2013.09.26 13:00 - Carrying a Torch

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Agatha Macbeth. The comments are by Agatha Macbeth.

     

    DR42 Resident: 's current display-name is "Marjorie Chardin".
    --BELL--1300
    Wol Euler: hello maude, nice to see you again
    DR42 Resident: Hi, I didn't expect anyone else to show up!
    Wol Euler smiles.
    Wol Euler: how are you today?
    DR42 Resident: Fine, a bit tired. Trying to fix my PC.
    Wol Euler: :)
    DR42 Resident: How is your world?
    Wol Euler: tiring too
    Wol Euler: turning chilly, winter approaches
    DR42 Resident: Yea, finally had to turn the wood stove on.
    Wol Euler: I thought this evening as I walked home from work that I might go straight from the lightweight summer jacket to a fall coat, without the usual N weeks in my lined leather jacket
    DR42 Resident: My lined leather jacket is for winter, along with a "P" Coat.
    Wol Euler: wht's a P coat?
    Wol Euler: upside down bustle?
    DR42 Resident: Styled after a coat used by the US Navy. I guess it is officially a Pea Coat.
    DR42 Resident: Double breasted, turn out collar, Knee length. Warm.
    Wol Euler: nice
    Wol Euler does a google image search
    Agatha Macbeth: 's current display-name is "Aggers".
    Wol Euler: ah, yes, okay
    Wol Euler: hello aggers
    Agatha Macbeth: Here I am
    Agatha Macbeth: Couldn't think what to put on
    DR42 Resident: There you are.
    Wol Euler smiles.
    DR42 Resident: I don't change clothes often, so I never have that problem
    Agatha Macbeth: Well been a while since I wore this
    Wol Euler nods.
    Wol Euler: quite marine-looking
    Wol Euler: landlocked mermaid
    Agatha Macbeth: Aqua marina
    Agatha Macbeth: How's yer gums?
    Wol Euler remembers Stingray on b/w tv many decades ago.
    Wol Euler: better thanks
    Agatha Macbeth: Glad to hear it
    --BELL--1315
    Wol Euler: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPu9mLfLoOA <- my childhood
    Agatha Macbeth: Good to see SSB seems to have been a success
    DR42 Resident: SSB?
    Agatha Macbeth: Or is it SSA?
    DR42 Resident: Either LL changed the name.
    Agatha Macbeth: Ah
    Agatha Macbeth: Good of them
    Agatha Macbeth: Well it seems to work anyway
    DR42 Resident: Performance and gray AVs seem much worse than before. Seems to be no gain noticeable, possible some loss.
    Agatha Macbeth: I haven't noticed any grey avs for ages
    Agatha Macbeth: And nothing seems blurred any more
    DR42 Resident: At a bunch at the Parkinson's area today.
    Wol Euler: oh, lucky you: I have the opposite experience, it seems to me that unfocussed textures are far more common now than before
    Wol Euler: and ctrl-alt-R does no good
    Agatha Macbeth: Really?
    Agatha Macbeth: How odd
    Agatha Macbeth: It's improved around here no end
    Agatha Macbeth: Blurred avs were always a pain when I used Phoenix
    Wol Euler: hmmmm
    Agatha Macbeth: Berti found the same
    Wol Euler: okay, the average is much better. On the whole it's a great improvement. My belief is that it sometimes gets stuck, and cannot unstick itself
    Wol Euler: the system believes that the av is fully baked and will not rebake
    Agatha Macbeth: Hm, how would that happen?
    Wol Euler: dunno
    Wol Euler: just my attempt to interpret what I see
    Agatha Macbeth: How does SL know when you're fully baked anyway?
    DR42 Resident: Viewer asks for the baked texture and the server sends it, kind of like any other texture. It knows when all the data has been sent. Sometimes it doesn't all get there, however.
    Wol Euler nods.
    Agatha Macbeth: Hm
    Wol Euler: and just as before it puts together a combined texture from your skin and clothes
    Agatha Macbeth: Complicated
    DR42 Resident: And that combined work is done in the server.
    Wol Euler: now, yes; that is the change
    Agatha Macbeth: Which is why it should in theory be quicker?
    DR42 Resident: Rather than the viewer, where it used to be done.
    Wol Euler: right
    Wol Euler: and also harder for copybots to steal textures, because there's only one
    Agatha Macbeth: Oh good
    DR42 Resident: Yea. You used to be able to click on someones clothes and see who made them. Cannot do that anymore, either.
    Agatha Macbeth: Aww
    Agatha Macbeth: I did that quite a lot at one time
    Wol Euler: prims you still can
    Wol Euler: but not mesh or texture
    DR42 Resident: Yea, to see where to get something you really liked. Now you have to ask the owner where to get it.
    Agatha Macbeth: True
    --BELL--1330
    DR42 Resident: And there is no "autofit" either, you have to use reshaper skin layers or change your shape to fit some outfits. Kind of one size fits only a feww.
    Agatha Macbeth: Wonder if it makes things easier for the designers or more difficult?
    DR42 Resident: Anyone overcome an obstacle to world peace this week?
    DR42 Resident: harder.
    Wol Euler: world peace, no.
    Agatha Macbeth: Peace in our time
    Wol Euler: not sure where I'd look for one, actually.
    Wol Euler lifts the corner of the carpet curiuosly.
