2013.09.15 13:00 - Love from the fish

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    [12:53] DR42 Resident: Taking a bath?
    [12:54] FcSeeker Resident: do you see something in the water ?
    [12:54] FcSeeker Resident: a fish ?
    [12:54] DR42 Resident: Me, and a book.
    [12:54] FcSeeker Resident: oh...you dont see the fish there ?
    [12:54] DR42 Resident: no
    [12:55] FcSeeker Resident: ok
    [12:55] DR42 Resident: I see "Golden Heart on angels hands v3"
    [12:55] FcSeeker Resident: I builded the fish pic outside the water, and didn't see well enough that I accedently 'hided' it into the water, and now I cannot catch it....
    [12:56] FcSeeker Resident: ah; ment that inside the water of the well
    [12:56] FcSeeker Resident: ...the fountain

    [12:56] DR42 Resident: Right click on the water and select "derender"
    [12:56] FcSeeker Resident: ok; I'll try that
    [12:57] FcSeeker Resident: please; guide me step by step; I did not find that word from options I got...
    [12:58] DR42 Resident: Regular menu or the pie menu?
    [12:59] DR42 Resident: When you right click on the water...
    [12:59] FcSeeker Resident: I get the pie menu
    [13:00] DR42 Resident: OK, I need to figure out how to turn it on. Or, right click and select "More..."
    [13:00] FcSeeker Resident: tried that; not such word there
    [13:00] DR42 Resident: If you dont see Derender, and there is another "More..." then click that.
    [13:01] FcSeeker Resident: did; not that word untill cannot 'more' more...
    [13:01] FcSeeker Resident: can it be cuz I'm with very old browser; Nicholas Edition ?
    [13:02] DR42 Resident: What browser are you using?
    [13:02] FcSeeker Resident: NIcholas Edition
    [13:02] DR42 Resident: I never heard of that.
    [13:02] FcSeeker Resident: yea; thougth so; it's truly old one
    [13:02] DR42 Resident: I am using Firestorm.

    [13:03] FcSeeker Resident: **
    [13:03] FcSeeker Resident: I have not learned to use that at all yet; cannot even find how to walk with it :)
    [13:04] FcSeeker Resident: well; I need to leave message to Wol in case she's not appearing here soon; she'll fix it :)***
    [13:04] DR42 Resident: I cannot return it to you.
    [13:04] DR42 Resident: Not enough privs.
    [13:04] FcSeeker Resident: hm* can you lift it up from the water ?
    [13:04] DR42 Resident: Have you tried to carefully move your camera to be under the water?
    [13:05] DR42 Resident: no, I cannot
    [13:05] FcSeeker Resident: yes, but somehow I dont mannage to do that
    [13:05] FcSeeker Resident: ok; I'll leave the message to Wol :))

    [13:05] DR42 Resident: ηαмαѕтє Zon
    [13:05] Zon Kwan: heya
    [13:06] FcSeeker Resident: Hello Zon
    [13:06] FcSeeker Resident: Hello Wol ***
    [13:06] Wol Euler: hello fc, zon, marjorie
    [13:07] DR42 Resident: One way around it would be to grant me permission to edit your objects, and then I would be able to move it, then you would take the permission away.
    [13:07] FcSeeker Resident: there's a new fish inside the water here now; by accedent
    [13:07] DR42 Resident: ηαмαѕтє wol
    [13:07] Zon Kwan: hi wol

    [13:07] DR42 Resident takes a much needed bath.

    [13:07] Wol Euler: that one?
    [13:08] FcSeeker Resident: *yes* :)
    [13:08] Wol Euler smiles
    [13:08] DR42 Resident: Yes. I guess you have privs to move it.
    [13:08] Wol Euler: what was the problem with it?
    [13:08] FcSeeker Resident: ...just wanted to introduce my new friend; I named him as 'Koi'
    [13:08] FcSeeker Resident: it was inside the water...
    [13:09] Wol Euler: as fish should be :)
    [13:09] FcSeeker Resident: thank you :)
    [13:09] FcSeeker Resident: well...it was not to see so easy....
    [13:09] Wol Euler nods.
    [13:09] FcSeeker Resident: and if somebody wants to return it....hm...when somebody wants to return it, it's easy now

    [13:09] Wol Euler: there is a setting in the preferences to allow you to move your viewpoint (camera) into solid objects, like below the water.
    [13:10] Wol Euler: I was able to look underwater and move it that way
    [13:10] Wol Euler: do you want it here?
    [13:10] FcSeeker Resident: I couldn't do that; maybe cuz I'm with Nicholas; it does not do all things anymore
    [13:10] FcSeeker Resident: I'de like it to be here for a while; it's special fish; truly special
    [13:10] Wol Euler: okay, then I'll put it back

