2013.09.10 19:00 - dropping goes here

    The Guardian for this meeting was Eos Amaterasu. The comments are by Eos Amaterasu. Korel Laloix and stevenaia Michinaga shared their presence.  

    (autorecorder seems to have missed some lines...)

     

    Eos Amaterasu: 'evening, Korel!
    Korel Laloix: Heya... smiles
    Korel Laloix: What you up to today Eos?
    Eos Amaterasu: Oh, day at work, at walk, at dinner, late evening....
    Eos Amaterasu: How has your day been?

    Eos Amaterasu: this week's theme is "dropping"
    Eos Amaterasu: or, "dropping dropping"
    Korel Laloix: Was a strange day realy.
    Eos Amaterasu: hmm.... (listens)
    Korel Laloix: Still have not figured out the dropping thing I am sad to say.. another concept that I don't think I have the hange of here.
    Korel Laloix: Just strange interactions and cicumstances.. an unsetteling day in a lot of ways.. not in a bad way.. but in a shaking things up way though.
    Eos Amaterasu: hmm.... not knowing who you are?
    Korel Laloix: Or like being in a world where suddenl no one knows who you are.
    Eos Amaterasu: strange days
    Eos Amaterasu: maybe that's like being suddenly dropped :-)
    Korel Laloix: Maybe I am just being more sensitive or demanding.
    Korel Laloix: Could be.. maybe I have not been annoying enough to be remembered recently.. grins

    Eos Amaterasu: actually feels to me you have a sense of big world
    Eos Amaterasu: within which things happen
    Eos Amaterasu: noticing is like a playful game
    Korel Laloix: That is true.. smiles
    Korel Laloix: Sometimes I think a little bit bigger than the here and now.. but that is not always the way to do things.
    Eos Amaterasu: sometimes it's just the detail in front of you
    Eos Amaterasu: the world is big enough to fit in an acorn :-)


    --BELL--


    Korel Laloix: Or so they say... smiles
    Korel Laloix: Take care.. back to the books... thanks for the chat.
    Eos Amaterasu: ciao Korel ...
    Korel Laloix: ciao bello
    Eos Amaterasu: ciao bella

     

    Eos Amaterasu: laughing is a form of dropping
    Eos Amaterasu: celebrating the noticing of something, from a letting go of it
    Eos Amaterasu: appreciating
    Eos Amaterasu: a dropping that gives rise to expression
    Eos Amaterasu: that is dropping dropping


    Eos Amaterasu: wow!
    Eos Amaterasu: hi stevenaia
    stevenaia Michinaga: greetings :)
    Eos Amaterasu: beautiful outfit!

    2013-09-11_stevenaia_eos.png

    stevenaia Michinaga: thank you, credit goes to my personal shopper
    Eos Amaterasu: who would that be?
    stevenaia Michinaga: Paradise, she excels at shopping
    stevenaia Michinaga: I on the other hand am not a clothes shopping fan
    Eos Amaterasu: this is why opposites complement
    stevenaia Michinaga: nods, she found this free sim.. you can even enhance your butt, they have everything
    Eos Amaterasu: "shop till you drop" :-)
    stevenaia Michinaga: nods acres of free everything
    stevenaia Michinaga: speaking of dropping...


    --BELL--


    stevenaia Michinaga: how has dropping dropping been going for you
    Eos Amaterasu: fun games, cat and mouse
    stevenaia Michinaga: :)
    Eos Amaterasu: first there is dropping
    Eos Amaterasu: let go
    stevenaia Michinaga: nods
    Eos Amaterasu: then there is the dropping of falling
    Eos Amaterasu: drop that
    Eos Amaterasu: so suspended
    Eos Amaterasu: :-)
    Eos Amaterasu: ha hah
    stevenaia Michinaga: good, done then :)

    Eos Amaterasu: there's also the kind of intentionality aspect of it
    Eos Amaterasu: striving to drop
    stevenaia Michinaga: is that dropping or a path to dropping
    stevenaia Michinaga: pre drop
    Eos Amaterasu: dropping the path, I suppose

