2014.01.20 13:00 - Infinite Ways of Being

The Guardian for this meeting was Eliza Madrigal. The comments are by Eliza Madrigal.

--BELL--

Agatha Macbeth: Hello dear fairy :)
Catrinamonblue Resident: Hello my dear Agatha :)
Agatha Macbeth: G'day Brucie
Catrinamonblue Resident: Hiya Bruce :)
Bruce Mowbray: G'day to you both!
Agatha Macbeth: And Blubbers too of course
Bruce Mowbray: Yes, he appreciates your welcome, too.
Catrinamonblue Resident: oh yes hello Blub :) sorry to have missed you
Bruce Mowbray: np.
Agatha Macbeth shakes a fin
Agatha Macbeth: Are you both well?
Bruce Mowbray: Well, indeed, ty.
Bruce Mowbray: And you?
Catrinamonblue Resident: yes :)
Agatha Macbeth: Yay
Agatha Macbeth: Hi Zenny
Bruce Mowbray: Heya, Zen.
Catrinamonblue Resident: Hi Zen :)
Zen Arado: Hi all

Bruce Mowbray: No Eliza today, huh?
Zen Arado: oh?
Agatha Macbeth: She'll probably be along shortly
Bruce Mowbray: kk, np.
Agatha Macbeth: I see Wollie on too
Catrinamonblue Resident: :) glad to hear that, love her sessions :) love all of you too but Eliza is special :)
Agatha Macbeth: Probably changing
Bruce Mowbray: I watched "her" last night.
Agatha Macbeth: Any good?
Catrinamonblue Resident: yay!!
Agatha Macbeth: Wollie ♥
Bruce Mowbray: (but will wait until later for detailed comment).
Bruce Mowbray: Heya, Wol!
Agatha Macbeth: Moo
Zen Arado: Hi Wol
Wol Euler: evening all!
Catrinamonblue Resident: Hi Wol :)

[ a bit of discussion of ways to see "Her" ]

Wol Euler: actually I will leave, because I don't want to hear any spoilers
Zen Arado: it will never make it to my local Omniplex
Bruce Mowbray: I will NOT give any spoilers.
Catrinamonblue Resident: it`s ok Wol we are jus talking about how to get it
Zen Arado: not bolckbusterish enough
Agatha Macbeth grins
Bruce Mowbray: We're not talking about the movie until a week from now.
Wol Euler: okay :)
Bruce Mowbray: wb, Wol!
Wol Euler: heheheh
Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
Agatha Macbeth pulls your tail

Bruce Mowbray: My, what lovely wings you have, Cat!
Catrinamonblue Resident: thank you Bruce :)
Agatha Macbeth: The green goddess
Zen Arado: all the better to...you with
Bruce Mowbray: flap?
Zen Arado: can't think of what to put there
Catrinamonblue Resident: lol was just hunting through my inventory :)
Agatha Macbeth: A wing and a prayer
Bruce Mowbray: flap will work.
Zen Arado: yep
Agatha Macbeth: Flap jack
Catrinamonblue Resident: smiles
Bruce Mowbray: If Blub can flip fins, then Cat can flap wings.

Zen Arado: Goldilocks and the 3 angels
Zen Arado: is that the right story?
Agatha Macbeth: Thought it was bears :p
Bruce Mowbray: something about porridge and wings?
Zen Arado: yeh we just changed it
Zen Arado: a new adaptation
Bruce Mowbray: However one spells it.
Agatha Macbeth: With salt
Catrinamonblue Resident: lol :)
Bruce Mowbray: oh yes.
Bruce Mowbray: How else could it be salted - except with salt?

