2010.06.29 13:00 - 'Life's a Bowl of Cherries'

The Guardian for this meeting was Agatha Macbeth. The comments are by Agatha Macbeth.

I arrived at the Pagoda to find Sharon interviewing Wester for the Chronicles in IM.

Qt Core: hi Subaru, Agatha
Agatha Macbeth: Hi QT
Subaru Arun: Hi QT :)

--BELL--

Qt Core: Hi Calvino
Agatha Macbeth: Hello Cal
Calvino Rabeni: Good day everyone !
Wester Kiranov: Hi Cal
SophiaSharon Larnia: Hi Qt, Agatha, Calvino and Subaru :)
Subaru Arun: Hi Calvino :)
SophiaSharon Larnia: oops and Wester :)
Agatha Macbeth: Hehe
Wester Kiranov: I think we've met already ;)
SophiaSharon Larnia: laughs
Agatha Macbeth: Do we have anything to talk about this evening?
Agatha Macbeth: (Or morning or afternoon as the case may be)
Calvino Rabeni: How about interspecies communication ?
Qt Core: it seem we don't
Agatha Macbeth: Sounds good to me :)
Agatha Macbeth: Hi Bleu
Subaru Arun: Hello Bleu
Bleu Oleander: hi everyone :)
SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Bleu
Qt Core: as if we can communicate well just with our own ;-)
Calvino Rabeni: There were some puppies brought to the house next to my kitchen
Qt Core: hi Bleu
Calvino Rabeni: they grew up fast, became barky dogs
Wester Kiranov: hi Bleu
Calvino Rabeni: when I wash at the kitchen sink, they are suspicious and won't stop barking

--BELL--

Calvino Rabeni: so I decided I would cure them of it
SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Zon
Zon Quar: hello...
Qt Core: Hi Zon
Wester Kiranov: hi zon
Qt Core: hi
Agatha Macbeth: How did you go about it then Cal?
Bleu Oleander: hi Zon
Agatha Macbeth: Hi Zon
Subaru Arun: Hello Zon :)
Calvino Rabeni: I opened the kitchen window, and made lots of noise, clanking and running water and clinking dishes and flatware
Calvino Rabeni: and after awhile they just got bored
Calvino Rabeni: and figured, "nothing to see here"
Calvino Rabeni: so no more barking :)
Agatha Macbeth: Aww
Wester Kiranov: how long did you have to clank?
Agatha Macbeth: Com-pa-shun :)
Agatha Macbeth: In reverse...
Calvino Rabeni: Only as long as it took to do the dishes :)
Agatha Macbeth: Surprised the dogs didn't offer to dry :)
Agatha Macbeth: Spain just beat Portugal 1-0
Qt Core: i seem to communicate well with dog... it's a pity the only message we send each other is mutual dislike
SophiaSharon Larnia: gtg bye everyone ^^
Agatha Macbeth: Just tell him to leave your leg alone ;-)
Qt Core: bye Sophia
SophiaSharon Larnia: waves
Agatha Macbeth: C ya Shaz
Subaru Arun: Bye Sharon :)
Wester Kiranov: bye sophia
Bleu Oleander: me too, cu :)
Agatha Macbeth: Bye Bleu
Subaru Arun: Bye for now Bleu
Wester Kiranov: well, then I'm off too. bye bleu, bye everybody
Qt Core: bye Wester
Agatha Macbeth: See ya Wester
Subaru Arun: Bye Wester :)
Subaru Arun: I seem to have arrived upon a quiet session :)
Subaru Arun: Bye for now
Qt Core: :) Bye
Agatha Macbeth: C ya :)

This sudden exodus leaves Me, Cal and QT in the Pagoda...

Calvino Rabeni: Can't have that ... another topic perhaps?
Calvino Rabeni: The World Cup?
Agatha Macbeth: As long as it's not logging :p
Qt Core: are byou really proposing to speak about the current world cup to an italian ;-)
Agatha Macbeth: Yeah, who's gonna win QT?
Calvino Rabeni: What is your feeling about logging, Agatha ?
Agatha Macbeth: I think people are going on about it way too much
Calvino Rabeni: Too much for what ?

