2010.01.15 07:00 - Whole Envy

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Riddle Sideways. The comments are by Riddle Sideways.

    Reading the hole thing will give you too much about envy. 

    Riddle Sideways: good morning
    Geoff Baily: good morning Riddle
    Riddle Sideways: sorry late, I had a little adventure getting here :)
    Geoff Baily: ah tell?
    Riddle Sideways: TGIF, but with Friday comes chaos
    Geoff Baily: ah
    Riddle Sideways: RL get daugther out the door
    Riddle Sideways: then this new computer... hard to find SL landmarks for here
    Geoff Baily: here its afternoon, yes new computer!!
    Geoff Baily: envy
    Geoff Baily: you are lucky
    As a word "Envy" is a strange cross-over word.  I don't think of it as strong as Jealous, etc.  Yet it is not quite a joyous "happy for you" feeling.
    Riddle Sideways: ah envy, but it is my turn
    Geoff Baily: good
    Riddle Sideways: I have not had a new computer in 5 years
    Riddle Sideways: well work ones
    Geoff Baily: two lifetimes
    Geoff Baily: in this techy world
    Riddle Sideways: son and I built this out of the best parts we could find
    Fun spending the time with my son over the holidays researching, comparing ROI, purchasing, unpacking, assembling, powering up, wondering what went wrong and loading it with him.
    Geoff Baily: good for you
    Riddle Sideways: incredible graphics
    Riddle Sideways: it is like I can see SL in a new way
    Geoff Baily: so luckyto be able to do that
    Geoff Baily: more envy!!
    Geoff Baily: i am told my laptop is too small for Sl when I log on, but it works!
    Riddle Sideways: who told you that
    Riddle Sideways: ah the reverse of envy
    Riddle Sideways: the
    Geoff Baily: SL log on system flags it up
    Riddle Sideways: ooo
    Geoff Baily: graphics card too small, and it cant be changed
    Geoff Baily: my little compute shop says the card is welded into this laptop
    Riddle Sideways: most are built into motherboard
    Geoff Baily: yes, bought it cheap lasr summer before I found SL!
    Riddle Sideways: so we can envy others their new computer, car, house, candy jar, etc.
    Riddle Sideways: reverse: tell others they should go get the latest thing
    Geoff Baily: think I will have to get a new one sometime soon
    Geoff Baily: yes tell them so
    Riddle Sideways: but when your own software turns on you...
    Riddle Sideways: telling you it needs a bigger better ...
    Geoff Baily: ah you mean its the selfinterest of the software?
    Riddle Sideways: something like that
    Geoff Baily: i have!!! haha
    Geoff Baily: its taken over
    --BELL--
    Riddle Sideways: each version of windows, SL, adobe, OSx, etc.
    Riddle Sideways: says it needs more, bigger, better
    Riddle Sideways: each new version of life
    Riddle Sideways: says it needs More ...
    Geoff Baily: and Smaller, Mobile, Faster......
    Riddle Sideways: was in an airport. a TV told me I needed a such-n-such product
    Riddle Sideways: I did not even know what that was
    Riddle Sideways: but was not living right without it
    Geoff Baily: yes I have that feeling too of losing track of the leading edge of consumerism
    Geoff Baily: loosing*
    Riddle Sideways: I was way off the path for some time
    Geoff Baily: like a new culture each few monthe
    Riddle Sideways: but lately I did tooooo much checking up
    Geoff Baily: with a new language with all the acronyms
    Riddle Sideways: new computer, new car, new guitar, new job, new smartphone
    Riddle Sideways: all in 3 months
    Geoff Baily: envy again!
    Geoff Baily: you must be doi,g something right
    Geoff Baily: nice
    Riddle Sideways: that what this chat is about.
    Geoff Baily: so true
    Riddle Sideways: am I "doing right" ??
    Riddle Sideways: more stuff
    Riddle Sideways: you can envy, but I have to start more learning curves
    Geoff Baily: by what criteria do you want to be evaluated?
    Riddle Sideways: oh dear, did not want to be evaluated
    Riddle Sideways: that sounds painful
    Geoff Baily: having youungsters means one wants to do one's best for them
    Geoff Baily: sorry didn't mean it that way
    Riddle Sideways: no, go on
    Riddle Sideways: what did you mean
    Geoff Baily: and that is expensive these days
    Geoff Baily: so its not so much for yourself you gaing material things; but for your family
    Geoff Baily: within reason of course
    Riddle Sideways: ah yes
    Riddle Sideways: as we study/play Being's part... hmmm
    Riddle Sideways: as we are Being's youngsters
    Riddle Sideways: we are Being having youngsters
