2014.02.21 13:00 - Falcon Sighting

The Guardian for this meeting was Yaku. The comments are by No Self.

Yakuzza Lethecus: hey bruce
Bruce Mowbray: Heya, Yalu!
Yakuzza Lethecus: i hope you got a good day
Bruce Mowbray: Yaku, sry.
Bruce Mowbray: It was a good day, thank you.
Bruce Mowbray: How about for you?
Yakuzza Lethecus: middling
Yakuzza Lethecus: :)
Bruce Mowbray: :)
Bruce Mowbray: Heya, Wol!
Wol Euler: hello yaku, bruce
Wol Euler: and blueblub
Yakuzza Lethecus: it´s mostly nothing really unexpected, middling i guess is the usual state for me
Yakuzza Lethecus: hey wol
Bruce Mowbray: Blue Blub is grateful to Wol for having found his son, McBlubson.
Wol Euler smiles modestly.
Bruce Mowbray: and also for his typist rescuing McBlubson from the rafters.
Wol Euler: glad to be of service, always
Bruce Mowbray: THANKS, Wol!
Bruce Mowbray goes to aquarium to find McBlubson - - or to find that he's swum away again.
Wol Euler smiles.
Bruce Mowbray: Curious to find a fish that can swim out of its own aquarium, don't you think?
Wol Euler: I had some fish that did so, sad to say
Wol Euler: jumped out, anyway
Bruce Mowbray: uh oh!
Bruce Mowbray: Yikes!
Wol Euler: yeah, it was suboptimal.

Yakuzza Lethecus: good evening philns
Bruce Mowbray: Welcome, Phil!
Wol Euler: hello phil, nice to see you again
PhilNS Schumann: evening to you Wol, Bruce, Yaku
Yakuzza Lethecus: hey bleu
Bruce Mowbray: Heya, Bleu!
PhilNS Schumann: and bleu
Yakuzza Lethecus: phil, so you know had an introduction to the group ?
Bleu Oleander: hiya :)
Wol Euler: hello bleu
Wol Euler: if you ever had a mermaid avatar, we could call you the Bleu Lagoon :)
Bleu Oleander: nice!
Wol Euler smiles.
Bruce Mowbray: Phil has been here a few times before, I think.
Wol Euler nods.
Bruce Mowbray: Welcome back, Phil!
PhilNS Schumann: I have. I know and agree to everything .. kind of
Bruce Mowbray: (as has San!)
Yakuzza Lethecus: hey san
Wol Euler: hello san
Bruce Mowbray: None of us agree to everything, Phil!
Santoshima Resident: hllo
Bruce Mowbray: (and that will probably be part of our discussion tomorrow at this same hour.)
Bleu Oleander: hi san
Bruce Mowbray: (A theme session on Pabiology.)
Santoshima Resident: ok, ty
Bruce Mowbray: Welcome, San-ji!
Santoshima Resident: ty, bruce-ji
Bruce Mowbray: :)
Bruce Mowbray: Well met!

Bruce Mowbray: So, anyone slain any dragons recently?
Wol Euler: alas, no
Wol Euler: the dragons are beating my butt at work
Bruce Mowbray: Oh dear.
Bruce Mowbray: Yikes!
Wol Euler: mostly my own fault, sad to say
Santoshima Resident: how so?
Bruce Mowbray ponders, "We make our own worlds...."
Bruce Mowbray: and also listens.
Wol Euler: making silly mistakes, and incomplete drawings
Wol Euler: specifically: not making explicit two tricky details
Bleu Oleander: dragons are in the details :)
Bruce Mowbray: ;-)
Wol Euler: there was enough information in the entire set of drawings to make both cases clear, but there was no single place where all the information was collected
Wol Euler: so they both went wrong
Bruce Mowbray: and so is the wonder: in the details.
Santoshima Resident: aww

