The Guardian for this meeting was szavanna Resident. The comments are by szavanna Resident.

Zen Arado: 's current display-name is "Zen".
Yakuzza Lethecus: 's current display-name is "Yaku".
Eliza Madrigal: 's current display-name is "Eliza".
Bleu Oleander: 's current display-name is "Bleu".
Yakuzza Lethecus: hey zenji
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Zen :)
Bleu Oleander: hi Zen
Zen Arado: Hi all
Zen Arado: where were you all?
Bleu Oleander: at Kira
Bleu Oleander: sim was down
szavanna Resident: 's current display-name is "Sunshine".
Zen Arado: still?
Yakuzza Lethecus: field trip in a world of books
Bleu Oleander: was a half hour ago yes
szavanna Resident: °͜°
szavanna Resident: hi Zenji °͜°
Eliza Madrigal: :) Yaku
Zen Arado: Hi Sunji :)
szavanna Resident: ah feeling all better now that the Pagoda is back in action
Eliza Madrigal: just to finish, the poem I wrote was playful itself... the rhythm is a little like hopscotch if you listen :) want me to post it here?
Bleu Oleander ⊱ smiles ⊰
Zen Arado: sure
Bleu Oleander: yes
Zen Arado: I was just doing a poetry exercise
Zen Arado: learning slant rhyme
szavanna Resident: yes please °͜°
Bleu Oleander: what's that?
Eliza Madrigal: (this is from the Clarity project which I despised missing yesterday even for good reasons ) :)
Eliza Madrigal: Clearly Playing by Eliza Aswirl in Causes and Conditioning, we meet in in dynamic play Clashing, Crashing Seriously, Lightly, we choose over and over Again, who hasn't thrown their pieces down, or given themselves Up What were we really deciding? Two matches two matches three, then Roll Knock you off kilter, then you capture me Hide and Seek Catch and Go King chase Queen and Stop.
Bleu Oleander: very nice!
Eliza Madrigal: (must have pasted from an early notecard - one too many 'in's)
Bleu Oleander: :)
Bleu Oleander: read right over that :)
szavanna Resident: ah I was wondering about that "in"
Eliza Madrigal: games are meant to be fun, and taking ourselves lightly is part of that
Eliza Madrigal: [end]
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Zen Arado: nice poem
szavanna Resident: I love the poem Liz ❤
Eliza Madrigal: thanks for including me, thoughtful of you
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Zen Arado: they make us write poems about all sorts of things
Zen Arado: not just spiritual things
Eliza Madrigal: ty Sun
szavanna Resident: yw °͜°
Zen Arado: we had to use a technique called a Rhyming well
Eliza Madrigal: for rhyming well?
Bleu Oleander: what do you call a form of poetry that doesn't rhyme?
Zen Arado: no for finding words that rhyme
Eliza Madrigal: free verse?
Zen Arado: close full rhymes then far out slant rhymes
szavanna Resident: not sure what its called
Bleu Oleander: slant rhymes?
--BELL--
Zen Arado: you select 4 0r 5 key words from a poem then find lots of rhyming worfs then rewrite the poem fitting some of them in
Bleu Oleander: http://www.poets.org/page.php/prmID/197
Bleu Oleander: wow didn't know so many forms
Eliza Madrigal: great page, ty
Bleu Oleander: "Blues poem" hehe
Eliza Madrigal: :)
szavanna Resident: °͜°
szavanna Resident: that sounds nice
Zen Arado: but you create your won rhymes
Zen Arado: the far out ones are great
szavanna Resident: like?