    Geoff Baily: yes, looking back I have found some of Pema's first talks on PaB
    Riddle Sideways: PaB's children
    Geoff Baily: strong image of Being masked by a screen
    Riddle Sideways: PaBc
    Riddle Sideways: the glowing tube window into a second life?
    Riddle Sideways: a life where you are the meta-being who contorls/guides the avatar
    Geoff Baily: and making holes in the screen during each 9 seconda
    Riddle Sideways: like that image
    Geoff Baily: more and more till there is no more screen
    Geoff Baily: yes
    --BELL--
    Geoff Baily: yesterday and today I have been doing 9 seconds making wholes in the screen!!
    Riddle Sideways: it now seems that a 90 sec hole is sooooo large
    Geoff Baily: yesterday and today I have been making wholes in the screen for the 9 sec!!
    Riddle Sideways: wholes :)
    Riddle Sideways: like that
    Geoff Baily: holes/wholes
    Geoff Baily: Pema has some good images there in the logs
    Riddle Sideways: punching holes in the facade and smoothing the parts with wholes
    Geoff Baily: a wholy facade
    Geoff Baily: its wholly a facade
    Riddle Sideways: Pema is not the only one with wholes
    Geoff Baily: we all have holes, I hope
    Riddle Sideways: the logs have a hundred spirits puching wholes
    Geoff Baily: ;)
    Riddle Sideways: there was a dragon here once that had the most amazing view on wholes
    Geoff Baily: tell do
    Riddle Sideways: there was a really good discussion of brain neuron firings between 2 different types of lions
    Geoff Baily: ah
    Riddle Sideways: the adventure is to search through the logs looking for that
    Riddle Sideways: in passing we'll find thoose wholes
    Riddle Sideways: I think I envy those
    Geoff Baily: ok
    Geoff Baily: 1700 lions in SL
    Riddle Sideways: probably, but who counted them
    Riddle Sideways: now they know how many wholes in albert hall
    Geoff Baily: 14300 dragons
    Geoff Baily: I have
    Geoff Baily: just now
    Riddle Sideways: and only 1 Geoff Baily
    Geoff Baily: perhaps I am whole
    Geoff Baily: if so only 1
    Geoff Baily: of me
    --BELL--
    Riddle Sideways: yet you made all of this
    Geoff Baily: we all make all of this all the time
    Geoff Baily: every fraction of a second it's new
    Geoff Baily: first hand, not second hand reality
    Riddle Sideways: then there should be no envy
    Geoff Baily: right
    Riddle Sideways: just amazement
    Geoff Baily: yeeeeeeeees amazzzzzzzzzzzed
    Riddle Sideways: a buddist, a jew and a geek walk into a SL pavilion...
    Geoff Baily: yes
    Riddle Sideways: the bartender says "hey is this a joke..."
    Geoff Baily: haha
    Riddle Sideways: having heard that the world/life is what you make it
    Riddle Sideways: well, a second life is what you create
    Geoff Baily: true
    Riddle Sideways: you've made a nice SL here
    Riddle Sideways: envy
    Geoff Baily: think so?
    Riddle Sideways: yes
    Geoff Baily: so have you
    Geoff Baily: tell me more why you think that, (if i may ask)
    Riddle Sideways: we push/prode little buttons
    Riddle Sideways: and before us becomes a life
    Riddle Sideways: we punch wholes thru the looking glass
    Geoff Baily: yes
    Riddle Sideways: and my/your alice is free
    Riddle Sideways: free to talk of things that mater
    Geoff Baily: so true
    Riddle Sideways: may sound like random chat
    Riddle Sideways: may sound like a run-away AI chat bot
    Riddle Sideways: (well most time I am)
    Riddle Sideways: but, behind and in between the words
    Riddle Sideways: there is a Whole
    Riddle Sideways: a Being
    Riddle Sideways: you made that
    Geoff Baily: but I don't do much else in SL other than be here
    Riddle Sideways: neither do I
    Riddle Sideways: but that is enough
    Geoff Baily: ther are so many things..........
    Riddle Sideways: what... like getting my hair combed?
    Geoff Baily: haha
    Riddle Sideways: well, there is a plot of land that I can't build correctly on
    Riddle Sideways: my house of cards keeps falling
    Geoff Baily: true, but I have heard there are good concerts
    Geoff Baily: here in SL
    Riddle Sideways: and there are good conferences
    --BELL--
    Geoff Baily: haven't tried to build anything
    Riddle Sideways: talks/presentations by world famous
    Riddle Sideways: and there is a little bell
    Geoff Baily: I do take your point Riddle
    Riddle Sideways: and I yours
    Geoff Baily: ;)
    Riddle Sideways: now I need to go punch wholes in a RL situation
    Geoff Baily: bye thanks
    Riddle Sideways: bye and thanks
    Geoff Baily: nice time
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