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2013.01.13 08:00 - Guardians Session: Fives
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Attending were : Aphrodite Macbain : Bleu Oleander : Catrinamonblue Resident : Eliza Madrigal : Lucinda Lavender : Raffila Millgrove : Xirana Oximoxi : Yakuzza Lethecus : Zen Arado : druth Vlodovic : szavanna Resident
1) Party = Senses of Being (with focus on five),
2) 99 Days = Sign up soon - WG to discuss wiki permission exception for involved non-guardian,
3) Druth creating historical display and gathering stories of interest from PaBers
3) Druth creating historical display and gathering stories of interest from PaBers
4) "Meaning" and "Hidden Layers" as topics
5) Tweaking Dream Circle
Aphrodite Macbain: Hi again
druth Vlodovic: cat would like to come fro the meeting, is that ok?
Sunshine (szavanna): hehe cute sit - this fairy AO
Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): for me is ok:)
Sunshine (szavanna): of course
Bleu (bleu.oleander): yes, sure
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): (back)
Sunshine (szavanna): wb ❤
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): sure
Sunshine (szavanna): hi again Cat °͜°
Bleu (bleu.oleander): hey Cat :)
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): ty Sun :)
Catrinamonblue: ty guys for allowing me to be here
Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): nice to have you here Cat:)
Sunshine (szavanna): ty for coming :)
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): Hi Cat, no worries, yes :)
Bleu (bleu.oleander): :D
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): Bleu are you sitting away from us not to spread flu?
Bleu (bleu.oleander): haha yes keeping my distance
Bleu (bleu.oleander): promise not to sneeze on anyone haha
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): lol
Aphrodite Macbain hands blue a linen hanky
Bleu (bleu.oleander): need to get a moaning ao
Sunshine (szavanna): ;p
Bleu (bleu.oleander): ha! need a whole box
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): bet there is one!
Yaku (yakuzza.lethecus): hey everyone
Bleu (bleu.oleander): hiya Raffi and Yaku
Sunshine (szavanna): hi Raffi :)
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): Hi Raffi and Yaku
Sunshine (szavanna): Yakuji °͜°
Zen (zen.arado): Hi Rallila and Yaku
Raffila Millgrove: hi everyone.
Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): hi Raffi and Yaku :)
Bleu (bleu.oleander): brb
Sunshine (szavanna): hb
5th Anniversary ...
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): I guess it makes sense to begin at 8:05 this time, will give the floor to Aph to talk about the Anniversary party
Aphrodite Macbain: Thanks Eliza
Sunshine (szavanna): listens to Aph
Aphrodite Macbain: I will be brief.
Aphrodite Macbain: First I want to say that we are looking for ideas still and I hope all of you feel comfortable contributing
Aphrodite Macbain: second, thecelebrations will happen on March 30,31 and April 1st
Aphrodite Macbain: we will be celebrating PAB's 5th anniversary
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): (woot)
Aphrodite Macbain: They will take place in the Dome, the Molecule Theatre and on individual member plots
Sunshine (szavanna): °͜°
Aphrodite Macbain: we are hoping that in the celebrations we are able to attract old PAB members to return and encourage new membership
Bleu (bleu.oleander): OMG how funny
Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): :)
Sunshine (szavanna): lolol
Aphrodite Macbain: Outreach is our purpose
Aphrodite Macbain: what is funny?
Sunshine (szavanna): Bleu
Bleu (bleu.oleander): this blowing nose AO
Sunshine (szavanna): ;D
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): Bleu's avie has a flu, too
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): empathy
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): :)
Sunshine (szavanna): ;o)
Aphrodite Macbain: so we still need a theme for the celebrations and I hope we can come up with one today.
Aphrodite Macbain: done
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): thank you Aph!
druth Vlodovic: theme?
