2012.03.29 13:00 - Korel's BIG Quote

The Guardian for this meeting was No Self, AKA Agatha Macbeth ;-). The comments are by moi.

Wol Euler: wotcha darling
--BELL--[1300]
Qt Core: Hi Wol, Agatha
Agatha Macbeth: Hiya Wollage, QT
Wol Euler: ah, you are here. I thought you were crashing
Wol Euler: hello qt
Agatha Macbeth: Have I come sunday morning by mistake? :p
Wol Euler: heheh
Agatha Macbeth: Boxy will probably appear shortly
Agatha Macbeth: New hair Wol?
Wol Euler: mmhmm :)
Agatha Macbeth: Cute ♥
Wol Euler: not sure whether I like it or not
Wol Euler: interesting :)
Wol Euler: ty
Agatha Macbeth: Oh it makes a nice change
Wol Euler grins.
Agatha Macbeth: Where's it from?
Agatha Macbeth waits with bated breath
Wol Euler: oh sorry, it's from the store that San got the cheeky geek hair she was wearing last night
Agatha Macbeth: Ok
Wol Euler: Called Dura-Boy
Qt Core: Hi Storm
Wol Euler: oddly enough
Wol Euler: hello storm
Agatha Macbeth: When I see San I'll ask then!
Storm Nordwind: Evenin' all
Agatha Macbeth: Hello again Stormy :)
Wol Euler: or take that LM
Agatha Macbeth: Indeed. TY
Wol Euler: are we all happy and healthy today?
Agatha Macbeth: Healthy and warm
Storm Nordwind: Yes and no.
Agatha Macbeth: which is close enough
Wol Euler smiles.
Agatha Macbeth: Three days to go
Wol Euler: indeed
Storm Nordwind: To Palm Sunday? ;)
Agatha Macbeth: Tree sunday anyway
Storm Nordwind: :)
Wol Euler laughs.
Agatha Macbeth: If not palms exactly
Agatha Macbeth: Don't fancy riding round on my ass anyway
Wol Euler: I find the train quite a cheerful sight, somehow
Wol Euler: not sure why
Agatha Macbeth: Yay
Agatha Macbeth: Perpetual motion
Storm Nordwind: That's an interesting though heartening thing to say :)
Agatha Macbeth nods
Wol Euler smiles.
Wol Euler: glad to be of service
Agatha Macbeth: Maybe it was just her train of thought
Wol Euler: heheh
Storm Nordwind: nooooo!
Agatha Macbeth: yessssss!
Wol Euler: that must be why I'm glad to see it returning
Wol Euler: no more lost thoughts
Storm Nordwind: "Whatever happens, here's another chance"
Agatha Macbeth: Hmm
Wol Euler: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJiCUdLBxuI <- a cheerful summery song
Agatha Macbeth: Actually I find the train quite a neat addition to the village
--BELL--[1315]
Wol Euler: agreed
Storm Nordwind: Shall we keep it then after the celebrations?
Qt Core: as today i started driving with windoshield down some good in car music is appreciated ;-)
Wol Euler: yes please :)
Agatha Macbeth: I'd say yes
Agatha Macbeth grins @ QT
Storm Nordwind: The Thursday 1pm committee so decrees. May it be so. :)
Agatha Macbeth: Yay
Agatha Macbeth: Now Wol can be cheerful all the time
Wol Euler rubberstamps the decision to be cheerful
Storm Nordwind: By the way, that is a truly delightful video Wol - thank you!
Wol Euler beams
Wol Euler: I've been listening to all the songs from that set
Agatha Macbeth: I'm scared to open it in case I crash
Qt Core: what about a travelling session ON the train ?
Storm Nordwind chuckles
Wol Euler: ooh
Agatha Macbeth: Might be an idea that
Wol Euler: have to do soemething clever with the recording, like doign it by hand
Wol Euler: but yse
Wol Euler: *yes
Agatha Macbeth pictures doing the recording by hand
Qt Core: adding the script to the train itself ?
Wol Euler reminds you of an antique tool called a "pencil"
Agatha Macbeth: Anyone got a pen?
Agatha Macbeth: snap
Wol Euler: tricky... I worry whether the listeners would keep up with the travellers
Wol Euler: if not they'd de-rez themselves and some conversation would be lost
Agatha Macbeth: Yes, true
Agatha Macbeth: We need high-speed listeners
Wol Euler: hehehhe
Storm Nordwind chuckles
Wol Euler: finely tuned ears
Agatha Macbeth: Yep
Agatha Macbeth: 'Oi come back - I missed that bit!'
Agatha Macbeth examines Wol's hair from different angles
Agatha Macbeth: Hello K
Wol Euler grins.
Agatha Macbeth: Maybe we could have a session back in the old tea house sometime?
Wol Euler smiles.
Wol Euler: I'd like that.
Agatha Macbeth: Yeah
Wol Euler: heh, there might even be a listener thtere still :)
Agatha Macbeth: Didn't it used to sit on the table?
