2010.01.20 13:00 - This is not a chat log

The Guardian for this meeting was Storm Nordwind. The comments are by Fefonz Quan.

Flux Constantine: hi
Qt Core: hi Flux
Flux Constantine: I'm looking at the wiki
Flux Constantine: is that your page, with the quote from Tilopa?
Qt Core: i think it is
Flux Constantine: very nice
Qt Core: planned about adding rthings but never got the time
Flux Constantine: ah
--BELL--
Flux Constantine: I have a book: Buddhist Masters of Enchantment: Lives and Legends of the Mahasiddhas
Qt Core: hi Storm
Storm Nordwind: Hi Qt. Hi Flux
Flux Constantine: hi
Storm Nordwind: Sitting on the outer cushions today?
Qt Core: i think i have several (unread) books about buddism :-)
Flux Constantine: this one has illustrations, and only a page or two of text about each of the mahasiddhas
Storm Nordwind: Hi SophiaSharon!
SophiaSharon Larnia: Hi All :))
Storm Nordwind: Are you talking of Dowman's book Flux?
Flux Constantine: yes
Storm Nordwind: I have it here
Flux Constantine: ah, nice
Flux Constantine: Qt had a Tilopa quote on his wiki page
Storm Nordwind: Tilopa the enigmatic ;)
Flux Constantine: was Tilopa Naropa's teacher?
Storm Nordwind: Certainly one of them I believe
Flux Constantine: he tried to feed him fish guts, and said, "how can a gourmet attain enlightenment?" or something like this
Storm Nordwind chuckles
SophiaSharon Larnia: Hi Aubergine
Storm Nordwind: Hello Aubergine :)
Aubergine Mint: hi everyone
Flux Constantine: dowman has a web site, also... keithdowman.net
Storm Nordwind: Yes I have seen it. I was in contact with him a few days ago.
Flux Constantine: ah, interesting
Flux Constantine: so what's the news? is everyone enlightened yet? :)
Storm Nordwind looks around
Flux Constantine: hehe
SophiaSharon Larnia: hmm
Storm Nordwind: Mostly it seems ;)
Qt Core: i'm not... and a personal sl light may not alp ;-)
Qt Core: alp=help
Storm Nordwind: I was after a copy of Indrabhuti's Jnanasiddhi, obviously in English preferably, but Tibetan or Sanskrit would do! I hoped Keith would know.
SophiaSharon Larnia: brb
Storm Nordwind: By the way, I think Fefonz is due for this slot but emailed that he may not make it. I've grabbed the log for now.
Qt Core: is it so hard to find that amazon could not help, storm ?
Storm Nordwind: It is very hard to find yes Qt. The only publication I've located so far was published in 1929 in India and is long out of print
Flux Constantine: hmm
Flux Constantine: google says: http://vajranatha.com/teaching/Dakinis.htm
Flux Constantine: I don't know what this is, but it mentions dakinis, so it can't be half bad
Storm Nordwind chuckles
Storm Nordwind: er... yes... they do get quite an enthusiastic audience! ;)
Storm Nordwind: Who knows... perhaps one day, in centuries to come, someone will be trying to find the first chat logs of Play as Being now that it has (by then) spread around the globe :)
Aubergine Mint: :)
Flux Constantine: yes, sometimes it turns out to be surprisingly important what you say. it turns out someone was taking it seriously
SophiaSharon Larnia: sorry back and reading... why do dakinis get an enthusiastic audience, can you explain?
Storm Nordwind: Dakinis are often 'used' as Yidams in Buddhist tantric practice.
Storm Nordwind: They become the focus for the tantrika
SophiaSharon Larnia: yes, i thought maybe it was something more than obvious, something i was missing
SophiaSharon Larnia: obvious*
SophiaSharon Larnia: HI Mickorod
Mickorod Renard: Hiya
Storm Nordwind: I think that any deity that you 'become' during tantric practice tends to get an enthusiastic regard :)
Storm Nordwind: Hi Mick the wet-footed
--BELL--
Flux Constantine: Storm, are you familiar with Namkhai Norbu Rinpoche?
Qt Core: hi mick
Storm Nordwind: I have not read his teachings. How familiar do you want Flux? ;)
Flux Constantine: I don't know
Flux Constantine: whatever you've got is fine :)
Storm Nordwind: Ecosia is your friend, as is Wikipedia :)
Flux Constantine: what's Ecosia? not familiar
Storm Nordwind: Something Bertram (I think) told us about. A 'green' search engine it is claimed. http://www.ecosia.org
Flux Constantine: damn, now I have to save the earth while doing these searches?