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): one idea that came up was to work with the number 5 somehow
Aphrodite Macbain: nods
Sunshine (szavanna): yes it would be nice to find a theme - something that is common for all events
Sunshine (szavanna): (hehe that was fun Bleu ;o)
Aphrodite Macbain: along with 5th anniversary
Zen (zen.arado): five easy pieces
Zen (zen.arado): :)
Bleu (bleu.oleander): :))
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): five aspects of Play as Being
druth Vlodovic: 5th wedding anniversary is wood
Aphrodite Macbain: druth, maybe you can mention what you are planning to do on your plot
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): one year we used the PaB symbol a lot... Bleu made several items for that
Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): The number 5 is a characteristic of the man. First, according to the Cabal, it is the number of the perfect Man (got rid from his animal side). According to the Bible, it is the symbol of the Man-God by the five wounds of the Christ on cross (for this reason, it is also considered as the number of the grace). But it is also associated to the man in general (2 + 3) having an unstable character of duality, 2, in spite of his divinity, 3. The 5 is also found on the human body: the five fingers of the hand and feet, the five senses (touch, taste, sense of smell, hearing and the sight), the five members (two arms, two legs and the head, the bust being the center), the five bones forming the metacarpus, the metatarse and the brain-pan, etc.
Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): http://www.ridingthebeast.com/numbers/nu5.php
Aphrodite Macbain: Xirana- could you summarize?
Aphrodite Macbain: smiles
Bleu (bleu.oleander): I like the idea of using 5 in some way
Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): first source I've found....about symbology of number 5
Sunshine (szavanna): i love the five senses
Bleu (bleu.oleander): yes 5 senses
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): ty Xiri
Bleu (bleu.oleander): would make a nice Art project too
Aphrodite Macbain: nods- how would we engage all of them on line
Sunshine (szavanna): mmm yes
Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): yw:)
Bleu (bleu.oleander): that would be the challenge Aph
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): and also relate them to Being
Bleu (bleu.oleander): "Being 5"
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): Being Heard, Being Seen, Being smelled? lol
Sunshine (szavanna): so Bleuji you could make that our next art project?
Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): :)) yes:)) it's suggesting:)
Sunshine (szavanna) sniffs Liz
Eliza (eliza.madrigal) giggles
Sunshine (szavanna): sniff sniff
Bleu (bleu.oleander): I'll try to make the next Art of Being project the same theme or a related one
Aphrodite Macbain: the idea was to use the dome for a sort of retrospective exhibition as well as for the party
Sunshine (szavanna): I would love a 5 senses art project
Bleu (bleu.oleander): me too
Sunshine (szavanna): yay she likes it :)
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): :)
Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): me too:)
Aphrodite Macbain: Bleu likes it!
Sunshine (szavanna): she does!
druth Vlodovic: common sense, reason, empathy, awareness, moral sense
Bleu (bleu.oleander): cough cough sneeze .... yuck! :(
Sunshine (szavanna): aww ♥
Bleu (bleu.oleander): ♥
Aphrodite Macbain: yes- many kinds of senses druth
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): inward and outward senses
Bleu (bleu.oleander): i'm sense-less today :(
druth Vlodovic sends bleu a card promising a hug when she is no longer diseased
Bleu (bleu.oleander): ty!
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): So the theme is five senses then? and someone can make that clear as a project for everyone?
Aphrodite Macbain: any other theme ideas?
druth Vlodovic: I'dlike to mention my part of the prep, since it is going to need a bit of help from others
druth Vlodovic: oops,sorry
Bleu (bleu.oleander): we could turn our logo into a 5 ring logo like the olympics haha
Aphrodite Macbain: please druth
Aphrodite Macbain: listens
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): good idea Druth :::listens:::
Bleu (bleu.oleander) listens and sits on hands
Historical Perspective ...
Historical Perspective ...
druth Vlodovic: I;m doing a sort of historical perspective on my plot
druth Vlodovic: hoping to get things together that will trigger fond memories for past and present members
druth Vlodovic: stories,oldmeeting places,artifacts of the society here etc
druth Vlodovic: I'll put a call out in the google group
druth Vlodovic: Eliza was showing me the old meeting places earlier
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): really nice idea
Bleu (bleu.oleander): should include Pema's Time Book in some way?