Bleu Oleander: "found poetry" sounds fun
Zen Arado: well the author starts with a word 'lascivious
Zen Arado: whcih has oblivious, cuss, muss, truss pus as near rhymes
szavanna Resident: hmm
Eliza Madrigal: hm
szavanna Resident: ;p
Zen Arado: far out ones are carniverous, villanous, caribous, lassitude
Zen Arado: get the idea?
szavanna Resident: scratches head
Eliza Madrigal: groovy
Zen Arado: villainous
szavanna Resident: ( actually I went to English class today °͜°
Eliza Madrigal: :) helpful for this
szavanna Resident: so many English words - I am telling you :)
Bleu Oleander: :)
szavanna Resident: I usually use the ten words I know :)
Eliza Madrigal: don't think anyone's ever written a PaB rap song... maybe its time
Bleu Oleander: haha!
szavanna Resident: wow yes
szavanna Resident: sounds fresh °͜°
Bleu Oleander: rappers it turns out quiet a certain part of the brain when composing on the fly
szavanna Resident: we have a rapper here called Fresh
Bleu Oleander: shuts down the top down review part
Bleu Oleander: just uses the association part
Eliza Madrigal: they found a way to bypass the censor I guess
Bleu Oleander: yes
Bleu Oleander: interesting eh?
Eliza Madrigal: very
szavanna Resident: what do you call those rap competitions?
Bleu Oleander: rap competitons
Eliza Madrigal: lol
szavanna Resident: like the ones in the Eminem movie
Bleu Oleander: haha!
szavanna Resident: hehe
Zen Arado: Leaving Inishmore Rain and sunlight and the boat between them Shifted whole hillsides through the afternoon – Quiet variations on an urgent theme Reminding me now that we left too soon The island awash in wave and anthem. Miles from the brimming enclave of the bay I hear again the Atlantic’s voices, The gulls above us as we pulled away – So munificent their final noises These are the broadcasts from our holiday.
szavanna Resident: isn't it a "rap-off" or something?
Eliza Madrigal: that was my thought at first Sun
Zen Arado: that's from the start of a Paul Muldoon poem
Zen Arado: see the far off rhymes?
Zen Arado: sorry Michael Longley
Eliza Madrigal: them... theme.... anthem ?
Zen Arado: yes
szavanna Resident: :)
Zen Arado: voices noises
Eliza Madrigal: not sure where the slants are....
Zen Arado: with some full rhymes too
Zen Arado: that is slant ryyme
Bleu Oleander: you should do a poetry writing session Zen
Eliza Madrigal: Oh, I see
Zen Arado: no..I am just learning myself
Eliza Madrigal: rhyme that is off kilter :)
Bleu Oleander: would be fun to learn more
Zen Arado: some assonance
Eliza Madrigal: yes... teachign is a great way to learn
Zen Arado: yes we are learning about imagery and voice and lots of other stuff
Bleu Oleander: that's in rl Zen?
Eliza Madrigal: very few poems capture me visually... have to 'hear' them
Zen Arado: yes a university course
Zen Arado: yes I think I like the sounds better than imagery
Zen Arado: I find imagery hard to generate
szavanna Resident: I love that Liz
Bleu Oleander: what is meant by imagery?
Eliza Madrigal: it may be that it is so difficult to do well, true
Bleu Oleander: imagery created in the mind or on the page?
Zen Arado: you discover your strengths
Eliza Madrigal: but I think of poetry as music
Zen Arado: in words
szavanna Resident: :)
Bleu Oleander: so how the words look?
Zen Arado: coming up with images to put in poems
Eliza Madrigal: descriptive writing... where a writer makes you forget you are reading and you see a red barn and feel the weather
Eliza Madrigal: and you've lived there forever
Bleu Oleander: ah ok
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Bleu Oleander: there is also how a poem looks on paper, yes?
Eliza Madrigal: writing with space
Bleu Oleander: Many modern poets eschew recognisable structures or forms, and write in free verse.
Zen Arado: yes you can arrange the words into a shape like a lantern
Zen Arado: http://www.poemhunter.com/best-poems...a/ode-to-salt/
Bleu Oleander: Free verse is a form of poetry that does not use consistent meter patterns, rhyme, or any other musical pattern. It thus tends to follow the rhythm of natural speech.
