2013.09.12 13:00 - Many Guardians, no one on Call

The Guardian for this meeting was No Self. The comments are by No Self.

Posted by Stevenaia from the logs

Participants included:

Agatha Macbeth, Wol Euler, Marjorie Chardin, Zen Arado:

 --BELL--

Agatha Macbeth: G'day M
Agatha Macbeth pokes Marj in the ear to see if she's awake
Wol Euler: 's current display-name is "O rue well".
Agatha Macbeth: Wollie ♥
Wol Euler: evening all
DR42 Resident: Not here
Agatha Macbeth: How goes it
Wol Euler: well it goes
Agatha Macbeth: Well :p
Wol Euler smiles.
Agatha Macbeth: Wonder if there's a Rue Well in France?
Wol Euler: heheheheh
Wol Euler: if not, there should be
DR42 Resident: I'll make it to the end of today. 0^0
Agatha Macbeth: You and yer anagrams
Wol Euler: angram singular, this is the only one
Agatha Macbeth: Ah
Agatha Macbeth: Don't do crosswords then?
Wol Euler: nah
Wol Euler: not clever enough for the tricky ones, and too clever for the not-tricky ones
Agatha Macbeth: Between two stools then
Wol Euler nods.
Agatha Macbeth: Hello Zon
DR42 Resident: There is a Rue Well company out in Ohio the services wells.
Wol Euler: hello zon
DR42 Resident: Zon,
Zon Kwan: heya
Wol Euler: ha!
Agatha Macbeth: Wow
Agatha Macbeth: Wonder if Bruce knows it?
Agatha Macbeth: Rue well and be happy later
Wol Euler chuckles.
Wol Euler: nice.
Wol Euler: brb
Agatha Macbeth: Don't go playing WoW or anything
Agatha Macbeth looks for Zon but he is gone
Agatha Macbeth: What a name...Lazarus Doghouse
DR42 Resident: Zon has been having serious connection problems.
Agatha Macbeth: Oh
Agatha Macbeth: Funny I know several people who have said that recently
DR42 Resident: That Zon is having connection issues?

--BELL--

Agatha Macbeth: No that they have
Agatha Macbeth: Maybe it's an epidemic
Agatha Macbeth: What's Wol up to?
Wol Euler: dealing with one of those sudden-but-totally-urgent bodily needs things
Agatha Macbeth: Oh on the karzie?
Wol Euler sighs.
Wol Euler: such a poetic mind you have.
Wol Euler: yes, I was
Agatha Macbeth: Well, yeah
Agatha Macbeth: You could have had one for me
Wol Euler nods.
Agatha Macbeth: Crap by proxy
Wol Euler: I can imagine that being a good business actually
Agatha Macbeth: Absolutely
Wol Euler: think of the saving in time and labour
Agatha Macbeth: Right
Agatha Macbeth: Some people read the paper while sitting on the toilet
Wol Euler: if it could be extended to people sleeping for you too, that would be amazing
Agatha Macbeth: Mmm
Wol Euler: I'd be one of the sleepers. I'd get paid to do people's sleeping for them
Wol Euler: win/win
Agatha Macbeth: The sleeper awakes
Wol Euler: and goes right back to sleep, after turning on a meter
Agatha Macbeth: Rip van Euler
Wol Euler smiles.
Agatha Macbeth: What is this thing with you and sleep then?
Wol Euler: I love it. Sleep is one of my favourite activities.
Wol Euler: I look forward each morning to going to sleep again that night
Agatha Macbeth: Hm
Agatha Macbeth: Have you always been that way?
Wol Euler: I think so
Agatha Macbeth: Good lord
Wol Euler smiles.
Agatha Macbeth: Is it the dreaming part that attracts you?
Wol Euler: only in part
Wol Euler: most nights as I turn the lamp off and snuggle down, I think something like "hooray, sleep again"
Wol Euler: feeling comforted and snuggled and very safe
Agatha Macbeth: Oh I like that
Wol Euler is easily pleased.
Agatha Macbeth: Mmm
DR42 Resident: I wish I could do that. My sleep is terrible.
Agatha Macbeth: Awww
Wol Euler: sorry to hear that, Marj. What goes wrong for you?
Agatha Macbeth: Mind too active maybe?
DR42 Resident: Can't fall asleep, then wake up almost exactly 4 hours later.
Wol Euler: eww
Agatha Macbeth: perhaps you need to exhaust yourself first
DR42 Resident: I am usually tired because I got 4 hours of sleep the night before.
Wol Euler nods.
DR42 Resident: The only reason I fall asleep is that I take Ambien, and it wears off in about 4 hours.
Agatha Macbeth: Is that a drug?
DR42 Resident: Yes
Agatha Macbeth nods
Agatha Macbeth: Sounds like Wol needs the exact opposite :p
Wol Euler smiles.
Wol Euler: define "need"
DR42 Resident: Add meds.