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): that would be great
Sunshine (szavanna): °͜°
Aphrodite Macbain: your challenge will be to restrict it to the required number of prims
druth Vlodovic: anything that says the history of pab
Bleu (bleu.oleander): maybe we could do some of the plays we did in the theater during that weekend?
Sunshine (szavanna) looks at Liz
Sunshine (szavanna): yay
druth Vlodovic: I'll have a giver for certain things,like the onigokko and other things that have been prominent that newcomers might like
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): :)
Aphrodite Macbain: I was hoping we might do a variety show in the Molecule Theatre
Bleu (bleu.oleander): I can do a new t-shirt with our new theme when we have one ... for the giver
Bleu (bleu.oleander): yes yes a variety show!!
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): it is a great idea... if there is overspill then my plot can be used as a kind of library too - for PaB in-world books
Aphrodite Macbain: Thanks druth. It is nice of you to devote all of your plot to the celebrations.
Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): I go silently now, take care all and see you soon! :-)
Bleu (bleu.oleander): bye Xiri
Sunshine (szavanna): take care Xiri :)
Raffila Millgrove: /me leaves quietly with Xiri
Yaku (yakuzza.lethecus): bye xirana
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): /me waves Xiri :)
Aphrodite Macbain: Bye Xirana
Bleu (bleu.oleander): bye Raffi
Aphrodite Macbain: waves at raffi
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): /me waves Raffi :)
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): maybe it would be interesting for each involved pab member to reach out to one who hasn't been in a while
Sunshine (szavanna): byebyee Raffi
Zen (zen.arado): idf there is an empty onenearby I could take it and you acould have that too
Yaku (yakuzza.lethecus): and raffi
Zen (zen.arado): bye Xiri Raffi
Aphrodite Macbain: good idea Eliza
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): there are spaces near the dome
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): not sure if one directly near Druth's?
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): unless Doug may want to donate his :)
Bleu (bleu.oleander): we could each put a book on our plots
druth Vlodovic: there is one but it is a sort of wild area isolating the pavillion
Bleu (bleu.oleander): so peeps could walk around and read
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): that's an interesting idea Bleu!
druth Vlodovic: does anyone know how to make a tour hud?
Bleu (bleu.oleander): Sunji can teach us how to make one
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): a permanent treasure hunt
Sunshine (szavanna): °͜°
Sunshine (szavanna): ah nice
Bleu (bleu.oleander): yes a tour hud
Sunshine (szavanna): tour hud sounds great
Eliza (eliza.madrigal) predictably has no idea
Catrinamonblue: as a newbie I like the idea of touring around
Bleu (bleu.oleander): great we have one taker!!
Sunshine (szavanna): there is also the train
Sunshine (szavanna): and balloon ride
Bleu (bleu.oleander): yes the train!
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): there were a lot of visitors after the theater opened... if we wanted to draw in people it is not too hard to make that shift of focus
Sunshine (szavanna): °͜°
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): but that is up to us... sort of nice that folks just trickle in
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): :)
Sunshine (szavanna): mm sounds great
Aphrodite Macbain: Storm has done all of tis before so it will be easier to do the next time
Bleu (bleu.oleander): do we want to list the event publicly?
Sunshine (szavanna): well we have been sort of an exclusive club so far °͜°
Aphrodite Macbain: I think so Bleu
Eliza (eliza.madrigal) nods
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): part of that is logistics... remember all we went through to get into the theater okay
Aphrodite Macbain: open it up as much as possible
Sunshine (szavanna): so we didn't encourage new people to come really
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): all stripped down :)
Aphrodite Macbain: not really Sun
Sunshine (szavanna): ahh yes getting to the theater hehe
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): but I think for sure all of us feel we could be more welcoming
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): to old friends and new
Sunshine (szavanna): °͜°
Aphrodite Macbain: We were hoping people would write poems and read them
Bleu (bleu.oleander): so did we come up with a theme?
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): lol
druth Vlodovic: 5
Aphrodite Macbain: 5 senses maybe
Bleu (bleu.oleander): lol
Sunshine (szavanna): 5 senses?
druth Vlodovic: is there a 5 line format for poems?