Wol Euler: that is a lovely dress, cat
Bruce Mowbray: OH LOOK!
Agatha Macbeth looks
Bruce Mowbray: Aph left her cookie jar!
Wol Euler: O.O
Agatha Macbeth: So she did
Agatha Macbeth: Wonder what's in it?
Catrinamonblue Resident: thanks Wol :)

Zen Arado: where's Eliza?
Zen Arado: she is online
Zen Arado: somebody IM her?
Bruce Mowbray: In Florida?
Agatha Macbeth: I'm sure she'll be along in a while
Bruce Mowbray: warm, sunny Florida.... alas.
Agatha Macbeth: Maybe fell asleep :p

Catrinamonblue Resident: :) have something interesting to share if you guys would like :)
Zen Arado: sure
Agatha Macbeth: Please do
Catrinamonblue Resident: http://thekitchenrag.com/2013/11/you...ing-wrong.html
Wol Euler nods.
Catrinamonblue Resident: a friend posted this on fb :) it`s an interesting read
Agatha Macbeth: Shall we do 5 mins at the pause then?

Bruce Mowbray: OMG.
Catrinamonblue Resident: oh yes that`s fine Agatha :)
Wol Euler: yes, please
Bruce Mowbray: I have a fecally-obsessed friend who would love this.
Agatha Macbeth: Oh my
Catrinamonblue Resident: lol :) thought at least someone would find it interesting
Bruce Mowbray: 5 mins is cool for the drop.
Agatha Macbeth: Wollie can get tea then ;)
Zen Arado: interesting
Zen Arado: I heard it before though
--BELL--

Bruce Mowbray: (Ignore it.)

Agatha Macbeth: Oh I saw her come on and go off again then
Bruce Mowbray: Heya, Eliza!
Bruce Mowbray: Hmmm.
Agatha Macbeth: Maybe computer probs
Zen Arado: or family
Bruce Mowbray: Hmmmm.

Bruce Mowbray: Eliza would surely be here unless something were wrong.
Zen Arado: agree
Agatha Macbeth: She did say she was having some sort of computer difficulty the day before yesterday and was up late fixing it
Catrinamonblue Resident: nods
Bruce Mowbray: Send Eliza cookies.
Zen Arado: but she has a Mac?
Bruce Mowbray: don't know, actually.
Agatha Macbeth: Dunno
Bruce Mowbray: (snap!)

[ thanks for believing in me ^.^ - you were close...nothing wrong but something right and surprising. I would have been here though, had I looked at the time sooner! ]

Wol Euler: hello ari
Bruce Mowbray: Heya, Ari!
Arisia Vita: greetings all
Agatha Macbeth: Hello Ari dear
Catrinamonblue Resident: Hello Ari :)
Zen Arado: Hi Ari
Bruce Mowbray: We're waiting for fearless leader Eliza, Ari.
Catrinamonblue Resident: Eliza just sent an email :)
Zen Arado: what is the topic this week?
Agatha Macbeth: Ah
Agatha Macbeth looks
Arisia Vita: where is she?
Bruce Mowbray listens.
Catrinamonblue Resident: she`ll be on in a few min :)
Bruce Mowbray: yayyy!
Wol Euler smiles.

Zen Arado: "I am so sorry but I was in the middle of an intensive talk with some people, learning about an interesting sim and SL project, and completely lost track of time! I will sign on again in just a few minutes for my session, which I will officially be 30 minutes late for...with apologies!"

Agatha Macbeth: Eep indeed
Bruce Mowbray: no need for apologies, dear Eliza.
Agatha Macbeth: Yes what IS the topic btw?
Bruce Mowbray: uhhh,,,,, topic?
Catrinamonblue Resident: i don`t think we really picked any
Agatha Macbeth: Looks like Her is out of bounds

Catrinamonblue Resident: the suggeston was free flowing :)
Zen Arado: stuck on stuck?
Arisia Vita: let's not pick punctuality :)
Agatha Macbeth: Stuck on free flowing?
Bruce Mowbray: ;-)
Catrinamonblue Resident: lol

