2010.06.01 13:00 - PaB Evolution and Noobs galore

The Guardian for this meeting was Agatha Macbeth. The comments are hers.

After my complaints last week that my sessions are sparsely attended, I should have known Providence would be flapping his big ears with a vengeance. Next time, I'll keep my big mouth shut....

Agatha Macbeth: Hello Liz :)
Eliza Madrigal: Hiya Aggie :))
Agatha Macbeth: Or should I say konnichi wa :p
Eliza Madrigal: >hehe< giggles girlishly "Konnichi wa"
Agatha Macbeth: That is a lovely kimono
Eliza Madrigal: Obviously I've been to the 100 free kimonos shop
Eliza Madrigal: Thank you. And I love your outfit.... are we singing Caberet again today?
Agatha Macbeth: :)
Agatha Macbeth: Any resemblance to Liza Minelli is entirely coincidental :)
Eliza Madrigal smiles... tre chic
Agatha Macbeth: How are you?
Eliza Madrigal: A little weird today... haven't been able to settle into things too well... buzzing around
Eliza Madrigal: You?
Agatha Macbeth: Ah yes, I get that way too sometimes
Agatha Macbeth: Usually too much to do and not enough time to do it
Agatha Macbeth: We lost the dream workshop tonight then?
Eliza Madrigal: Yup, no workshop today. You may have a crowd :)
Agatha Macbeth smiles
Agatha Macbeth: Is Max travelling then?
Eliza Madrigal: yes, for the next few weeks I think
Eliza Madrigal: Hm, but then again, she will be there next week June 8th... hm...
Eliza Madrigal: but not Sundays for two more weeks I think. Hm... haha... actually not quite sure it seems :)
Agatha Macbeth: Ah, I see
Agatha Macbeth: She must be quite busy
Gaya Ethaniel: Hello everyone :)
Eliza Madrigal: Indeed. She seems scheduled to the minute sometimes
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Gaya :))
Agatha Macbeth: Hello Gaya :)
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Druth :)
druth Vlodovic: hi
Agatha Macbeth: Hi Druth, have you been here before?
druth Vlodovic: yes, a few times
Agatha Macbeth: Ah good :)
Gaya Ethaniel: :)
Agatha Macbeth: That makes my job a lot easier :D
Eliza Madrigal: hahah
Gaya Ethaniel: :)
Agatha Macbeth: Can't beat an easy job!
druth Vlodovic: :)
Eliza Madrigal: So what's on your mind today Ag? any topics?
Fael Innovia: Hi Everyone :)
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Fael :)
Agatha Macbeth: Well, I have been wondering about PaB, where it might be going...
Agatha Macbeth: Hello Fael :)
Gaya Ethaniel: Hello Fael :)
Eliza Madrigal: Interesting question Ag! In what sense?
Agatha Macbeth: Well, it's been going for two years now, I was wondering how it will evolve
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Mick :)
Gaya Ethaniel: Hello Mick :)

Enter Noob #1

Tari Garrigus: >:O Hola !!
Agatha Macbeth: Hello Mick!
Agatha Macbeth: You're sitting on Gaya
Mickorod Renard: hi
Eliza Madrigal: I suppose that has a lot to do with the wishes and interests of the community...
Gaya Ethaniel: :)
Agatha Macbeth nods
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Tari, Hola
Mickorod Renard: Hi Tari
Gaya Ethaniel: Hello Tari :)
Agatha Macbeth waves to Tari
Tari Garrigus: lol
Fael Innovia: Hello Tari :)
Mickorod Renard: Tari is into science
Eliza Madrigal: Do you have thoughts on how you might like to see it evolve vs. not like?
Agatha Macbeth: Ah, you know each other then?
Mickorod Renard: not realy
Agatha Macbeth: Not sure to be honest Liz
Eliza Madrigal: Evolution is science :) So 'the evolution of PaB' fits if we like... hehe
Mickorod Renard: watz that Eliza?
Agatha Macbeth nods
Eliza Madrigal: Agatha Macbeth: Well, I have been wondering about PaB, where it might be going... ) Eliza Madrigal: Interesting question Ag! In what sense? . Agatha Macbeth: Well, it's been going for two years now, I was wondering how it will evolve
Mickorod Renard: come sit with us Tari
Eliza Madrigal: Yes, please Tari. Welcome :)
Agatha Macbeth: I hear an echo ;-)
druth Vlodovic: a starting point might be to define what it is now, and perhaps what it has been in the past
Eliza Madrigal laughs
Mickorod Renard: he he
Mickorod Renard: who's gonna do the intro?
Agatha Macbeth: Have you been here before Tari?
Eliza Madrigal: (at the echo)
Tari Garrigus: no, never

