rhiadra: felt pressure*
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes thats part of it
    Fael Illyar: ah, you mean like thinking it's not ok to be silent and say nothing?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: my thoughts turn on a dime so to speak, chaotic :p
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes Fael
    Fael Illyar smiles 'It's very much ok.'
    Fael Illyar: I think I've been silent entire sessions... aside from greetins sometimes :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hi danielhond1
    Scathach Rhiadra: Hello Danielhondi
    Fael Illyar: Hello Danielhond1 :)
    Wol Euler: hello dan
    Bertram Jacobus: hello daniel - take a seat if you like ;-)
    danielhond1 Toshi: hello
    Bertram Jacobus: all welcome here ... :-)
    Scathach Rhiadra: have you been here before, may i ask?
    danielhond1 Toshi: no nevver
    Wol Euler: could I ask you to remove your AO please, it's filling my chat window with errors
    danielhond1 Toshi: ok
    Wol Euler: ty :)
    danielhond1 Toshi: good now lol
    Scathach Rhiadra: we are a meditation group, meet 4 times a day to discuss the nature of reality and other things
    danielhond1 Toshi: aha ok then i know wht you doing
    danielhond1 Toshi: im going
    Scathach Rhiadra: all our chat is recorded and posted on wiki, is it ok to include anything you may say?
    Wol Euler waves
    danielhond1 Toshi: ok
    SophiaSharon Larnia: Hi Shyama
    Wol Euler: hello shyama
    Scathach Rhiadra: Hello Syyama
    Bertram Jacobus: hello shayama ... :-9
    Fael Illyar: Hi Shyama :)
    Shyama Sheryffe: what r u talking about
    Scathach Rhiadra: good question:)
    Shyama Sheryffe: ty fael :)
    Bertram Jacobus: "we are a meditation group" ? (scath explained to a stranger just before) - is that sure ? ... :-)
    Scathach Rhiadra: ah, why not?:)
    Scathach Rhiadra: how would you describe this group?
    Bertram Jacobus: i´m thinking ... wheather that is so for everybody of pab ... hm ...
    Bertram Jacobus: i´m still thinking - a play as being group perhaps ? ;o)
    Scathach Rhiadra: the 9-second practice is the basis is it not?
    Scathach Rhiadra: seriously, how would you all describe the group/
    Bertram Jacobus: yes. you may be right, but - i, for example, can´t do the 9 seconds very much ...
    Wol Euler: I usually say "meditation and discussion"
    Scathach Rhiadra nods
    SophiaSharon Larnia: as stated previously :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: i do the 9 sec whenever the computer is on (midfulness bell on it), which is most of the time when I am home
    Bertram Jacobus: "play as being group" also was meant seriously
    SophiaSharon Larnia: but hard to get back to when have been working several days
    Scathach Rhiadra: ok, but a newcomer would not kno what that is?
    Scathach Rhiadra: know*
    Bertram Jacobus: but it could be an instant hint to think a bit ? or is that not good ?
    Bertram Jacobus: and exploring could also be mentioned as essential here perhaps ?
    Scathach Rhiadra: yes, it is good, I suppose everyone has there own introduction piece:)
    Bertram Jacobus: yes
    Bertram Jacobus: i agree happily :-)
    Bertram Jacobus: ty
    Scathach Rhiadra: :)
    Bertram Jacobus: so nice, such areas of diversity ...
    Scathach Rhiadra nods
    Fael Illyar: my introduction piece changed each time somehow :)
    Bertram Jacobus: by the way sophia : one can doubt also in different ways . i, for example ask myself sometimes, wheather i talk to much and go people on their nerves with my chatting ...
    Wol Euler: naaaah
    Bertram Jacobus: (and the buddha teached the "middle path") ...