Agatha Macbeth: Anyone reading any good books? :p
Bruce Mowbray: Yes!
Bruce Mowbray: a wonderful book.
Catrinamonblue Resident: Silver Metal Lover by tanith Lee
Wol Euler listens.
Bruce Mowbray: "Where thge Heart Beats" by Kay Larson.
Agatha Macbeth: Tell us more Brucie pls
Catrinamonblue Resident: oh sry Bruce
Catrinamonblue Resident: listens
Agatha Macbeth: Oh, don't know her
Catrinamonblue Resident: and sits on hands
Bruce Mowbray: It is a biography of John Cage.
Bruce Mowbray: subtitle:
Zen Arado: ah yes
Agatha Macbeth: Ahh great
Agatha Macbeth: Four minutes of silence and all that
Bruce Mowbray: "John Cage, Zen Buddhism, and the innter life of artists."
Zen Arado: blank pages?
Agatha Macbeth: Liz ♥♥♥
Bruce Mowbray: wonderful book.
Arisia Vita: and here she is

Eliza Madrigal: So sorry!

Zen Arado: Hi Eliza
Agatha Macbeth: Yay
Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
Bruce Mowbray: WELCOME, good person!
Wol Euler: hello eliza!
Eliza Madrigal: I'm amazed to see you all here... thank you for holding down the pavilion!
Agatha Macbeth: You get the cookies Liz
Eliza Madrigal laughs
Arisia Vita: you are worth the wait
Eliza Madrigal: kind to say ^^
Bruce Mowbray notices that Eliza-ji sat right behind the cookie jar.
Wol Euler smiles.
Zen Arado: we were lost without you
Eliza Madrigal: I have an extra sense... a cookie sensor

Eliza Madrigal: what is our discussion?? :))
Bruce Mowbray: We'll be dropping for 5 in just a few secs, Eliza.
Agatha Macbeth: That certainly takes the biscuit
Eliza Madrigal: oh, excellent... thanks :)
Bruce Mowbray: yw.

--BELL--

Bruce Mowbray loves taking the biscuit.

Eliza Madrigal whispers hello to Bleu (pausing 5)
Bleu Oleander: :)

Eliza Madrigal: >tada<
Wol Euler: _/|\_

Bleu Oleander: hi all :)
Zen Arado: Hi Bleu
Bruce Mowbray: Welcome, Bleu!
Catrinamonblue Resident: Hi Bleu :)
Wol Euler: hello bleu
Agatha Macbeth: Hi Bleuji
Eliza Madrigal: you all look fabulous... sorry for my absent-mindedness with the time... but it can be a side effect of SL
Agatha Macbeth: And RL indeed
Eliza Madrigal: :) less so, haha
Wol Euler nods.
Zen Arado: and old age
Zen Arado: :(

Agatha Macbeth: Yes could you tell us more about the book Brucie?
Eliza Madrigal listens
Bruce Mowbray: I could, yes.
Bleu Oleander: what book?
Agatha Macbeth: As long as there are no spoilers :p
Bruce Mowbray: It is a superb biography of John Cage....
Bruce Mowbray: usually know as a sort of avant garde musician...
Agatha Macbeth nods
Agatha Macbeth just got what Zen meant DUH
Bruce Mowbray: but Kay Larson presents his growth as a Buddhist scholar and disciple of D.T. Suzuki.
Bruce Mowbray: Wonderful book.
Bruce Mowbray: Textured beautifully.
Bruce Mowbray: Fine touches about intimate things.
Bruce Mowbray: Hmmmm.
Bleu Oleander: I did a Molecule theatre piece based on him and his 4'33 piece :)
Bruce Mowbray: And I also learned a whole lot.
Eliza Madrigal: loved that
Bruce Mowbray: (enough?)
Bruce Mowbray: Yes, that is probably his most famous piece.
Bruce Mowbray: 4 minutes and 33 secs of silence.
Agatha Macbeth: Did you do that here Bleu?
Bruce Mowbray: except that it is not actually silence, of course.
Bleu Oleander: my most famous one also hehe
Eliza Madrigal grins
Bruce Mowbray also grins.
Agatha Macbeth: It strikes a chord
Wol Euler pokes you
Zen Arado: most rooms are about 40 decibels
Eliza Madrigal: Molecule Theater... first performance
Agatha Macbeth: Thought so
Agatha Macbeth: I remember Aph's scooter best
Bleu Oleander: :)
Eliza Madrigal: that's the one I missed... the second show
Bruce Mowbray: Did you say "Scooter"?
Eliza Madrigal: anyway..sorry to chase squirrels

