2009.08.13 19:00 - SL Nuns and Sex

 

The Guardian for this meeting was stevenaia Michinaga. The comments are by stevenaia Michinaga.

doug Sosa, Lingerer Xari and Isadora Davidov join me followed by a much larger crowd. Many of the attendees were relatively new to PaB yet that never stops interesting conversations from arising.

stevenaia Michinaga: hello doug

doug Sosa: hi.

stevenaia Michinaga: Sylectra is at the Sl convention in SF

stevenaia Michinaga: so I am subbing tonight

Lingerer Xaris: HELLO ALL

doug Sosa: thanks!

stevenaia Michinaga: hello again Lingerer

doug Sosa: And hi Linger

Lingerer Xaris: howdy

stevenaia Michinaga: nice of you to return 2 days in a row

Lingerer Xaris: three days in a row!

Lingerer Xaris: i think it's becoming a ritual

doug Sosa: ah, missed you yesterday.

doug Sosa: abd the day before :)

stevenaia Michinaga: smiles, soon an addiction

doug Sosa: i wonder why people would go to a first life second life conference.

stevenaia Michinaga: we will have to ask sylectra, she went to the one last year as well in Florida I believe

stevenaia Michinaga: a good reason to "get away" I suppose

Lingerer Xaris: i think it would be great to do something like Play as Being in first life

stevenaia Michinaga: in 10 days they will be doing that for a few days at their RL retreat

doug Sosa: yes, i do too, but its fun to play with the the reality of all these folks looking like roller bladers at venice beach suddnly looking like theya re from cleelan,

doug Sosa: Hello Is

Isadora Davidov: Hello everyone

stevenaia Michinaga: hello Isadora

Isadora Davidov: Hello Stevenaia

Lingerer Xaris: haha, Doug, that was hilarious

stevenaia Michinaga: maybe I missed that, what is cleelan

Isadora Davidov: It's odd...there were so few choices for what my avatar was supposed to look like...this was the best I could do...

Lingerer Xaris: hello isadora

doug Sosa: *cleveland.. sorry.

stevenaia Michinaga: nods

Isadora Davidov: Hello Lingerer...Yes, I thought you meant Cleveland

stevenaia Michinaga: hello Paradise

Lingerer Xaris: i knew what Doug meant. We do all sort of look like super hotties in here, don't we?

doug Sosa: you did fine for starts. Iam one of the few i think who made an effort to look like i really do. To me that is high play.

Lingerer Xaris: Hello paradise. Great look!

Paradise Tennant: hiya steve doug isadora lingerer :)) thanks

Isadora Davidov: I am no longer hot looking...although 30 years ago I was okay

doug Sosa: (hi).

Lingerer Xaris: i need to figure out how to start my avatar from scratch so I can make her look more like me. I like that idea.

Paradise Tennant: :))

Isadora Davidov: Um what does that symbol mean?

stevenaia Michinaga: sideways smile

Isadora Davidov: Thanks

doug Sosa begins the leading thought tonight of avatars visual appeal (hottiness) and the potential of resulting thoughts, RL vs SL

doug Sosa: i find the hottiness issue very engaging, and hence distracting. Some times I think, gad, if were really in a room with these people I'd be bathed in wet day dreams.

Lingerer Xaris: lol

stevenaia Michinaga: laughs

Lingerer Xaris: i tried to make Lingerer into a guy earlier, but couldn't get rid of the boobs

Lingerer Xaris: i wanted to see what it would be like to be a guy

stevenaia Michinaga: noticed that

stevenaia Michinaga: haha, for a while I was a woman in SL

doug Sosa: but its ok because we are supposed to be meditating, you know, speaking spontaneously about our real reactions.

stevenaia Michinaga: she;s still in my profile pic

Isadora Davidov: Well...I guess it is a sort of fantasy realm, but I don't like misrepresenting myself...unless it onstage, in a character...a different thing

Lingerer Xaris: i have been thinking about the dual experience of on one hand, being here as pure presence

Lingerer Xaris: and on the other hand, being conscious of appearance

Isadora Davidov: YEs, a paradox

Paradise Tennant: always interesting to see how we define our selves by our choices :)

doug Sosa: yes but you know if a woman is beautiful as most here are 15's on a ten point scale, i feel bad not acknowledging that.

stevenaia Michinaga: or how we are defined by others

Isadora Davidov: Right...in RL, self-representation, our clothing, etc...that's a lay preoccupation..well everywhere really humans signal their status and role via clothing etc

Paradise Tennant: hmmn really we are cartoon depictions ..