Flux Constantine: I was just going to destroy everything...
Storm Nordwind: Frittering rather than saving is your predeliction? :)
Flux Constantine: that sounds accurate
SophiaSharon Larnia: why
Flux Constantine: good question
Storm Nordwind: And the accompanying good answer is? ...
SophiaSharon Larnia: Hi Wol :)
Wol Euler: hello everyone, sorry I'm late
Mickorod Renard: Hi Wol
Aubergine Mint: hi wol
Flux Constantine: it was there to be frittered, I couldn't help it
Qt Core: hi wol
Storm Nordwind: Hi Wol sans label
Wol Euler: :)
SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
Storm Nordwind: We have no topic yet Wol. Unless we count Flux's frittering :)
Flux Constantine: no label... kind of a Naomi Klein thing
Wol Euler: or an awkward kind of joke
SophiaSharon Larnia: brb
Wol Euler: "This is not a group tag"
Storm Nordwind: "ceci n'est pas un tag"
Wol Euler: exactement
Wol Euler: I'll use that!
SophiaSharon Larnia: what does that mean?
Wol Euler: it's an art history reference :) "This is not a pipe" was the title of a painting of a pipe by Rene Magritte
Storm Nordwind: It's a parody of Magritte, which is a parody of...
Wol Euler: ah, it's too long :(
SophiaSharon Larnia: ah thanks :)
Storm Nordwind: Quite the intellectual session this one ;)
Wol Euler smiles. I miss intellectuality, hanging out in the office so much.
SophiaSharon Larnia: lol
Storm Nordwind: Surely there are compensations? Pizza for example ;)
Wol Euler: only when I order it myself!
Wol Euler: bah. humbug.
Flux Constantine: I'll order you a pizza. I think I can dial internationally
Storm Nordwind: But can you dial with intentionality? :)
Wol Euler: heheheheh
Flux Constantine: Can you drop intentionality?
Wol Euler: and great mindfulness
Qt Core: i hhope you do only intentional international call ;-)
--BELL--
Flux Constantine: no, I just pick up and say "call anyone"
Aubergine Mint: so much for intellectuality, hehe
Mickorod Renard: Hi Ara
SophiaSharon Larnia: i ordered pizza on a pennsylvania cell phone in california once and they wouldnt take the order until i called from a california number
arabella Ella whispers hiya
SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Ara
Storm Nordwind waves
Qt Core: hi Ara
Storm Nordwind: Hello ara!
arabella Ella: Ciao Qt!
SophiaSharon Larnia: did I talk over the bell, Im sorry
arabella Ella: Hiya storm and all!
Wol Euler: hello ara
Aubergine Mint: hi ara
Storm Nordwind: Pizza is important Sharon! :)
Wol Euler grins broadly. We'll be meeting in RL in ... four days?
SophiaSharon Larnia: wow!! already!!
Storm Nordwind: So soon? Wow!
arabella Ella: yes Wol i am really looking forward to it
Flux Constantine: and again I'm not invited?
Flux Constantine: :)
Wol Euler: :)
arabella Ella: I went to visit the meditation farmhouse today to see it again and see that all is in order and i got the keys too :)
Mickorod Renard: is it ok?
Storm Nordwind: Put your money where your mouth is, Flux, and I'm sure you'll be able to go along
arabella Ella: and the weather and greenery were fantastic
arabella Ella: and
Mickorod Renard: yes?
Flux Constantine: always have to pay to play, I guess
arabella Ella: there is an almond blossom tree ... blossoming ... wild ... right outside meditation farmhouse
SophiaSharon Larnia: oooh
Mickorod Renard: nice
arabella Ella: i just hope we will have walking meditation too ... must persuade Pema
Wol Euler smiles.
SophiaSharon Larnia: Im sure he will!
arabella Ella: if the weather keeps
Mickorod Renard: we may all be wheel chair bound
Flux Constantine: sorry, is this a Europe or US meeting?
Flux Constantine hears a pin drop
arabella Ella: Hiya Flux
arabella Ella: sorry had an IM
Flux Constantine: howdy
Qt Core: malta in the mediterranean
Flux Constantine: I see
arabella Ella: it will be in Malta a little island in the Mediterranean
arabella Ella: do you know it?
arabella Ella: it is where I am from
Flux Constantine: vaguely
arabella Ella: oh seems like i have lag
arabella Ella: apologies my chat is not appearing in the order typed due to lag i guess
Flux Constantine: I think Hemingway mentioned it
Wol Euler: hello calvino
SophiaSharon Larnia: Hi Calvino
Mickorod Renard: Hi Cal
arabella Ella: Hiya Calvino!