--BELL--

Wol Euler: fortunately there were no serious consequences, the garage will be 6cm narrower
Wol Euler: but it was a somewhat humiliating
Santoshima Resident: hmm
Wol Euler: I also learned that I need to be much harsher with our engineers, her drawings were no better.
Bruce Mowbray: an exercise in staff-to-staff communication?
Santoshima Resident: hoping someone you work with had the grace to offer a kind word of support
Wol Euler: internal communication was lacking, yes
Wol Euler: but the point of the drawings is to communicate outwards, and they failed at that
Santoshima Resident: a lesson
Wol Euler: indeed
Yakuzza Lethecus: do you kind of proofread each others drawings ?
Wol Euler: yes :)
Wol Euler: but still things get past
Wol Euler: and passed

Bruce Mowbray ponders communicating inwards and outwards....

Wol Euler: out of the office, to builders
Bruce Mowbray: Yes, of course.
Bruce Mowbray: Most important for architects to be able to do that.
Santoshima Resident: mistakes are a given. operator error
Wol Euler: it revealed actually that boss doesn't pay attention to things that he doesn't immediately understand
Bruce Mowbray: But are builders forgiving of such "errors"?
Wol Euler: because I *know* that we talked about one of these points, and he suggested the change that I implemented, which then caused the problem
Bruce Mowbray: Ahhhh!
Yakuzza Lethecus: bleu: how is your spirit of the senses going, are you at some point planing on returning salons to sl ?
Wol Euler: but when we spoke about it, he had no recollection of that meeting and claimed never to have noticed the detail point either
Wol Euler listens.

Bruce Mowbray: Isn't that called "The Peter Principle"? -- That people rise in the hierarchy until they reach a level of IN-competence, and then remain there?
Bleu Oleander: thanks for asking Yaku!
Bleu Oleander: no plans atm to return the salons to sl
Bleu Oleander: but very busy in rl
Santoshima Resident: sorry that happened, Wol ...
Wol Euler: thank you :)
Bruce Mowbray: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Principle

Wol Euler: we survived, but one naturally wonders how many other dogs are buried there (as the germans say)
Bruce Mowbray: a learning experience, it seems.
Wol Euler nods.
Yakuzza Lethecus: bleu: what kind of salons are you doing recently in rl ?
Bleu Oleander: we just finished a 4 part series on the universe
Santoshima Resident: yes, bridges collapsing, roofs caving in ... good to consider implication of errors and ensure double double checking, a constant through any projects (i'd imagine)
Bleu Oleander: with theoretical physicist Lawrence Krauss
Bleu Oleander: it was videoed for Japanese public television
Bruce Mowbray: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawrence_M._Krauss
Wol Euler: cool
Bruce Mowbray: He looks like a man I'd like to know as a friend!
Bleu Oleander: based on his book, "fear of Physics"
Bleu Oleander: was quite a workout!
Bruce Mowbray: :)
Bruce Mowbray: ahhhh! This is the dark energy dude!
Bleu Oleander: :)
Wol Euler smiles.
Bruce Mowbray: (at Arizona State, too!)
Bleu Oleander: yes
Bruce Mowbray: :)

Bruce Mowbray: Kraus spoke at this conference:
Bruce Mowbray: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beyond_...n_and_Survival
Bruce Mowbray: I would love to have attended that one.
Bruce Mowbray: Steven Weinbereg, Sam Harris, Richard Dawkins were all speakers there.

Bleu Oleander: he directs the Origins Institute at ASU http://origins.asu.edu/
Bruce Mowbray: hmmm. thanks, Bleu.
Yakuzza Lethecus: also the swedish televison had a discussion with him about one of his recent books last year

--BELL--

Bruce Mowbray: (My typist had never heard of him before, so this is a new lead!)
Bleu Oleander: great one coming up soon https://origins.asu.edu/events/great...ity-and-future

Bleu Oleander feels very fortunate to know some of these people and attend these great events!
Wol Euler nods.
Santoshima Resident: :)
Bruce Mowbray: amazing that you can do so, Bleu!
Bleu Oleander: yes!