Paradise Tennant: lol

stevenaia Michinaga: for instance my avatar was created by a friend during my change from a woman

Paradise Tennant: *depictions

Isadora Davidov: tres amusant

Lingerer Xaris: yeah, i find myself torn between wanting to express something of myself throught Lingere versus wanting her to be pure fiction

Lingerer Xaris: oui, tres amusant, Isadora

--BELL--

Vajra Raymaker and Paradise Tennant arrive followed by Rowan Masala

Lingerer Xaris, being new to SL had some questions about some words and emoticons and their and meaning in SL

doug Sosa: so much of my life is trying to figure out what is real, what does this or that tell me about a person. Here it is almost ludicrous to try.

stevenaia Michinaga: hello Vajra

Paradise Tennant: hiya vajra

doug Sosa: (hi)

stevenaia Michinaga: hello Rowan

Paradise Tennant: hello rowan :)) gtsy

Rowan Masala: hi everyone :)

Vajra Raymaker: Hi Sevenaia, Par, all

Vajra Raymaker: hi Doug : -)

Lingerer Xaris: hi Rowan. I like the way you're sitting

Isadora Davidov: I'm less interested in the visual aspect..although this technology is visually fantastic etc...but I'm really more interested in the phenomenon of meeting people across space and in real time who might share interests

stevenaia Michinaga: you can touch the pillow to change

Paradise Tennant: really it is best described as a social interactive platform

stevenaia Michinaga: there is some sort of gravity that draws people tother here

Paradise Tennant: nods

Lingerer Xaris: nice bling, Vajra

Rowan Masala smiles

Vajra Raymaker: hope it is not too disruptive, the bling

Isadora Davidov: right...a social interactive platform...I am learning

Isadora Davidov: Wow!

Lingerer Xaris: it's lovely

Rowan Masala: but for many, the visual experience, including the aesthetic of it all, is very important in that interaction

doug Sosa: bling?

Isadora Davidov: Well, fantasy is enchanting...

Vajra Raymaker: tks

Lingerer Xaris: i find it a bit distracting. i sort of wish we were all wearing black sacks. ha.

Isadora Davidov: lol

Vajra Raymaker: Really? I was actually worried about lag.

stevenaia Michinaga: or nothing at all

Lingerer Xaris: now, but really, i just find it all fascinating. humans and such.

Isadora Davidov: oooo

Vajra Raymaker: I am not quite sure what causes "lag"

Rowan Masala: well, you could probably form your own group of people who wear black sacks, Ling

Isadora Davidov: What is "lag"?

Vajra Raymaker: Exactly my question, Isadora. But I know that it exists, and it is found on SL.

stevenaia Michinaga: lag is the time from when you type until you see it on the screen

Rowan Masala: well, that's chat lag

stevenaia Michinaga: *type

Isadora Davidov: oh thanks

Rowan Masala: but there are lots of other kinds of lag too

Vajra Raymaker: Well, that is the phenomenological description Steve, but what is lag REALLY, behind appearances?

Rowan Masala grins

stevenaia Michinaga: ...listens

Vajra Raymaker: yes, I thought also it included when it takes time to "rez", Rowan

Isadora Davidov: "rez"?