Storm Nordwind: Hi Cal
Calvino Rabeni: Hi, everyone !
Flux Constantine: hi
Aubergine Mint: hi cal
Wol Euler: "I see you shiver with anticip..."
SophiaSharon Larnia: Oh I wish so much I could go, it's cold and dreary here, and it would be the perfect pick me up :)
arabella Ella: so as i said i visited meditation farmhouse this afternoon and i am desperately hoping the weather will be as it was today
Flux Constantine: "we're not praying for a weather change" --thus said Stim in his Berkeley recordings
Storm Nordwind: Do you have a schedule planned ara?
arabella Ella: well i suggest good walking boots for walking on spikey rocks
Wol Euler: Stim won't be there.
arabella Ella: and some warm clothes as it could get cold at night
Flux Constantine: but his words live on, in my memory :)
arabella Ella: my schedule so far is planned for the days before and after ... part taxi part tour guide :)
arabella Ella: the rest is up to Pema and Eos
Mickorod Renard: I wonder whether memory is a freak accident of nature
arabella Ella: in what sense?
SophiaSharon Larnia: i dont think so Mick, we couldnt survive without some sort of memory
Mickorod Renard: well, I am not sure it serves a necessary purpose
SophiaSharon Larnia: if i find food, i must remember where it was
Wol Euler: all animals have it though, so I'm sure it is of some use...
Storm Nordwind: On the California retreat we had a silent day too, and some people liked that. Are you planning one of those?
Wol Euler grins hopefully
arabella Ella: @ Flux ... Malta is 92 kilometers (60 miles) south of Sicily
Flux Constantine: ok, I'll be there in five minutes
arabella Ella: :)
Mickorod Renard: silence may be too much for me
arabella Ella: are u up the road?
Wol Euler: try it and see :)
Mickorod Renard: I may crack up
Mickorod Renard: he he
Flux Constantine: that's the fun part
Storm Nordwind: waterwings are provided at the start of your swim from Palermo
Qt Core: silence outside it is, mick...
Mickorod Renard: must remember to pack my axe
arabella Ella: where are you based Flux?
Flux Constantine: I'm in the US - Arizona
Flux Constantine: so, yeah, it takes some effort to haul my sorry carcass over there
arabella Ella: ah ... different time zone ... different culture ... lots of differences ... i have been to Phoenix
Flux Constantine: oh, you noticed a culture here?
Flux Constantine: I must have missed something
Storm Nordwind: yes. in a petri dish
arabella Ella: of course there is a culture
Flux Constantine: haha
SophiaSharon Larnia: lol
--BELL--
arabella Ella: it is up to Pema i guess
Wol Euler: whether the US has a culture?
Wol Euler scrolls back to read again
Flux Constantine: yes, can he tell us that, please
arabella Ella: Pema gives more culture to the US, Storm too
SophiaSharon Larnia: nods
Mickorod Renard: I know the US well,,I see lots of John Wayne films
arabella Ella: apologies Wol as I said my chat is going crazy tonight
Wol Euler: no worries :)
Flux Constantine: Mickorod, where are you from, again?
Mickorod Renard: :)
Mickorod Renard: the UK
Flux Constantine: I know Ireland well from listening to a lot of U2
Mickorod Renard: he he
Storm Nordwind: That's like saying "You're from Arizona. yes I know Canada quite well!" ;)
Wol Euler shudders.
Flux Constantine: well, I naturally assume I was James Joyce in a past life
Wol Euler: hello eliza
Mickorod Renard: Hi Eliza
Flux Constantine: I still don't understand Finnegans Wake though. guess I forgot
Eliza Madrigal waves... brb
Storm Nordwind: Hi Ms. Madrigal!
SophiaSharon Larnia: HI Eliza, and bye for now!
SophiaSharon Larnia: have to go
Mickorod Renard: bye S S L
Storm Nordwind: Bye Sharon
Wol Euler: bye sharon, take care
arabella Ella: can you do stream of consciousness then Flux?
Flux Constantine: what do you think this is? :)
arabella Ella: oh perhaps a more modern version?
arabella Ella: perhaps i am a bit ... old fashioned ...
Flux Constantine: well they had to go and invent all these fucking computers
Mickorod Renard: cool
Flux Constantine: but at least the pornography is much better
Wol Euler raises an eyebrow.
arabella Ella: i went to watch avatar tonight ... i think it is really brilliant
Mickorod Renard: raises two eyebrows
Flux Constantine: eyebrows back down, everyone
Storm Nordwind: In 3D ara?