Agatha Macbeth: Er...
Bleu Oleander: Vespa
Agatha Macbeth: Vespa?
Agatha Macbeth: Yeh
Agatha Macbeth: Italian wasp
Bleu Oleander: :)
Agatha Macbeth: Va va voom
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
Arisia Vita: needs a girlfriend on the back :)
Bruce Mowbray: ;-)
Agatha Macbeth: That's where Aph comes in ;)
Bruce Mowbray: yeppers.

Bruce Mowbray: I would only like to say one thing about "her."
Bruce Mowbray: This is NOT a spoiler.
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Bleu Oleander: now in the mood for some gelato :)
Bruce Mowbray: So no one needs to leave.
Agatha Macbeth plugs Wol's ears
Wol Euler: :)

--BELL--

Bruce Mowbray: My "one thing": Watch the layers.
Eliza Madrigal: hahha... people's better hurry and see before the rest of us burst ^^
Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
Agatha Macbeth: Yay

Eliza Madrigal: what was the most profound take away from the book, Bruce?
Bruce Mowbray: Hmmmm.
Bruce Mowbray: Perhaps that everything is the center of the cosmos.
Bruce Mowbray: absolutely every thing...
Wol Euler listens.
Bleu Oleander: what does that mean?
Bruce Mowbray: and it is all a bit off-the-ground.

Bruce Mowbray: I love how Cage was creatively unique -- and courageously so.
Eliza Madrigal: eloquent koan
Agatha Macbeth: As opposed to off the wall
Eliza Madrigal: or off the chain
Agatha Macbeth: Yep
Bruce Mowbray: of off the wagon.
Eliza Madrigal: or rocker...
Bruce Mowbray dies from laughing....
Agatha Macbeth: Careful Bruce
Bruce Mowbray: yeppers.
Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
Bruce Mowbray: I'm fine, thanks.

Eliza Madrigal: sorry to distract from Bleu's question though
Bleu Oleander: s'OK
Bruce Mowbray: Anyway, I'm highly recommending the book to anyone interested in self-development and Zen Buddhism and art... and (what can I say?)
Bruce Mowbray: Bleu's question? (looks back)....
Bleu Oleander: title?
Bruce Mowbray: The title of the book is:
Bruce Mowbray: WHERE THE HEART BEATS - John Cage, Zen Buddhism, and the Inner Life of Artists, by Kay Larson.
Bleu Oleander: Perhaps that everything is the center of the cosmos ... what does that mean, was my question
Bleu Oleander: thanks!
Agatha Macbeth: Zen and the art of vespa maintainence
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Bruce Mowbray: http://www.amazon.com/Where-Heart-Be.../dp/B0064W5NYQ

Wol Euler: I think I can see what they mean by that. If something is infinite, then it extends an equal distance (i.e. infinity) in every direction.

Eliza Madrigal: it is a pantheistic sentiment isn't it, Bruce, blended with the notion of "infinite in all directions"..?

Eliza Madrigal: :) snap
Eliza Madrigal: sort of
Bruce Mowbray listens intently.
Eliza Madrigal: we're listening to you!
Wol Euler smiles.
Agatha Macbeth: Bruce listening to us listening to him
Eliza Madrigal listens to all the listening

Bruce Mowbray: I'm not sure whether that is a "pantheistic" sentiment.
Bruce Mowbray: Although pantheists do feel that everything is equally "god."

Bruce Mowbray: It is more of a way-of-being-in-the-world for Cage, I felt.
Bruce Mowbray: everything he encounters, equally qualified to be the center, as it were.
Bruce Mowbray: every sound,
Bruce Mowbray: every gesture,
Bruce Mowbray: every MIS-adventure! (ha ha!)
Agatha Macbeth: Interesting thought
Bruce Mowbray: indeed.
Bruce Mowbray: I also love the "infinite in all directions" notion of Feynman....