Vajra Raymaker: but that is phenomenological description again

Rowan Masala: and when you move your arrows but your av can't move

Paradise Tennant: ;)))

Vajra Raymaker: Become formed, Isa. I believe that the verb "to rez" applies to both avatars and other objects.

doug Sosa: In part a I am fascinated and exhilarated by the beauty of people here, but I find myself concerned when in our "open spontaneous mindedness of Play as being" nobody mentions it.

stevenaia Michinaga: like when you arrive somewhere and it takes a while to see things, that;s letting things Rez

Vajra Raymaker: All this I've learned from hearing people talk and making observations; I know little about the technology, thus, sadly, I lack knowledge of the metaphysics of SL

Isadora Davidov: OK...thanks

Rowan Masala: Doug, I'm not quite sure what you mean

Rowan Masala: can you explain a bit more?

Vajra Raymaker: .

stevenaia Michinaga: hello Pila

doug Sosa: Well, if we take the 9 sec meditation (or the 90) and explore how thoughts come, my first most always is the sense of who is here mostly by appearance, then other kinds of thought come.. It is always for me the presence of others first. I suspect it is important for others as well, but rarely mentioned.

Vajra Raymaker: Hi Pila

Pila Mulligan: greetings

doug Sosa: (hi pi)

Rowan Masala: hello Pila

Isadora Davidov: Hello

Lingerer Xaris: Yes, Doug, I agree. That's why I said something. At first, I chided myself for not being lofty minded enough. That is why it took me a couple days to just mention the visual component. And even a certain social anxiety about it.

Lingerer Xaris: Hi pIla

doug Sosa: Right. it does show i think a kind of taboo aspect here, which seems to me worth really being clear about.

Lingerer Xaris: I'm glad to see what a big turnout there is tonight

Isadora Davidov: THank you..

stevenaia Michinaga: I suspect all humans have that subtext running in the background to some degree

stevenaia Michinaga: some more than others

Isadora Davidov: It's almost impossible to bypass, unless you don't have the power of sight...we are so ocularly oriented

Paradise Tennant: beauty has a lot of dimensions ..it touches all the senses and even on a deeper level it resides in our soul .. everyone is encompassed within it conceptually

Lingerer Xaris: It is natural. Biological. Searching for a mate is programmed into the filter. Even in a false reality.

Lingerer Xaris: Or a non-biological reality.

Rowan Masala: but the interesting thing here is that we are in complete control of our physical manifestation here

Vajra Raymaker: When I first came on to SL, one of the things I was most struck by was how much people gave each other little gifts, and also helped each other. It improved my view of human nature, as a beautiful nature.

stevenaia Michinaga: well our scripts are in control

Lingerer Xaris: True! And if begs the question: who do we want to appear to be?

Isadora Davidov: And the "real" reality...how real we are conditioned to think it is...although I look before crossing the street

Isadora Davidov: What are the scripts?

--BELL--

stevenaia Michinaga: there are hug scripts that allow to people to hug for instance, care to demonstrate, Rowan? and many others

stevenaia Michinaga: /hug row

Lingerer Xaris: Ahhhhhh

Paradise Tennant: love the hugging .. and waving is a lot of fun too!

stevenaia Michinaga: yes, those are examples of scripts

Isadora Davidov: The hugging looks excellent..an advanced skill no doubt...

Paradise Tennant: lol

Pila Mulligan: in real life there is what we may call the Steven Hawking effect -- someone profoundly beautiful we may at first recoil from (if we do not know them) due to their appearance

Paradise Tennant: :)) pretty much easy

Pila Mulligan: ... Sl seems to bypass that type of problem by letting a person exist behind a more or less chosen appearance

Rowan Masala: one moment I'll give each of you a copy

Lingerer Xaris: thanks for the gift!

Lingerer Xaris: the gift of hugging. lol

Pila Mulligan: thanks Rowan

stevenaia Michinaga: you are welcome

Pila Mulligan: does it work for groups?

Paradise Tennant: do you have a flight feather lingere r will help you fly more easily

Vajra Raymaker: tks Rowan

stevenaia Michinaga: passes out hugs

Paradise Tennant: thanks rowan

Rowan Masala: no - just one at a time

Pila Mulligan: :)

Rowan Masala: I already did, Steven

Paradise Tennant: what a nice sentence

Lingerer Xaris: where does one fly to?