--BELL--

Qt Core: don't really know, this year, even before italian team debacle i wasn't enjoying the matches
Agatha Macbeth: Either a) you record peoples' comments or b) you don't. It's really that simple IMHO
Agatha Macbeth: I think I fancy Holland now
Qt Core: i'm approaching it from a negative pov, i hope brasil nor argentina would win
Calvino Rabeni: Ah, so it comes down to just a basic logic statement?
Agatha Macbeth: Spain always have a chance too
Agatha Macbeth: Well, yeah...
Calvino Rabeni: Hello Wol
Wol Euler: hello qt, agatha, cal
Qt Core: hi wol
Agatha Macbeth: Hi Wol
Calvino Rabeni: We have logging and the world cup as competing topics]
Wol Euler: ah :)
Agatha Macbeth: Fascinating eh?
Wol Euler: hello yaku
Qt Core: i wonder ow people against logging act about people saving local chat and or IM
Calvino Rabeni: Yaku - glad you're here
Yakuzza Lethecus: ah, dream
Agatha Macbeth: Are you stopping or passing through Yaku :)
Yakuzza Lethecus: i think i am leaving already yes
Yakuzza Lethecus: i forgot about the dreamworkshop
Agatha Macbeth: Ach, mein Gott! :)
Qt Core: have fun then, Yaku
Agatha Macbeth: Dream on Yaku
Agatha Macbeth: Now I've lawst me fred
Agatha Macbeth reads back
Agatha Macbeth: Well to answer your question QT, people can still record their own chat or IM irrespective of logging
Agatha Macbeth: So for me it invalidates the whole issue really
Wol Euler: I suspect that the issue is publishing, not recording as such
Agatha Macbeth: Mm, probably
Sartre Placebo: yes, becaue we all are loggin
Qt Core: yes, i'm wondering about/if these non logging people think about that kind of logging
Agatha Macbeth: But people would still have a record of what is said nontheless
Wol Euler: hello sartre
Wol Euler: sure, but the whole world would not.
Agatha Macbeth: Actually would they even think about that?
Wol Euler: that is the difference, if I understand it correctly
Sartre Placebo: i remember wol´s kind reminders that emererald updates make logging stop
Agatha Macbeth: Hi Satre
Wol Euler: :)
Agatha Macbeth: (This bloke gets around)
Qt Core: who tells you wol that someone will not publish them somewhere, not respecting sl terms ?
Wol Euler: nobody, of course.
Qt Core: hi sartre
Wol Euler: but we *do* say that we *will* publish them
Sartre Placebo: yaku here
Agatha Macbeth: Anyone could publish them elsewhere online from their own records, without permission
Sartre Placebo: i don´t have the philclass today so i can multitask around here a little :)
Wol Euler: :)
Qt Core: went to the dream workshop
Agatha Macbeth: Multitasking is good if you can do it [grin]
Sartre Placebo: i can´t but it helps not to get stuck in topics
Sartre Placebo: i only should go to 7 am sessions anymore
Sartre Placebo: shoulnd´tn
Wol Euler: :)
Calvino Rabeni: The odd thing is, I haven't heard people express, what effect logging and publishing to the world, has on their own expression and experience
Sartre Placebo: i am too tired and not present at all by then
Wol Euler: hello darren
Sartre Placebo: hey darren
Darren Islar: hi everyone
Sartre Placebo: no dream workshop today darren ?
Agatha Macbeth: Hi Darren
Qt Core: i usually remember we log ourselves after the session in which i said something very silly ;-)
Calvino Rabeni: hehe
Agatha Macbeth: Ha ha QT
Darren Islar: I don't know
Qt Core: hi Darren
Darren Islar: but lost my interest a bit
Agatha Macbeth: I think we all do that
Sartre Placebo: ok
Sartre Placebo: it´s happening, i just wanted to remind you
Darren Islar: thanks

I notice that everyone is unusually congregated on one side of the fountain...