--BELL--

Agatha Macbeth: Ah, I'll drop a couple of notecards on you to explain us then :)
Fael Innovia: Hi Pila :)
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Pila :))
Mickorod Renard: heyyy,,Pila
Pila Mulligan: greetings
Fael Innovia: Hi Wol :)
Tari Garrigus: lol
Wol Euler: hello everyone
Mickorod Renard: Hi Wol
Tari Garrigus: i m reading. lol
Wol Euler: sorry I'm late
Tari Garrigus: >:O Hola !!
Agatha Macbeth: Hello Pila, Wol
Mickorod Renard: no rush tari
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Wol :)
Gaya Ethaniel: Hello Pila and Wol :) brb
Mickorod Renard: is the fountain out of sync?
Wol Euler: wow, aggers, what a great look.
Wol Euler grins broadly
Agatha Macbeth: Thx Wol :)
Agatha Macbeth: Trying to multitask atm
Tari Garrigus: ui, sorry i have to go now
Mickorod Renard: do we need to tell about the log on the wiki?
Eliza Madrigal: Nice to meet you Tari, come again
Agatha Macbeth: Oh, sorry to hear that
Mickorod Renard: ok,,bye tari
Wol Euler: yes, mick, we always need to say that.
Wol Euler: it's in the TOS
Agatha Macbeth: Via con dios :)
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Wol Euler: bye tari, take care
Agatha Macbeth: I told her already Mick
Agatha Macbeth: in IM
Mickorod Renard: I think we been too slow for Tari
Mickorod Renard: thanks Ags
Agatha Macbeth: Ah well, can't win em all
Eliza Madrigal: Tari was too quick for us
Gaya Ethaniel: [back]
Mickorod Renard: hi
Wol Euler: wb and hello gaya
Eliza Madrigal: or she may have seen the glue on the cushion... hehe
Agatha Macbeth: Didn't notice you were away Gaya, sorry :p
Agatha Macbeth: Hopefully things have settled down a bit now
Mickorod Renard: is that glue?
Gaya Ethaniel: :)
Agatha Macbeth: Sorry Liz, where were we?
Mickorod Renard: I always thought it was more sinister
Agatha Macbeth: Behave Mick ;-)
Eliza Madrigal: Ah, how PaB may be evolving, how we all might see that...
Agatha Macbeth: Mm, yes
druth Vlodovic: g2g,
Eliza Madrigal: Druth suggested:druth Vlodovic: a starting point might be to define what it is now, and perhaps what it has been in the past
druth Vlodovic: have fun guys
Agatha Macbeth: Bye for now Druth
Mickorod Renard: bye druth
Gaya Ethaniel: druth pointed out something useful if I remember.
Gaya Ethaniel: Bye druth :)
Eliza Madrigal: which is a great guide even if druth must leave :)))
Wol Euler: bye druth
Eliza Madrigal: Bye druth
Agatha Macbeth: (I know that dress from somewhere...)
Agatha Macbeth: Must be scare away the noobs night
Mickorod Renard: I think its been very enlightening,,pab,,not sayin I am enlightened,,thats too sensational
Gaya Ethaniel: lol
Agatha Macbeth nods
Wol Euler: some of the difficulty is that there seem to be two PaBs
Fael Innovia: two?
Eliza Madrigal listens
Wol Euler: the group that meets here to talk about food and onigokko
Mickorod Renard: I only been to this one
Agatha Macbeth: Zwei PaBen?
Gaya Ethaniel: :)
Fael Innovia giggles.
Wol Euler: and the core of theoretical meditators who are trying to develop a new system
Mickorod Renard: I wud like it to be a bit more formal
Mickorod Renard: exploritory
Fael Innovia wonders which group she belongs to.
Gaya Ethaniel: :)
Agatha Macbeth: I think I know which one I belong to [grins]
Eliza Madrigal: I like to have both going at the same time, though admit its a tricky balance...
Mickorod Renard: yes,,that sounds good
Agatha Macbeth: It can be a difficult balance sometimes
Fael Innovia: but what's a theoretical meditator?
Pila Mulligan: however, at the foundation, fellowship is the bond that holds any informal group together
Eliza Madrigal: yes, agree Pila
Agatha Macbeth: True Pila, yes
Gaya Ethaniel: :)
Wol Euler: somebody who thinks about it and tries to innovate, rather than someone who found a way to sit and does so
Fael Innovia smiles.
Eliza Madrigal: interesting idea Wol... hadn't really thought about that
Eliza Madrigal: I like both ways there, too
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Fael Innovia: yep! :)
Mickorod Renard: I like to think we can be informal but engage in something formal
Agatha Macbeth is not really an innovator, more of a 'Go with the flow-er'
Gaya Ethaniel: Informal is formal; formal is informal.
Fael Innovia would shout onigokko, but it's impolite to do so without wearing the thing and she doesn't have it.
Eliza Madrigal: indeed, Mick... but 'do' we?
Wol Euler: yes, it goes both ways. The theme sessions are very formal and (for want of a word) theoretical
Gaya Ethaniel: It's all in the mind ... :)
Eliza Madrigal smiles
Wol Euler: true, but that doesn't make them less real
Eliza Madrigal: is this pool our collective mind? hehe
Gaya Ethaniel: I think the division is too narrow imo.
Wol Euler: propose an alternative? :)
Mickorod Renard: even though in my session,,I am silly,,I do like to introduce something in keeping eventually
Eliza Madrigal: yes
Agatha Macbeth: Silly Mick? No :)
Gaya Ethaniel: Even within 'formal' theme sessions, one finds fun and spontaneity that some may easily associate with 'informal' sessions.
Mickorod Renard: :)
Agatha Macbeth: How can a guy with a pink tail be silly?
Fael Innovia: oh well... I can do this :)