Bruce Mowbray: I am currently reading "Sex and War" -- which seems on this same theme.
PhilNS Schumann: hm indeed. this Lawrence Krauss, his work .. and his style sound very interesting.
Bruce Mowbray: Transcending Our Origins: Violence

Bruce Mowbray: Heya, aggers!
Yakuzza Lethecus: hey aga
Bleu Oleander: yes very interesting indeed!
Bleu Oleander: hey Aggers
Santoshima Resident: greetings Agatha
Agatha Macbeth: Evening all

Wol Euler: lemony aggers
Wol Euler: hey, I know that outfit! hehehhe
Agatha Macbeth: Yeh
PhilNS Schumann: Ciao Aga
Bruce Mowbray: 'tis indeed, "lemony."
Agatha Macbeth: Thanks to you I finally found it again
Wol Euler smiles.
Bruce Mowbray: on perhaps "bananay."
Santoshima Resident: haute couture
Agatha Macbeth: Sounds like the capital of an african country
Bruce Mowbray: ha!
Agatha Macbeth: Glad to see the green fish came down to earth again :p
Bruce Mowbray: ? Sounds like "Cairo"
Agatha Macbeth: Joel?
Bruce Mowbray: The green fish (aka, McBlubson) is so grateful to Wol for helping get him back to his aquarium.
Wol Euler smiles.
Agatha Macbeth looks for a maltese falcon
Bruce Mowbray: It was a rough few hours, though.
Bruce Mowbray: He's swimming much closer to daddy now.

Santoshima Resident: look up, aggers ... a strange falcon like object is perched on the 2nd tier of the pavilion
Bruce Mowbray: It IS a falcon, I believe!
Agatha Macbeth: Thought that was a vulture
Wol Euler: oh that's been there for years :)
Agatha Macbeth: I know him well
Wol Euler: I remember the guy who left it
Bruce Mowbray: methinks it is very like a vulture.....
Agatha Macbeth: Who owns it?
Bruce Mowbray: ... or a weasel....
Wol Euler: backed like a whale
Agatha Macbeth: Captain Ahab?
Bruce Mowbray: very like a whale.
Bruce Mowbray: ...
Wol Euler: some guy who came here a few times looking for an argument and left disappointed
Agatha Macbeth: Oh, Sam?
Santoshima Resident: didn't find an arguement?
Wol Euler: didn't find the kind of anger and abuse he was looking for
Wol Euler: just people talking about ideas
Agatha Macbeth: Maybe he thought we are philosophers :p
Wol Euler grins.

PhilNS Schumann: odd. it's so simple to find arguments in the whole rest of the world..
PhilNS Schumann: wonder why making such an effort to find one here
Agatha Macbeth: True that
Santoshima Resident: mostly that is what can be found
Santoshima Resident: if one is looking for that

Bruce Mowbray: 340 POLONIUS By th' mass, and ’tis like a camel indeed. POLONIUS By God, it does look like a camel. HAMLET Methinks it is like a weasel. HAMLET To me it looks like a weasel. POLONIUS It is backed like a weasel. POLONIUS It does have a back like a weasel’s. HAMLET Or like a whale. HAMLET Or like a whale. POLONIUS Very like a whale.
Wol Euler: people go around looking for ways to be unhappy
Wol Euler: IMHO YMMV

Bruce Mowbray: Zen-ji!
Agatha Macbeth: I liked Ophelia better
Bruce Mowbray: Just in time!
Wol Euler noddeth to Bruce
Agatha Macbeth: Shame she couldn't swim
Santoshima Resident: hiho Zen!
Bruce Mowbray: Welcome, Zen!
Agatha Macbeth: Hi Zenny
Wol Euler: hello zen
Bleu Oleander: hiya Zen
Zen Arado: Hi all

