2010.06.29 01:00 - Knowing and Snakes

The Guardian for this meeting was Cosmicflower Ushimawa. The comments are by Cosmicflower Ushimawa.

Cosmicflower Ushimawa: hello crusty
Crusty Goldshark: hi
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: silent here today :)
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: You have been here before? I "guess"
Crusty Goldshark: only in terms of sound and people
Crusty Goldshark: I have been here before
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ok ;)
Crusty Goldshark: Just downloaded second life for a meeting of kundalini group meeting tommorrow
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ahh, its wonderfull
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: what do You do there on group?
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: raising Kundalini?
Crusty Goldshark: I kill snakes
Crusty Goldshark: some raise them
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: hmm
Crusty Goldshark: :)
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: why kill?
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: isn`t kundalini good for of energy?
Crusty Goldshark: some people have energy that is not beneficial to them or others
Crusty Goldshark: You feel all energy is benign?
--BELL--
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: form of energy, sorry typo
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: I feel all energy has always been
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: kind of for reason too
Crusty Goldshark: it may be a form of energy or pschosis
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: pschosis?
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: have other word?
Crusty Goldshark: psychosis - madness
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: hmm
Crusty Goldshark: dertimental to sense of being
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: do You mean Kundalini energy as sexual energy?
Crusty Goldshark: no
Crusty Goldshark: it is associated with sexual energy
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: Yes, i see that
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: I take it to be kind of energy of life
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: moving in human
Crusty Goldshark: If people had a rise in sexual energy that is likely a good thing
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: but its not hand in hand with sexual energy, no?
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: I have thought it is some way connected
Crusty Goldshark: Well your description is like chi or prana and is beneficial :)
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: about snakes
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: I think snake is Love
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: or there are as well
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: two headed snakes
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: other head is white
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: and other is that not-good
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: lol
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: and its up to person how to choose
Crusty Goldshark: Yes snake may well be Love - most things are - but not everyone at every time can benefirt from such manifests
Crusty Goldshark: Again you assume everyone can choose what is in their best interests - if that was true we would live in a real worl that was more peace and Love
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: I have not "read " or "studied" much, thats why having much questions
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: reflecting things to inner feel
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: or experience
Crusty Goldshark: understood
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: hmm
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: I think everyone can choose
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: but
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: if not being aware of it?
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: posibility??
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: hmm,
Crusty Goldshark: Perhaps. Perhaps the overself or higher self does choose what we require but I have a feeling that this process is often hampered by the enemy
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: their best interests..
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: hmm
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: thinking
Crusty Goldshark: Who do you think the enemy is?
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: hampered?
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: why there should be an enemy?
Crusty Goldshark: obscured, twarted, impeeded, stopped . . .
Crusty Goldshark: There is no enemy but people are hampered by her
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: I see no enemy
Crusty Goldshark: then there is none
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: prefere aceptance
Crusty Goldshark: LOL - some people accept the good with the bad and sometimes take on more bad than is good for them . . .
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ;))
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: yes
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: I understand
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: thats why its good to have free will to choose
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ;)
Crusty Goldshark: This is why in karmic terms we kill snakes or interfere with other peoples karmic choices
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: hmm
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: its a bit difficult
Crusty Goldshark: Free will does not exist for most of us - too much karma
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: if thinking "all aceptance"
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: and still should sometime say NO , or make some shelter
Crusty Goldshark: OK let me put it another way - rather than your passive acceptance - what can you do for me? What form would a prayer or blessing take?
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: is it about much karma ? hand in hand with free will... .
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: hmm
Crusty Goldshark: If I wished to eat a scorpion would you try and stop me?
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: what would You need?
Crusty Goldshark: Not to be a danger to myself :)
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: hmm, I have lived that kind of issue about one year ago
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: one girl
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: wanted to dye
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: very much
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: I tried to safe her
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: but could not
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: and she went
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: soo
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: I think
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: there are things
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: what I can do nothing about it
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: eaven trying
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: if you decide to eat that scorpion
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: I think you would eat it
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: when I turn just a little bit
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: Can not rule over it
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: but what I did with this girl
--BELL--
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: I tried to show some other possibilities to her
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: how she can shoose differently
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: as well
Crusty Goldshark: OK - if she was suffering from depression - then it was not the right decision - but it was perhaps the only bearable possibility
Crusty Goldshark: The point is we do interact and that process means we learn and accept and offer any help we can . . whether it is taken or can be taken is dependent on our level of skill . . .
Crusty Goldshark: People are not free
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: they should be
Crusty Goldshark: People are not karmically open and free to choose
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: everyone should have that possibility
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: I think
Crusty Goldshark: Yes maybe they should be but the reality is many are crazy or disturbed and that is just me ;)
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ;)
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: You disturbed?
Crusty Goldshark: sure
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: want to share of it?
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: why?
Crusty Goldshark: Why would I wish to burden others _ I can take responsibility for my situation ;)
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: okey
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: hmm
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: but sometimes its releases when sharing
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: I think
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: its not ment to carry all by one-self
Crusty Goldshark: I think I am too accepting . . .
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: thats why here is others too
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: hmm
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: well
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: I am also very much accepting
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: sometimes "suffer" from it a little
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: but
Crusty Goldshark: I accept your acceptingness
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: mostly "finding" the way
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: out of suffer
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: heart is very hard to deny help
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: in me
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: hard to say no
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: in general
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: eaven if there are those limits on human kind
Crusty Goldshark: Yes I would say no is a word worth learning for me]
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: hmm
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: boundering now
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: how I would feel
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: If I say YES
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: I feel joy
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: How I feel if I say NO
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: makes some pain, like putting my-Self on bud
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: Yes is like open rose
Crusty Goldshark: No has to be spelt KNOW - then it is less noing
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: No is like a bud of a flower
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: and that moving
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: to go on bud
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: do not feel good
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ahh
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: about awareness of Knowing
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: I think that is totally different thing
Crusty Goldshark: How so?
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: not think
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: or hesitate
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: only to Know
Crusty Goldshark: And is only to know like a bud and a flower and a petal dropping?
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: hmm
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: it takes all
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: yes
Crusty Goldshark: So no is an expression of yes
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: lol
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: can we do that kind of assume
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ? ;D
Crusty Goldshark: maybe restrictive maybe constraining but a form of acceptance
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: NO- YES
Crusty Goldshark: :)
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: and all "above"
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: yess
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: I feel good about that
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: Thank You
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: I have not thought No to be Yes
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ;)))
Crusty Goldshark: So I feel that when I interfere or participate in other peoples karma with good intent and open acceptance it may unburden them as well as me - hence killing snakes
--BELL--
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: new thinking is always wonderfull to find ;)
Crusty Goldshark: All things come down to intent - you say yes to someone else and that may be yes for yourself and vice versa - to treat your self as not important may be right for humility but it may be wrong is some situations . . .
Crusty Goldshark: So I treat the other person as myself and you did not want the girl to die and tried to save her - good for you . . .
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ;) heh
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: yes
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: I see
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ;)
Crusty Goldshark: Well a great time to finish CU again some time :) No?
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: Yes we see ;) I think
Crusty Goldshark: Many thanks to you - goodbye