Pila Mulligan: somone should make a Huge Hug script

Pila Mulligan: multiple avis

Paradise Tennant: ooo flying is really fun .. so is falling

Rowan Masala: well, Bettina Tizzy has one that she sometimes rezzes in Chakryn Forest

Vajra Raymaker: Yeah, that would be cool, PIla

stevenaia Michinaga: well we are 103 units above 0, some places are quite high in the sky and you can;t get there without a feather

Paradise Tennant: fell for about my first three days would fly to the top of the grid and then plunge down ..

Paradise Tennant: :)

Rowan Masala: here's a photo of it: http://www.flickr.com/photos/rowanmasala/2956676407/

Paradise Tennant: nice rowan ...lovely pic

Rowan Masala: that's only 3 of us, but it will expand as far as you need it to, I think

doug Sosa: I hope we can bring the spirit of this conversation into future PAB sessions.

Isadora Davidov: THank you...I have been receiving things...but have no idea of what to do (can be done) except coming to sit here in PaB...

Paradise Tennant: the flight feather you just click on and wear

Isadora Davidov: Oh...thnks!

Paradise Tennant: it will help you fly higher hover more easily

Paradise Tennant: same with the multi tool and if you would like to hug someone you type a fore slash and there name in chat

Vajra Raymaker: How do you think the sense of beauty affects our experience of SL or things in life offline, Doug?

Vajra Raymaker: or anyone?

Isadora Davidov: Oh...Rowan, thank you....OK I'll try

doug Sosa: well, worth exploring, here the beauty ties directly, ye as Vajra said, to the heart, but it is also erotic and requires constraint.

Pila Mulligan: have you been to Kira Cafe Isadora?

Vajra Raymaker: Why does beauty require constraint?

doug Sosa: not the beauty, the erotic response to it.

Paradise Tennant: well esthetics has a certain order to it ..a harmony on some levels

Isadora Davidov: THank you everyone...I am rather slow (electronically)

Pila Mulligan: :)

Vajra Raymaker: Why do erotic responses require constraint? Would you say they should as a general rule?

Paradise Tennant: no worries isadora we were all there

Vajra Raymaker: oh, yes, order is there in the beauty itself then, Paradise?

Isadora Davidov: THanks.,...oh yes, erotic responses definitely require discernment

Pila Mulligan: and balance

Vajra Raymaker: Why do they "require" this?

Pila Mulligan: for coordination

Paradise Tennant: well a harmony .. certainly ..

Paradise Tennant: beauty is a subjective experience

doug Sosa: If she looks like tis in real life, i'd make every effort to get closer. if she knows that and knows she doesn;t look like that in real life, than I am insulting her.

Isadora Davidov: Well...I mean, one can be attracted...but it doesn't always turn out to be a wise choice to act on...something like that

Rowan Masala: well, I think perhaps Doug was referring to eroticism in this context, here at PaB

Vajra Raymaker: What assumptions are being made here about what erotic responses to beauty are all about?

Paradise Tennant: dependent on our senses and our preconceptions too but harmony .. symmetry have a universal appeal

Isadora Davidov: Oh

Isadora Davidov: Very classical vision

Isadora Davidov: WEll, organic too

--BELL--

Pila Mulligan: we came close to a first, a PaB discussion of sex -- at least I've never seen one here

stevenaia Michinaga: smiles

Isadora Davidov: I find this very restful and somehow comforting...to be in presence but sort of not alone

Pila Mulligan: :)

Lingerer Xaris: i really enjoyed that spontaneous silence as well

doug Sosa: I've hinted a number o times. nothing. We are supposed to drop all barriers so we can watch out thoughts. yet the most obvious t me is that people come here dressed to (kill is the conventional end of that phrase).

doug Sosa: out = our

Paradise Tennant: actually do a fair amount of meditation inworld and I find it pretty much as effective as meditating in rl

Isadora Davidov: WEll, I am interested to discuss, everything

Pila Mulligan: Paradise is gradually persuading me that sl=rl :)

Paradise Tennant: well for me it is

Paradise Tennant: i do not treat it any differently

Pila Mulligan: I'm not there yet :)

Vajra Raymaker: ah, Doug. I've got used to that at the other places I stop at in SL, about the dressing

stevenaia Michinaga: yes, discussing everything can take a wonderfully long time

Paradise Tennant: requires the same respect the same manners consideration

Isadora Davidov: Well so far, this is nicer than some aspects of RL

doug Sosa: I have brought much from sl to rl. More open, more curious, less inhibited, more relaxed.