    [13:11] FcSeeker Resident: I got it from the friden who needed space to her apartment for fiance to move in
    [13:11] FcSeeker Resident: ah; ok; when you like it to be so, then it shall be so :)***
    [13:11] DR42 Resident: I think FC wanted to be able to pick it up.
    [13:11] FcSeeker Resident: yes I was, but I honour Wol's desicion :)***
    [13:12] Wol Euler: then I am really confused. I thought I was honouring YOUR decision for it to be here.
    [13:12] Wol Euler: it doesn't matter to me, whatever you want

    [13:12] FcSeeker Resident: we are long time friends with Wol, and she's got better thoughs what is good to do here in Pab
    [13:13] Wol Euler: I think it's fine for it to be there. But if *you* wish to take it, then you should.
    [13:13] FcSeeker Resident: well; like you said; fish belongs into the water, but I thought it wouldn't be legal to do so :)
    [13:13] FcSeeker Resident: ah; you know how I believe in sharing ; that fish truly is special
    [13:13] Wol Euler smiles.
    [13:14] FcSeeker Resident: I've talked with the waters and wind; never before communicated with the fish, not to mention that I'de felt LOVE from the fish
    [13:14] FcSeeker Resident: it was sooooo awesome when he moved to live with me and my spouse
    [13:14] DR42 Resident is eating some Chinese candies: lychee, sour plum, guava, and tangerine peal.
    [13:14] FcSeeker Resident: smiles *
    [13:14] Wol Euler smiles.

    [13:16] FcSeeker Resident: then I'de have one question; of the tree in this pic; I know it to be a pine, but what exact 'name' it has, I donno; it's right in front of my balcony, and it' s only one of it's kind around here, even huge much forest near by; it's 'lonly ranger' like I am...meaning my kind around quite amount of the area....
    [13:17] FcSeeker Resident: in case you'de happen to know...
    [13:17] FcSeeker Resident: no worries, if not
    [13:18] Wol Euler: oh, hmm, I do know that. We call them Fichte
    [13:18] Wol Euler: I think that's it, let me check
    [13:19] Wol Euler: no, I'm wrong, that is the wrong name. FC, I don't remember, sorry
    [13:19] Wol Euler: they grow here too
    [13:19] FcSeeker Resident: ok; I've never seen such before *
    [13:20] FcSeeker Resident: this one also is planted; have wondered why they planted only one...
    [13:21] FcSeeker Resident: but she's one of them things I take to be sing that I was ment to move here for a while....; have got many missions in my life, which have lasted 3 years...
    [13:21] DR42 Resident: FC, do you have a picture I could look at?
    [13:21] FcSeeker Resident: oh; you didn't get my inventory offer ?
    [13:21] FcSeeker Resident: I'll give it again
    [13:22] FcSeeker Resident: now +
    [13:22] FcSeeker Resident: ?
    [13:22] DR42 Resident: jot it
    [13:22] FcSeeker Resident: **
    [13:23] FcSeeker Resident: you notice that we create the 'right' triangle ???????
    [13:23] FcSeeker Resident: with our avatars I mean :)*
    [13:24] Wol Euler: :)
    [13:24] PaB Listener: Darren Islar's current display-name is "leaping Panther".
    [13:24] Darren Islar: 's current display-name is "leaping Panther".
    [13:24] DR42 Resident: Western Yellow pine?
    [13:24] Wol Euler: hello darren
    [13:24] Darren Islar: hi there

    [13:24] Wol Euler: Jen, have you been here before?
    [13:25] removed from the log: it is not new for me, but frankly I do not remember were are we?
    [13:25] FcSeeker Resident: Hello Darren
    [13:25] FcSeeker Resident: in Pab's pavillion :)
    [13:25] Wol Euler: okay, let me rephrase my question :) Have you had an introduction to Play as Being, and did you give permission for your comments here to be recorded and published on our website?
    [13:27] Wol Euler: I guess that means "no".
    [13:27] Wol Euler: *** remove him from the log ***

    [13:27] FcSeeker Resident: uh; we are scarey ?
    [13:27] DR42 Resident: Yes, we are very sacry.

