2009.10.29 19:00 - Pulling All the Strings

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Paradise Tennant. The comments are by Paradise Tennant.


    Paradise Tennant: hiya pila gtsy :)
    Pila Mulligan: hi Paradise, how are you?
    Paradise Tennant: sleepy
    Pila Mulligan: :)
    Paradise Tennant: was up really early
    Pila Mulligan: I like naps
    Paradise Tennant: they frown at that at the office :)
    Pila Mulligan: looks like Fox's avi is parked over there
    Pila Mulligan: stuffy office people :)
    Paradise Tennant: though we do have a room downstairs where one of the partners has massages ..often thought it would work well for naps
    Paradise Tennant: lol
    Pila Mulligan: ep, they should provide for naps and massages :)
    Pila Mulligan: yep*
    Pila Mulligan: hello Fox
    Paradise Tennant: hiya fox gtsy
    Fox Monacular: Hi Pila, Paradise
    Pila Mulligan: how ye be?
    Fox Monacular: hi Steve
    stevenaia Michinaga: hello
    Pila Mulligan: hi Steve
    stevenaia Michinaga: how is everyone tonight?
    Paradise Tennant: hiya steve
    Pila Mulligan: fine, thanks
    Fox Monacular: allright, a really long day today for me:)
    Paradise Tennant: alittle sleepy but all well here :)
    Fox Monacular: how are you steve?
    stevenaia Michinaga: I;ve been sampling tomarrows candy :)
    Paradise Tennant: lol
    stevenaia Michinaga: seems to check out, but I do have a bit more to do
    Paradise Tennant: great idea one sec
    Pila Mulligan: :) the start of the lotsa-food season -- Haloween - New Years
    stevenaia Michinaga: just some prep for thanksgiving
    Paradise Tennant: ;)
    Fox Monacular: someone sent me a video of Kate Bush wuthering heights today... I'm still impressed:)
    Fox Monacular: I've never heard of her before
    stevenaia Michinaga: one of my favorite songs of hers
    Paradise Tennant: ;)
    Fox Monacular: some crazy voice acrobatics!
    Fox Monacular: very cool
    Paradise Tennant: puts it on her list to buy
    Fox Monacular: I used the PaB approach with my 14 year old cousin today - I took her to pearce her ears and told her to do 9 sec:)
    Paradise Tennant: lol
    Paradise Tennant: :)
    Paradise Tennant: good idea
    Fox Monacular: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hv0az...eature=related
    Fox Monacular: a kate bush video
    Paradise Tennant: thanks fox :)
    Fox Monacular: :)
    Paradise Tennant: did you have a dream fox .. :)
    Paradise Tennant: pila had a lovely one :)
    Fox Monacular: well.... yes I guess:) did you get my e-mail?
    Fox Monacular: it was cryptic and spooky, not very PaB-like
    Paradise Tennant: hmm nope
    Paradise Tennant: I get capped though very quickly I am in lots of music groups :)
    Fox Monacular: oh, ok
    Fox Monacular: so I'll paste it here, if that's ok with everyone
    Pila Mulligan: sure
    Fox Monacular: I had a late morning dream of a group of people I simultaneously did and did not know (SL reference?) living in a big house somewhere in the mountains. There was also a lake, the water was red and orange, people were swimming in it... some were naked, others were wearing winter clothes. I thought it was peculiar, but nobody else seemed to care. As I was going through my suitcase looking for something that could function as a swimsuit, the news came that one of the people in the lake drowned all the babies... I went to see, and he was getting ready to leave, smashing a dollhouse that I made for the 'babies'. I got upset, but some woman came up to me and said "you shouldn't react, you know that... there will be other babies, and in any case these were past due, it must have been their time"...
    Paradise Tennant: thank you
    Paradise Tennant: wow
    Fox Monacular: yeah....
    Paradise Tennant: wow
    Pila Mulligan: gothic
    Fox Monacular: seriously
    Fox Monacular: but you know, almost all my dreams have intense content... I guess that's why I'm studying dreams
    Paradise Tennant: that is intense and very powerful
    Fox Monacular: Steve, a couple of nights ago during PaB session, Eos, Paradise, Pila and I decided to 'invite a dream' and share our experiences afterwards
    Fox Monacular: How about you, Paradise?