Agatha Macbeth: This must be the deep end of the pool...
Wol Euler grins
Darren Islar: :)
Calvino Rabeni: No, that's over there :)
Agatha Macbeth looks for the diving board
Darren Islar: we are trying to give it more balance
Agatha Macbeth: Looks like we failed :))
Wol Euler: at least we're symmetrical again
Agatha Macbeth: Kinda
Wol Euler: absolutely.
Wol Euler: mirror symmetry through the brown cushion between / behind us
Darren Islar: yes
Agatha Macbeth: Ah, but four blues and two reds
Wol Euler: ah
Wol Euler: well, that is Storm's doing.
Agatha Macbeth: (Colours count)
Wol Euler: we'd all have to shift along three places to solve that too

--BELL--

Agatha Macbeth looks round to see if anyone is moving
Wol Euler: actually, no, it's probably not solveable with this number of people in this arrangement
Darren Islar: so, I can stay put :)
Wol Euler: indeed, please do
Calvino Rabeni: I thought World Cup would win over Logging as a topic
Calvino Rabeni: So even the World Cup has the same degree of philosophical interest as Logging, I'd say
Qt Core: never took color as a simmetry parameter, but as most knows as a male i'm almost colorblind ;-)
Wol Euler makes the sign of the cross.
Agatha Macbeth heads the cross into the net
Agatha Macbeth: :)
Wol Euler: heh
Agatha Macbeth: Jesus was not amused...
Qt Core: the day after we fot out of the world cup was a funny and angering day
Agatha Macbeth: Same here!
Qt Core: funny seeing all those people going around with a broken heart about 22 people in shorts and angering as there are much more serious things to feel like that about

(Italy had 22 players??  Offensive and Defensive unit maybe :p)

Wol Euler nods.
Agatha Macbeth: Saves them going on about your PM anyway
Qt Core: i obviously would have liked another result, but to be honest we knew since many months we would be bad (maybe not so bad)
Calvino Rabeni: Some people are interested in sports and philosophy - probably a very small population, I might guess
Agatha Macbeth: Much the same with our lot
Calvino Rabeni: since they are regarded as non-overlapping subjects
Wol Euler: wasn't Freddie Ayer a great football fan?
Agatha Macbeth: Well you often need to be philosophical where England are concerned ;-)
Wol Euler: and Albert Camus was goalkeeper for the Oran team
Agatha Macbeth: He was?
Wol Euler: mmhmm
Agatha Macbeth: Must have missed that

(Over 'ere Albert- on me 'ed san)

Wol Euler: one of my remote uncles possibly played against him
Wol Euler: we can't work it out exactly, but the dates are right
Agatha Macbeth: Ah...possibly
Calvino Rabeni: What can google turn up...Hmmm, here's an article about the World Cup in relation to the perspectve model of Ken Wilber
Calvino Rabeni: http://goal.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/0...rant-approach/
Calvino Rabeni: ... not sure I'm ready for that :)
Agatha Macbeth: This should be good
Calvino Rabeni: Cognitive dissonance :)
Qt Core: if i remember it right http://www.volleyhall.org/jvelasco.html has a degree in philosophy
Agatha Macbeth: My God
Qt Core: (a volleyball coach who won very much with italian teams and italians nationals team, both male and female)
Agatha Macbeth: I played beach volleyball in my youth, that was fun
Wol Euler: hello ara
Darren Islar: hi Ara
Qt Core: hi ara
Agatha Macbeth: Hi Arabella :)
Qt Core: i tried to play volleyball as a sport, but around here at around 14 (at the time) or you chose to be serious, a team, championship and all or no more organized sport
Wol Euler: school put me off organized sport permanently
Agatha Macbeth: Oops Ara crashed
arabella Ella: Hiya
Agatha Macbeth: Hang in there Ara :)
arabella Ella: he he

--BELL--

arabella Ella: hanging
Darren Islar: hi agian

At this point I have a somewhat embarassing confession...I totally misunderstood Darren's typo and began looking round for a noob named Agian to give him a notecard [sighs].