--BELL--

DR42 Resident: as in ADHD
Agatha Macbeth: Didn't Corvi have that or something like it?
Wol Euler: I do remember that she had sleep difficulties too, but not the details
Agatha Macbeth: Hm
Agatha Macbeth: Have you heard from her BTW?
Wol Euler: not in a very long time, no
Agatha Macbeth: :(
Agatha Macbeth: Hope she's alright
Wol Euler: I'll send her an e-mail tonight
Agatha Macbeth smiles
Agatha Macbeth wonders if Wol has gone to bed
Wol Euler: nope
Agatha Macbeth: Hehe
Wol Euler: just gone quiet
Agatha Macbeth: Whatever happened to the old verbalicious Wollie I wonder
Wol Euler: I guess she isn't being provoked to flights of fancy by her conversational partners
Agatha Macbeth: Hm
Agatha Macbeth: You need Sam and Mary back
Wol Euler: god forbid
Wol Euler smiles.
Agatha Macbeth: HA
Agatha Macbeth: What was her second name now?
Wol Euler: O'something?
Zen Arado: 's current display-name is "Zen".
Agatha Macbeth: No that was Samuel
Wol Euler: hello zen
Wol Euler: ah right
Agatha Macbeth: I mean Mary
Agatha Macbeth: Yo Zenny
Wol Euler: I know, I got it wrong
Wol Euler: what a strange typing animation
Zen Arado: Hi Wol, Aggers, Maude
Agatha Macbeth: Nice moves there Zen
Zen Arado: at least leg isn'y sticking out
Wol Euler: you must go through a keyboard a week like that
Wol Euler: yeah, true :)
Zen Arado: heh
Agatha Macbeth: How's the music business?
Zen Arado: interesting prog onn BBC 4 about film music
Wol Euler: mm?
Agatha Macbeth: John Williams?
Zen Arado: about how film scores started
Zen Arado: earlier than that
Agatha Macbeth: When did they start exactly?
Zen Arado: Europeans
Wol Euler nods.
Zen Arado: evolved from silent films
Zen Arado: King KOng one of the earliest
Zen Arado: classical musicians
Agatha Macbeth: Didn't they used to have somebody playing the piano during the era?
Wol Euler nods.
Zen Arado: they also had little orchestras
Agatha Macbeth: Sitting at the front

