2014.01.26 07:00 - 10,000 Steps

The Guardian for this meeting was Bleu Oleander. The comments are by Bleu Oleander.

Bleu Oleander: 's current display-name is "Bleu".
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Eliza Madrigal: 's current display-name is "Eliza".

(photo by Eliza)

Bleu Oleander: hiya Eliza :)
Bleu Oleander: very mermaidy this morning :)
Eliza Madrigal: Mornin' Bleu :) What interesting hair..um..tentacles..um?
Bleu Oleander: left over from a PaB BD party I think
Eliza Madrigal: wow.... looks very different here in the plain ol pabilion.... lovely
Eliza Madrigal: ah!
Eliza Madrigal: sending pab love into the air
Bleu Oleander: hehe yes
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Bleu Oleander: what's been happening here this week?
Eliza Madrigal: not sure really... I was late to my session on Monday and then have had a very busy week...so not here as much as I'd like
Bleu Oleander: me either :)
Eliza Madrigal: I think you would enjoy meeting the people I met on Monday... especially the woman who created the sim... she talked a lot about being in the zone and flow, during creativity :) was great
Bleu Oleander: which sim?
Eliza Madrigal: It is called Creations for Parkinson's
Eliza Madrigal: or Creations Park
Bleu Oleander: and she spoke?
Eliza Madrigal: you may have seen a video about it
Bleu Oleander: no I haven't
Bleu Oleander: do you have a link?
Eliza Madrigal: Oh... let me show you
Eliza Madrigal: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyiiW...ature=youtu.be
Bleu Oleander: "mermaids" :)
Eliza Madrigal smiles
Bleu Oleander: social connects ... saw the movie "her" again last night :)
Eliza Madrigal: Oh, great... I'd like to see it again actually
Eliza Madrigal: but haven't yet
Bleu Oleander: the social connection theme was very prominent the second time
Eliza Madrigal: that was at the forefront of my mind the first time for me, because I was so struck by the aesthetic... being so similar to Lost in Translation I felt...
Eliza Madrigal: so I had a lot of associations to that film, which I loe
Eliza Madrigal: love*
Bleu Oleander: I didn't see that film
Eliza Madrigal: ohhh
Eliza Madrigal: :) Did you ever see Inception?
Bleu Oleander: behind in my movies :)
Bleu Oleander: not that one either lol
Eliza Madrigal: hehehe
Eliza Madrigal: maybe we should have a weekly film chat in PaB now
Bleu Oleander: no time for movies . . . yes would be nice
Eliza Madrigal: so what were you up to this week?
Bleu Oleander: got a pedometer ... trying to reach 10,000 steps lol
Eliza Madrigal: oh, wow, great
Bleu Oleander: really hard to do and be on the computer at the same time
Eliza Madrigal laughs
Eliza Madrigal: well they do have the treadmill desks now...
Bleu Oleander: dramatic to see how little we move these days
Eliza Madrigal: yes I agree
Bleu Oleander: yes, but really enjoying being out in the world
Bleu Oleander: the sky is amazing
Bleu Oleander: the birds . . just hearing them is amazing
Eliza Madrigal: one thing about the tech in Her, is that it has gone the next step...
Bleu Oleander: we forget
Eliza Madrigal: more blended with movement
Bleu Oleander: yes I think thats important
Eliza Madrigal: My son and I are going to a dog traning class tomorrow...
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Bleu Oleander: ah nice
Eliza Madrigal: a little dog may help to make sure we get out and about every day in a more recreational way
Bleu Oleander: definitely!!
Bleu Oleander: two big dogs even more so lol
Bleu Oleander: we have a really interesting salon tonight
Eliza Madrigal: looking at schnauzers and dachshund - have to be small for apartment :)
Bleu Oleander: had schnauzers all through childhood :)
Eliza Madrigal: aw :) nice
Bleu Oleander: and really love long haired dachshunds
Eliza Madrigal: yes me too... but these are the dogs my son is drawn to most
Bleu Oleander: my aunt just got one . . OMG so cute
Eliza Madrigal grins
Eliza Madrigal: am excited
Bleu Oleander: indeed!
Eliza Madrigal: so what is the salon?
Bleu Oleander: a nobel winning physicist on "opening the doors of perception"
Eliza Madrigal: wow
Bleu Oleander: we saw "her" with him last evening
Eliza Madrigal begins checking ticket prices on expeia...
Eliza Madrigal: lol
Bleu Oleander: haha
Bleu Oleander: we helped him set up yesterday
Eliza Madrigal: set up?
Bleu Oleander: its going to be at Taliesin
Bleu Oleander: hes setting up some experiments
Eliza Madrigal: wonderful... what is his take?
Bleu Oleander: well . . . he says he's got a fascinating take
Bleu Oleander: didn't tell us yet
Eliza Madrigal laughs
Bleu Oleander: but has something to do with the Mantis Shrimp
Eliza Madrigal: OMG we were talking about this in the car yesterday
Bleu Oleander: hence the radio lab post
Eliza Madrigal: YES
Eliza Madrigal: my son and daughter were telling me the shrimp has SO MANY cones
Bleu Oleander: 16
Bleu Oleander: vs our 3 or 4
Eliza Madrigal: yes!