Pila Mulligan: but there are no smells in SL

Rowan Masala: yet

Pila Mulligan: :)

Paradise Tennant: lol

Rowan Masala: beyond our imagination

Isadora Davidov: no, but I get to hear an owl

Lingerer Xaris: yes! the owl

Paradise Tennant: really like the crickets too

doug Sosa: the fact that vision and sight are easier to digitalize than smell tells us much I think. worth exploring.

doug Sosa: vision and hearing..:)

Pila Mulligan: :)

Isadora Davidov: That might be a scary day when they figure out the olfactory and gustatory

doug Sosa: so why scary?

Lingerer Xaris: in terms of sex, i think it's worth noting that if we were all here on a summer's night, having deep conversations in RL, some people would end up having sex

doug Sosa: yes but which ones :)

stevenaia Michinaga: the night is young

Lingerer Xaris: lol

Isadora Davidov: Oh...is that ok in PasB?

Pila Mulligan: :)

stevenaia Michinaga: is what ok?

Paradise Tennant: lol

stevenaia Michinaga: asks nievely

Lingerer Xaris: I think there are nuns in SL who make sure that doesn't happen

Lingerer Xaris: LOL

stevenaia Michinaga: SL nuns, hmm, I think they are all at the SL Convention in SF, so we are safe

doug Sosa: Pila, why do you think we have never talked about sex here?

Paradise Tennant: well .. there the difference perhaps .. cartoon sex is not sex .. while our attention and presence are here our bodies are not .. need your body for sex lol

Pila Mulligan: I don't know Doug

Paradise Tennant: that part is not rl

Pila Mulligan: aha

Pila Mulligan: see

Rowan Masala: that depends on your level of immersion

doug Sosa: maybe that is part of it, sex is not really possible here, so SL has a major limitation, and we don;t want to face it, it is to delightful, too paradisiacal

Lingerer Xaris: My friends recently told me about a certain sect of Buddhist monks who dig up the bones of dead women and meditate on them.

Isadora Davidov: OH...I have to go...my son's plane from Amsterdam just arrived in LA and I have to find my way to the SF airport...I think this was a really interesting visit and I enjoyed everyone so much...I am surprised it can be this way..good bye everyone...I think maybe I am the only one..but I feel the people here tonight were very kind and loving to a beginner...thanks good night

Rowan Masala: goodnight, isadora

doug Sosa: bless and smiles!

Pila Mulligan: bye Issy

Vajra Raymaker: bye; take care Isadora!

Rowan Masala: wear that, isadora

Rowan Masala: it's an AO

Lingerer Xaris: Bye isadora

Paradise Tennant: isadora if you have any questions or need help im me :)

Rowan Masala: I'll tell you about it next time

Pila Mulligan: drive carefully :)

Isadora Davidov: Oh thank you everyone!

stevenaia Michinaga: bye

--BELL--

stevenaia Michinaga: perhaps not enough of us have had sex with each other (I may be wrong though) so we can only talk about why we don;t have sex

Lingerer Xaris: the monks do this to quell sexual desire. i think what we come here to do- to explore being- seems to ask us for complete honesty

Pila Mulligan: monks meditating on the bones of dead women seems kind of morbid

Lingerer Xaris: and it is interesting to then note how much our human needs come into that

Paradise Tennant: it would do a great job of quelling desire though

stevenaia Michinaga: how do they know it;s a woman?

doug Sosa: very interesting evening. i think something about Isadora's directness and newness was a catalyst.