--BELL--

Bruce Mowbray: Wonderful book, actually.
Agatha Macbeth: I remember his diagrams well
Bruce Mowbray: :)
Bruce Mowbray: oh dear... It was Freeman Dyson. WHAT IS WRONG WITH MY HEAD!?
Bruce Mowbray: http://www.amazon.com/Infinite-All-D...All+Directions
Agatha Macbeth: (Antlers?)
Bruce Mowbray: perhaps, alas.

Eliza Madrigal: “It seemed like forever ago, like we've had this brief but still infinite forever. Some infinities are bigger than other infinities.” ― John Green, The Fault in Our Stars

Wol Euler nods.
Agatha Macbeth: Erk
Bruce Mowbray also nods.
Eliza Madrigal: very sweet book... an afternoon's read
Arisia Vita: It's been great being with you all but rl calls and I need to answer...be well and happy and I hope to see each of you again soon
Eliza Madrigal: something about contemplatin infinity/eternity, makes one very still
Agatha Macbeth: Have fun Ari
Wol Euler: bye ari, take care
Catrinamonblue Resident: Bye Ari :)
Bruce Mowbray: bye for now, dear Ari.
Bleu Oleander: bye Ari :)
Eliza Madrigal: thanks Ari, wish you well
Zen Arado: bye Ari
Arisia Vita: until we meet again, keep smiling
Agatha Macbeth: :)
Bruce Mowbray: :-)

Eliza Madrigal: knock knock..who's there.. RL...RL who...
Agatha Macbeth: Tell him to go away
Eliza Madrigal: (sorry, restless and everything is striking me as silly today)
Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
Agatha Macbeth: Good
Bruce Mowbray: ha ha!
Wol Euler smiles.
Bleu Oleander: infinite sillyness
Bruce Mowbray: Silly is good
Agatha Macbeth: That is a beginning grasshopper
Eliza Madrigal: *^.-*
Bruce Mowbray: Silly is knowing that nothing is to be taken literally.
Bruce Mowbray: Not even sil.iness.
Catrinamonblue Resident: :)

Zen Arado: tried to download something just now and now I've got a virus orsomething
Eliza Madrigal: literally, nothing
Agatha Macbeth: Good to see we're flowing freely
Eliza Madrigal: Oh no, Zen :(
Bruce Mowbray: oh dear.
Wol Euler: O.O

Eliza Madrigal: it is a bit frustrating that even such well known/big films don't come to many theaters
Bruce Mowbray: Indeed, it is frustrating.
Eliza Madrigal: even in Miami I sometimes have to drive 2 hrs away
Catrinamonblue Resident: nods
Bleu Oleander: we have it in lots of theaters here
Bruce Mowbray: My t had a choice of driving 100 miles throuh icy roads to a city where it was showing.
Bruce Mowbray: (no thanks).
Wol Euler nods.
Eliza Madrigal: this one is pretty well distributed, but nods... depends on where you are
Bleu Oleander: agree with that!
Bruce Mowbray: There is still considerable difference between urban and rural settings, alas.
Bruce Mowbray: (in RL, anyway),
Bleu Oleander: price of peace and quiet
Bruce Mowbray: YES!
Zen Arado: I was led into temptation by *
Zen Arado: sounnd familiar?
Eliza Madrigal cackles @ Zen
Bruce Mowbray: and peace and quiet are worth that sacrifice.
Bruce Mowbray listens to more from Zen -ji about temptation.
Bleu Oleander: life is tradeoffs

Eliza Madrigal: I was seated next two two quite elderly women for Her, and one fell asleep and snored half way through, hhehe
Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
Bleu Oleander: oh my :)
Agatha Macbeth: Sounds like a good advertisent
Zen Arado: not their cup of tea
Wol Euler: hehehehe
Bruce Mowbray: Why on earth did she even come to the theater?
Eliza Madrigal: was sort of shifting in my seat at the beginning of the film... with them next to me...not sure how it might go over
Wol Euler: she probably wasn't planning to do that :)
Zen Arado: elderly ladies usually prefer historical dramas
Bruce Mowbray: :)
Eliza Madrigal: :) I'm sure she wasn't
Zen Arado: Downton Abbey etc
Eliza Madrigal must be elderly
Wol Euler too
Bruce Mowbray looks at his T and sees him as "elderly."
Eliza Madrigal: they liked it... but it was just kind of funny and surreal