Mickorod Renard: :)
arabella Ella: yes
arabella Ella: i simply loved it ... would gladly watch it again
Flux Constantine: I tried to watch it, but walked out in the middle
Flux Constantine: I had to go fritter away my time somewhere else
Eliza Madrigal: Hi, apologize for the darting back and forth... thanks for all the hello's before no need to repeat. hah
arabella Ella: well some people have all the time in the world i guess
Flux Constantine: we each have 24 hours per day, I think
Wol Euler: :)
Mickorod Renard: I usually sleep through them,,but I found the new sherlock holmes captivating
Storm Nordwind: Isn't that his job Mick?
Mickorod Renard: to sleep?
Mickorod Renard: not sure
Storm Nordwind: To captivate criminals
Mickorod Renard: ahh, i see,,well deduced
Flux Constantine: anyone watch Dollhouse?
Mickorod Renard: may have years ago
arabella Ella: should i raise an eyebrow there Flux?
Flux Constantine: ara: if you like :)
Flux Constantine: but it's just an american TV show
arabella Ella: no clue
Mickorod Renard: can anyone remember 'chesty morgan'?
arabella Ella: no
Eliza Madrigal: no clue to either
Wol Euler: sorry
Flux Constantine: Chesty Morgan is a Polish-born Jewish[1] exotic dancer who starred in two films directed by Doris Wishman.
Storm Nordwind: You're showing your age Mick
Mickorod Renard: see,,having no memory is a benefit
Calvino Rabeni: Calvino Rabeni slips out quietly for RL meeting.
Flux Constantine: but Wikipedia remembered that, not me
Storm Nordwind: That was obvious Flux
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Flux Constantine: isn't my role here to repeat obvious statements?
Storm Nordwind: no
Flux Constantine: oops
--BELL--
arabella Ella: should we allocate a role to you?
Aubergine Mint: bye everyone
Flux Constantine: court jester?
Storm Nordwind waves
Eliza Madrigal: Bye Aubergine :)
Mickorod Renard: bye aub
Wol Euler: bye aubergine, take care
Eliza Madrigal prefers to wear the bells...
Flux Constantine: just give me a dunce cap, I'll sit in the corner
Storm Nordwind: promise?
Flux Constantine: I'm probably lying
arabella Ella: your choice dont say you were coerced now
Mickorod Renard: ok,,am going somewhere
Mickorod Renard: byeeeeeee
Qt Core: time to go
Qt Core: time
Wol Euler: bye mick, take care
arabella Ella: bye Mick notte Qt
Storm Nordwind: The hour is up
Wol Euler: and bye qt
Qt Core: bye all, have fun
Eliza Madrigal: :) Bye Mick Qt, Ara
arabella Ella: I must go too
arabella Ella: bye all
Wol Euler: bye storm, ara
Storm Nordwind: Bye then!
Eliza Madrigal signed on for just a minute actually just to try a new trick... but was lured by friendly faces
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Wol Euler: ah :)
Flux Constantine: so now the real party starts? :)
Eliza Madrigal: Guess so
Eliza Madrigal waits... wonders....
Eliza Madrigal: Good that you found a moment, Wol
Wol Euler: well, I was glad to get out of the office "early" for once
Eliza Madrigal: :) yes, congratulations!
Eliza Madrigal: When do you travel?
Wol Euler: monday morning early
Flux Constantine: where are you headed?
Wol Euler: to the retreat in malta
Flux Constantine: oh, right.
Flux Constantine: I'm a little slow, apparently :)
Eliza Madrigal: Ah :) Hope that it will be a concentrated restful period for you... let me know if there is beer day
Wol Euler: heheheheheh
Wol Euler: there will definitely be one in october!
Wol Euler: followed by the silent day to nurse our hangovers
Eliza Madrigal: :) hahaha
Flux Constantine: let's just do everything NOW
Flux Constantine: what's with all these timing issues? :)
Wol Euler: patience, grasshopper.
Flux Constantine bows
Flux Constantine tries to snatch the pebble from your hand
Eliza Madrigal: Well I'm excited for you all :) I better get going though... argument breaking out over potato skins in the kitchen :)
Wol Euler: jheheheh
Wol Euler: wield a big spatula
Flux Constantine: sign of the times... we have weighty issues to deal with
Eliza Madrigal: :))
Eliza Madrigal: Bye for now !
Wol Euler: bye eliza
Flux Constantine: and then there were two
Wol Euler: I'm off too actually, sad to say.
Flux Constantine: oh well