Vajra Raymaker: Weird: When Isa left, my camera view went along with her, rather than keeping the view here. It was as if my soul was traveling : -)

Paradise Tennant: hmm

Pila Mulligan: hi Archie

Paradise Tennant: :))

Rowan Masala: your cam was zoomed on her

Lingerer Xaris: hi Archie

Vajra Raymaker: oh, k, Row.

Rowan Masala: if you hit escape a couple of times it releases the camera

stevenaia Michinaga: hello Archmage, have you been here before?

Archmage Atlantis arrives

Archmage Atlantis: Greetings Pila, Lingerer

Rowan Masala: if you want to zoom on something, hold your mouse over it and alt+click

Rowan Masala: then keep the alt held down

Lingerer Xaris: I bring up the bones thing because maybe we let appearance distract us from the work of really BEING here together.

Archmage Atlantis: Once, this morning.....I have friends who come here often

Pila Mulligan: so you've heard the rap on recording etc

stevenaia Michinaga: welcome, I will forgo the introductions then

Archmage Atlantis: I know all is recorded

Vajra Raymaker: Hi Arch

Archmage Atlantis: I read the website

Pila Mulligan: and someone mentioned earlier there may even be nuns watching :)

stevenaia Michinaga: I even do spell check when I post now

Vajra Raymaker: lol Pila

Paradise Tennant: good point lingerer

Archmage Atlantis: I am too slow when I spell check, though with my disabilities it would certainly help

Archmage Atlantis: especially given the number of languages most likely present

stevenaia Michinaga: I put it in a text program that does it for me :)

stevenaia Michinaga: I certainly am unable to spellcheck anything by myself

Lingerer Xaris: how many languages are present, i wonder

doug Sosa: I must rise and go now... very interesting conversation and good support.

Pila Mulligan: lots

Archmage Atlantis: Then I shall learn the options going forward

stevenaia Michinaga: thanks doug

Paradise Tennant: good nite doug

Pila Mulligan: bye for now Doug

stevenaia Michinaga: next wednesday, naked PaB, DOug

Pila Mulligan: :)

doug Sosa: bye

Lingerer Xaris: bye Doug

Vajra Raymaker: tc Doug

Vajra Raymaker: I must be off too

Pila Mulligan: bye Vajra

Lingerer Xaris: the time goes by fast, here

Pila Mulligan: :)

Vajra Raymaker: Bye Pila, good seeing you. Bye all, thks Steve

Pila Mulligan: see you next time

Paradise Tennant: good nite vajra

Vajra Raymaker waves

Vajra Raymaker leave

Paradise Tennant: :)) waves back

Archmage Atlantis: I seem to have arrived just in time to see everyone leave

Archmage Atlantis: Miscalculated by 1 hour

Pila Mulligan: :)

stevenaia Michinaga: I am getting sleepy too, yes Arch, you were about an hour late

Paradise Tennant: have you a note card on the times archmage

Archmage Atlantis: Yes, and I added 4 to7 instead of 3

Paradise Tennant: ahh kk

Rowan Masala: must be off

Rowan Masala: goodnight, all

Archmage Atlantis: All is learning

Pila Mulligan: bye Rowan

Paradise Tennant: goodnight rowan

stevenaia Michinaga: I;m getting sleepy too

Rowan Masala: may you all be happy, and well, and safe, and peaceful

Pila Mulligan: same to you Rowan, thanks

Paradise Tennant: may you be happy well and safe and peaceful

Pila Mulligan: sleep well Steve

Paradise Tennant: :))

stevenaia Michinaga: see you soon

Rowan and I exit the group

Pila Mulligan: bye for now

Paradise Tennant: nite nite steve

Paradise Tennant: well Pila are you sleepy too .. or are you up for say 5 minutes of mediation ?

Pila Mulligan: it is only a little after 5 pm here Paradise

Archmage Atlantis: If one walks forward into the pool, is the return home automatic?