    [13:27] Wol Euler: some people scare easily
    [13:27] FcSeeker Resident: huiiiiiiiiii
    [13:27] Darren Islar: we scary?
    [13:28] FcSeeker Resident: 'boooo'
    [13:28] DR42 Resident: and mean and nasty. Sitting on the group W bench.
    [13:28] FcSeeker Resident: hm...
    [13:28] Darren Islar: I wanted to ask if he liked me to collar him :)
    [13:28] DR42 Resident: tip of the hat to Arlo.
    [13:28] FcSeeker Resident: came a story to my mind...
    [13:29] DR42 Resident: http://home.howstuffworks.com/wester...-pine-tree.htm
    [13:31] FcSeeker Resident: yes; that is the tree :)
    [13:31] FcSeeker Resident: thank you *
    [13:32] Wol Euler: you could always IM him and ask, LP :)
    [13:32] Darren Islar: hehe
    [13:32] Darren Islar: he would only run away
    [13:33] Wol Euler: then he's not cut out to be a sub :)
    [13:33] Wol Euler: best to get that settled and out of the way
    [13:34] Darren Islar nods ... that would be my assessment for now
    [13:38] PaB Listener: DR42 Resident's current display-name is "Marjorie Chardin".
    [13:38] DR42 Resident: 's current display-name is "Marjorie Chardin".
    [13:38] Wol Euler: wb marj
    [13:39] Darren Islar: wb
    [13:39] DR42 Resident: ty. Firestorm crashed.
    [13:39] FcSeeker Resident: wv
    [13:39] FcSeeker Resident: wb
    [13:40] Darren Islar: Firstrom crashes less on me lately
    [13:40] FcSeeker Resident: somebody would like to hear a story ?
    [13:40] Wol Euler: sure
    [13:40] Darren Islar: is it a good one? :)
    [13:40] FcSeeker Resident: as that happened loooooooooooooooong time ago ;
    [13:41] FcSeeker Resident: it was times I needed to go physically to bank; no i-net banking in Finland yet
    [13:41] Wol Euler: ancient history :)
    [13:41] FcSeeker Resident: so; I used to go to such clerk, who knew me
    [13:41] Darren Islar: :)
    [13:41] FcSeeker Resident: smiles; yes *
    [13:41] FcSeeker Resident: so; this time the nice clerk said when I went to her;
    [13:42] FcSeeker Resident: "I felt you long time before you came in...but why do I feel bad ?"
    [13:43] FcSeeker Resident: I took an other look of her and said; 'You recieved strength from me to meet some fear of yours to deal with it'
    [13:43] FcSeeker Resident: and she immediately smiled and said; "Oh yes; and I know now what it was, and it's also gone"
    [13:44] Wol Euler smiles.
    [13:44] FcSeeker Resident: such good happens, when ever one either do understand, what's happening in he/she, and if not, asks this very urgent 'why'
    [13:45] FcSeeker Resident: but sadly, it also takes place now and then, that people around, for example in restaurant...or buss (which I must again use a lot), dont have any idea of me and the effect of my presence
    [13:46] FcSeeker Resident: but they always somehow 'connect' their experience to me, but thinks that I'm something to be afraid of...
    [13:47] DR42 Resident: wb Zon
    [13:48] FcSeeker Resident: wb Zon
    [13:48] Darren Islar: hey Zon
    [13:48] Zon Kwan: ty
    [13:49] FcSeeker Resident: *sighs* ah yes...if people could better understand how much there's fears for no reason...
    [13:49] Wol Euler: wb zon
    [13:50] FcSeeker Resident: hm; do you all know, how to identify the reasonable fear and the fear without true reason ?
    [13:50] Wol Euler: other than by thinking about the fear and working out whether it is justified? no
    [13:50] FcSeeker Resident: ah; there is the way to know
    [13:51] FcSeeker Resident: our own body 'speaks'
    [13:51] FcSeeker Resident: when the fear rises from the middriff; a bit above 'tammy'; below the chest
    [13:51] FcSeeker Resident: even if that fear would fill the whole existence
    [13:51] FcSeeker Resident: it is the fear without the true reason
    [13:52] Wol Euler: hmmmm
    [13:52] FcSeeker Resident: that is always so
    [13:52] FcSeeker Resident: when there's something 'wrong in the pic', the fear rises from 'heart'
    [13:53] Wol Euler: where do you feel "true" fear, then? ah, heart.
    [13:53] FcSeeker Resident: that still can be only the worning, that we'de need to check something we have in our mind...
    [13:53] DR42 Resident: People fear things they do not understand.
    [13:54] DR42 Resident: or, things they have been taught to fear.
    [13:54] Wol Euler: people sometimes fear things they understand all to well: a recurrence of a disease, for example
    [13:54] DR42 Resident: Yes, I fear my cancer returning.
    [13:55] FcSeeker Resident: yea...sadly; wish this note shall reach as many people as possible...cuz specially fears without the true reason, makes people to act very bad way...
    [13:55] Darren Islar: hmmmm, what is real fear?
    [13:56] FcSeeker Resident: in case your are in true danger
    [13:56] FcSeeker Resident: for example to act against your own will, or the choice of your spirit...
    [13:56] Darren Islar: the fear that makes your body alert and doesn't last long
    [13:57] Darren Islar: ah ...
    [13:57] Darren Islar: is the fear of the recurrence of a bad disease a real fear?
    [13:58] DR42 Resident: The probality of it happening is high, and goes higher each year.
    [13:58] Wol Euler nods.
    [13:59] FcSeeker Resident: to answer that, one would need to know who is afraid such and why...is one afraid to die, which mostly is own choice, or is one afraid of pain or to live as ill...
    [13:59] Darren Islar nods
    [13:59] FcSeeker Resident: one can be afraid to live also, when life is verrry difficult...
    [14:00] FcSeeker Resident: that mixes the tummy....
    [14:00] FcSeeker Resident: that is the sign, that one should not be afraid to live...
    [14:00] FcSeeker Resident: diarea they say; donno how to spell it, but think that you understand
    [14:01] FcSeeker Resident: when it hit's , the medicine is to say to ones self, that 'I have no reason to be afraid to live'...
    [14:01] Darren Islar: Sometimes I wonder if people would benefit more from learning about death and their own fears for it ... then to fear the cancer itself
    [14:02] Darren Islar: don't get me wrong, I understand that fear
    [14:02] FcSeeker Resident: it sure is understandable...
    [14:03] FcSeeker Resident: well; just last week my son brought me special thanks from his friend, who was to die to stomache cancer...

