2013.01.02 19:00 - Dreaming of Nothingness

The Guardian for this meeting was stevenaia Michinaga. The comments are by stevenaia Michinaga.

Catrinamonblue Resident, Santoshima Resident, druth Vlodovic, Lucinda Lavender, Wol Euler, Paradise Tennant, Ewan Bonham and Lila Darkmatter joined in tonight

stevenaia Michinaga: waves
stevenaia Michinaga: feeling better today?
Catrinamonblue Resident: hi yes I am :) thanks
stevenaia Michinaga: smiles
stevenaia Michinaga: greetings normal sized Druth
stevenaia Michinaga: big lag tonight
druth Vlodovic: evening smaller steve :)n".
stevenaia Michinaga: nice to see this place w/o billboards
Santoshima Resident: yes
stevenaia Michinaga: Hi San
stevenaia Michinaga: good call Druth
druth Vlodovic: I was waiting to be beaten with sticks for suggesting it
druth Vlodovic: hi san
Catrinamonblue Resident: Hi San, Druth :)
Santoshima Resident: suggesting removal of the billboards?
stevenaia Michinaga: you know what they say, "names will never hurt you"
Santoshima Resident: { greetings }
stevenaia Michinaga: neither will verbal sticks
stevenaia Michinaga: yes, , San
druth Vlodovic: I'm thinking my next task is to design a fun gallery, not sure my building is up to the task
stevenaia Michinaga: how about a slide show or video archade in the Kira Cafe
stevenaia Michinaga: arcade, it's enclosed and has corners
druth Vlodovic: I was thinking more a sort of open building,so people could put up instruments and such as they liked
druth Vlodovic: have to enforce a prim limit, but that would come
stevenaia Michinaga: I once frequested a Sim that was so successbull one of the building oprovided space for an archive, eventually the owner pulled the plug on the entire sim when things got out of hand
druth Vlodovic: oh?
stevenaia Michinaga: nods, met many sl friends there, then poof
stevenaia Michinaga: a victim of it's own success and the owners impatience
stevenaia Michinaga: "nothingness" is much easy in a virtual world, just hit the delete key
stevenaia Michinaga: and nothing fills the void
druth Vlodovic: escapability allows much in SL that we would be horrified by in RL
druth Vlodovic: rules are made by griefers lol
stevenaia Michinaga: it can also make much good vanish as well

--BELL--

Santoshima Resident: help!! keyboard locked up
druth Vlodovic: got you :)
stevenaia Michinaga: well, you typed that :)
stevenaia Michinaga: I supposed a keybord stopping also can result in nothingness, at least in SL
druth Vlodovic: only on our end, I'm sure there was plenty at san's end
druth Vlodovic: might still be, she hasn't told us what she was blockedfromtyping
Santoshima Resident: typing that frees up my keybaord
Santoshima Resident: if the sim is empty and locked, the text is more cussing
Santoshima Resident: usually works
druth Vlodovic: lol
druth Vlodovic: I find the backspace usually helps prevent "accidents"
druth Vlodovic: "nothing" seemed like such a rich topic when zon was here, now i can't think of anything to say about it
stevenaia Michinaga: smiles, some can focus more deeply than others at times
druth Vlodovic: how about nothing as space in which things can happen
stevenaia Michinaga: hi Paradise
druth Vlodovic: hey para
druth Vlodovic: I often find that too much something means nothing gets done
Paradise Tennant: hiya stev .. druth .. san .. cat :)) happy new year :)
stevenaia Michinaga: I see Nothingness as the playing fiend for creativity
Catrinamonblue Resident: Hi Para
stevenaia Michinaga: field
Santoshima Resident: heeelppp!!! keyboard locking up again !!!!
Santoshima Resident: hi paradise
stevenaia Michinaga: sotty, cat is walking on keboard tonight
stevenaia Michinaga: sorry
Paradise Tennant: smiles blinking not sure what to hand you for a locked up keyboard .. de icer ?
Santoshima Resident: need a smaller inventory
Santoshima Resident: i suspect
Paradise Tennant: ahh
Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
stevenaia Michinaga: sometimes, san, after my computer goes to sleep, everything wakes up except the keyboard, so I ahve a spare to plug in
druth Vlodovic: turn it upside down and shake,let all the crumbs fall out
Paradise Tennant: empty cache ?
Paradise Tennant: lol druth those darn crumbs
stevenaia Michinaga: which letter don;t work?
Santoshima Resident: the whole thing locks
stevenaia Michinaga: guess you can;t tell us , can you
Santoshima Resident: no worries, allows time to contemplate responses to things written
Santoshima Resident: it's the viewer that locks
stevenaia Michinaga: could be lag, lots of that going around