    Agatha Macbeth: Time to hoover?
    Santoshima Resident: 's current display-name is "San".
    Agatha Macbeth: Hello San
    Santoshima Resident: hello :)
    DR42 Resident: ηαмαѕтє
    Wol Euler: hello san
    Wol Euler: how about you, Marge? Have you helped world peace along this week?
    DR42 Resident: Only tried to make people around me a bit happier.
    Agatha Macbeth: That's always a start
    Wol Euler: that counts.
    DR42 Resident: Think global, act local.
    Wol Euler: well, that seems to have exhausted that topic.
    Santoshima Resident: making tea
    Agatha Macbeth: Maybe it was an exhausting topic
    Wol Euler nods.
    Santoshima Resident: what's the listed topic?
    Wol Euler looks at the board.
    Santoshima Resident: do we need to exhaust it?
    Wol Euler: we might need to ventilate the room
    DR42 Resident: Maybe a bit too focused.
    Agatha Macbeth: Wasn't me :p
    Santoshima Resident: hmm, perhaps not wisely i've de-rezzed all the billboards at the Pabvilion
    Santoshima Resident: never know now what's on the menu
    Agatha Macbeth: Oh
    Santoshima Resident: a surprise
    Agatha Macbeth: Can't you get them back?
    DR42 Resident: You can get them back.
    Santoshima Resident: sure
    Santoshima Resident: they are too ugly
    Santoshima Resident: so not particularly wishing to
    DR42 Resident: I have de-rezed most of this area, only leaving the basic building and the schedule
    Agatha Macbeth: A few of the trees could go to be honest
    Santoshima Resident: truly
    Santoshima Resident: and some of the roses
    Santoshima Resident: oh, nix that comment
    --BELL--1345
    Santoshima Resident: how can one look through the camera of another's computer?
    Santoshima Resident: i've heard that can be done
    Wol Euler: piggybacking on their avatar as it were?
    Wol Euler: I believe it can not
    Wol Euler: well it might be possible to set your camera parallel to that other person by scripting
    Santoshima Resident: i see
    Wol Euler: but you won't see exactly what they see (unless the Lindens have really screwed up) because that would be a security/privacy hole
    Santoshima Resident: hmm, it is not something i seek to do. but have heard it has been done. viewing the typist through their computer camera
    Wol Euler: oh!
    Wol Euler: that is not what I thought you meant, sorry
    Agatha Macbeth: Say cheese
    Santoshima Resident: (not a conspiraccy theroy ... just heard recetnly ... and curiosity piqued
    Wol Euler: yes, that can be done. It's illegal in nearly every country, because it is hacking
    Santoshima Resident: yes, that is what i thought
    Wol Euler: if you can get control of their computer via black-hat tricks, then you do indeed have control.
    Santoshima Resident: it sounds to be illegal and grossly unethical
    Wol Euler: you can turn on their camera and look through it, turn on thier microphone and listen to them
    Santoshima Resident: hmm
    DR42 Resident: If they make the camera accessible, you could use a web browser to access it.
    Santoshima Resident: i see
    Wol Euler: absolutely, yes
    Santoshima Resident: a portal
    Wol Euler: mmhmm
    DR42 Resident: There is a program called VNC, I think, that lets you take over their computer, keyboard, mouse, and all. If they allow you access to it.
    Santoshima Resident: i see
    Santoshima Resident: ty
    Wol Euler: yes, that is the "white hat" version, for remote fixing
    Wol Euler: many companies use it
    DR42 Resident: It is great if there are PCs in the server area that you don't want to get up and run too all the time.
    Wol Euler: yep
    Santoshima Resident: it was the "black hat" version that I had been warned about
    Santoshima Resident: and i will look into further for information
    DR42 Resident: My sister and I have it installed, so I can fix her PC from 150 miles away.
    Wol Euler smiles.
    Santoshima Resident: oh, that's a great solution
    DR42 Resident: It is freeware.
    Santoshima Resident: so ... thinking ... ethics as a basis for peace
    Santoshima Resident: if that is the topic
    Santoshima Resident: is what i have to offer, since i can't offer tea
    Wol Euler: :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Tea up
    Agatha Macbeth: C'mon Wollie your turn ;)
    Wol Euler raises her cup of Darjeeling.
    DR42 Resident: There was a song called "The Commercial" by Spanky and our Gang, I think.
    Santoshima Resident: hum a little?
    Agatha Macbeth: There once was a girl from Darjeeling
    Santoshima Resident: does anyone here use the invitation of tea to mean an invitation to conversation?
    Agatha Macbeth slurps
    --BELL--1400
    Wol Euler: not since moving to Germany, we say "let's have coffee" when we mean "we need a short meeting"
    Santoshima Resident: ah! even better
    Agatha Macbeth: Like Cagney and Lacey in the toilet
    Wol Euler raises an eyebrow.
    DR42 Resident: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAp8VgMrpRA From 1967.
    Agatha Macbeth: Wonder why Paradise has rezzed a torch in mid air?