(I meant the moment with the woman so close, snoring next to me during the film)

Zen Arado: ah good
Bruce Mowbray: Well, it was, indeed, sort of surreal.
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Zen Arado: we are used to surreal
Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
Bleu Oleander: actually I didn't think it was that surreal
Agatha Macbeth: Fish
Eliza Madrigal laughs
Bruce Mowbray: but sometimes we need to get "surreal' in order to find the "real." (If there is a "real")
Zen Arado: surreal r us
Bruce Mowbray: :)
Eliza Madrigal: I'd agree with that... forgetting what seems real... suspending the seeming reality

Bruce Mowbray: So, there we are again: the center is everywhere.
Agatha Macbeth: In all directions
Bruce Mowbray: yeppers.
Bleu Oleander: or nowhere
Zen Arado: wonders what's difference between surreal and unreal
Bruce Mowbray: Ain't it grand?
Catrinamonblue Resident: in the corner of your eye :)
Bruce Mowbray: Surreal gives us insights into who/where/what we are. I doubt that "unreal" can do that.
Zen Arado: hmm sounds good Bruce
Bruce Mowbray: hmmmm.

Eliza Madrigal: I walked through really lovely SL gardens and forests a while ago... and noticed that they were made to seem real, but with a fuzziness and glow around the edges....

--BELL--

Bruce Mowbray loves that fuzziness.
Zen Arado: actually too perfect is unreal
Eliza Madrigal: so satisfying the real, and then also the imagination
Agatha Macbeth: You can get stuff that does that in RL too :p

Bruce Mowbray: Oh dear.... Just realized what time it "IS" -- and my T says he needs to go.
Bruce Mowbray: alas.
Bruce Mowbray: so, I am gone.
Bruce Mowbray: THANK YOU, everyone.
Eliza Madrigal: :) Bye Bruce
Zen Arado: bye Bruce
Catrinamonblue Resident: Bye Bruce :)
Wol Euler: bye bruce, enjoy the day
Bleu Oleander: bye Bruce
Agatha Macbeth: Skate well brucie
Bleu Oleander: bye all :)
Wol Euler: bye bleu, take care
Agatha Macbeth: Bye Bleuji
Eliza Madrigal: bye Bleu :)
Catrinamonblue Resident: Bye Bleu :)
Zen Arado: better go too and sort out computer
Zen Arado: byee

Eliza Madrigal: what I felt about the forest is that it was doubly real... that it captured my sense of a RL forest, but also my sense of wonder... actualized/personified

Wol Euler: good luck, zen
Catrinamonblue Resident: Bye Zen :)
Eliza Madrigal: good luck Zen!
Agatha Macbeth: Bye Zenster
Wol Euler: that sounds lovely, eliza

Wol Euler: where was it?
Eliza Madrigal: the sim is called Creations for Parkinson's Research
Wol Euler: hmmm
Agatha Macbeth: Oh I've heard of it
Eliza Madrigal: Ill give a landmark... they have many events, but all money donated goes to research
Catrinamonblue Resident: sounds lovely
Eliza Madrigal: it is, gorgeous
Eliza Madrigal: and has the largest ice skating area in SL...year round
Wol Euler grins
Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
Wol Euler: thank you! I'll check that out
Agatha Macbeth: Ty
Eliza Madrigal: and an under water area
Catrinamonblue Resident: ty :)

Eliza Madrigal: there was a video that went around a while ago about it...
Eliza Madrigal: a Drax Files video
Eliza Madrigal: may have seen it...because it came through the PP list
Eliza Madrigal: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyiiW...ature=youtu.be
Wol Euler looks