stevenaia Michinaga: hi Luci
Paradise Tennant: hiya luci
Santoshima Resident: ultra lag
Catrinamonblue Resident: Hi Luci :)
Santoshima Resident: hey luci
Lucinda Lavender: yessss
druth Vlodovic: hi luci
Lucinda Lavender: hi all

Santoshima Resident: do we have dream circle tomorrow?
Lucinda Lavender: just posted an email about dream circle...better late than never
Lucinda Lavender: yes
Santoshima Resident: :)
Lucinda Lavender: 5:30 pm sl time if it is ok:)
Paradise Tennant: smiles and nods
Santoshima Resident: sure
Lucinda Lavender: great
stevenaia Michinaga: thanks Luci, was reading the announcement
Wol Euler: evening all!
Paradise Tennant: hiya wol we were just talking about the dream circle tomorrow night at 5.30 sl time :)
stevenaia Michinaga: tell me about the invisible stone

stevenaia Michinaga: HI Wol
Santoshima Resident: hiya wol
Catrinamonblue Resident: Hi Wol :)

--BELL--

druth Vlodovic: hoy wol
Lucinda Lavender: well in real life dream circle we use a piece of aquamarine that moves around the circle as we take our tun
Lucinda Lavender: turn
Lucinda Lavender: sorry bell
Lucinda Lavender: after one is done speaking they pas a virtual one here in sl
Lucinda Lavender: verbally I guess you would say
Lucinda Lavender: it is a way to take it slowly and not ask questions acros the circle
Paradise Tennant: paces the discussion
Lucinda Lavender: you know you do not have to speak till it comes to you
stevenaia Michinaga: a listening circle
Lucinda Lavender: hoping I have not interrupted a discussion
druth Vlodovic: creates space, time
Lucinda Lavender: kind of like a slow stirring of attention
stevenaia Michinaga: invisible stone related to the topic of nothingness
stevenaia Michinaga: being handed nothing
stevenaia Michinaga: :)
Lucinda Lavender: :))
Lucinda Lavender: nodding
stevenaia Michinaga: nods, druth, nothingness creates :)
Wol Euler smiles.
stevenaia Michinaga: the one thing that doesn;t distract from creativity
druth Vlodovic: "full of sound and fury, signifying nothing"
Lucinda Lavender: listening inside before one speaks" what does the image from the dream seem to suggest too
stevenaia Michinaga: like listening to someone's poetry, open to interpretation
Catrinamonblue Resident: What is the quote from Druth?
Paradise Tennant: sharing .. part of our own mystery really .. always wonder where dreams come from
druth Vlodovic: shakespeare somewhere, I was just thinking in terms of the very loud and busy beinf valued less than the quiet
Santoshima Resident: macbeth
Santoshima Resident: spaketh
Santoshima Resident: is that a word?
Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
druth Vlodovic: the mind being quiet enough to hear itself maybe
Lucinda Lavender: nodding
Paradise Tennant: smiles ..
Paradise Tennant: yes ..
Paradise Tennant: find them so fantastic sometimes .. hard to believe they are just internal
Paradise Tennant: like maybe there is group dream thing going on :)
stevenaia Michinaga: what, Paradise?