Agatha Macbeth: Oh Susi I remember him
Agatha Macbeth: Finnish bloke
Agatha Macbeth: Actually I think it looks like a penguin
Agatha Macbeth: How's Zen?
Zen Arado: fine ty Aggers
Agatha Macbeth: Weather behaving itself up there?
Zen Arado: not bad today but cold
Agatha Macbeth: Not too bad here
Yakuzza Lethecus: zen: did you create any new songs or remixes lately ?
Wol Euler: oh, I quite forgot. I infer that the floodwaters retretated without any drastic effects?
Zen Arado: yeh just posted one today
Zen Arado: Trance thing
Wol Euler: ah!
Agatha Macbeth: Zen Canute sorted them

--BELL--

Bruce Mowbray was relieved to find [ after some research] that Wol's YMMV means "Your mileage may vary" rather than "You make me vomit."
Wol Euler raises an eyebrow.
Agatha Macbeth: I always think of YHWH
Bruce Mowbray: Whew!
Bruce Mowbray: (Unspeakable, aggers!)

Zen Arado: https://soundcloud.com/zenarado/cant-break-free
Agatha Macbeth: Yep
Agatha Macbeth: Like Hastur
Zen Arado: need some Likes :)
Zen Arado: Likes

Bruce Mowbray: (Is it allowed to laugh during drops?)
Bruce Mowbray: (Come tomorrow at this hour to talk about it!)
Agatha Macbeth: I will :)
Wol Euler listens
Bruce Mowbray: a theme session tomorrow, here, at 1 p.m.
Bruce Mowbray: on Pabiology.

Santoshima Resident: isn't that today?
Agatha Macbeth: Looking forward to it
Bruce Mowbray: nope, tomorrow.
Yakuzza Lethecus: pabology or pabiologie ?
Bruce Mowbray: Bruce's session.
Bruce Mowbray loves th second one, Yaku.
Bruce Mowbray: a Francoisoise.
Agatha Macbeth: MOn dieu
Bruce Mowbray: onigokko
Agatha Macbeth: Woohoo
Santoshima Resident: drat it's in archive
Agatha Macbeth: Better than last night

PhilNS Schumann: oh somebody to tend to RL ㋡ see you next *waves*
Agatha Macbeth: I did a solo
Bruce Mowbray: stop
Yakuzza Lethecus: bye philns
Bruce Mowbray: Do NOT wish to drive Phil away!
Bruce Mowbray: Oh HECK!
Agatha Macbeth: Maybe he had an appointment
Yakuzza Lethecus: well not fully fitting together with zen´s music the oni
Bruce Mowbray ponders "
Bleu Oleander: :)
Zen Arado: yeh hard to mix that in :)
Bruce Mowbray: I guess I didn't hear that.
Agatha Macbeth: Pardon?
Bruce Mowbray: (because you had not mixed it in?)
Agatha Macbeth: It's in the mix
Bruce Mowbray: Hmmm.
Bruce Mowbray: Cool.
Zen Arado: no it isn't
Bruce Mowbray: Mix is good.
Bruce Mowbray: Not cool?
Zen Arado: worng tempo
Bruce Mowbray: ahhhh!
Bruce Mowbray: Yikes!
Zen Arado: and key prob
Bruce Mowbray dies from laughing....
Agatha Macbeth: Uh oh
Agatha Macbeth: Ah
Bruce Mowbray: The fish go crazy whenh I do that!
Santoshima Resident: uhm
Agatha Macbeth: Not surpring really
Agatha Macbeth: +is
Zen Arado: think they are getting food
Bruce Mowbray: when*
Santoshima Resident: anyone interested in Art?
Zen Arado: are they piranhas?
Bruce Mowbray: I am vastly interested in art, yes!
Santoshima Resident: to change the topic a tad
Santoshima Resident: ok
Agatha Macbeth: There was a topic?
Wol Euler: yes, san

