2013.09.12 13:00 - The Art of Noise

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Agatha Macbeth. The comments are by Agatha Macbeth.

     

    DR42 Resident: 's current display-name is "Marjorie Chardin".
    --BELL--1300
    Agatha Macbeth: 's current display-name is "Aggers".
    Agatha Macbeth: G'day M
    Agatha Macbeth pokes Marj in the ear to see if she's awake
    Wol Euler: 's current display-name is "O rue well".
    Agatha Macbeth: Wollie ♥
    Wol Euler: evening all
    DR42 Resident: Not here
    Agatha Macbeth: How goes it
    Wol Euler: well it goes
    Agatha Macbeth: Well :p
    Wol Euler smiles.
    Agatha Macbeth: Wonder if there's a Rue Well in France?
    Wol Euler: heheheheh
    Wol Euler: if not, there should be
    DR42 Resident: I'll make it to the end of today. 0^0
    Agatha Macbeth: You and yer anagrams
    Wol Euler: angram singular, this is the only one
    Agatha Macbeth: Ah
    Agatha Macbeth: Don't do crosswords then?
    Wol Euler: nah
    Wol Euler: not clever enough for the tricky ones, and too clever for the not-tricky ones
    Agatha Macbeth: Between two stools then
    Wol Euler nods.
    Agatha Macbeth: Hello Zon
    DR42 Resident: There is a Rue Well company out in Ohio the services wells.
    Wol Euler: hello zon
    DR42 Resident: Zon,
    Zon Kwan: heya
    Wol Euler: ha!
    Agatha Macbeth: Wow
    Agatha Macbeth: Wonder if Bruce knows it?
    Agatha Macbeth: Rue well and be happy later
    Wol Euler chuckles.
    Wol Euler: nice.
    Wol Euler: brb
    Agatha Macbeth: Don't go playing WoW or anything
    Agatha Macbeth looks for Zon but he is gone
    DR42 Resident: Zon has been having serious connection problems.
    Agatha Macbeth: Oh
    Agatha Macbeth: Funny I know several people who have said that recently
    DR42 Resident: That Zon is having connection issues?
    --BELL--1315
    Agatha Macbeth: No, that they have
    Agatha Macbeth: Maybe it's an epidemic
    Agatha Macbeth: What's Wol up to?
    Wol Euler: dealing with one of those sudden-but-totally-urgent bodily needs things
    Agatha Macbeth: Oh on the karzie?
    Wol Euler sighs.
    Wol Euler: such a poetic mind you have.
    Wol Euler: yes, I was
    Agatha Macbeth: Well, yeah
    Agatha Macbeth: You could have had one for me
    Wol Euler nods.
    Agatha Macbeth: Crap by proxy
    Wol Euler: I can imagine that being a good business actually
    Agatha Macbeth: Absolutely
    Wol Euler: think of the saving in time and labour
    Agatha Macbeth: Right
    Agatha Macbeth: Some people read the paper while sitting on the toilet
    Wol Euler: if it could be extended to people sleeping for you too, that would be amazing
    Agatha Macbeth: Mmm
    Wol Euler: I'd be one of the sleepers. I'd get paid to do people's sleeping for them
    Wol Euler: win/win
    Agatha Macbeth: The sleeper awakes
    Wol Euler: and goes right back to sleep, after turning on a meter
    Agatha Macbeth: Rip van Euler
    Wol Euler smiles.
    Agatha Macbeth: What is this thing with you and sleep then?
    Wol Euler: I love it. Sleep is one of my favourite activities.
    Wol Euler: I look forward each morning to going to sleep again that night
    Agatha Macbeth: Hm
    Agatha Macbeth: Have you always been that way?
    Wol Euler: I think so
    Agatha Macbeth: Good lord
    Wol Euler smiles.
    Agatha Macbeth: Is it the dreaming part that attracts you?
    Wol Euler: only in part
    Wol Euler: most nights as I turn the lamp off and snuggle down, I think something like "hooray, sleep again"
    Wol Euler: feeling comforted and snuggled and very safe
    Agatha Macbeth: Oh I like that
    Wol Euler is easily pleased.
    Agatha Macbeth: Mmm
    DR42 Resident: I wish I could do that. My sleep is terrible.
    Agatha Macbeth: Awww
    Wol Euler: sorry to hear that, Marj. What goes wrong for you?