Wol Euler: hello lila, happy new year :)
Santoshima Resident: greetings Lila :)
Catrinamonblue Resident: Hi Lila
druth Vlodovic: hey lila
Lila Darkmatter: Hello Wol, Everyone :) thanks and happy new year
Lucinda Lavender: hi Lila...
Paradise Tennant: hiya lila happy new year :))
stevenaia Michinaga: Happy New Year Lila
Lila Darkmatter: please don't let me interrupt... will listen

druth Vlodovic: dreams and nothingness
Wol Euler wonders what a dream of Nothing would look like
Paradise Tennant: just noticed the quote in your profile lila it is wonderful and suits this moment so well
Paradise Tennant: ...Greet Yourself In your thousand other forms As you mount the hidden tide and travel Back home. ... All the hemispheres in heaven Are sitting around a fire Chatting... While stitching themselves together Into the Great Circle inside of You (Hafiz)
Lila Darkmatter: thank you... feels like what we are doing here
Paradise Tennant: yes and maybe what dreams are all about too

--BELL--

Lucinda Lavender: Yesterday I was reading from a book by Waggoner about Lucid Dreaming his experience of dream on beyone things
Lucinda Lavender: into a light of awareness...

Lila Darkmatter: Hello Ewan :)
Wol Euler: hello ewan
Catrinamonblue Resident: Hi Ewan :)
Paradise Tennant: hiya ewan happy new year :)
stevenaia Michinaga: Happy New Year Ewan
Santoshima Resident: hello Ewan
druth Vlodovic: hey ewan
Ewan Bonham: Hello San

Paradise Tennant: we were just talking of dreams and where they come from :)
Ewan Bonham: Thank you... listening..
Lucinda Lavender: Lately I have been thinking about how dreams reflect mind and it can include more than my own mind. But if one has practice of moving on beyond into awareness...it might reflect that as well...
stevenaia Michinaga: [19:43] Wol Euler wonders what a dream of Nothing would look like... Still thinking, Wol :)
Ewan Bonham: Are you saying, that two or more persons can share a dream?
Lucinda Lavender: I try not to judge any dreams....I have heard of that yes Ewan.
druth Vlodovic: dreams of nothingness would seem to be over soon
Wol Euler: perhaps that always happens, but we have no way of knowing who that other person(s) was, so will never be able to compare notes :)
Paradise Tennant: wild .. tht thought you could be lucidly dreaming with someone else you know who is also lucidly dreaming in your dream
druth Vlodovic: perhapsthat is what you are doing when you seem to wake up as soon as you lie down,several hours later
Lucinda Lavender: I have heard people saying they slep next to some one they love and had it happen
stevenaia Michinaga: 32 years later.... not for some :)
Wol Euler: awwwww :)
Ewan Bonham: But... why not...if dreams are energy...
Lila Darkmatter: seems reasonable... after all people pick up on similar themes and thoughts in waking life
Paradise Tennant: some dream journalers have experienced it too . with people they know :)) they try to do it .. like knocking on the door of someone mind and asking if they can come out to play
stevenaia Michinaga: :)
Ewan Bonham: Yes... a form of communication...
Paradise Tennant: maybe you and your spouse dream together all the time stev ..just not lucidly
stevenaia Michinaga: have you ever seen fright in SL ... :)
Lila Darkmatter: perhaps being around lucid people inspires one toward / allows for further lucidty :)
Ewan Bonham: Perhapsa tuning into each other?
Lucinda Lavender: caring about each other....
Paradise Tennant: always think long coupledom .. joins the brains :)) you end up with a shared brain :)
Paradise Tennant: smiles
Ewan Bonham: I think also a shared heart..
Paradise Tennant: smiles
Paradise Tennant: best thinking we do is with our hearts
Lucinda Lavender: today I saw a post about mothers sharing celss of their children
Lucinda Lavender: cells
Lucinda Lavender: and it was from Scientific American
Lucinda Lavender: made me wonder if it helps there be a connection
Ewan Bonham: I believe in non-physical energy..
Ewan Bonham: Through focus and intent..
Catrinamonblue Resident: I wish :) my kids don't listen much to me anymore
Ewan Bonham: What might happen if two people meditated together... nd synchronously..
Catrinamonblue Resident: teenagers have their own opinion on life
Lucinda Lavender: nodding
Ewan Bonham: And then focused an intent to dream together..
Paradise Tennant: smiles that is what they do focus their intent to dream together lucidly

druth Vlodovic: ah, g2g, have fun guys
stevenaia Michinaga: bye Druth
Wol Euler: bye druth, take care
Lucinda Lavender: bye druth:)
Catrinamonblue Resident: bye Druth :)
Paradise Tennant: nite nite druth sweet dreams
Lila Darkmatter: night Druth
Ewan Bonham: bye Druth..
Santoshima Resident: so long, druth
Catrinamonblue Resident: going as well night guys :)
Paradise Tennant: nite nite cat sweet dreams