    [14:03] Darren Islar: but we are so hooked up on staying alive


    [14:03] DR42 Resident: I don't fear death, just the being ill. I have almost died a few times.
    [14:03] Darren Islar nods
    [14:03] FcSeeker Resident: doctors had given him two weeks time in top...but he called me and I met that young man, and he got cured
    [14:04] FcSeeker Resident: just getting to know the truth of the reason (fear) for his cancer...
    [14:05] FcSeeker Resident: ...not so long ago my close, long time friend in RL, had cancer in two organs; liver and the organ next to it, which I donno in english
    [14:05] Wol Euler: pancreas probably
    [14:05] FcSeeker Resident: their treat would hurt the other, so he couldn't get
    [14:05] FcSeeker Resident: yes
    [14:05] FcSeeker Resident: any help from them doctors
    [14:06] FcSeeker Resident: he came to tell me that he'll not be 'around' long anymore; maybe only two months, half a year on top
    [14:06] FcSeeker Resident: well; we had a short chat, and I said that he's not carrying deadly illness unless he want so
    [14:06] FcSeeker Resident: he returned after two weeks and received healing from me
    [14:07] FcSeeker Resident: again he left 'against' the night
    [14:07] FcSeeker Resident: returning after about a week, telling, how 'all was changed' and he stayed over two nights and we talked a lot
    [14:08] FcSeeker Resident: next fall he called me and asked, if he's o.k. now, cuz he felt so good all over...
    [14:08] FcSeeker Resident: he 'only' fixed his thoughts and recieved love from me...
    [14:09] FcSeeker Resident: and 'today' there's a topic here, that 'children should be saved from belief treatments by law'....
    [14:09] FcSeeker Resident: what if some child would like to get my help against the cancer....
    [14:09] FcSeeker Resident: and I'de be a criminal giving my help...
    [14:10] FcSeeker Resident: ....there was long time here, that soooooooooo many children suffered for ear infections; each one stopped it who met me....
    [14:11] Wol Euler nods.
    [14:11] FcSeeker Resident: even if had had infection for years, and eaten medicine
    [14:11] FcSeeker Resident: if ther was even one, who didn't heal....
    [14:12] Darren Islar: will need to go
    [14:12] FcSeeker Resident: have nice time
    [14:12] Wol Euler: bye LP, take care.
    [14:12] Darren Islar: you all too
    [14:12] Zon Kwan: bye leaping
    [14:13] Zon Kwan: leaves to
    [14:13] Zon Kwan: bye
    [14:13] FcSeeker Resident: have nice time
    [14:13] Wol Euler: bye zon, take care
    [14:13] DR42 Resident: bye
    [14:13] Wol Euler smiles.
    [14:14] Wol Euler: bye marjorie, enjoy the rest of the day
    [14:14] FcSeeker Resident: might it be better for this liftle panda to go to sleep also
    [14:14] Wol Euler: yeah, it's getting late for me too
    [14:14] Wol Euler: it was good to seey ou again, FC
    [14:14] FcSeeker Resident: hoping I could help somebody 'out there' :)
    [14:14] FcSeeker Resident: thank you dear *
    [14:14] Wol Euler: take care

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