Fael, ever inspired (just like her namesake) stands up and begins running round the fountain!

Wol Euler: o.O
Eliza Madrigal: I like to come away with a sense of at least having touched on something that seems... hm.. nourishing... but sometimes that's just onigokko so who can define
Eliza Madrigal: wow Fael, neat!!
Pila Mulligan: :)
Mickorod Renard: I am with you Eliza
Agatha Macbeth: Ah, a sponsored run round the fountain
Gaya Ethaniel: An outsider may see onigokko as a PaB 'ritual'! :)
Wol Euler: :)
Agatha Macbeth: The Bieup marathon?
Pila Mulligan: skilful Fael :)
Agatha Macbeth: And cute
Gaya Ethaniel: From where does one see this division of formal/informal & those who do/thinks.
Gaya Ethaniel: What kind of perspectives are involved?
Eliza Madrigal: Well, might there not be so much as a division but a question 'out there' in a way?

--BELL--

Gaya Ethaniel: For one thing, I can't see myself either in one group or another as you mentioned Wol ...
Fael Innovia: hmmh... a ritual instead of a shared joke :)
Fael Innovia: I wonder if there's a difference really :)
Eliza Madrigal: I will say that PaB has been unique in that there are 'explorations'... and I think engaging in those has a bonding element, too
Mickorod Renard: might I say something?
Fael Innovia: of course :)
Agatha Macbeth: Shoot
Mickorod Renard: ok,,
Wol Euler bats you with a cushion. Of course
Eliza Madrigal: yes please!
Gaya Ethaniel: :)
Mickorod Renard: I went to a lovely garden today,,just up road from me
Mickorod Renard: and while I was looking around
Agatha Macbeth: In RL?
Mickorod Renard: yes
Agatha Macbeth: Ok
Mickorod Renard: I saw all the diferent sorts of flowers
Mickorod Renard: and noticed how they were like bursts of fireworks
Eliza Madrigal smiles, nice image
Fael Innovia smiles.
Agatha Macbeth nods
Mickorod Renard: and this meant I cud take enjoyement from each bloom,,exploding
Gaya Ethaniel: :)
Mickorod Renard: like a star burst or whatever
Eliza Madrigal: :))
Agatha Macbeth: I love flowers too
Mickorod Renard: this is what pab is to me
Gaya Ethaniel nods.
Pila Mulligan: each one with a purpose for its attraction too
Mickorod Renard: getting more outa life
Eliza Madrigal: That's lovely, Mick
Agatha Macbeth: Nicely put Mick :)
Wol Euler nods.
Mickorod Renard: thank you
Agatha Macbeth: No, thank you :)
Fael Innovia: Lovely :)
Gaya Ethaniel: I have to go but I want to say that openness is important for PaB, allowing each unique individuals to come together in ever changing flux.
Gaya Ethaniel: Good night everyone :)
Pila Mulligan: bye Gaya
Eliza Madrigal: Night Gaya, good to see you :)
Fael Innovia: Good night Gaya, Sweet dreams :)
Agatha Macbeth: Bye for now Gaya :)
Wol Euler: bye gaya, take care
Mickorod Renard: thats nice too gaya
Mickorod Renard: take care
Eliza Madrigal: open flowers :)

I notice the water and the blue cushions have mysteriously turned red...

Agatha Macbeth: Has someone cut themself?
Mickorod Renard: I was thinking about it
Mickorod Renard: grin
Agatha Macbeth: Seems to be a lot of red about...
Fael Innovia: Hello Alfred :)
Eliza Madrigal: Hi ALfred :)
Agatha Macbeth: Hi Alf
Pila Mulligan: hi Alf
Mickorod Renard: ayup Alf
Wol Euler: oi?
Alfred Kelberry: good to see you all :)
Eliza Madrigal: You too
Alfred Kelberry: do you mind me inviting one guy to this session?
Eliza Madrigal: we usually come back to this idea of 'no formulas' which I think is important... but so is the 'feeling' that people get when they wonder about the direction, etc
Agatha Macbeth: As long as it's only one ;-)
Eliza Madrigal: hehehe
Eliza Madrigal: Alfred, please do
Mickorod Renard: has he had his inoculations?
Alfred Kelberry: he's into sufism :)
Eliza Madrigal: neat
Agatha Macbeth: Great
Eliza Madrigal: that's on the pab description.. hehe