--BELL--

Zen Arado: before they integrated the music
DR42 Resident: Or an Organ.
Zen Arado: yes
Zen Arado: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b03b51db
Agatha Macbeth: Bit like Ted Heath and his organ
Agatha Macbeth: Or was it Reg Dixon?
Agatha Macbeth: Oh I do like to be beside the seaside
Zen Arado: bet they talk about psycho
Agatha Macbeth: Who?
Zen Arado: the shower scene
Zen Arado: they are atm
Agatha Macbeth: Mm, that was a while ago
Zen Arado: the music made the film
Agatha Macbeth: She certainly got the point
Wol Euler has never seen it.
Zen Arado: he was in trouble at the time too
Zen Arado: the shower scene music was a masterpiece
Zen Arado: reallt built up the tension
Zen Arado: worth watching just for that
Zen Arado: probably on Youtube
Agatha Macbeth: Dear old Norman
Zen Arado: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atjhOhH-V3E
Zen Arado: but there was a long buildup of tension beforte that
Agatha Macbeth: The Birds was his best
Zen Arado: well most reckon it was Psycho
Agatha Macbeth: Pas pour moi
Zen Arado: he never equalled it
Zen Arado: amazing how important a part music played in films
Zen Arado: and still does
Zen Arado: yet we hardly notice it
Agatha Macbeth: Music is important period
Wol Euler nods.
Agatha Macbeth: In all spheres
Zen Arado: he showed the opening sequence of the Ipcress File
Wol Euler: okay, quick poll to prove that point: What are we listening to right now?
Agatha Macbeth: My name is Harry Palmer
Zen Arado: nothing
Agatha Macbeth: No many people know that
Wol Euler: I'll start. John Tavener "The Veil of the Temple§"
Agatha Macbeth: I like him
Zen Arado: right now?
Wol Euler: mmhmm
Wol Euler: well, you are listening to a radio docu full of musics ;) hard to say
Zen Arado: I don't usually have background music
Zen Arado: on computer
DR42 Resident: Nothing, I don't have my headset on.
Zen Arado: other times yes
Zen Arado: mealtimes etc
Wol Euler: fascinating :) I do at the computer but not at meals :)
Zen Arado: listened to a lot of 50's music because it is in my course this week
Agatha Macbeth: Course it is
Zen Arado: I made a medley of Everly Bros
Wol Euler: nice
Zen Arado: foegot how good they were
Wol Euler: could you play ust hat tomorrow?
Agatha Macbeth: Ebony eyes
Zen Arado: great acoustic guitar
Zen Arado: and lovely harmonies
Wol Euler nods.
Zen Arado: it is only about 25 mins
Zen Arado: of songs I like particularly
Agatha Macbeth: That's long enough
Zen Arado: it is on Legitmix
Wol Euler: sure, I'd like to hear it
Agatha Macbeth: Leg-what?
Zen Arado: sorry 15 mis
Zen Arado: I meant
Agatha Macbeth: Lego mix?
Zen Arado: http://lgt.mx/+2LA
Zen Arado: free download
Agatha Macbeth: Hmm
Agatha Macbeth: Interesting
Zen Arado: hope it is legit
Zen Arado: but they say it is
DR42 Resident: Unlike many groups with "Brothers" in their name, the Everly Brothers were actually brothers.
Zen Arado: yes

--BELL--

Agatha Macbeth: You put this on?
Zen Arado: yes
Agatha Macbeth: Wow
Zen Arado: recorded it
Zen Arado: took ages
Zen Arado: to get right
Agatha Macbeth: Sun will be impressed
Zen Arado: young people nowadays never heard of the Everlys
Agatha Macbeth: A lot of em never heard of the Beatles
DR42 Resident: More their loss.
DR42 Resident: Beach Boys
Zen Arado: think so?
Agatha Macbeth: Seems that way
Zen Arado: must have surely
Zen Arado: they are still working
Agatha Macbeth: Maybe no guns or drugs to get them interested
Zen Arado: the simplicity of Everlys attracts me
Agatha Macbeth: Yeh
Zen Arado: so complicated modern music
DR42 Resident: Doobie Brothers, Isley Brothers, Mills Brothers, Righteous Brothers
Zen Arado: yeh
Agatha Macbeth: You don't even need to be a musician to make music now
Zen Arado: well up to a point I guess
Zen Arado: but it's easier to produce something
Zen Arado: without playing an instrument
Agatha Macbeth: I bet even I could do it ^.^
DR42 Resident: Yea, today some of what passes for music is basically noise.
Zen Arado: you can do anything if you persevere
Zen Arado: :)
Agatha Macbeth: The art of noise
Zen Arado: great course
Zen Arado: history of rock
Zen Arado: learning so much
Agatha Macbeth smiles
Zen Arado: of course it is US centric
Wol Euler smiles.
Agatha Macbeth: Zenny the course man
Zen Arado: UK was a bit different
DR42 Resident: People who love their synthesizers Don't know who Wendy Carlos or Isao Tomita are.
Zen Arado: but Radio played such a big part
Agatha Macbeth: Sun's going on and off a lot
Zen Arado: great to be actually there when Rock and Roll started
Agatha Macbeth: Maybe she's got connection problems too
Zen Arado: might have
Agatha Macbeth: When did it start? 55?
Zen Arado: great guess
Zen Arado: that's the date they give in the course
Agatha Macbeth: Same year as James Dean died coincidentally
Zen Arado: black artists got ripped off
DR42 Resident: Music makes the movie, what about A Clockwork Orange?
Agatha Macbeth: Unsurprising
Zen Arado: white artists recordesd their songs and they got nothing
Agatha Macbeth: Well they didn't even have rights in those days
Zen Arado: or didn't know they had any
Zen Arado: Chuck Berry got turned away from venues he was supposed to play at
Agatha Macbeth nods
Agatha Macbeth: Ridiculous
Zen Arado: we forget the segregation in those days
Agatha Macbeth: Yep
Zen Arado: even in music
Wol Euler nods.
Agatha Macbeth: Sinatra often had to throw his weight around to get Sammy davis let in
DR42 Resident: There are still places that wont book someone who is black, or gay.
Zen Arado: white kids started listening to black R& B stations
Agatha Macbeth: >.<
Zen Arado: really?
DR42 Resident: Yea, really. Go down south, segregation is alive and well.
Zen Arado: Alan Freed organized a concert for R&B and was astonished all these white kids turned up
Agatha Macbeth: Who was he? A DJ?
Zen Arado: yes
Agatha Macbeth: Aha
Zen Arado: he was white too
Agatha Macbeth: I know the name