    Agatha Macbeth: Mind too active maybe?
    DR42 Resident: Can't fall asleep, then wake up almost exactly 4 hours later.
    Wol Euler: eww
    Agatha Macbeth: perhaps you need to exhaust yourself first
    DR42 Resident: I am usually tired because I got 4 hours of sleep the night before.
    Wol Euler nods.
    DR42 Resident: The only reason I fall asleep is that I take Ambien, and it wears off in about 4 hours.
    Agatha Macbeth: Is that a drug?
    DR42 Resident: Yes
    Agatha Macbeth nods
    Agatha Macbeth: Sounds like Wol needs the exact opposite :p
    Wol Euler smiles.
    Wol Euler: define "need"
    DR42 Resident: Add meds.
    --BELL--1330
    DR42 Resident: as in ADHD
    Agatha Macbeth: Didn't Corvi have that or something like it?
    Wol Euler: I do remember that she had sleep difficulties too, but not the details
    Agatha Macbeth: Hm
    Agatha Macbeth: Have you heard from her BTW?
    Wol Euler: not in a very long time, no
    Agatha Macbeth: :(
    Agatha Macbeth: Hope she's alright
    Wol Euler: I'll send her an e-mail tonight
    Agatha Macbeth smiles

    It goes quiet

    Agatha Macbeth wonders if Wol has gone to bed
    Wol Euler: nope
    Agatha Macbeth: Hehe
    Wol Euler: just gone quiet
    Agatha Macbeth: Whatever happened to the old verbalicious Wollie I wonder
    Wol Euler: I guess she isn't being provoked to flights of fancy by her conversational partners
    Agatha Macbeth: Hm
    Agatha Macbeth: You need Sam and Mary back
    Wol Euler: god forbid
    Wol Euler smiles.
    Agatha Macbeth: HA
    Agatha Macbeth: What was her second name now?
    Wol Euler: O'something?
    Zen Arado: 's current display-name is "Zen".
    Agatha Macbeth: No that was Samuel
    Wol Euler: hello zen
    Wol Euler: ah right
    Agatha Macbeth: I mean Mary
    Agatha Macbeth: Yo Zenny
    Wol Euler: I know, I got it wrong
    Wol Euler: what a strange typing animation
    Zen Arado: Hi Wol, Aggers, Maude
    Agatha Macbeth: Nice moves there Zen
    Zen Arado: at least leg isn't sticking out
    Wol Euler: you must go through a keyboard a week like that
    Wol Euler: yeah, true :)
    Zen Arado: heh
    Agatha Macbeth: How's the music business?
    Zen Arado: interesting prog onn BBC 4 about film music
    Wol Euler: mm?
    Agatha Macbeth: John Williams?
    Zen Arado: about how film scores started
    Zen Arado: earlier than that
    Agatha Macbeth: When did they start exactly?
    Zen Arado: Europeans
    Wol Euler nods.
    Zen Arado: evolved from silent films
    Zen Arado: King KOng one of the earliest
    Zen Arado: classical musicians
    Agatha Macbeth: Didn't they used to have somebody playing the piano during the era?
    Wol Euler nods.
    Zen Arado: they also had little orchestras
    Agatha Macbeth: Sitting at the front
    --BELL--1345
    Zen Arado: before they integrated the music
    DR42 Resident: Or an Organ.
    Zen Arado: yes
    Zen Arado: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b03b51db
    Agatha Macbeth: Bit like Ted Heath and his organ
    Agatha Macbeth: Or was it Reg Dixon?
    Agatha Macbeth: Oh I do like to be beside the seaside
    Zen Arado: bet they talk about psycho
    Agatha Macbeth: Who?
    Zen Arado: the shower scene
    Zen Arado: they are atm
    Agatha Macbeth: Mm, that was a while ago
    Zen Arado: the music made the film
    Agatha Macbeth: She certainly got the point
    Wol Euler has never seen it.