Enter Noob #2

Eliza Madrigal: Hi Zaldaan
Alfred Kelberry: ok, please, welcome - zaldaan :)
Eliza Madrigal: Welcome :))
Wol Euler: hello zaldaan, I'm glad that you know how to sit :)
Zaldaan Sirnah: Hello, thank you please. :)
Mickorod Renard: Hi Zalden
Alfred Kelberry: wol :P
Zaldaan Sirnah: Wol? I'm glad you know how to type. :)
Wol Euler: some people don't :)
Zaldaan Sirnah: hehe
Pila Mulligan: assalamu alaikum
Zaldaan Sirnah: Aleikumu salaam
Agatha Macbeth: Hello Zaldaan
Fael Innovia: Hello Zaldaan :)
Zaldaan Sirnah: Okay, so pardon my appearance...
Agatha Macbeth: Are you new here Zal?
Zaldaan Sirnah: I am new to this area/group, except I recognize a few of you of course.
Alfred Kelberry stands next to woly
Zaldaan Sirnah: Wol, maybe Fael but I'm not sure. Alfred.
Wol Euler grins
Agatha Macbeth: Ok, I'll give you a couple of notecards to explain us a bit more
Wol Euler: yes, we've met before, I remember your name
Alfred Kelberry: maybe some kira event
Wol Euler: have you been *here* before, Zaldaan?
Fael Innovia: me?

--BELL--

Agatha Macbeth: We also record conversations here and publish them on a Wiki. Is it ok with you for your comments to be published?
Alfred Kelberry: so, you can't say shit or anything :)
Mickorod Renard: I dont suppose you know about random matrix theory by any chance?
Eliza Madrigal laughs
Agatha Macbeth: (Let the guy answer)
Wol Euler says "shit" all the time.
Eliza Madrigal: it helps the flowers
Pila Mulligan: saying shit during the 90 seconds is okay
Mickorod Renard: stop sayin shit,,its not nice
Alfred Kelberry: well, you're on exception list, wol :)
Zaldaan Sirnah: Only if you promise me that my comments are guided by oneness and love.
Agatha Macbeth: Oh they will be :)
Wol Euler: only you can answer that, zaldaan
Alfred Kelberry: sure thing, zal
Mickorod Renard: crosses fingers under the table
Agatha Macbeth: Well they will by me anyway
Alfred Kelberry: mick :P
Agatha Macbeth: And I'm one doing the editing!
Pila Mulligan: most importantly, Zaldaan, do you have any Nasruddin jokes?
Eliza Madrigal: heheh
Eliza Madrigal: well this is a fine first impression we are making!
Zaldaan Sirnah: I know several
Pila Mulligan: :)
Agatha Macbeth: The only Sufi stuff I know is Idries Shah
Zaldaan Sirnah: I'm not sure if they're jokes they might be real.
Agatha Macbeth: Oh hi Arch
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Arch
Wol Euler: hello arch
Mickorod Renard: Hi Arch
Zaldaan Sirnah: http://articles.sufism.info/en/sufism.htm
Archmage Atlantis: Hi
Agatha Macbeth: Thank you :)
Zaldaan Sirnah: I don't like the Nasruddin tale that's in my head for this time, what should I do?
Mickorod Renard: mmm thankyou,,but I suspect that was a serious link
Fael Innovia: Hi Arch :)
Zaldaan Sirnah: It's the one about the house he sold to someone, for too little money, when he was desperate, but he had a condition on the sale where one nail in the wall belonged to him, and he could do anything he wanted with it.
Agatha Macbeth: Kitchen calls...
Zaldaan Sirnah: Yes, the articles on Sufism page is not a Nasruddin joke :)
Mickorod Renard: :)
Archmage Atlantis: Because a tale (story) is told, does not mean it is a way to be
Zaldaan Sirnah: I drew a Nasruddin illustration (comic if you will)
Zaldaan Sirnah: Nasruddin was sitting on one side of a river.. a man on the other side called out to him, "how do I get to the other side!?"
Eliza Madrigal: Ah, nice... an artist then? interesting
Zaldaan Sirnah: Nasruddin: You are on the other side!
Mickorod Renard: he he he
Eliza Madrigal: :))
Mickorod Renard: nice one
Wol Euler: :)
Zaldaan Sirnah: unfortunately my draft version made it into the newsletter.. :/
Eliza Madrigal: Well then it must have been good
Mickorod Renard: yes
Alfred Kelberry: i'd like to see it
Eliza Madrigal: we can be nitpicky with our own things sometimes... but someone else comes along and says "wow"
Agatha Macbeth: Back. Like the bit about the river...
Alfred Kelberry: aga, pancakes? :)
Agatha Macbeth: Eh?
Wol Euler: wb
Eliza Madrigal: soufle?
Wol Euler: don't forget to share with your friends
Agatha Macbeth: Bit late for that Alf
Alfred Kelberry: aga, are you making pancakes?
Agatha Macbeth: Er..no
Eliza Madrigal: baked alaska?
Agatha Macbeth: Why would I be doing that?
Alfred Kelberry: ask woly, pancakes are never too late
Wol Euler: true
Mickorod Renard: I am expecting a treakle pudding in a moment
Wol Euler: especially if blueberry
Archmage Atlantis: Things and stories can be well spoken and designed, without being the way
Mickorod Renard: treacle
Agatha Macbeth: Well she's strange :p
Wol Euler: also true
Alfred Kelberry: mick, that sounds yummy
Wol Euler: hurtful but true