Bleu Oleander: 4 are UV
Eliza Madrigal: crazy neat... nature
Bleu Oleander: indeed
Eliza Madrigal: really enjoyed listening to the Radio Lab show
Bleu Oleander: yes me too
Eliza Madrigal: it has a way, even when one has heard some of the info before, of weaving it together in a novel way
Bleu Oleander: his book is one of my all time favs
Bleu Oleander: "the lightness of being"
Eliza Madrigal: ah... I have that...but haven't cracked it :)
Bleu Oleander: hehe
Bleu Oleander: i've read it 4 times
Bleu Oleander: he comes to phoenix every year and I re-read before he gets here :)
Eliza Madrigal: that's incentive :)
Bleu Oleander: we have some of the best conversations!!
Eliza Madrigal: It seems so! I didn't realize Phoenix was such a center before I met you
Bleu Oleander: yes, ASU is fast becoming an important university
Eliza Madrigal: I'm sure something is going on in Miami... but not sure where, hehhe
Bleu Oleander: hehe
Bleu Oleander: we have about 100 people coming tonight to hear him
Eliza Madrigal: once our arts and science area opens (putting many museums in one place) I think it will create a dynamic center of learning and presentations
Eliza Madrigal: Do you feed them all??
Bleu Oleander: haha just with mental food
Eliza Madrigal: >whew<
Bleu Oleander: Taliesin West is a lovely place
Bleu Oleander: has a beautiful theatre
Eliza Madrigal: am excited for you
Bleu Oleander: yes :)
Eliza Madrigal: RLab yesterday, was about negotiations and making deals (with ourselves mostly)
Eliza Madrigal: Oliver Sacks was on...and shared something pretty shocking
Bleu Oleander listens
Eliza Madrigal: he said that at some point he had put off writing (I think his first book) for years, and became so frustrated with himself that he made a secret bet..
Eliza Madrigal: which is that he would kill himself if he didn't write it in 10 days
Eliza Madrigal: @@
Bleu Oleander: whoa
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Bleu Oleander: Camus's question
Eliza Madrigal: no kidding... of course he didn't recommend people doing this... but it is an illustration of the point he'd gotten to
Bleu Oleander: wow
Bleu Oleander: I REALY loved his book, hallucinations
Eliza Madrigal: find him fascinating... not many will talk about their experiences in such an open way
Bleu Oleander: probably need to re-read that one too
Bleu Oleander: am near the end of the Yale course on "death"
Eliza Madrigal: the negotiation worked, and he wrote the book in 9 days. He said he is not sure if he meant it really....
Eliza Madrigal: but it was facing himself
Bleu Oleander: and it has come to this question
Eliza Madrigal: Ah, I did listen to several episodes of that.. but he lost me somewhere
Bleu Oleander: yes goes many places
Bleu Oleander: but rewarding if you stick with it
Eliza Madrigal: I thought about skipping a lecture or two and picking up again
Bleu Oleander: I find "staying with it" a very important concept
Eliza Madrigal: follow through
Bleu Oleander: so often I pursue something and gain by staying in the room :)
Eliza Madrigal: yes me too generally... though I sometimes tend to stick longer than I ought
Bleu Oleander: def can happen that way too
Eliza Madrigal: so I'm the last one there... the only one sweeping up, lol
Bleu Oleander: haha
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Bleu Oleander: i've thought of PaB that way
Eliza Madrigal: but mostly I so agree
Bleu Oleander: have I stayed too long
Eliza Madrigal: I've wondered myself... but I'm not convinced yet
Bleu Oleander: me either . . . jury still out :)
Eliza Madrigal: yes :) indeed
Bleu Oleander: still finding nuggets of insight
Bleu Oleander: still a "door of perception"
Eliza Madrigal: I still enjoy these conversation... still valuable and enriching to my whole life
Eliza Madrigal: so I try to bracket expectations
Eliza Madrigal: but not drop them entirely
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Bleu Oleander: I also find limiting myself to less time better for me
Eliza Madrigal: I'm glad... maybe there was just a need for rebalancing
Bleu Oleander: I think so
Eliza Madrigal: in fitting with the times at hand
Eliza Madrigal: I'd like to be inworld more... can think of a hundred projects I'd like to follow through on
Eliza Madrigal: but things haven't lined up for me to be able to pursue those... also I'm not sure the interest is really there on the whole
Bleu Oleander: interest from you or PaBers?
Bleu Oleander: or others?
Eliza Madrigal: PaBers really
Bleu Oleander: ah ok
Bleu Oleander: what sorts of projects have you wanted to do?
Eliza Madrigal: well I'd really love to see PaB branch out...
Eliza Madrigal: there is a general trend in SL groups of this sort (although maybe nothing is of this sort really, lol) toward visiting one another and having groups in other places
Eliza Madrigal: collaborations
Bleu Oleander: nice
Eliza Madrigal: it was different I think when we were leaning toward more pure exploration..