    Scathach Rhiadra: no Bertram, we appreciate your chatting very much:)
    Shyama Sheryffe: dont doubt that bert
    SophiaSharon Larnia: lol Bertram
    Bertram Jacobus: lol ty all :-)
    Shyama Sheryffe: u inspire us
    Bertram Jacobus: it´s so deep that in many teachings again and again it´s said, that the mind causes all being, so also being inspired ... hm
    Bertram Jacobus: helllo arisia ! ... :-)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: Hi Ari :)
    Fael Illyar: Hi Ari :)
    Scathach Rhiadra: Hello Ari
    Wol Euler: hello ari
    Shyama Sheryffe: hi ari:)
    Arisia Vita: Hi everyone
    SophiaSharon Larnia: bye everyone I have a bit of a cold and am not feeling to great, talk to you later :))
    Qt Core: bye Sophia
    Wol Euler: bye sophia, get well soon.
    Scathach Rhiadra: bye SophiaSharon, get well soon
    SophiaSharon Larnia: thanks
    Bertram Jacobus: then get well sonn again ! :-)
    Shyama Sheryffe: bye sophia
    Scathach Rhiadra: I think we are definitely feeling 'left-behind':))
    Wol Euler: :)
    Bertram Jacobus: not me (sry) ... because ... i´ll meet a very for me important and beloved teacher next weekend ...
    Wol Euler: nice
    Scathach Rhiadra: ah, very nice:)
    Bertram Jacobus: yes. i´m so happy ! it´s years ago that i heard last time teachings from him ...
    Wol Euler: :)
    Bertram Jacobus: and the most or really "important" is anyway "only" - his presence ...
    Scathach Rhiadra nods
    Bertram Jacobus: so as we have presece here ...
    Bertram Jacobus: various kinds of presence
    Bertram Jacobus: but presence, for me
    Bertram Jacobus: and i´m happy, that "the 13" can have a first pab life experience
    Bertram Jacobus: they will bring that into the whole group i´m sure ...
    Scathach Rhiadra: :)
    Shyama Sheryffe: "the 13 " ?
    Bertram Jacobus: and it may be only a kind of beginning ... of such events ... happening here and there ...
    Fael Illyar: there were 13 people at the first RL meeting of PaB :)
    Shyama Sheryffe: ah
    Fael Illyar <-- one of them.
    Bertram Jacobus: how can you, then, be here fael !? :-))
    Scathach Rhiadra: there was a one-day meeting in RL last year, but this is the first retreat
    Bertram Jacobus: ah. did not know that
    Scathach Rhiadra: I have an early start tomorrow, so must go. Good night all, Namasté
    Wol Euler: 'night scath, take care
    Bertram Jacobus: good night scath , namaste :-)
    Qt Core: 'night scath
    Bertram Jacobus: i´ll go, too - ty all and have a good time
    Yakuzza Lethecus: good night everyone
    Fael Illyar: See you later Bert:)
    Fael Illyar: See you later Yak :)
    Wol Euler: bye bert
    Bertram Jacobus: yes. ty again all :-)
    Shyama Sheryffe: late here too, goodnight all
    Wol Euler: 'night shyama
    Wol Euler: :)
    Wol Euler: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotland/edinburgh_and_east/8216991.stm
    Arisia Vita: :) thanks Wol
    Wol Euler: :)
    Wol Euler: a little amusement for the evening (or afternoon)
    Fael Illyar smiles.
    Wol Euler: so.
    Arisia Vita: a needle pulling thread...
    Wol Euler: :)
    Wol Euler: http://vimeo.com/6058195
    Qt Core: time to go, bye all
    Wol Euler: goodnight qt, take care
    Arisia Vita: bye Qt
    Fael Illyar: Good night Qt :)
    Arisia Vita: or is that cutie?
    Qt Core: no, never cutie ;-)
    Arisia Vita: good
    Wol Euler: I think we're done for tonight. Bye all!
    Fael Illyar: Good night Wol :)
    Arisia Vita: bye Wol
    Arisia Vita: night

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