Wol Euler: the guy at 2:27 looks just like Philip Larkin :))))
Agatha Macbeth: Stop larkin around
Eliza Madrigal: haha
Agatha Macbeth: Sgt Bilko
Eliza Madrigal: those are quite different tai chi animations from the poseball ones
Eliza Madrigal: wonderful people... spent 3+ hrs with them today :)
Wol Euler smiles.
Agatha Macbeth: Lucky them
Eliza Madrigal: but that's why I'd better go... and search for something to feed the kids
Catrinamonblue Resident: wow :)
Eliza Madrigal: (((( ))))
Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
Agatha Macbeth: ♥♥♥
Catrinamonblue Resident: hugs back
Wol Euler smiles.

Eliza Madrigal: am sorry to be late here though.... it is a school holiday which always sets my clock off
Wol Euler: enjoy the day, dear eliza
Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
Eliza Madrigal: bfn
Agatha Macbeth: Be well and spotty
Catrinamonblue Resident: Bye Eliza :)
Eliza Madrigal laughs
Wol Euler: spotty indeed

Agatha Macbeth: So there we have it
Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
Agatha Macbeth: Seeing those wings makes me wonder how * is
Catrinamonblue Resident: mmm Yes I miss her too
Agatha Macbeth: Hm, yes
Agatha Macbeth: She seems one of those people stuff happens to
Catrinamonblue Resident: nods
Wol Euler nods.
Catrinamonblue Resident: I should go.... I`m just waiting for the bf to get home ;) he`s working late tonight, hopefully he`ll be home very soon now

--BELL--

Agatha Macbeth: Bfs eh?
Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
Agatha Macbeth: TC Cat ^.^
Wol Euler: bye cat, take care
Agatha Macbeth: Fly well
Catrinamonblue Resident: yes thank you and you as well, both of you :)

Agatha Macbeth: How's the orcs?
Wol Euler: vicious
Agatha Macbeth: Sid?
Wol Euler: I've been playing a lot of PvP lately, and keep running up against a team of Russians
Agatha Macbeth: ??
Wol Euler: they are just awful as opponents
Wol Euler: clearly they're on skype or something, fully coordinated
Wol Euler: well-directed
Agatha Macbeth: Maybe they need Stalin back
Wol Euler: tehy wipe the floor with any alliance team I've been on against them
Agatha Macbeth: Fun in the dungeon
Wol Euler: battleground actually :) subtle difference
Wol Euler: but yes, it is great fun
Agatha Macbeth: Ah
Wol Euler: different fun
Wol Euler: people play differently than the software does
Wol Euler: we have a quality that I can only describe as "bloodymindedness" :)
Agatha Macbeth: That usually works
Wol Euler: which makes playing against other players so entertaining
Agatha Macbeth: Real blood?
Wol Euler: no :)
Agatha Macbeth: Not so messy then
Wol Euler: death in WoW is close to consequence-less, and in battlegrounds entirely so
Wol Euler: there isn't even a penalty in damage to one's gear
Agatha Macbeth: So you're dead but you still look great?
Wol Euler: you revive almost instantly, and yes :)
Agatha Macbeth: Sexy
Wol Euler: no, the point is that when you die in normal world play, your gear takes damage and needs to be repaired
Agatha Macbeth: Right
Wol Euler: which costs money, at higher levels it can be a huge amount of money
Agatha Macbeth: Ah
Wol Euler: but battlegrounds don'
Wol Euler: don't do damage
Agatha Macbeth: Not so bad then
Wol Euler nods.

