2014.01.26 01:00 - Fake Sun and Real Service

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[01:00] Wol Euler: buongiorno, qt
[01:01] Qt Core: Hi Wol
[01:02] Qt Core: There is so much sun outside i almost feel guilty for not being there, almost
[01:02] Wol Euler grins.
[01:03] Wol Euler: fortunately it is grey and windy here so I have no such dilemma

[01:03] Qt Core: probably it is a fake sun, in reality being colder than greyer past days
[01:04] Wol Euler: heheheheh
[01:04] Wol Euler: oh, what was the name of that film with Jim Carrey, the guy who lived his entire life inside a 24-hour TV show, and didn't know it?
[01:04] Qt Core: The Truman show ?
[01:05] Wol Euler: yes! thank you :)
[01:05] Wol Euler: "fake sun" made me think of that
[01:06] Qt Core: even if i never watched it start to finish i think about it whenever a stranger is too nice to me
[01:06] Wol Euler grins.
[01:07] Qt Core: thanks to out paranoid utilitaristic civilization
[01:07] Wol Euler nods sadly
[01:08] Wol Euler: or maybe it#s just you :)
[01:09] Qt Core: silly me, forgot society is perfect ;-)
[01:09] Wol Euler chuckles.

[01:10] Wol Euler: if you look at what much of hte media pays attention to, you would think that
[01:10] Wol Euler: "if THOSE are the things that interest and worry you, then all the really big problems must have been solved"
[01:11] Qt Core: after all which is my main worry today ? It probably should be how Holland's ex react to being dumed, right ?
[01:12] Qt Core: +e
[01:12] Wol Euler nods.

[01:13] Qt Core: (to be honest i'm more interested/amused by the protocol implication for the poor guys managing that)
[01:13] Wol Euler: that would be a much more interesting story! agreed
[01:14] Qt Core: around here there were many jokes about having demonstrated the ties between Italy and France, between Mr. B. and Mr. H ;-)
[01:16] Wol Euler nods.

[01:18] Qt Core: yesterday i've read something hilarious: raughly translated it sound like this
[01:19] Qt Core: Pope Francis would embrace technology, he will not baptize anymore, at most he would save as.
[01:19] Wol Euler: heheheheheheh
[01:19] Wol Euler: nice one
[01:19] Qt Core: in italian it is better as "save as" become "salva con nome" (save with name)
[01:20] Wol Euler nods.
[01:20] Qt Core: he really did say that technology is a good thing in a recent speach
[01:24] Wol Euler: sounds inocuous to me, but I guess there were poeple who objected?
[01:26] Qt Core: haven't heard reactions, but there are probably many people scared by this Pope, i just hope he don't let conservative regroup and that he can last enough to keep the storm going :-)
[01:26] Wol Euler nods.
[01:27] Wol Euler: I agree that so far he seems an excellent Pope
[01:28] Wol Euler: and I hope he will continue long in this vein
[01:29] Qt Core: an example: he nominated a few new high positions in the vatican administration, positions that usually make them cardinals too, he just announced the new cardinals and many of those aren;t going to be cardinals, he told that those are position of service, not honour
[01:32] Qt Core: career is made "on the field"
[01:34] Wol Euler nods.
[01:35] Wol Euler: I've been thinking about my reaction to this, and wondering why I find the notion of a "career" in the Church to be ... forgotten the word ... morally wrong, let's say
[01:36] Wol Euler: I know that there has to be a level above the parish priest, who looks around to see where new parishes are needed or old ones are declining
[01:36] Wol Euler: and that is fine
[01:36] Wol Euler: and presumably there has to be a level above *that* to look at the entire country, and that is fine too
[01:36] Qt Core: there is no doubt that there is administration and financing too

[01:36] Wol Euler: somehow when it gets up to Cardinals, whose function as far as I can see is to achieve worldly power and fame, then I somehow become skeptical
[01:38] Qt Core: somehow it would be nice if cardinals name would be secret and the election be managed in a way that they won't be known
[01:38] Wol Euler nods.
[01:39] Wol Euler: to cut off that aspect of fame, I agree

[01:39] Wol Euler: I guess you read about the German "bishop of bling" and his palace?
[01:39] Wol Euler: the reaction to that here was *entirely* positive
[01:40] Wol Euler: (to firing him and ... damn, I'm forgetting all my words today ... siezing the property)
[01:40] Qt Core: i "saw" the pope phisically slapping him
[01:41] Wol Euler grins.
[01:42] Wol Euler: he was outrageous, and that he was allowed to get that far is a failure in management (let's say :)
[01:42] Qt Core: like those movie scenes where generals strips soldiers of their insigna
[01:42] Wol Euler: exactly
[01:43] Qt Core: ... and no recess for all the week
[01:43] Wol Euler: heheheh
[01:44] Qt Core: wqe have a new "facepalm" church moment here, a nun gave birth to a child and she (say) she didn't knew about being pregnant
[01:46] Qt Core: http://newsfeed.time.com/2014/01/19/...-was-pregnant/
[01:48] Wol Euler: I can accept that she might have been so dumb and/or so unobservant as to not know that she was pregnant, one reads often of people being surprised to find that out
[01:49] Wol Euler: but I hope she isn't going to claim it was a virgin birth :)
[01:50] Qt Core: in that case she choose the wrong name ;-)
[01:51] Wol Euler grins.
[01:52] Qt Core: that kid is going to have a weird childhood if not given up for adoption, sent away somehow
[01:52] Qt Core: too many aunts!
[01:52] Wol Euler: yeah
[01:53] Qt Core: on a lighter note (hoping no finnish friends of pab get offended): http://www.wimp.com/finnishhockey/
[01:56] Wol Euler laughs.
[01:56] Wol Euler: very funny
[01:56] Qt Core: love the last evil laugh
[01:57] Wol Euler: yep
[01:58] Wol Euler smiles.
[01:58] Wol Euler: my favourite was tackling the zamboni :)
[02:00] Qt Core: it is nice when special effect seems "normal"
[02:02] Qt Core: time to start a long day, still quiet but who knows ?
[02:02] Wol Euler nods.
[02:02] Wol Euler: just like life
[02:02] Wol Euler: I hope it goes well, dear QT
[02:03] Qt Core: ty, bye Wol, have fun
[02:03] Wol Euler: you too