2013.09.04 13:00 - still on phone?

The Guardian for this meeting was Santoshima Resident. The comments are by Santoshima Resident.

Santoshima Resident: 's current display-name is "San".
Santoshima Resident: hi Zon
Zon Kwan: hi san
Santoshima Resident: how're you today?
Zon Kwan: good and tired
Zon Kwan: how are you ?
Santoshima Resident: good and rested :)
Zon Kwan: well there is a balance then
Santoshima Resident: mid-day here
Zon Kwan: and late evening here
Santoshima Resident: what stood out most for you this waking day?
Zon Kwan: business
Zon Kwan: or busy ness
Zon Kwan: and how to maintain focussed
Zon Kwan: when under stress
Santoshima Resident: how?
Zon Kwan: by being present
Santoshima Resident: :)
Santoshima Resident: does that reduce the stress?
Zon Kwan: yes
Zon Kwan: there is no stress in the moment
Santoshima Resident: how about, the busyness?
Zon Kwan: only if i try to rush to another moment
Santoshima Resident: i see
Zon Kwan: then stress comes
Santoshima Resident: can relate to that

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Zon Kwan: hi korel
Korel Laloix: heya
Santoshima Resident: hi korel :)
Korel Laloix: on phone
Santoshima Resident: any thoughts about the topic on the board? "intention of kindness"
Korel Laloix: being on hold is no fun
Korel Laloix: had some new thoughts on that
Zon Kwan: is it for unkind people
Zon Kwan: a need for intention to be kind
Korel Laloix: thinking about friends who do stupid things.... should i be nice... or tell them to wake up
Santoshima Resident: what's "nice"?
Zon Kwan: both
Korel Laloix: which is more kind?
Zon Kwan: tell nicely to wake up
Korel Laloix: supporting mybe?
Korel Laloix: And I am sure I am in need of some honest feedback from time to time as well.
Korel Laloix: But what is the line between helping someone that needs some feedback..... vs just being nice to them and watching them self destruct.
Korel Laloix: Reason I am thinking of this is watching close friends date complete assholes.
Korel Laloix: Had to watch.
Santoshima Resident: difficult
Korel Laloix: Hard
Zon Kwan: nods
Santoshima Resident: and had
Korel Laloix: yes
Zon Kwan: waves
Santoshima Resident: bye zon ~ waves
Santoshima Resident: have grown fond of the term horse's ass, or jackass ... but seems a disservice to horses and mules
Santoshima Resident: at times
Santoshima Resident: most times
Santoshima Resident: still on the phone?
Korel Laloix: yes
Korel Laloix: The sad part is watching them blame themselves for the guys treating the like dirt.
Korel Laloix: them
Santoshima Resident: socialized female
Korel Laloix: I just want to slap sometimes... grrrrr
Santoshima Resident: how do we face the hatred of women and how that is internalized
Santoshima Resident: slapping, one way :)
Korel Laloix: I am guilty as well ... I know.
Santoshima Resident: how so?
Korel Laloix: I dated some very unhealthy women in my life ... and could not see that until years later.
Santoshima Resident: you learned from the experience, though?
Santoshima Resident: somehow you came through
Korel Laloix: With therapy ... and Raffi's help.

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Santoshima Resident: our Raffi?
Korel Laloix: Yes.... we had some long chats and she helped sort through some things.
Korel Laloix: PaB is good for free therapy as I have said before... smiles
Santoshima Resident: sometimes
Korel Laloix: It has been good for me at least.
Korel Laloix: I think the mild anonymity helps me be a bit more open about some things.
Santoshima Resident: you asked for help/guidance
Santoshima Resident: your friend(s) not doing that
Santoshima Resident: so telling them won't likely help
Santoshima Resident: but it might help you
Santoshima Resident: and in that way be of assistance to them
Santoshima Resident: imo
Korel Laloix: True ... but one did ask ... frowns ... and I said what I thought ... and went nowhere.
Korel Laloix: Oh well ... I can't solve my own issues a lot of the time, let alone others.
Santoshima Resident: keep saying it
Santoshima Resident: still on phone?
Korel Laloix: Just off.
Santoshima Resident: i shall sally forth to the treehouse for a bit. you are welcome to join me
Korel Laloix: OH Ok ... smiles

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