Agatha Macbeth: Tried any other MMORPGs?
Wol Euler: yes, EVE Online and Guild Wars 2
Agatha Macbeth: Oh I remember EVE yes
Wol Euler: EVE became mechanical and dull
Agatha Macbeth: And Liz's av
Wol Euler: GW2 is just frustrating
Wol Euler: oh, and somebody introduced me to a MMORPG in develpment called "Ever, Jane"
Agatha Macbeth: Oh
Wol Euler: which is a non-violent RPG based on Jane Austin's world :)
Agatha Macbeth: Seriously?
Agatha Macbeth: Is Mr Darcy in it?
Wol Euler: instead of intellect, strength and stamina your attributes are status, happiness, duty, kindness etc
Wol Euler: yes he is :)
Agatha Macbeth: Good lord
Wol Euler: the goal is to acquire status and happiness in that social milieu, primarily through gossip and socializing
Wol Euler: it's unusual and odd
Agatha Macbeth: Aph would be good :p
Wol Euler: heheh, yeah
Agatha Macbeth: Bless her
Agatha Macbeth: Hope she found somebody to snog with
Wol Euler: hheheh
Wol Euler: can't be that hard in SL :)
Agatha Macbeth: True that

Agatha Macbeth: Sera QT :)
Wol Euler: hello qt!
Qt Core: 'sera!
Agatha Macbeth: Wow, the new Korel/Boxy :p
Wol Euler: heheh
Wol Euler: better late than never, as they say
Agatha Macbeth: Everything good I hope?
Qt Core: ?
Agatha Macbeth: Life-wise I mean
Wol Euler: thank you, yes, life is pretty good
Agatha Macbeth: I meant QT (poke)
Wol Euler: oh, I misread that, I thought QT was asking
Agatha Macbeth: Honestly

--BELL--

Qt Core: well if we don't count my temperature being about 38C i'm good
Agatha Macbeth: Oh my
Agatha Macbeth: In january?
Agatha Macbeth: That's pretty warm
Qt Core: that's what a flu got you ;-)
Wol Euler: wow
Agatha Macbeth: Ohh you you mean?
Agatha Macbeth: I thought you meant outside
Agatha Macbeth: Aww
Agatha Macbeth: Sorry to hear that
Qt Core: well, outside is warm to for january, 5/10 C big rain and several issues with heavy rain
Agatha Macbeth: Yes, it's mild here too
Qt Core: landslides, floods, at least one person dead
Agatha Macbeth: Oh dear
Agatha Macbeth: We had about half a meter of snow here this time last year I think
Wol Euler hasn't seen half a metre of snow in years, and never in Germany
Agatha Macbeth: Couldn't get down the path
Agatha Macbeth: One plus of leaving Canada :p
Wol Euler smiles.
Qt Core: well, let say that less than 150/200 Km from here, in the mountains they got 3 meters, iven in the city in the valley
Wol Euler: oh, wait, I missed what Qt said earlier, not smiling about that
Agatha Macbeth: Yeh

Agatha Macbeth: You should be in bed
Wol Euler: I should
Qt Core: being in it for most of the day
Agatha Macbeth: Not you!
Agatha Macbeth nods
Qt Core: now the meds are working and i'm able again to use a keyboard ;-)
Agatha Macbeth: Do they have lemsip in Italy?
Qt Core: probably yes, but i used the not hot ones, just paracetamol
Agatha Macbeth: Hm, I only use that for headaches
Qt Core: it brings down fever too
Agatha Macbeth nods
Agatha Macbeth: Not fun having flu at this time of year
Wol Euler nods.
Qt Core: (i'm a fan of effervescent aspirins when ill, i hate tablets)
Wol Euler: hmm, the fizzy aspirin doesn't work for me at all
Wol Euler: it has no effect
Agatha Macbeth: Plink plink fizz
Agatha Macbeth: Ah well
Agatha Macbeth: Time to be moving on I guess

Agatha Macbeth: Oh wow the recorder's still going
Wol Euler smiles.
Wol Euler: it is indeed
Wol Euler waves to Eliza

waves back and assures that she's done some editing in necessary places :)

Agatha Macbeth: Thought Liz had stopped it
Agatha Macbeth: Yeh
Agatha Macbeth: Ms Spotty
Qt Core: Bye Agatha

--BELL--

Wol Euler: I should get to bed
Wol Euler: goodnight aggers, buona notte qt
Agatha Macbeth: Ciao QT, get well soon
Qt Core: ty
Wol Euler: take care of yourself
Agatha Macbeth: Schlaf gut Wollie ♥
Agatha Macbeth waves