(Aww I didn't mean it! :(     *HUGS*)

Eliza Madrigal: Oh Mick, haha... well today I won't be able to stay around to listen to you eat :)
Agatha Macbeth: (Comme moi)
Mickorod Renard: owwww
Mickorod Renard: I like to torment
Eliza Madrigal: haha, yes
Alfred Kelberry: mick, maybe you like to challenge :)
Eliza Madrigal: Bye for now guys, thanks for the cat :)
Eliza Madrigal: er... chat
Wol Euler: bye eliza, take care
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Mickorod Renard: bye Ekiza
Alfred Kelberry: give the cat back! :)
Agatha Macbeth: Aww, bye for now Liz :)
Mickorod Renard: Eliza
Eliza Madrigal throws the cat to alfred
Alfred Kelberry: bye, eliza :)
Alfred Kelberry: haha
Wol Euler: we'll call him schroedinger
Alfred Kelberry: i'll keep it in a box
Pila Mulligan: bye ELiza
Wol Euler: snap
Alfred Kelberry: woly :)
Agatha Macbeth: Leave that poor cat alone
Zaldaan Sirnah: I don't have the image nor the newsletter onhand, sorry, Alfred. It's on an older HD sitting alone in the other room.
Agatha Macbeth: Hiya Yaku :)
Archmage Atlantis: Yes, leave her/him/it alone
Alfred Kelberry: zal, oh... all alone and dusty?
Yakuzza Lethecus: hi everyone
Agatha Macbeth: Springfield
Mickorod Renard: Hi Yaku
Pila Mulligan: hi Yak
Archmage Atlantis: Yes he is free
Archmage Atlantis: has free will, as they say
Alfred Kelberry: once being fresh out of keyboard read by hundreds now sitting alone all forgotten...
Wol Euler: hello yaku
Alfred Kelberry: hi, yaku
Alfred Kelberry notices aga sits closer to him

--BELL--

Fael Innovia: Hi Yaku :)
Mickorod Renard: you know,,we could have symetry here
Agatha Macbeth: Let's not

Enter Noob #3

Fael Innovia: Hello Quiver :)
Mickorod Renard: hi quiver
Archmage Atlantis: The thing I feel in my heart is we are all here as individuals
Zaldaan Sirnah: Quiver,you're sitting awfully close to be my wife.
Alfred Kelberry: zal, do you have more stories? i liked the river one.
Agatha Macbeth: Yes Arch, I agree
Wol Euler: hello quiver
Zaldaan Sirnah: Archmage, how do you mean?
Fael Innovia: What else could we be here as?
Quiver Quintessa: Hi :)
Agatha Macbeth: Hello Quiver have you been here before?
Pila Mulligan slips away ... bye everyone :)
Fael Innovia: Have fun ... oh too late
Agatha Macbeth waves to Pila
Alfred Kelberry: aww... pila left
Wol Euler: bye pila
Quiver Quintessa: No..
Agatha Macbeth: No, Pila right
Alfred Kelberry: :P
Fael Innovia giggles.
Archmage Atlantis: I heard the question Zal
Alfred Kelberry: anyway, aga, since when do you smoke?
Zaldaan Sirnah: Wol! Quiver reminded me that we met in a sandbox!
Agatha Macbeth: Since me pants caught fire

'Do you smoke after sex?' 'I dunno baby, I never looked...' (Austin Powers).  I digress....