Agatha Macbeth: We're all over here on account of symmetry, alledgedly
Qt Core: even the blue on her back left would be good for simmetry

People now begin to indulge in the old 'PaB Cushion Hop'...

Agatha Macbeth: Ah, musical cushions
Calvino Rabeni: Now it seems, only Wol can move without breaking symmetry
arabella Ella: why is symmetry so contagious i wonder
Agatha Macbeth: If she moves without breaking wind I'll be happy ;-)
Wol Euler grins
Agatha Macbeth: Well, that's buggered it totally now...
Darren Islar: and if we hop one cushion we even have symmetry in cushions
Darren Islar: or not....
Wol Euler: no, we are symmetrical still/again
Wol Euler: mirror symmetry through me & the empty cusion
Darren Islar: in color I mean
Sartre Placebo: we praise you our wol
Agatha Macbeth: It's easier to see with a bird's-eye view (see below)
Wol Euler: yes, we could get that too! if everyone moved one cushion clockwise
Qt Core: woud we unlock a secret prize ?
Agatha Macbeth: Looks cockeyed again to me
Wol Euler: it is
Wol Euler: cal and sartre didn'T move
Wol Euler: spoilsports
Agatha Macbeth: Such is life
Wol Euler sighs
Agatha Macbeth: Anyway...
Wol Euler: as we were saying
Darren Islar: yes, what were we saying?
arabella Ella: oh I hate to spoil the symmetry but i got to go
arabella Ella: good nite
Agatha Macbeth: Yes, what were we saying?
Darren Islar: bye Ara
Agatha Macbeth: Bye Ara
Wol Euler: goodnight ara, take care
Agatha Macbeth: Something about volleyball?
Darren Islar waves
Qt Core: bye Darren
Agatha Macbeth: Sine waves

A newcomer (real this time!!!) arrives...

Darren Islar: hi Fem
Femtasia Rexen: hello , mind if I sit in
Wol Euler: hello femtasia
Wol Euler: sure, please do
Agatha Macbeth: Please do
Agatha Macbeth: Snap
Wol Euler: I'll give you a notecard, and an introduction in IM
Femtasia Rexen: oh thank you
Qt Core: hi Femtasia
Agatha Macbeth: Do you like volleyball and symmetry Femtasia?
Femtasia Rexen: ive never played volleyball i dont think
Agatha Macbeth: Shoot
Fael Innovia: meep meep! :)
Agatha Macbeth: Hi Fael :)
Darren Islar: hi Fae;
Agatha Macbeth: Meep Meep ;P :p:P :p :P
Qt Core: hi fael
Darren Islar: Fael
Wol Euler: hello fael
Sartre Placebo: hey fael
Fael Innovia: Hi Everyone :)
Qt Core: one of the few sport i ever liked, my only problem zero jump, always been to fatty for that ;-) but quite good at the other actions
Agatha Macbeth: You needed a lift up QT :)
Qt Core: maybe a lot of helium
Agatha Macbeth: That helps too
Agatha Macbeth: Oh, and a balloon

--BELL--

Agatha Macbeth: Ssssssssssh
Qt Core: or a lot of tiny one... cuter ;-)
Qt Core: i think i hitted (or missed ?) every 90 sec pause... yeah for myself
Qt Core: (sorry, btw)
Agatha Macbeth: For hitting or missing? :)
Sartre Placebo: good night everyone
Qt Core: 'night sartre
Wol Euler: ciao sartre, take care
Darren Islar: night Sartre
Agatha Macbeth: Gute Nacht Sartre :)
Qt Core: it depend on which side of the bell you are, Agatha :)
Agatha Macbeth: Hm, yes
Agatha Macbeth: This is also true
Darren Islar: adn hushing in one break and talking to another isn't doing the trcik

SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;-)

Fael Innovia: Hi Cal :)
Agatha Macbeth: Indeed
Darren Islar: wb Cal
Calvino Rabeni: ty
Agatha Macbeth: Where did you go Cal?
Calvino Rabeni: There was a router or net problem, cause SL to dump me into RL :)
Agatha Macbeth: Ouch
Wol Euler: heh
Agatha Macbeth: Not nice
Qt Core: was you agatha that named our "beloved" PM ? you may be interested in this: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/30/wo...pe/30rome.html
Agatha Macbeth: Ah :)
Qt Core: only detail missing is that Mr. B hasn't filed for compensation
Wol Euler: I wonder why, not like him to miss a chance to take a buck from somebody
Agatha Macbeth: Good old Silvio
Qt Core: don't think he has some, not even for judiciary expenses
Qt Core: and then it would be bad for his image, like striking someone on the ground
Agatha Macbeth: Fancy hitting somebody with a cathederal!
Qt Core: (publicy, that is ;-) )

--BELL--

Wol Euler: thanks for the warning, T.
Qt Core: and milan cathedral is gothic too, so quite pointy!

We get a strange message from the Lindens

Agatha Macbeth: Did everybody else see that?
Qt Core: yes
Wol Euler: mmhmm
Femtasia Rexen: yes I did
Agatha Macbeth: Erk
Calvino Rabeni: Calvino Rabeni for unknown reasons, wonders if cherries grow in Italy
Agatha Macbeth: I'm sure they do
Qt Core: yes, the season is ending these weeks
Agatha Macbeth: Cherries are nice
Qt Core: sadly they cost a lot, the better quality is around 8,5 euros / kg
Agatha Macbeth: Whoa
Qt Core: a relative come home from Vignola, the town where that quality is arvested and brought some (at a lower price) they were very big and really, really good
Calvino Rabeni: Cherries may be an antidote to a lot of the world's woes, so maybe that price is worth it
Agatha Macbeth: Big ones are always best :)
Calvino Rabeni: In english at least there is the saying "Life is a bowl of cherries" if it is going REALLY well :)
Agatha Macbeth: If it's a bowl of big cherries, I agree
Wol Euler: I thought htat was "the world is your lobster"?
Agatha Macbeth: ??
Agatha Macbeth: Oyster?
Qt Core: about cherries in italy we say one pulls another as they become tangled, you take one and another come with the first
Agatha Macbeth: Riiiight...
Calvino Rabeni: They come in 3's ?
Qt Core: then the phrase is expended to whatever is so good you can't stop
Qt Core: rarely
Calvino Rabeni: OK, I get it
Agatha Macbeth: Sounds good :)
Calvino Rabeni: It is hard to stop eating them :)
Calvino Rabeni: And the bunchiness helps that effect
Qt Core: got it
Qt Core: ;-)
Calvino Rabeni: So you can't say "I'll just have one more ..." because you get 2 or 3
Agatha Macbeth: Or 5 or 6
Wol Euler nods.
Qt Core: or all the basket
Calvino Rabeni: And then figure might as well continue the "roll"
Agatha Macbeth: Or belly-ache...
Calvino Rabeni: Germans I think, have a superstition about cherries and water
Wol Euler: o.O
Calvino Rabeni: Does it sound familiar?
Wol Euler: not drinking water after eating cherries, because htey'll expand in your stomach?
Calvino Rabeni: Yes that one
Agatha Macbeth: What about the other way round?
Calvino Rabeni: I have a German friend who as a child, made SURE to test that hypothesis
Wol Euler: :)
Calvino Rabeni: which led to a life of scepticism about folk wisdom, unfortunately
Qt Core: we have something like that about milk and water
Femtasia Rexen: excuse me.. I have to go now, hope to see you all soon...
Femtasia Rexen: bye for now
Agatha Macbeth: Bye Fem
Qt Core: bye Femtasia
Wol Euler: bye femtasia, take care
Calvino Rabeni: :)Femtasia
Fael Innovia: Bye Fem :)
Qt Core: have fun
Darren Islar: bye Fem
Qt Core: one of my favorite sayings about food/fruit is about the watermelon
Agatha Macbeth: ?
Wol Euler: ?
Agatha Macbeth: (Again)