    Paradise Tennant: well I rarely if ever remember my dreams but I did try hard
    Pila Mulligan: http://playasbeing.wik.is/Chat_Logs/...00_-_Book_Club
    Paradise Tennant: and during the course of the night about 4 am I woke up with a clear distinct thought
    Paradise Tennant: pay the cat
    Paradise Tennant: lol
    Paradise Tennant: wrote it down
    Paradise Tennant: went back to sleep
    Pila Mulligan: I wonder what it means?
    Fox Monacular: :)
    Paradise Tennant: and then the next moring went hmmmmm
    Paradise Tennant: not sure
    Paradise Tennant: do not have a cat like them though
    Paradise Tennant: just not sure
    stevenaia Michinaga: back
    stevenaia Michinaga: yes, Pila shared his dream the following night
    Pila Mulligan: welcome back, tick or treat prepper
    stevenaia Michinaga: :)
    Paradise Tennant: ;)
    Fox Monacular: yes, I'm reading the log now:)
    Fox Monacular: pay the cat
    stevenaia Michinaga: I do these 20 minute power naps in the afternoon, always ahve 2 or 3 distint dreams
    Pila Mulligan: I like naps, too -- but rarely dream then
    Fox Monacular: 2-3 dreams during a 20 min nap? that's intense
    stevenaia Michinaga: don;t remember than now, I should write them down,
    stevenaia Michinaga: jsut lay down on the office floor carpet and I;m asleep within minutes
    Fox Monacular: :)
    Pila Mulligan: must be deep
    Pila Mulligan: (carpet)
    stevenaia Michinaga: usually very tired at that point
    Paradise Tennant: :) hmm smiles .. thinks about the hardwood in her office .. carpet sounds better
    Pila Mulligan: Fox, what do you make of your dream?
    Pila Mulligan: professionally and/or personally?
    Pila Mulligan: ... Fox may still be reading the chat log
    Fox Monacular: oups, sorry, baby demanded attention
    Pila Mulligan: :)
    Paradise Tennant: no worries
    Paradise Tennant: funny i cannot see steve on my screen :)
    Paradise Tennant: not even a cloud
    Pila Mulligan: his avi is visible here
    Paradise Tennant: hmmm
    stevenaia Michinaga: I;m distracted by other Kate Bush Videos
    Paradise Tennant: lol
    stevenaia Michinaga: any better?
    Paradise Tennant: what do you thing your dream meant fox ?
    Paradise Tennant: ahh there you are steve :)
    Paradise Tennant: *think
    stevenaia Michinaga: I always leave dream interpritations to professionals
    Paradise Tennant: hmm
    Fox Monacular: i don't know what to make of that dream, Pila
    Pila Mulligan: :)
    Fox Monacular: but I haven't thoughts too hard either
    Fox Monacular: I'm pretty used to cryptic dreams... all my dreams are intense:)
    Paradise Tennant: adds a real richness .. to life if you can dream so vividly and actually recall them
    Fox Monacular: you know, Steve, i take naps at work too sometimes - but we have beds there:)
    Paradise Tennant: like living an extra few hours in a place which is unfettered ..lol alittle like sl
    Fox Monacular: :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: glad I don;t
    Fox Monacular: hehe
    Pila Mulligan: my home office is also the guest room and the bed next to my desk has a resident monster that grabs people away from the desk
    Fox Monacular: :)
    Paradise Tennant: lol
    Pila Mulligan: worse than the ice cream monster in the grocery store freezer
    Paradise Tennant: ahhh pila .. you mean a napster a monnapster A:)
    Pila Mulligan: nie Paradise
    Paradise Tennant: lol
    Pila Mulligan: :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: glad I have the candy monster under control (at the moment)
    Pila Mulligan: by esting it :)
    Pila Mulligan: eating*
    stevenaia Michinaga: hehe
    Paradise Tennant: remembers she has .. chocolate covered jujubes :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: very bad for your smile
    Pila Mulligan: :)
    Paradise Tennant: smiles :)
    Pila Mulligan: Fox's dream sounds like a kind of dante's inferno -- terrible images, of whatever signifigance
    Paradise Tennant: rereads it
    Paradise Tennant: hmm full of simultaneously occurring opposites
    Paradise Tennant: knowing and not knowing people
    Paradise Tennant: naked and winter bound clothing
    Paradise Tennant: gentleness and destruction
    Paradise Tennant: like a spectrum squeezed short
    Pila Mulligan: + concern and indifference ?