    Zen Arado: he was in trouble at the time too
    Zen Arado: the shower scene music was a masterpiece
    Zen Arado: reallt built up the tension
    Zen Arado: worth watching just for that
    Zen Arado: probably on Youtube
    Agatha Macbeth: Dear old Norman
    Zen Arado: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atjhOhH-V3E
    Zen Arado: but there was a long buildup of tension beforte that
    Agatha Macbeth: The Birds was his best
    Zen Arado: well most reckon it was Psycho
    Agatha Macbeth: Pas pour moi
    Zen Arado: he never equalled it
    Zen Arado: amazing how important a part music played in films
    Zen Arado: and still does
    Zen Arado: yet we hardly notice it
    Agatha Macbeth: Music is important period
    Wol Euler nods.
    Agatha Macbeth: In all spheres
    Zen Arado: he showed the opening sequence of the Ipcress File
    Wol Euler: okay, quick poll to prove that point: What are we listening to right now?
    Agatha Macbeth: My name is Harry Palmer
    Zen Arado: nothing
    Agatha Macbeth: No many people know that
    Wol Euler: I'll start. John Tavener "The Veil of the Temple§"
    Agatha Macbeth: I like him
    Zen Arado: right now?
    Wol Euler: mmhmm
    Wol Euler: well, you are listening to a radio docu full of musics ;) hard to say
    Zen Arado: I don't usually have background music
    Zen Arado: on computer
    DR42 Resident: Nothing, I don't have my headset on.
    Zen Arado: other times yes
    Zen Arado: mealtimes etc
    Wol Euler: fascinating :) I do at the computer but not at meals :)
    Zen Arado: listened to a lot of 50's music because it is in my course this week
    Agatha Macbeth: Course it is
    Zen Arado: I made a medley of Everly Bros
    Wol Euler: nice
    Zen Arado: foegot how good they were
    Wol Euler: could you play us that tomorrow?
    Agatha Macbeth: Ebony eyes
    Zen Arado: great acoustic guitar
    Zen Arado: and lovely harmonies
    Wol Euler nods.
    Zen Arado: it is only about 25 mins
    Zen Arado: of songs I like particularly
    Agatha Macbeth: That's long enough
    Zen Arado: it is on Legitmix
    Wol Euler: sure, I'd like to hear it
    Agatha Macbeth: Leg-what?
    Zen Arado: sorry 15 mis
    Zen Arado: I meant
    Agatha Macbeth: Lego mix?
    Zen Arado: http://lgt.mx/+2LA
    Zen Arado: free download
    Agatha Macbeth: Hmm
    Agatha Macbeth: Interesting
    Zen Arado: hope it is legit
    Zen Arado: but they say it is
    DR42 Resident: Unlike many groups with "Brothers" in their name, the Everly Brothers were actually brothers.
    Zen Arado: yes
    --BELL--1400
    Agatha Macbeth: You put this on?
    Zen Arado: yes
    Agatha Macbeth: Wow
    Zen Arado: recorded it
    Zen Arado: took ages
    Zen Arado: to get right
    Agatha Macbeth: Sun will be impressed
    Zen Arado: young people nowadays never heard of the Everlys
    Agatha Macbeth: A lot of em never heard of the Beatles
    DR42 Resident: More their loss.
    DR42 Resident: Beach Boys
    Zen Arado: think so?
    Agatha Macbeth: Seems that way
    Zen Arado: must have surely
    Zen Arado: they are still working
    Agatha Macbeth: Maybe no guns or drugs to get them interested
    Zen Arado: the simplicity of Everlys attracts me
    Agatha Macbeth: Yeh
    Zen Arado: so complicated modern music
    DR42 Resident: Doobie Brothers, Isley Brothers, Mills Brothers, Righteous Brothers
    Zen Arado: yeh
    Agatha Macbeth: You don't even need to be a musician to make music now
    Zen Arado: well up to a point I guess
    Zen Arado: but it's easier to produce something
    Zen Arado: without playing an instrument
    Agatha Macbeth: I bet even I could do it ^.^
    DR42 Resident: Yea, today some of what passes for music is basically noise.
    Zen Arado: you can do anything if you persevere
    Zen Arado: :)
    Agatha Macbeth: The art of noise
    Zen Arado: great course
    Zen Arado: history of rock
    Zen Arado: learning so much
    Agatha Macbeth smiles
    Zen Arado: of course it is US centric
    Wol Euler smiles.
    Agatha Macbeth: Zenny the course man
    Zen Arado: UK was a bit different
    DR42 Resident: People who love their synthesizers Don't know who Wendy Carlos or Isao Tomita are.