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    Wol Euler: I assume she dropped it there. I told her, but she didn'T figure out that I meant she should take it away
    Wol Euler: maude, that was fun :)
    DR42 Resident: Yea, kind of funny.
    DR42 Resident: And short.
    Agatha Macbeth: Just seems an odd place for it#
    Wol Euler: like I said, I assume she dropped it
    Agatha Macbeth: Dropped it upwards?
    Wol Euler shrugs
    Agatha Macbeth: Where's Isaac?
    DR42 Resident: It's derendered for me. cannot see it.
    Agatha Macbeth: Ah gone
    Agatha Macbeth: One less prim for Storm to worry about
    Wol Euler nods.
    Agatha Macbeth: And so saying San crashed
    Agatha Macbeth: Anyone know how Colorado's doing?
    DR42 Resident: Nope, hasn't made the new lately. I guess they are trying to figure out what to do next.
    Agatha Macbeth: Oh dear
    Agatha Macbeth: And we complain about our weather
    DR42 Resident: Flood is about 2000 sq miles, many bridges and roads are out.
    Agatha Macbeth: Wow, ark time
    Wol Euler: definitely wow
    Agatha Macbeth: That's some serious water
    Wol Euler: my dears, I'm going to move on to some serious bed
    Wol Euler: goodngiht, take care, be safe and dry
    Wol Euler: and enjoy your tea
    Agatha Macbeth: US does seem to have had some dreadful weather lately
    Wol Euler: for world peace
    Agatha Macbeth: Sleep well Wollie
    Wol Euler smiles.
    Wol Euler: you too, m'dear
    DR42 Resident: http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/n...loods/2876525/
    DR42 Resident: bye for me as well. Dinner time.
    Agatha Macbeth: Ok bon apetit

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