Bleu (bleu.oleander): 5 Senses of Being?
Aphrodite Macbain: haiku?
Sunshine (szavanna): 5 line haiku
Zen (zen.arado): iambic pentameter
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): :)
Sunshine (szavanna): hehe Zenji ;o)
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): I like that - five senses of Being... it has playroom
Bleu (bleu.oleander): fiveku
druth Vlodovic: who let the artist in here?
Zen (zen.arado): no that's metre in one line
Sunshine (szavanna): smiles
Aphrodite Macbain: Being Five
Zen (zen.arado): five aggregates
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): hesitate to say because we could keep this up for days, but have a few other items on the agenda...
Sunshine (szavanna): fiveku °͜°
Aphrodite Macbain: we can work on it...
Aphrodite Macbain: later
Aphrodite Macbain: it sounds like 5 senses is the most popular
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): yes
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): good to clarify as soon as possible but no sooner
Sunshine (szavanna): hi Luci °͜°
Bleu (bleu.oleander): hi Luci
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): Hi Luci :)
Zen (zen.arado): Hi Luci
Lucinda Lavender: HI All
Lucinda Lavender: sorry to be late
Sunshine (szavanna): °͜°
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): [will someone make Luci a note?] no worries
Sunshine (szavanna): I will
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): ty <3
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): We're just a few days from the next round of 99 Days
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): I believe it is starting on the 15th, but will confirm with Wol
Aphrodite Macbain: He has to set it up in the wiki, no?
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): yes... Wol will do
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): The idea, for those not clear, is to choose one thing that you'd like to make a habit
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): and each day to report in, at the wiki
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): in the comments section
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): this becomes a surprisingly warm space
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): as we each sort of check in daily
Aphrodite Macbain: most often try to meditate daily and report on it
Bleu (bleu.oleander) would like to crawl in to a warm space :)
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): :)
Catrinamonblue: I was thinking of trying but not sure, a gratitude journal
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): yes... or write a poem, or anything really
Aphrodite Macbain hands bleu a blankie
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): that's a lovely idea Catrina
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): a lot of people are interested this round
Zen (zen.arado): or just write something each day
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): have heard from para and maxine
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): and stevenaia
Zen (zen.arado): hard thing is to keep it up
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): and storm sent an email to the group with praises
Catrinamonblue: that's my worry
Zen (zen.arado): needs commitment
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): yes... some haven't made the whole round but that's okay
Bleu (bleu.oleander): did it start yet?
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): aspiration is worthy in itself and we do our best :)
Zen (zen.arado): remembers getting out of bed again and going to computer
Aphrodite Macbain: does one need to be a Guardian to submit something?
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): the 15th is my understanding of the start date
Aphrodite Macbain: yes it is eliza
Bleu (bleu.oleander): how do you sign up?
Sunshine (szavanna): I must go take care all - have a great week ahead - Bleuji get better soon °͜°
Aphrodite Macbain: log in and write something
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): we have not opened wiki permissions as exceptions but can visit that
Aphrodite Macbain: bye sza
Zen (zen.arado): byee Sunji :)
Eliza (eliza.madrigal) waves to Sun
Aphrodite Macbain: good
Bleu (bleu.oleander): bye Sunji
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): https://wiki.playasbeing.org/Classes_and_Sessions/The_99_Days_project
Aphrodite Macbain: I used it to submit my paintings = which for me are a form of meditation
Catrinamonblue: :)
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): yes that was beautiful
Zen (zen.arado): some put photos
Aphrodite Macbain: yes!
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): sometimes when I'm out in nature I think about your sketching and it slows me down Aph
Catrinamonblue: I did look at past 99 day projects to get an understanding of it
Catrinamonblue: I loved your drawings Aph
Aphrodite Macbain: smiles at Eliza
Aphrodite Macbain: and Cat
Lucinda Lavender: nodding
Zen (zen.arado): could write about a book you are reading
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): yes
Aphrodite Macbain: painting them is good therapy for a lot of things
Catrinamonblue: nods
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): if I participate I'll try to work with an idea Fox had.. which was "uncanny moments"
Aphrodite Macbain: !!?