Wol Euler: aaaaaaah!
Wol Euler: yes, that's right.
Wol Euler: many moons ago now
Wol Euler grins
Mickorod Renard: hot pants/
Fael Innovia smiles.
Quiver Quintessa: Yes, when I was a noob!
Wol Euler: funny how the wheels turn around...
Archmage Atlantis: Lunar calendars
Zaldaan Sirnah: Small grid afterall
Wol Euler: mmhmm
Mickorod Renard: treacle pud is nice
Alfred Kelberry: didn't know wol is still playing in sand
Zaldaan Sirnah: Alfred, I'm not very practiced in stories, but ideas and concepts and solutions and lots of experience thinking and contemplating...
Zaldaan Sirnah: Quiver crashed, she's on her way back.
Alfred Kelberry: zal, you did well with the river :)
Agatha Macbeth: Ah, ok
Mickorod Renard: I need to leave,,,,,c u soon guys
Agatha Macbeth: Bye Mick
Wol Euler: bye soon mick
Alfred Kelberry: bye, micky
Agatha Macbeth: WB Quiver
Zaldaan Sirnah: well I read a bunch of Nasruddin ones, with whom I was already familiar, until I found one suitable for the single-frame comic.
Zaldaan Sirnah: most of them are fun and interesting and bizarre, but not necessarily good Sufi teachings
Alfred Kelberry: tell us one more please :)
Wol Euler: I have one :)
Alfred Kelberry: what? sufi story, wol?
Wol Euler: Nasruddin story
Alfred Kelberry: go ahead!
Alfred Kelberry gets comfy and listens
Wol Euler: Mullah Nasruddin is sitting in the cafe one afternoon, drinking coffee and playing chess, as one does.
Wol Euler: Down the street comes a funeral procession
Wol Euler: as it passe the cafe, Nasruddin stands up, folds his hands in prayer, then bows deeply, his head nearly touching the table
Wol Euler: "A fine gesture, worthy of a mullah!" say his friends.
Wol Euler: As Nasruddin takes his seat again, he says "It's the least a man can do for his wife."
Alfred Kelberry: em...
Agatha Macbeth: It's the way she tells them...
Wol Euler listens to the crickets. Ah well
Zaldaan Sirnah: I read a variation on that either online or in a sick joke book, far from a Nasruddin tale :) Are you sure it's Nasruddin?
Wol Euler: mmhm
Alfred Kelberry: so, do we laugh now or something? :)
Zaldaan Sirnah: wow
Wol Euler: do whatever you think appropriate, alf.
Agatha Macbeth: Who is this Nasruddin bloke as a matter of interest?
Alfred Kelberry: thank you, wol :)
Alfred Kelberry: it was a good story
Archmage Atlantis: And a sad one

--BELL--

Agatha Macbeth: onigokko
Alfred Kelberry: crazy people :P
Wol Euler: he's an apocryphal figure, aggers, a kind of mysical teacher stroke holy fool :)
Agatha Macbeth: Ah
Fael Innovia smiles 'Would someone give me a copy of that so I can join the fun?'
Quiver Quintessa: Lol
Agatha Macbeth: stop
Alfred Kelberry: em, i was going to say how i like these silence breaks
Alfred Kelberry: but nevermind...
Alfred Kelberry: :)
Agatha Macbeth: Go on then
Fael Innovia: thank you :)
Fael Innovia: onigokko
Alfred Kelberry: ha!
Fael Innovia: stop
Archmage Atlantis: The first time I witnessed onikko, I knew, it could be false
Alfred Kelberry: :)
Wol Euler raises an eyebrow.
Fael Innovia: what could be false?
Agatha Macbeth: Can't beat a false onikko
Fael Innovia: what's the falseness?
Quiver Quintessa: I love how we all sit serenely
Archmage Atlantis: A rrunning from what one is
Agatha Macbeth: Pointless then...
Archmage Atlantis: Not pointless
Alfred Kelberry: i think i should make silence breaks in my rl meetings too
Archmage Atlantis: Just running
Alfred Kelberry: not sure about onigokko, though :)
Archmage Atlantis: I was wrong in saying false
Agatha Macbeth: Ah but you can't run from what you are Arch :)
Archmage Atlantis: Yes, Agatha, quite true
Quiver Quintessa: Before I crashed I was going to say it was all Wol's fault
Fael Innovia: you can run from knowing what it is though
Agatha Macbeth nods to Fael
Wol Euler: true
Agatha Macbeth: It usually is Quiver
Archmage Atlantis: Yes, Love, that one can do
Quiver Quintessa: lol
Quiver Quintessa: She introduced me to Freestyle
Wol Euler: moi?
Quiver Quintessa: and off I went!
Wol Euler grins
Quiver Quintessa: Yes!
Agatha Macbeth: Freestyle what?
Fael Innovia meeps happily to her left.
Zaldaan Sirnah: I misinterpretted the break as something we all try to implement throughout the day
Agatha Macbeth: Hi Ari
Arisia Vita: Hi all
Zaldaan Sirnah: and when I found it was here I realized here is just good practice for continuing it the rest of the day
Alfred Kelberry: we do, zal
Wol Euler: hello ari
Quiver Quintessa: It's a freebie fashion blog
Agatha Macbeth: Freebie fashion eh?
Zaldaan Sirnah: did someone give Quiver the notecards?
Agatha Macbeth: I *think* I did
Quiver Quintessa: I got addicted and then became a designer
Wol Euler: ah :)
Alfred Kelberry: next question, did she read them? :)
Wol Euler: my work is done.
Agatha Macbeth: Be quiet Alf
Alfred Kelberry: bleep :P
Zaldaan Sirnah: She didn't get them
Agatha Macbeth: Meep Meep ;P :p:P :p :P
Agatha Macbeth: Hang on

Noobs are like buses, you don't see one for ages then three come along together!