    Eos Amaterasu: it's somehow a bit like this story....
    Eos Amaterasu: a question and answer....
    Eos Amaterasu: Q: what is the purpose of meditation?
    stevenaia Michinaga: watching and watched
    Eos Amaterasu: A: meditation is dealing with purpose.

    stevenaia Michinaga: you had that question planned, didn't you
    stevenaia Michinaga: I was dancing around this for a few sessions and feel droping droping is see yourself drop , like an observation of sorts
    Eos Amaterasu: hmm, yes, nice
    stevenaia Michinaga: watch the drop
    stevenaia Michinaga: (ing)
    Eos Amaterasu: there's a humorous play aspect to it
    stevenaia Michinaga: dropping, once removed
    Eos Amaterasu: letting be _and_ letting go
    Eos Amaterasu: which is same as "watch the hold"
    stevenaia Michinaga: what is watch the hold, not letting go?
    Eos Amaterasu: watch the hold, from a slight distance, without letting go of the hold
    Eos Amaterasu: actually, without doing anything
    Eos Amaterasu: maybe dropping is just dropping your wiggling your lenses
    stevenaia Michinaga: " wiggling your lenses"?
    Eos Amaterasu: stirring the waters
    Eos Amaterasu: but even that is not the whole truth
    stevenaia Michinaga: is anything?
    Eos Amaterasu: it's hard to tell the truth without being playful
    stevenaia Michinaga: yes
    Eos Amaterasu: I came across a great quote the other day.... here's a part of it:
    Eos Amaterasu: "understand the true nature without stopping what arises in the mind"
    Eos Amaterasu: Let it be, in its own clarity.....
    Eos Amaterasu: the "without stopping what arises in the mind" is the dropping dropping part

    Eos Amaterasu: your headdress arises in the mind
    Eos Amaterasu: makes you look like a hierophant
    stevenaia Michinaga: yes, it is seeing


    --BELL--


    Eos Amaterasu: (whatever that is :-)
    stevenaia Michinaga: (looking it up)..

    A hierophant is a person who brings religious congregants into the presence of that which is deemed holy. The word comes from Ancient Greece, where it was constructed from the combination of ta hiera, "the holy," and phainein, "to show." In Attica it was the title of the chief priest at the Eleusinian Mysteries. A hierophant is an interpreter of sacred mysteries and arcane principles.


    Eos Amaterasu: Wow!
    Eos Amaterasu: So there you go, stevenaia!
    Eos Amaterasu: I love the word "phainein"
    Eos Amaterasu: it's "to shine through"
    Eos Amaterasu: phenomena comes from that
    stevenaia Michinaga: no wiki page for that one
    Eos Amaterasu: phainesthai: to appear
    Eos Amaterasu: appearance and luminosity entwined

    stevenaia Michinaga: strange how some topics here, reach deeper into ones interest than others, like this one, :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: each day is like finding a different place to see what we are talking about
    Eos Amaterasu: pavilion journeys
    stevenaia Michinaga: yes, some go farther than others
    Eos Amaterasu: does that circulate through your RL also?
    stevenaia Michinaga: hmmm, probably at a very low level, I seem more activated this week
    stevenaia Michinaga: more reflective, could be this dress :)
    Eos Amaterasu: maybe there's more activation within the dropping
    stevenaia Michinaga: it makes more room for other thing to arise
    Eos Amaterasu: dropping selfies, see more world
    stevenaia Michinaga: φαίνω
    stevenaia Michinaga: phainein in greek :)
    Eos Amaterasu: phaine?
    Eos Amaterasu: love finding the roots of words.... words are like plants, too
    stevenaia Michinaga: bedtime


    --BELL--


    stevenaia Michinaga: night Eos
    Eos Amaterasu: good night, stevenaia
    Eos Amaterasu: ciao!

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