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): or rather moments of uncanny
Bleu (bleu.oleander): hmmm will think about what to do ... perhaps flu dreams will come to me :)
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): it is similar to a gratitude journal I guess.. something unsual in the day
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): :) Bleu
Aphrodite Macbain: something special or unusual
Zen (zen.arado): a mini blog
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): happy to see the enthusiasm this round
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): :)
Notecard ...
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): Okay, next item is notecard - does anyone here not have the updated card?
Zen (zen.arado): me
Aphrodite Macbain: I think I have the most recent
druth Vlodovic: I just grab a new one from the plinth whenever i need one
Aphrodite Macbain: perhaps we should date them
Bleu (bleu.oleander): yes
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): it should say "What is PlayasBeing" at the top and have (2013)
Zen (zen.arado): thanks Eliza
Aphrodite Macbain: nods, maybe even the month
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): raise hands if wanting one now
Lucinda Lavender: i do not have it
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): :)
Bleu (bleu.oleander) raises hand
Lucinda Lavender: luci raises hand
Eliza (eliza.madrigal) gives everyone a forehead star
Aphrodite Macbain: aph raises hers
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): Lastly... Topics!
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): go wild :)
Zen (zen.arado): go wid sounds good
Aphrodite Macbain: :-)
Zen (zen.arado): wild
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): hhehe
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): Bleu and Xiri had ideas? And Zen I think you mentioned busyness last time?
Bleu (bleu.oleander): oh yes, sorry foggy
Zen (zen.arado): what about 'meaning'?
Aphrodite Macbain: what do you mean?
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): heheh
Bleu (bleu.oleander): "hidden layers"
Eliza (eliza.madrigal) snorts
Zen (zen.arado): we talked about that the other night and I'm not sure what it is now
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): interesting
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): and also the way the two ideas might play together
Zen (zen.arado): meaning, meaninglessness
Zen (zen.arado): maybe too deep
Bleu (bleu.oleander): meaning making?
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): too deep for PaB?
druth Vlodovic: interesting topic "too deep"
Bleu (bleu.oleander): nothing too deep :)
Zen (zen.arado): for good discussion
Aphrodite Macbain: we have a long list of themes listed in the wki
Aphrodite Macbain: have we abandoned that?
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): I like both of these... maybe just need a good one sentence explaination
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): I looked at it this week Aph but it is also fun to come up with new ones
Aphrodite Macbain: yes
Bleu (bleu.oleander): which ones?
Aphrodite Macbain: better than a single word
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): meaning and hidden layers
Zen (zen.arado): meaning and purpose
Aphrodite Macbain: hidden layers of meaning?
Bleu (bleu.oleander): hidden layers as phenomenon, tool and metaphor
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): I watched A Beautiful Mind (again) with the kids the other day - it was a strong string (imputed meaning)
Bleu (bleu.oleander): (our salon last night)
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): please say more Bleu?
Bleu (bleu.oleander): the layers between perception and reality
Bleu (bleu.oleander): mostly hidden from us
Aphrodite Macbain: nods
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): in between places?
Bleu (bleu.oleander): yes
Aphrodite Macbain: how we read our own meanings into things
Zen (zen.arado): r + i as hagenputs it
Aphrodite Macbain: ?
Zen (zen.arado): where i is the square root of -1
druth Vlodovic: maybe we should start assigning homework
Zen (zen.arado): heh
Zen (zen.arado): the imaginary dimension of reality beyond out commonsense one
Bleu (bleu.oleander): also what is real that we don't have access to
Aphrodite Macbain: How about trust - what is needed
Bleu (bleu.oleander): limited by our "5 senses"
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): :)
Aphrodite Macbain: trust?
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): we do put a lot of trust in our five senses
Aphrodite Macbain: we have more than five if we consider intuition
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): and some put trust, or rather faith, in less agreed upon ones
Aphrodite Macbain: nods
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): if we include inner senses we have room
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): but then that could be endless huh... hm
Zen (zen.arado): five aggregates
Aphrodite Macbain: yes.