Lila Darkmatter: am learning that sometimes the pushing away of teens is due to their deep love and need

stevenaia Michinaga: night Cat
Ewan Bonham: Nite Catrina
Lila Darkmatter: night Catrina
Lucinda Lavender: NIght Catrina
Santoshima Resident: 'night cat, gtsy
Paradise Tennant: smiles at lila
Wol Euler: goodnight, cat, take care
Lucinda Lavender: Lila...I think so...

--BELL--

Paradise Tennant: smiles .. getting noddy .. time to trundle off to bed :)) namaste my friends may you dream aware :) and mightily !
Lila Darkmatter: Namaste'
Wol Euler: goodnight paradise, sleep well
stevenaia Michinaga: night Para
Lucinda Lavender: :) sweet dreams Para
Lila Darkmatter will say goodnight too
stevenaia Michinaga: good dreams to you and you
Santoshima Resident: bye Paradise ~
Wol Euler: goodnight lila, take care
Lucinda Lavender: Luci should go soon to
Wol Euler: and me :)
Santoshima Resident: really!
Santoshima Resident: it's great
stevenaia Michinaga: smiles, night all
Wol Euler: goodnight all, be happy and safe
Lila Darkmatter: Night Wol
Santoshima Resident: ( oops, delete my last two lines, wrong window
Santoshima Resident: night wol
Lucinda Lavender: Night wol
stevenaia Michinaga: night San, Ewan
Lucinda Lavender: Lila
Lila Darkmatter: Night Stevenaia
stevenaia Michinaga: Wol
Lila Darkmatter: Everyone
stevenaia Michinaga: Luci
Santoshima Resident: night all     

Ewan Bonham: Night san
Santoshima Resident: { gawd this is bringing back the waltons something fierce
Lucinda Lavender: :))
Lucinda Lavender: how so?
Santoshima Resident: { i am still here
Lucinda Lavender: everybody left together?
Santoshima Resident: each episode, from what i vaguely remember, ended with everyone saying goodnight to each other by name
Lucinda Lavender: :))
Santoshima Resident: but it has been a while, i might have dreamed it
Lucinda Lavender: memories hang in there
Lucinda Lavender: old mind perhaps
Santoshima Resident: especially passive veiwing of tv programs
Lucinda Lavender: and the nothingness...or stillness makes way for the new
Lucinda Lavender: I suppose I should have put a link to you dwelling on my email
Lucinda Lavender: but the old link worked for me
Lucinda Lavender: I stopped by to see if it would
Santoshima Resident: if it worked for you it will work for others
Lucinda Lavender: ok
Santoshima Resident: did it land you on the porch, or inside?
Santoshima Resident: perfer the porch
Lucinda Lavender: I landed on the porch
Santoshima Resident: as i startel when people just appear in front of me
Santoshima Resident: perfect
Santoshima Resident: will you be coming to the dream circle Ewan?
Lucinda Lavender: now how do I put something likea link from this world into an email in RL
Ewan Bonham: Oh, when is the Dream circle?
Lucinda Lavender: tomorrow at 5:30 pm SL
Santoshima Resident: tomorrow at 5:30 slt
Santoshima Resident: i'll give you a LM. a sec
Ewan Bonham: Oh, it is not here?
Lucinda Lavender: no...not recorded
Santoshima Resident: it's at my treehouse
Santoshima Resident: will give you the LM too Luci
Lucinda Lavender: ok
Lucinda Lavender: thank you
Ewan Bonham: Thank you for the invite..
Lucinda Lavender: should I drag it to my desktop?
Ewan Bonham: That should work for me..
Santoshima Resident: see you then :)
Ewan Bonham: Bye for now... night..
Santoshima Resident: bye Ewan, take care
Lucinda Lavender: sent you my note card
Ewan Bonham: Thank ou..
Lucinda Lavender: bye for now
Lucinda Lavender: you are welcome

Ewan Bonham: Bye...:)