--BELL--

Zen Arado: thinking of doing psychedelic 60's tomorrow night
Agatha Macbeth: Oh do!
Zen Arado: but not too way out psychedelia
Agatha Macbeth: White Rabbit?
Zen Arado: some of it is a bit weird
DR42 Resident: The Zombies? The Byrds,
Agatha Macbeth: Weird is good
Zen Arado: nah they are ok
Zen Arado: Jefferson airplane
Agatha Macbeth: Yah
Agatha Macbeth: Feed your head
Zen Arado: was listening to Grateful dead Maude
DR42 Resident: Go ask alice when she is 9 feet tall.
Zen Arado: but it is very country to me
Agatha Macbeth: Or 10
Zen Arado: can't seem to get into them
DR42 Resident: The dead can fill in almost anywhere. They had a sting doing gospel.
Agatha Macbeth: At least it's not Dolly Parton
Zen Arado: I like lots of country too
DR42 Resident: stint*
Zen Arado: live Old crow medicine man
Zen Arado: CC rider I love
DR42 Resident: Jimi
Agatha Macbeth: Blind Lemon Pie?
Zen Arado: good fun researching music
Agatha Macbeth: Better still listening to it
Zen Arado: finding songs you haven't heard in years
Agatha Macbeth: Yes
Zen Arado: or didn't know the name of
DR42 Resident: yaerbirds.
DR42 Resident: yardbirds
Zen Arado: yes added a couple of them today
DR42 Resident: Pink Floyd
Zen Arado: PF songs are very slow often though
Zen Arado: and long
Agatha Macbeth: Yes definitely long
DR42 Resident: Holy Modal Rounders
Agatha Macbeth: Sounds like a baseball team
Zen Arado: :)
DR42 Resident: Quicksilver Messenger Service, Big Brother and the Holding Company.
Agatha Macbeth: Ah now the second one I know
Zen Arado: yeh noticed them today on a poster
Agatha Macbeth: Weren't they at Woodstock?
Zen Arado: with grateful dead
Wol Euler: hello martine
martine Lagerlof: hi
Wol Euler: and goodnight everyone, I have to move on
Zen Arado: Hi Martine
DR42 Resident: Frank Zappa
Wol Euler: take care, be happy and full of music
Zen Arado: yeh time to go for me too
Agatha Macbeth: Yeh me too
DR42 Resident: bye, dinner time for me as well
Wol Euler: sorry martine :) you picked a bad time to arrive :)
Agatha Macbeth: Schlaf gut ♥
Wol Euler: dir auch ♥
Zen Arado: byee all
martine Lagerlof: yes i see
Wol Euler: goodnight!