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): so for now let me try to summarise the session...
1) Party = Senses of Being (with focus on five),
2) 99 Days = Sign up soon - WG to discuss wiki permission exception for involved non-guardian,
3) "Meaning" and "Hidden Layers" as topics
Aphrodite Macbain feels her head spin
Bleu (bleu.oleander): "Meaning" and "Hidden Layers" is that for the board?
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): yes
Bleu (bleu.oleander): ok cool
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): (WG discuss in email since meeting not soon enough)
Catrinamonblue: ty guys :)
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): :)
Bleu (bleu.oleander): ok fading ... back to bed hehe bye all :)
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): Night Bleu
Catrinamonblue: sleep well Bleu
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): sleep artistically
Bleu (bleu.oleander): take care all
Lucinda Lavender: hope you are better soon Bleu!
Bleu (bleu.oleander): byeee
Zen (zen.arado): byee all
Aphrodite Macbain: bye bye bleu
Bleu (bleu.oleander): ty!
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): Bye Zen
Yaku (yakuzza.lethecus): bye zen/bleu
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): I hope this comes clear soon... re party focus.. imagine it must :)
Lucinda Lavender: bye Zen
druth Vlodovic: does the party need a focus?
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): it helps
druth Vlodovic:I sort of thought "5th anniversary" did it
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): the focus mainly seems to be "outreach"
Aphrodite Macbain: usually dancing and music is the focus
Catrinamonblue: I like the 5 senses of being as a theme :) and love helping Druth with her part in it :)
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): but it helps for people to make things tangible, when giving boundaries
Aphrodite Macbain: bringing people back or in to PAB is the purpose of the celebrations
druth Vlodovic: revival
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): :)
Aphrodite Macbain: yes, renewal
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): love it
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): amazing the group wisdom
Aphrodite Macbain: revival/renewal?
druth Vlodovic: btw,I plan on bugging some past members for stuff, does anyone have suggestions, including what i should ask them for?
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): hmmm...
Aphrodite Macbain: historically related?
druth Vlodovic: yes
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): I don't think Fael comes into SL at all anymore.... fountain lotus maker
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): there is also Moon - who is amazingly creative
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): and he stops by occasionally still to check in... am sure he might like to do something if asked
Aphrodite Macbain: I would imagine that your show would last much longer than 3 days druth
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): well the party would be just the unveiling of a permanent feature?
druth Vlodovic: that is the idea
Aphrodite Macbain: I hope it can be up for the month of April
Lucinda Lavender: Eliza...should anything be mentioned about dream circle?
druth Vlodovic: it might not be very impressive but something will be
Lucinda Lavender: I know I may have to go soon
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): if you like to Luci
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): what is the next date?
Aphrodite Macbain: the process of involving others in yoe installation will be really valuable druth
Aphrodite Macbain: sorry
Lucinda Lavender: I think this thursday at 5:30 pm
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): oh wow... soon
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): :)
Lucinda Lavender: I think...I was not able to get the issue out of my mouth before we all left
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): there is a format for dream circle that is hard for people to follow sometimes so mainly we have to work on being more bossy
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): :)
Lucinda Lavender: yes
Lucinda Lavender: I have written a new note card I would like some help with...
Aphrodite Macbain: make a note card with the rules written on it?
Lucinda Lavender: can I pass it to you...
Lucinda Lavender: yes.. i have one but sometimes thought it was too late to read it
Aphrodite Macbain: best pass it to someone who knows the rules
Lucinda Lavender: and do dream circle
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): we've done that before and it helps, but we also need to work out ways to be strict in the moment without being unfriendly or closed
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): yes sure
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): this is the hardest thing about SL
Lucinda Lavender: ok i get it
Aphrodite Macbain: you mean to stop people from talking too long?
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): openness and details at once
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): more out of place
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): long is okay.. but dream circle is diff than just sharing one's dream and own associations
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): there is a lot a lot a lot of listening
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): 3 parts listening to one part content
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): something like that, would you say Luci?