--BELL--

Qt Core: it is in milanese dialect: "se magna, se bev e se laba la facia) it say that, with it, you "eat, drink and wash your face"
Qt Core: laba=lava
Wol Euler: heheheh
Agatha Macbeth: I see
Agatha Macbeth: Actually, I quite like melon
Agatha Macbeth: I like most fruits
Qt Core: i only dislike ananas quite a lot
Fael Innovia smiles.
Calvino Rabeni: Personally, I like nuts better than fruits
Agatha Macbeth: Ah, I like bananas
Fael Innovia: Oh, I like ananas
Agatha Macbeth: I like both
Agatha Macbeth: To be honest I like them together as well
Qt Core: most peoples like ananas, so it is almost everywhere ;-)
Fael Innovia: ... oh that's a funny typo :D it registered to me as pineapple (ananas is Finnish for pineapple)
Qt Core: yes, forgot to translatte, pineapple
Agatha Macbeth: Pineapple is nice, but *very* acidic
Agatha Macbeth: I burns my mouth if I eat one
Fael Innovia: you're finnish, Qt?
Calvino Rabeni: Same with me Aga
Qt Core: not... yet
Wol Euler: my dears, I must leave, I'm falling asleep at my desk.
Agatha Macbeth: Bye Wol
Wol Euler: goodnight all, take care, be happy.
Fael Innovia: Good night Wol :)
Wol Euler: eat lots of fruit.
Qt Core: it temps go higher and higher as they are gpoing i may come there ;-)
Agatha Macbeth: Truly
Calvino Rabeni: Bye Wol
Fael Innovia smiles.
Qt Core: 'night wol
Calvino Rabeni: Calvino Rabeni wonders if Wol goes straight from Desk to Bed

(Her desk probably IS her bed :-DDDD)

Agatha Macbeth: What's the temperature in Finland then Fael?
Fael Innovia: right now, 15C
Agatha Macbeth: Wow, cool (literally)
Fael Innovia: was 23C in shadow earlier today when I checked
Agatha Macbeth: It's been almost 30C here
Agatha Macbeth: Don't like it
Qt Core: 25 now and 32 in the day
Agatha Macbeth: I wish it would rain

(Cue a song by The Who...)

Qt Core: and a lot of humidity
Qt Core: higher temps for tomorrow the meteo said...
Agatha Macbeth: Oh, not here, please
Agatha Macbeth: I'll pass out
Agatha Macbeth: I think i will say goodnight all. Have fun
Qt Core: 'night Agatha
Darren Islar: nite Agatha
Qt Core: seeing the watch going to sleep may be a wise move :-)
Qt Core: 'night all, have fun
Fael Innovia: Sleep well Qt :)
Darren Islar: nite QT
Calvino Rabeni: Bye!

--BELL--

Fael Innovia: please stand up first :D
Fael Innovia: meep meep! :)
Calvino Rabeni: Calvino Rabeni likes it
Calvino Rabeni: This would be a good time to get on my motorcycle and go down to the roadside cherry stand :)
Fael Innovia: meep meep! :)
Darren Islar: tutututuut
Darren Islar: that's real Dutch :)))
Fael Innovia: dutch?
Fael Innovia: meep meep?
Darren Islar: tutututuu
Darren Islar: and only known to oldies like me
Fael Innovia smiles.
Darren Islar: need to go, the clock stroke twelve
Darren Islar: bedtime for me
Fael Innovia: Have fun Darren :)
Fael Innovia: Ah, Sleep well :)
Calvino Rabeni: Bye !
Darren Islar: thank Fael
Darren Islar: bye Cal, Fael :)
Fael Innovia waves happily.
Darren Islar: can't get home