Archmage Atlantis: Pema did not stay... he fears his own creation.....perhaps that is how Y-w-h felt
Zaldaan Sirnah: oh wait, she got them, but crashed
Agatha Macbeth looks at the sky
Quiver Quintessa: I got 2 and crashed
Zaldaan Sirnah: Agatha, why?
Agatha Macbeth: Well now you have 4 then :)
Alfred Kelberry: arch? pema does?
Agatha Macbeth: I like clouds
Zaldaan Sirnah: :)
Zaldaan Sirnah: I thought you were looking for Y-w-h
Alfred Kelberry: i like woly
Fael Innovia: what's Y-w-h?
Wol Euler: awwwww
Zaldaan Sirnah: Yahweh -- or Yehowah or Jehova, etc.
Agatha Macbeth: A name of God Fael
Fael Innovia: oh, ok
Zaldaan Sirnah: Hebrew letters in the old testamen
Zaldaan Sirnah: and other hebrew literature I presume :)
Agatha Macbeth knows it as YHWH
Zaldaan Sirnah: that's probably it
Agatha Macbeth nods
Zaldaan Sirnah: it probably is the 4 letters
Zaldaan Sirnah: (which I recognized while typing the names out)
Alfred Kelberry: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi.../1/14/YHWH.png
Agatha Macbeth: Tetragrammon?

--BELL--

Agatha Macbeth: Tetragrammaton, that's it
Zaldaan Sirnah: Quiver talked during it
Wol Euler: I'm watching internet TV broadcasting from SL in another window :) a bunch of SL avs sitting around talking about open sim.
Wol Euler shakes her head admiringly.
Quiver Quintessa: :P
Agatha Macbeth: Wow
Wol Euler: a) that this is possible at all
Wol Euler: b) that it's free.
Wol Euler: which of those would most have amazed people 40 years ago?
Agatha Macbeth: c) That anybody does it
Wol Euler: hehehehe
Wol Euler: ok, yes, it would have to be people of the tv age
Quiver Quintessa: Probably the Avatars
Agatha Macbeth: I'm of the post-TV age
Wol Euler: http://treet.tv/live <-- if you are curious
Archmage Atlantis: good, SL, the concpt, is growing..... the onyly growing my cat an dI do is old
Agatha Macbeth: TV = television that is :)
Wol Euler: yes, aggers, probably true of all of us
Alfred Kelberry: wol, so, you're amazed by a live broadcast on the net?
Agatha Macbeth grins
Wol Euler: yes, alf, I am. I am a bear of little brain and easily amused.
Alfred Kelberry: :)
Archmage Atlantis: Fake Wol
Zaldaan Sirnah: I guess we had the last Science Friday's (with Ira Flatow, who you might recall from Newton's Apple)
Alfred Kelberry: wol, it reminds me of this "it's going to space" comedian video :)
Wol Euler: I suppose what amazes me most is that they bother to do it
Wol Euler: or that what they do is so traditionally, *dully* television
Agatha Macbeth: I guess that's what amazes anyone
Wol Euler: three talking heads sitting in chairs on a stage
Agatha Macbeth: David Byrne?
Wol Euler: sadly, no.
Archmage Atlantis: It gives purpose, Wol
Agatha Macbeth: Aw
Wol Euler: well, perhaps, who knows :)
Wol Euler peers into Aggers eyes. Admit it, you are Stephen Fry!
Wol Euler: outed!
Agatha Macbeth: No, he's bisexual :PPPP
Wol Euler: your point being?
Agatha Macbeth: That he's bisexual...
Wol Euler: yeeeeees?
Agatha Macbeth coughs
Agatha Macbeth: Nice weather we're having today
Wol Euler: indeed
Agatha Macbeth: Why is the fountain red?
Archmage Atlantis: The really nice thing about being old, is that sex is usually not the obvious reason
Agatha Macbeth: onigokko
Agatha Macbeth: stop
Archmage Atlantis: My copy appears to have died
Agatha Macbeth chants the te deum
Archmage Atlantis: So the question is still there
Agatha Macbeth: Which question?
Archmage Atlantis: Why is the fountain red
Wol Euler: is it?
Agatha Macbeth: That's what i said!
Wol Euler: looks blue to me
Fael Innovia: looks blue to me as well
Agatha Macbeth: And the cushions too
Wol Euler: oh!
Wol Euler: heh
Wol Euler: you have switched on "show transparent"
Quiver Quintessa: Which fountain?
Fael Innovia: no, that won't change the fountain red
Wol Euler: View/Highlilght transparent