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): so each time the circle goes around, the process is quiet
Aphrodite Macbain: Thanks Luci
Lucinda Lavender: ok just sent you all the long note
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): except for the one with the stone
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): to make sure there is listening
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): ty Luci
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): the last two dream circles have been great in their own way, don't get me wrong
Lucinda Lavender: it won't go into the local chat
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): but there is something really special to experience in following the form
Lucinda Lavender: it is a long note sorry
Lucinda Lavender: the counter clockwise movement of the stone with each person taking a turn
Aphrodite Macbain: what do you see as the problems?
Lucinda Lavender: understanding that the first round hears all dreams and then we start back with a full round for the first dream
Lucinda Lavender: then the second gets a full round
Lucinda Lavender: till all are done
Lucinda Lavender: the kind of listening is different...more associative as if one has entered the dream being heard
Lucinda Lavender: not pychological or analytical
Lucinda Lavender: just what pops up...and it is not so much listening to what the dream says about the dreamer ...but about universal possibilities
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): the main issue is that it takes time to learn the form - which is fine - we've also been having a lot of voice glitchiness and have to accept that coming early to test those things is not likely
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): so going back to text, which is somewhat limiting
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): I was guilty of tp-ing someone in late too, which others found disruptive... so things like this we need to find ways to be firm about
Lucinda Lavender: nodding
druth Vlodovic: you could offer prizes for early arrivals
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): there is an atmosphere created... a desire to take the time and space more seriously I guess
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): :) like Pam
Yaku (yakuzza.lethecus): yes :)
Yaku (yakuzza.lethecus): i earned my first lindens with that :)
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): really?
druth Vlodovic: and ban "hellos"
Yaku (yakuzza.lethecus): nerver had lindens until pam gave some in the think tank
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): :)
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): SL is hard in this way I think
Lucinda Lavender: well we could have one meeting to talk about it
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): we want to be playful and open but it can be hard to really keep to forms that way
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): and not sort of exhaust oneself
druth Vlodovic: maybe you could have an introductory class and an advanced class
Lucinda Lavender: and then i have a certain quietness i go into and it is hard for me to address while in dreamcircle
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): the first circle worked pretty well for that.. a teaching circle...
Lucinda Lavender: yes...
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): in the second it may have been due to voice issues that some cues were sort of disregarded
Lucinda Lavender: lets call the next one a teaching circle
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): OK
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): sounds good
Lucinda Lavender: sorry to take up so much time here
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): and another idea is to make a simple text that we post at the beginning of each circle
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): it is as good a time as any Luci!
Lucinda Lavender: in that maybe you were not done about the pab anniversary
Yaku (yakuzza.lethecus): is it still possible to just pass the stone but in voice ? :)
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): :))
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): yes... but not all may hear you
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): mixed mediums are frustrating
Lucinda Lavender: yes but what she said
druth Vlodovic: maybe do the voice sessions in skype
Lucinda Lavender: interesting idea
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): that's one option.. then have to set up who will be there ahead of time
Lucinda Lavender: commitment of a sort...
Aphrodite Macbain: skype is easier than voice?
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): and the circles tend to take at least hr and half if not more
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): it can be
druth Vlodovic: I think it is more stable,but i haven't used it much
Yaku (yakuzza.lethecus): yes, skype is a lot more stable there were once the wok meetings in voice
Yaku (yakuzza.lethecus): that worked quiet well
Yaku (yakuzza.lethecus): i even once slept in :P
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): I still find skype frustrating in meetings - the pace is often sketchy - rapid one second then pausing then slow - but in dream circle it might work OK since we are giving space and protocol
Lucinda Lavender: feels real, and if someones dog comes in or they feel the need to eat cereal while in it it cam be distracting
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): yes, hahah....