Pila Mulligan: meditation is fn any time

Archmage Atlantis: automatic

Paradise Tennant: not sure never walked into the pool

Pila Mulligan: I dont think so Arch

Pila Mulligan: I think Steve got to the middle to fly thru the hole in the roof

Pila Mulligan: going up thru it

Archmage Atlantis: I've seen it multiple times....that makes sense Pila

Pila Mulligan: interesting idea -- Storm could probably write a script to do it

Paradise Tennant: yes a lovely idea

Paradise Tennant: poetic almost

--BELL--

Archmage Atlantis: So the decision is to meditate? For I do have questions of those more experienced than is if it is not.

Paradise Tennant: what would you like to know

Pila Mulligan: I have time to chat, how's your time Paradise?

Paradise Tennant: good for about another 10 minutes then have to scoot to walk the dog ..

Paradise Tennant: getting late on the east coast

Pila Mulligan: so we can meditate in 5 :)

Paradise Tennant: sure

Pila Mulligan: in 5 for 5 :)

Paradise Tennant: :))

Paradise Tennant: sure

Archmage Atlantis: Let me know.

Pila Mulligan: 8:22 SLT (clock in the upper right)

Paradise Tennant: so archmage what were your questions

Pila Mulligan: and I can stay later after we meditate Archie

Archmage Atlantis: How did you each come to know of this place, why does it attract you, and what do you each gain by coming her......2 min each please

Paradise Tennant: lol

Pila Mulligan: :)

Paradise Tennant: hmm stumbled in by accident .. and found wonderful conversation

Pila Mulligan: it was recommend by a friend, I like the format and people,

Pila Mulligan: and it is fun

Paradise Tennant: :))

Pila Mulligan: how did you find it?

Archmage Atlantis: My friends Moon, Star and Fael keep mentioning it, then when I came to explore this morning I saw Ade and 3D mentioned on a guardian list

Pila Mulligan: :)

Pila Mulligan: Moon and Ade an Corvi met for breakfast today in RL

Archmage Atlantis: I know he is in Durham

Pila Mulligan: what fun

Pila Mulligan: well, we are almost at meditating time -- until 8;27?

Pila Mulligan: or so

Pila Mulligan: ready?

Paradise Tennant: yes .. always like meditating with Pila .. sleep like a baby afterwards :))

Archmage Atlantis: I show 8:22, is that correct....it seems not to change

Pila Mulligan: well, let's begin now and stop at 8:28 SLT then

Archmage Atlantis: Oh, it just did, to 8:23

Archmage Atlantis: I agree

Archmage Atlantis: Then, perhaps my sleepless nights shall finally end this evening

Archmage Atlantis: Stillness of the mind is difficult for me

Archmage Atlantis: Whoever built the wisteria did a masterful job of capturing organic complexity and beauty

Pila Mulligan: *ding*

Paradise Tennant: the bell tolls

Pila Mulligan: thank you

Paradise Tennant: thank you

Archmage Atlantis: Blessings be, thank you

Pila Mulligan: :)

Pila Mulligan: time for the dog to take you for a walk

Pila Mulligan: pARADISE

Paradise Tennant: archmage .. try taking one very long deep breath ..and then exhale it very slowly ..when you are exhaling just swooosh out your mind

Paradise Tennant: lol

Pila Mulligan: Paradise*

Paradise Tennant: yes

Pila Mulligan: swoosh :)

--BELL--

Paradise Tennant: for the time you exhale .. you are performing a mediation .. it is that easy .. practice ..just makes it last longer than 15 secs say

Paradise Tennant: :)) okies going to pouf .. and walk hairy :)) thanks again

Archmage Atlantis: I shall, thank you

Pila Mulligan: bye for now Paradise

Paradise Tennant: big wave !

Pila Mulligan: Hey!

Archmage Atlantis: We shall met again Pila, goodbye for now

Pila Mulligan: nie to meet you Archmage

Pila Mulligan: do you need to leave now?

Pila Mulligan: I was just saying goodbye to Paradise, not leaving myself :)

Archmage Atlantis: Paradise, it has been my please .....please forgive my badger Russa for he is always curious....Ah, then I'll stop his advance to the fountain

Archmage Atlantis: Would you speak more then Pila?

Pila Mulligan: yes, if you like :)

Pila Mulligan: shall we turn off the recording?