--BELL--

Fael Innovia: just the flower and the water gushing up :)
Agatha Macbeth: That made things worse!
Quiver Quintessa: Shush!
Quiver Quintessa: :)
Wol Euler grins silently.
Archmage Atlantis: Please do not use :"diah:
Archmage Atlantis: fish
Quiver Quintessa: lol
Agatha Macbeth: How many surrealists does it take to change a light bulb?
Quiver Quintessa: 567
Wol Euler: banana!
Agatha Macbeth: Fish
Wol Euler: :)
Agatha Macbeth: Or bananafish
Archmage Atlantis: With great power, comes great responsibility
Wol Euler: mmhmm
Wol Euler: poor old seymour
Agatha Macbeth: Or concrete donkey

Anyone remember Worms?

Quiver Quintessa: 42
Archmage Atlantis: Touching my part of the elephant
Alfred Kelberry: ok, i gotta go
Wol Euler: bye alf, be square.
Alfred Kelberry: thanks :)
Agatha Macbeth: Forgot you were here Alf!
Agatha Macbeth: Box clever
Quiver Quintessa: We've bored the cardboard
Quiver Quintessa: Bye
Agatha Macbeth: Off to a bored meeting
Wol Euler: chairman of the bored
Agatha Macbeth remembers them
Agatha Macbeth: General Johnson
Zaldaan Sirnah: Fael, your name derives from?
Fael Innovia: sorry? derives?
Zaldaan Sirnah: comes from
Fael Innovia: I'm still confused as to what you're asking :)
Zaldaan Sirnah: what does your name Fael come from? :)
Agatha Macbeth: I think he means where did the name Fael come from
Fael Innovia: Ah... it popped into my mind when I was choosing my SL name :)
Fael Innovia: after some pondering
Fael Innovia: I initially resisted actually choosing it. It felt too simple.
Agatha Macbeth: I had wondered myself actually...
Fael Innovia: but... could not think of anything else and then gave in and saw if there were any surnames that went nice with it :)
Zaldaan Sirnah: anyone know if it's arabic or something?
Archmage Atlantis: There is power, power, wonder working power,in the blood of the j
Fael Innovia: but that's a story for how my main (not this alt) got her name.
Agatha Macbeth: It reminds me of 'fae'
Fael Innovia: (my main's Fael Illyar)
Archmage Atlantis: Fae is a name of a people
Agatha Macbeth: I thought it meant fairy or something
Wol Euler: I thought it was "leaf" backwards :)
Agatha Macbeth: It is
Wol Euler: I meant that it was intentionally that
Agatha Macbeth: Ah
Fael Innovia: Nope, I was surprised to find that out :)
Fael Innovia: Even if it does fit in well with the theme I had in mind :)
Zaldaan Sirnah: Alef!
Agatha Macbeth: Alpha?
Zaldaan Sirnah: first letter (a) in arabic, persian, and hebrew
Agatha Macbeth: Would you believe our letter A was originally a picture of a bull's head?
Zaldaan Sirnah: Hmm, our 2nd life ID's are going to be showing online in searches now.
Agatha Macbeth: All alphabets derive from pictograms ultimately
Archmage Atlantis: a middle one....neither apha nor omega

--BELL--

Agatha Macbeth: That would be Mu Arch :)
Agatha Macbeth: Well I think it's time I was elsewhere peeps, be well
Wol Euler: bye agatha, take care
Fael Innovia: have fun Aggers :)
Agatha Macbeth: This will be one hell of a log to edit...
Wol Euler: :)
Agatha Macbeth waves
Zaldaan Sirnah: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Be...n_DB1_1-15.jpg
Quiver Quintessa: Bye!
Zaldaan Sirnah: Old persian was this interesting set symbols, very un-picturesque
Zaldaan Sirnah: I believe it was readily etched though
Zaldaan Sirnah: Oh, I didn't notice the bell :(
Zaldaan Sirnah: heh.. the bull turning its head into an A is funny in Wiki
Fael Innovia: Well, time for me to head for the next place :)
Fael Innovia: Have fun everyone :)
Wol Euler: bye fael
Wol Euler: I too should head out, time for bed.
Zaldaan Sirnah: bye :)
Wol Euler: It was nice to see you again, Zaldaan and Quiver
Zaldaan Sirnah: Likewise :)
Wol Euler: bye arch, take care
Zaldaan Sirnah: Interesting
Zaldaan Sirnah: When are the meetings here?
Quiver Quintessa: You too Wol
Wol Euler: 1am 7am 1pm 7pm
Wol Euler: every day
Quiver Quintessa: :)
Zaldaan Sirnah: nice :)
Zaldaan Sirnah: thanks
Wol Euler: something for everyone :)
Wol Euler: bye for now
Zaldaan Sirnah: bye
Zaldaan Sirnah: :)