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): THAT is a PaB story Druth
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): yaku's snoring ^^
druth Vlodovic: lol
Lucinda Lavender: :)))
Lucinda Lavender: I am game
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): was very sweet.. we were meeting in skype for homework session
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): from WoK
Yaku (yakuzza.lethecus): i got to go, but i don´t mind the story, bye everyone
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): sorry to be associating so freely but the overlaps start coming - it would be nice to honor the contributions of those who've done things like that, enriched the group ... Gaya instigating the hw sessions for instance
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): :) Yaku
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): bye for now, ty
Aphrodite Macbain: waves at yaku
Lucinda Lavender: bye Yaku
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): gaya helped hugely with dream circle PaB too
Lucinda Lavender: yes
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): really needs a few covering bases.. giving notes, guiding in IM, etc
Lucinda Lavender: ah!
Lucinda Lavender: guiding in im...had so much to say I became overwhelmed
Lucinda Lavender: well i wil do more that way
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): you do really well Luci but can't do it all :)
Lucinda Lavender: next time
Lucinda Lavender: true
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): maybe the next dc invitation to the group can be more "don't do this" instead of "here's what we do"
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): lol
Lucinda Lavender: hah
Lucinda Lavender: ok:)
Aphrodite Macbain: not
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): feels to go against the grain of things a bit... but... might help
druth Vlodovic: "tactics of mistake" :)
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): prob a lot to learn from original face but neither luci nor I attends
Lucinda Lavender: "think differently about what is being said"
Lucinda Lavender: think universal
Lucinda Lavender: think not personal
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): mmm, nice... hints
Lucinda Lavender: I will work on short typed hints
Lucinda Lavender: that will help me
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): "takes a while to ease into the process, don't worry"
Lucinda Lavender: "say you are passing to nest person"
Lucinda Lavender: or "receiving stone"
druth Vlodovic: each person sits in a nest to give their dream
Lucinda Lavender: we need to know where the stone is
Lucinda Lavender: :))
druth Vlodovic: hatching their experiences
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): :) Druth
Lucinda Lavender: hatching the dream
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): love that imagery
Catrinamonblue: lol
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): we're all there contributing to a dream even if not sharing one we had
Aphrodite Macbain: nods- dreams of PAB
Lucinda Lavender: when you put the dream out there it is for everyone else at that point
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): yes
Catrinamonblue: nods
Lucinda Lavender: but you can always learn personally from that
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): the collective is first, in a sense
Lucinda Lavender: and take what you see from it
Lucinda Lavender: that way we do not tell anyone else what they should do
Lucinda Lavender: or how the dream should see
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): it is pretty ambitious to do this in SL but also a perfect setting
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): :)
Lucinda Lavender: I will make a list of short reminder hints
Lucinda Lavender: to help guide
druth Vlodovic: you could ask cal for a copy of his talking stick,if you don't have one
Lucinda Lavender: ah
Lucinda Lavender: I do have one
Lucinda Lavender: he gave me
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): we need someone to make a stone like that
Lucinda Lavender: I have not really practiced with it
Lucinda Lavender: :))
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): scripted stone could do half the work... maybe OF members could give us a teaching session?
Lucinda Lavender: cool idea
Aphrodite Macbain: it's pretty easy to use
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): it basically tells who has the stone/stick, right?
Aphrodite Macbain: I should go
Lucinda Lavender: aphyes
Lucinda Lavender: thanks aph
Aphrodite Macbain: bye everyone
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): okay Aph, thanks for everything
Catrinamonblue: bye Aph
Aphrodite Macbain: bye
Eliza (eliza.madrigal) waves
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): I should go too... Thursday seems quickly approaching for DC ::head spins with all the fire torches in the air::::
Catrinamonblue: thank you guys for letting me be here
druth Vlodovic: yes,it says who has it and then you have to put it down before the next person can touch it
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): thanks for coming Catrina :)
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): that would be great to incorporate
Lucinda Lavender: cool
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): and make room for quieter folks
druth Vlodovic: I'm off too,have fun guys
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): who take more time
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): who are run over by the [fast typing] elizas of the world
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): :) Bye everyone
druth Vlodovic: bye :)
Catrinamonblue: Bye everyone :) Hugs
Lucinda Lavender: bye everyone and thank you
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): thanks Luci
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