    Zen Arado: but Radio played such a big part
    Agatha Macbeth: Sun's going on and off a lot
    Zen Arado: great to be actually there when Rock and Roll started
    Agatha Macbeth: Maybe she's got connection problems too
    Zen Arado: might have
    Agatha Macbeth: When did it start? 55?
    Zen Arado: great guess
    Zen Arado: that's the date they give in the course
    Agatha Macbeth: Same year as James Dean died coincidentally
    Zen Arado: black artists got ripped off
    DR42 Resident: Music makes the movie, what about A Clockwork Orange?
    Agatha Macbeth: Unsurprising
    Zen Arado: white artists recordesd their songs and they got nothing
    Agatha Macbeth: Well they didn't even have rights in those days
    Zen Arado: or didn't know they had any
    Zen Arado: Chuck Berry got turned away from venues he was supposed to play at
    Agatha Macbeth nods
    Agatha Macbeth: Ridiculous
    Zen Arado: we forget the segregation in those days
    Agatha Macbeth: Yep
    Zen Arado: even in music
    Wol Euler nods.
    Agatha Macbeth: Sinatra often had to throw his weight around to get Sammy davis let in
    DR42 Resident: There are still places that wont book someone who is black, or gay.
    Zen Arado: white kids started listening to black R& B stations
    Agatha Macbeth: >.<
    Zen Arado: really?
    DR42 Resident: Yea, really. Go down south, segregation is alive and well.
    Zen Arado: Alan Freed organized a concert for R&B and was astonished all these white kids turned up
    Agatha Macbeth: Who was he? A DJ?
    Zen Arado: yes
    Agatha Macbeth: Aha
    Zen Arado: he was white too
    Agatha Macbeth: I know the name
    --BELL--1415
    Zen Arado: thinking of doing psychedelic 60's tomorrow night
    Agatha Macbeth: Oh do!
    Zen Arado: but not too way out psychedelia
    Agatha Macbeth: White Rabbit?
    Zen Arado: some of it is a bit weird
    DR42 Resident: The Zombies? The Byrds,
    Agatha Macbeth: Weird is good
    Zen Arado: nah they are ok
    Zen Arado: Jefferson airplane
    Agatha Macbeth: Yah
    Agatha Macbeth: Feed your head
    Zen Arado: was listening to Grateful dead Maude
    DR42 Resident: Go ask alice when she is 9 feet tall.
    Zen Arado: but it is very country to me
    Agatha Macbeth: Or 10
    Zen Arado: can't seem to get into them
    DR42 Resident: The dead can fill in almost anywhere. They had a sting doing gospel.
    Agatha Macbeth: At least it's not Dolly Parton
    Zen Arado: I like lots of country too
    DR42 Resident: stint*
    Zen Arado: live Old crow medicine man
    Zen Arado: CC rider I love
    DR42 Resident: Jimi
    Agatha Macbeth: Blind Lemon Pie?
    Zen Arado: good fun researching music
    Agatha Macbeth: Better still listening to it
    Zen Arado: finding songs you haven't heard in years
    Agatha Macbeth: Yes
    Zen Arado: or didn't know the name of
    DR42 Resident: yaerbirds.
    DR42 Resident: yardbirds
    Zen Arado: yes added a couple of them today
    DR42 Resident: Pink Floyd
    Zen Arado: PF songs are very slow often though
    Zen Arado: and long
    Agatha Macbeth: Yes definitely long
    DR42 Resident: Holy Modal Rounders
    Agatha Macbeth: Sounds like a baseball team
    Zen Arado: :)
    DR42 Resident: Quicksilver Messenger Service, Big Brother and the Holding Company.
    Agatha Macbeth: Ah now the second one I know
    Zen Arado: yeh noticed them today on a poster
    Agatha Macbeth: Weren't they at Woodstock?
    Zen Arado: with grateful dead
    Wol Euler: and goodnight everyone, I have to move on
    DR42 Resident: Frank Zappa
    Wol Euler: take care, be happy and full of music
    Zen Arado: yeh time to go for me too
    Agatha Macbeth: Yeh me too
    DR42 Resident: bye, dinner time for me as well
    Agatha Macbeth: Schlaf gut ♥
    Wol Euler: dir auch ♥
    Zen Arado: byee all
    Wol Euler: goodnight!

                            
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