Zen Arado: great imagery in that poem by Pablo Neruda
Bleu Oleander: I like to write free verse :)
Zen Arado: just about humble salt
Eliza Madrigal: me too.. can't be bothered to conform in my old age
Eliza Madrigal: :P
Bleu Oleander: ha! Eliza
Bleu Oleander: no rules, just what feels right .... kinda like I paint too
Zen Arado: but it's like anything...you have to learn the techniques so you can express yourself better
szavanna Resident: lol Liz
Eliza Madrigal: writing with space is a lot like painting maybe... or modern art generally
Bleu Oleander: yes
Eliza Madrigal: like that about O's poems
Zen Arado: most good poets hone their poems quite a lot
Zen Arado: not just written in one go
Bleu Oleander: free verse, free form ... free is good (with some hidden structure)
Eliza Madrigal: :)
szavanna Resident: this is a basmala
Eliza Madrigal: poetry is also simply fellowship
Zen Arado: the words are carefully chosen and revised
Eliza Madrigal: Oh, looks....
szavanna Resident: using words to create a painting
Bleu Oleander: nice!
Eliza Madrigal nods nods
szavanna Resident: it means "in the name of Allah the merciful"
Zen Arado: 'dust of the sea' isn't that a great image of salt?
szavanna Resident: wow yes Zenji
Bleu Oleander: yes!
szavanna Resident: dust of the sea :)
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Zen Arado: the last line..'in it we taste infinitude'
Bleu Oleander: have to go ... nice conversation everyone!
Eliza Madrigal: Hugs, Bleu
szavanna Resident: take care Bleu °͜°
Bleu Oleander: bye ... take care :)
szavanna Resident: see u soon
Zen Arado: in it we taste inf in it ude
Bleu Oleander: ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥
szavanna Resident: have a fun day :)
Zen Arado: bye Bleu
Eliza Madrigal: stunning... thanks for the elaboration
Zen Arado: it was pointed out to me
Zen Arado: makes you realize the subtlety of the poem
Yakuzza Lethecus: bye for now everyone
Eliza Madrigal: bye Yaku, nice to see you
Zen Arado: bye Yaku
szavanna Resident: byebyee Yaku
szavanna Resident: I think as one learns something ..you arrive at deeper levels every class you take
Zen Arado: yes
szavanna Resident: or the more you focus on it
Eliza Madrigal: spiral around
szavanna Resident: its a natural progression
Zen Arado: learning about writing makes you appreciate the writing of others more
szavanna Resident: its like walking down a street the first time
szavanna Resident: or passing there again and again
szavanna Resident: yes
Zen Arado: I suppose like learning a musical instrument
szavanna Resident: yes of course
Zen Arado: or learning to read music
szavanna Resident: I am teaching music to the kids
Zen Arado: which I was hopeless at
szavanna Resident: and suddenly they are more interested in how I play
Eliza Madrigal: lovely
Zen Arado: yes
Zen Arado: deepening appreciation
szavanna Resident: I think this is why its good to try out as many things as you can
szavanna Resident: you will understand others better
szavanna Resident: and develop deeper connections
szavanna Resident: like the people in the group Shakti
szavanna Resident: Zakir Hussain and the others
Eliza Madrigal: I so desire to specialize.. somehow feel that my unfamilarity with things leaves me open to appreciate others' uniqueness... but, to taste is wonderful, to partake
szavanna Resident: they don't have to talk really - they just know :)
szavanna Resident: yes just to take part and test
szavanna Resident: become another person for a bit
Eliza Madrigal: it is odd to feel one has learned something for the first time and then read yourself having written it years before as if you knew.. but you know for sure you couln't have really known, but... you knew it as new then as whenver now is
szavanna Resident: Zenji I am looking into that streaming page ...
Eliza Madrigal: :)
--BELL--
Zen Arado: I have another one
szavanna Resident listens :)
szavanna Resident: Zenji - wanted to show another poem?
Zen Arado: another link
Zen Arado: I sent you in IM
szavanna Resident: have it °͜°
Eliza Madrigal: so many streams :)
szavanna Resident: time to go - that was such an amazing chat
Zen Arado: kk
szavanna Resident: I hope we can get parties going soon
szavanna Resident: Please ask Storm about it