    Fox Monacular: good points, Paradise:)
    Fox Monacular: yes, I agree
    Fox Monacular: I wonder though how it traslates to SL RL opposition?
    Fox Monacular: and if it does?
    Paradise Tennant: well maybe the babies were just pixels :)
    Pila Mulligan: most of mundane life seems to be apart from the extremes -- for some, SL is a gothic kind of escapism
    Fox Monacular: in dream interpretation one of the techniques is to have others analyze your dream as if it were their opwn
    Pila Mulligan: o SL has more images like the dream than RL usually does
    Pila Mulligan: in terms of being unusual
    Fox Monacular: nods
    Pila Mulligan: I sent Fox an email after reading her email about her dream referring to a dream I had about 20 years ago, about babies in a swamp
    Pila Mulligan: I associated it with abortion
    Pila Mulligan: just spontaneously, not for any reasonn
    Fox Monacular: yes, i have read it
    Pila Mulligan: the babies were being pulled from the swamp water by people in small boats
    Fox Monacular: very intense stuff
    Paradise Tennant: hmm well you are a new mom .. and being a new mom is tiring ..a time of tremendous adjustment .. maybe there is a level of worry there - protective concern
    Fox Monacular: that's for sure:)
    Pila Mulligan: and there seems to be an emotionally entropic or dysfunctional aspect of human anture's dark side that seeks out and exploits anxieties
    Pila Mulligan: button pushing
    Paradise Tennant: entropic ?
    Fox Monacular: definitely
    Pila Mulligan: One of the ideas involved in the concept of entropy is that nature tends from order to disorder'
    Fox Monacular: interesting, at one point I remember there was a story in the news about a schozophrenic mom killing her baby
    Paradise Tennant: lol it is a law of physics one I have never doubted ..just have to look in the bottom of my handbag to prove it
    Fox Monacular: strangely, on that day, before reading the news, I was thinking about what is it exactly that stops parents from hurting their children - in an existential kinda way, not actually contemplating anythign:)
    Pila Mulligan: lots of parents hurt their children because they were hurt themselves
    Fox Monacular: you know, like in childhood when we realize that we could hurt ourselves and others, and you wonder why you don't do it
    Fox Monacular: I agree
    stevenaia Michinaga: or what would have you put yourself in harms way to protect your children
    Pila Mulligan: higher nature prevents doing harm, but unfortunately not all parents hae it
    Fox Monacular: yes, that too, Steve
    Paradise Tennant: well being a parent is the hardest job on the planet
    Fox Monacular: you know I had these thoughts in a very abstract way, but it was kind of disturbing me, like, why am I thinking about such stuff... and then turned out this was all over the news... like I caught the vibe or something
    Paradise Tennant: none more difficult really or taxing
    Fox Monacular: yes, I;m starting to realize that:)
    Paradise Tennant: :) or more rewarding
    Fox Monacular: for sure:)
    Paradise Tennant: so it pulls all your strings .. even the ones with the occassional dark notes .. all in all though .. the music is sweet - the rhythm of life
    Paradise Tennant: ;)
    Fox Monacular: I like that... a music metaphor:)
    Paradise Tennant: ;)
    stevenaia Michinaga: time to turn in
    Paradise Tennant: sigh me too .. had a really early morning .. very snoozy
    stevenaia Michinaga: night all, will try to remember my dreams now
    Pila Mulligan: and dreamof the chocolate factory :)
    Fox Monacular: time to tune in for me:)
    Pila Mulligan: bye folks
    Paradise Tennant: thank you all as always enjoyed it very much nite nite
    Fox Monacular: take care Paradise, Pila, great conversation
    Pila Mulligan: walking back to the vollage .... :)
    Paradise Tennant: ok
    Paradise Tennant: you lead .i will get lost
    Fox Monacular: can I walk home with you?
    Paradise Tennant: of course
    Fox Monacular: :)
    Paradise Tennant: pila has a great sense of direction
    Paradise Tennant: i would land you three sims over
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