Eliza Madrigal: because that benefited from people coming here and being 'taught' in a way
Eliza Madrigal: what our experiment was
Bleu Oleander: yes has moved away from that
Eliza Madrigal: but now we are different . the foundation is there but more just emerging spontaneously in discussion
Bleu Oleander: probably time to step back and say what we learned from the original experiment
Eliza Madrigal: we have a unique form and way of things though... and good energy as a group that others would benefit from.. a kind of civility
Eliza Madrigal: and I'd like to play in the theater more
Bleu Oleander: yes the theater was great
Eliza Madrigal: I do that on my own a lot... reflect in that way
Eliza Madrigal: in making that measure of 'where to be now'
Bleu Oleander: exactly
Bleu Oleander: so . . .
Eliza Madrigal smiles
Bleu Oleander: big question actually
Eliza Madrigal: tis
Bleu Oleander: I think all of us have combined the initial experiment with our own lives and it has morphed into dif things for dif people
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Bleu Oleander: the "black box" episode of http://www.radiolab.org/ was very interesting ... the first part
Eliza Madrigal: yes, that's wisdom
Eliza Madrigal: I would love it if the will was present for people to articulate what that means to them (re your comment about blending and morphing differently)
Eliza Madrigal clicks
Bleu Oleander: too long to listen now
Eliza Madrigal: not loading but I'll make note
Bleu Oleander: but the part about anesthesizing the brain (spelling wrong i'm sure haha)
Eliza Madrigal: I often save your links and then they are there when an opportunity arises :)
Bleu Oleander: seems when the brain goes unconscious it becomes well ordered
Bleu Oleander: vs chaotic
Eliza Madrigal: fascinating... that would agree with current dream research
Bleu Oleander: waves of order flow over and "quiets" everything
Eliza Madrigal: mmm
Eliza Madrigal: synchronizing
Bleu Oleander: so consciousness requires a busy brain :)
Bleu Oleander: all the parts talking to each other
Eliza Madrigal: right hand and left hand not necessarily doing the same things but relating to the other
Bleu Oleander: consciousness happens because every part is talking haha
Bleu Oleander: its in the cacophony that it happens
Eliza Madrigal: how neat
Bleu Oleander: very cool
Bleu Oleander: back to "steps" I think exercise helps the brain handle more of this cacophony
Eliza Madrigal: that's proven true for me
Eliza Madrigal: when most stuck I walk a lot
Bleu Oleander: feels more alive in many ways
Eliza Madrigal: stuck with a 'problem' or puzzle I mean
Bleu Oleander: yes for me too
Bleu Oleander: I notice a huge dif in retention of what I'm learning
Eliza Madrigal thinks about the paths behind IAS where so many scientists walked and talked, working on things
Bleu Oleander: that said I do get lazy sometimes but always push myself back
Bleu Oleander: a pedometer really helps
Eliza Madrigal: there is a direct correlation for me between 'working out' as in yoga or walking, and seeing the incessant, sometimes obsessive learning I do, showing up in my life...
Eliza Madrigal: but illness at times sidetracks me
Bleu Oleander: indeed it can and does
Eliza Madrigal: so I'm always finding ways of 'in between energy' movement
Bleu Oleander: one's health is precious
Eliza Madrigal nods
Eliza Madrigal: health is so many things, too
Bleu Oleander: so i'm for tech that moves with you
Eliza Madrigal: At 40 I suddenly had a much better flavor for food... and that's been a big problem, lol
Bleu Oleander: hehe
Eliza Madrigal: most of my life eating was like... well I guess I have to do this
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Eliza Madrigal: I do think moving tech is so needed.. faster than its happening really
Bleu Oleander: yes
Eliza Madrigal: we're in danger of losing a generation of kids
Eliza Madrigal: losing in the sense of the most fascinating things requiring sitting
Bleu Oleander: the big downside to sl is sitting at your desk
Eliza Madrigal nods
Bleu Oleander: reading too
Eliza Madrigal: or in bed with the laptop
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Bleu Oleander: but I do insist on keeping reading for myself
Eliza Madrigal: and no mobile efforts have been successful
Bleu Oleander: right
Eliza Madrigal: hard to part with the wondrous parts though
Bleu Oleander: yes, I love my big mac
Bleu Oleander: haha
Eliza Madrigal giggles
Bleu Oleander: the one on my desk
Eliza Madrigal: I told someone in the mac store that if forced to choose between my car and computer I'd have to give up the car :)
Bleu Oleander: oh no question!
Eliza Madrigal: that would help with walking, lol
--BELL--
Bleu Oleander: yes!
Eliza Madrigal: Okay I know you must have a busy day... exciting night ahead
Eliza Madrigal: thanks for spending this hour with me :)
Bleu Oleander: we have 4 coffee places within 1 mile of walking . . no excuses for me
Eliza Madrigal: hah
Bleu Oleander: ok fun to chat
Eliza Madrigal: look forward to hearing about the salon
Bleu Oleander: take care and have a fun week
Eliza Madrigal: bfn, hugs
Bleu Oleander: hugs!