Santoshima Resident: can i offer a link to an artist?
Santoshima Resident: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fJ4umqXGjM#t=278 Ann Hamilton: "the event of a thread" | "Exclusive" | Art
Wol Euler: sure!
Bleu Oleander: art always a good subject
Santoshima Resident: Ann Hamilton
Santoshima Resident: it's a short talk
Santoshima Resident: enjoy now or later
Santoshima Resident: text and textiles
Bruce Mowbray: Oh my! THANKS, San!
Santoshima Resident: and a whole lot of Play

Agatha Macbeth: That's a thought, I must go and look at Bryn's new thing
Bleu Oleander: oh i've seen this! very interesting
Zen Arado: thanks San
Santoshima Resident: yes, quite compelling work ... would like to see it in the real
Zen Arado: I saw an exhibit at the Tate Modern with kids crawling through tubes and things
Bruce Mowbray: performance art, then?
Santoshima Resident: as kids will do
Santoshima Resident: poetry art
Zen Arado: just interactive
Bruce Mowbray: kids, poetry, and tubes?
Zen Arado: 'just'
Agatha Macbeth: Short and sweet
Zen Arado: very good it was

Bleu Oleander: saw Bryn's new installation and my viewer hasn't been the same since lol
Bruce Mowbray: ha ha!
Agatha Macbeth: Oh ha ha
Santoshima Resident: what changed?
Bleu Oleander: settings got all screwed up
Bleu Oleander: and now can't get it back
Agatha Macbeth: Yeh she does use some fairly amazing windlights
Wol Euler: zen, that was good.
Bruce Mowbray: That DAMNED "framework."

Zen Arado: I better go get setup for DJing
Zen Arado: byee
Bruce Mowbray: bye for now, Zen!
Agatha Macbeth: Aww bye Zen
Bleu Oleander: bye Zen
Yakuzza Lethecus: bye zen
Agatha Macbeth: At PP?
Agatha Macbeth: Guess I'll never know
Wol Euler smiles.
Yakuzza Lethecus: you´ll know after u tp there in a few minutes :)
Agatha Macbeth: Ah
Bruce Mowbray: :)
Agatha Macbeth: Looks like Bruce went to book his space :p
Wol Euler: hmmmm
Santoshima Resident: bfn ~ going outside while the day is shining. good to see you all
Agatha Macbeth: Bye Sanji
Bleu Oleander: bye San
Wol Euler: have fun, san, and thanks for the art
Agatha Macbeth: Have fun
Yakuzza Lethecus: bye san
Bruce Mowbray: 's current display-name is "Bruce".
Bleu Oleander: probably should do same :)
Yakuzza Lethecus: yes, i guess we all will
Agatha Macbeth: TC Bleu
Bleu Oleander: beautiful day here
Agatha Macbeth: WB Bruce
Yakuzza Lethecus: bye bleu wb bruce
Bruce Mowbray: I have an lm for anyone wishing to go to Zen's dj-ing.
Bleu Oleander: bye have a nice weekend everyone
Wol Euler: bye bleu
Yakuzza Lethecus: we just got a lot of rainy heavy snow today
Wol Euler: no, I shall wind down
Wol Euler: working tomorrow, alas
Agatha Macbeth: Oh dear
Bruce Mowbray: May it be good, Wol.
Wol Euler: thanks

--BELL--

Yakuzza Lethecus: good weekend everyone!
Wol Euler: competition due in four weeks and a second two weeks after that
Bruce Mowbray winding down, himself.
Bruce Mowbray: (too much stress, Wol-ji! Can you see it as "play"?
Bruce Mowbray: ooooops.
Bruce Mowbray: Also time for moi to depart.
Bruce Mowbray: Thank you, good people.
Agatha Macbeth: Time to scrape?
Bruce Mowbray: yeppers.
Agatha Macbeth: Bon appetit
Bruce Mowbray: Time to be a-scraping.
Bruce Mowbray: TY!
Wol Euler: bye bruce!

Agatha Macbeth: Shall we switch off?
Wol Euler: yea
Wol Euler: h