Wol Euler: mmhmm
Wol Euler: back when it was a little listener, before it grew
Wol Euler: hello korel
Korel Laloix: Heya
Agatha Macbeth: Kind of pyramid shaped
Qt Core: Hi Korel
Wol Euler: mhmm
Agatha Macbeth: Well I certainly think there would be enough seats don't you
Wol Euler: given this turnout, sure
Wol Euler: their were eight if I remember rightly
Agatha Macbeth: Yes, we rarely seem to have big crowds these days
Wol Euler: or was there a second row?
Agatha Macbeth: I thought about 10
Wol Euler: twelve :)
Agatha Macbeth: Aha
Wol Euler: (looking at the cartoon wall)
Agatha Macbeth: 3 on each side then?
Wol Euler: sides and corners
Agatha Macbeth: That would be more than enough for most sessions
Wol Euler nods.
Agatha Macbeth: As I understand it, the main reason for the move was that the listener was picking up speech from outside the tea house
--BELL--[1330]
Storm Nordwind: That was the reason for moving from the previous pavilion. The teahouse before that was just too small - and we didn't have a listening autologger then.
Agatha Macbeth: Ah right, ty
Wol Euler nods.
Agatha Macbeth: To be honest you hardly see anyone in Rieul these days
Storm Nordwind: True
Storm Nordwind: And Mieum is thankfully deserted most of the time
Agatha Macbeth: Yes, I couldn't believe how much abandoned land there is on this side of the road now
Wol Euler: lots of yellow all over the map
Wol Euler: it's a bit worrying
Storm Nordwind sighs
Agatha Macbeth: Sign of the times
Agatha Macbeth: But when things take off again there will be an awful lot of land waiting to be snapped up
Wol Euler nods.
Storm Nordwind: "when"?
Agatha Macbeth: Well, yes
Wol Euler: might as well be optimistic
Agatha Macbeth: But these things usually go in cycles
Korel Laloix: SL is very cyclical
Korel Laloix: Just like us.
Wol Euler smiles.
Agatha Macbeth: Yes K, maybe it's a good thing :p
Korel Laloix: And bad.
Agatha Macbeth: Half full or half empty
Korel Laloix: I find myself structuring me so much that I have to make a plan to do something out of the normal.
Agatha Macbeth: Ouch
Korel Laloix: Exactly
Agatha Macbeth: With me it seems the other way round
Korel Laloix: HOw is that?
Agatha Macbeth: Well it just seems if I try to do anything 'normal' I have to work at it :p
Agatha Macbeth: Whereas being weird comes natural
Wol Euler: :)
Korel Laloix smiles
Korel Laloix: Well, the issue for me then.....
Korel Laloix: Is that I am perfeclty normal, and everyone else is weird....
Wol Euler nods.
Agatha Macbeth: Of course!
Wol Euler: very likely true, korel
Korel Laloix smiles
Korel Laloix: I will let my shink know.
Agatha Macbeth: The korelcentric view
Wol Euler: "normal" is a very wide category
Wol Euler: not to be confused with "average"
Agatha Macbeth: And much misunderstood
Storm Nordwind: or median
Korel Laloix: Or mode.
Wol Euler: indeed
Wol Euler grins. Buncha geeks.
Korel Laloix: lol
Storm Nordwind: We do what we're best at
Wol Euler: yep
Agatha Macbeth: The geeks shall inherit the earth
Korel Laloix: OK, I finally figured out the quite I want, but it is three paragraphs long.. how can i banner that?
Korel Laloix: quote
Storm Nordwind: Beware of geeks bearing gifts
Wol Euler: heh
Agatha Macbeth: Very carefully? :p
Wol Euler: very very tiny print?
Korel Laloix smiles
Korel Laloix: OK... grins
Wol Euler: somebody made a legible font taht was only 3 pixels high
Agatha Macbeth: 'Quick precis......because'
Wol Euler: I could try to find the URL for that
Storm Nordwind: Morse code needs less than that
Korel Laloix: Can I have more than one banner?
Agatha Macbeth: Wol has URLs for everything
--BELL--[1345]
Wol Euler grins.
Korel Laloix: Every thing?... grins
Wol Euler: well, most things
Agatha Macbeth: Mm?
Wol Euler: some things I can find the old fashioned way, by hand
Korel Laloix: lol
Korel Laloix: I am sooooo not going to comment on that.
Wol Euler grins.
Korel Laloix: I have not read, but what are the insturction for haning a banner?
Agatha Macbeth: It were all different in my day lad
Wol Euler: aye
Korel Laloix: Just load a texture?
Korel Laloix: THen edit?
Storm Nordwind: pass the quote to Bleu?
Wol Euler: even easier!
Korel Laloix: OH OK.
Agatha Macbeth: Oh yes K, just send it to Bleu I think
Agatha Macbeth: That's what I did
Korel Laloix: So Bleu is easy... I will remember that.
Agatha Macbeth: Yes, quite :)
Korel Laloix smiles
Agatha Macbeth: (hopes Bleu isn't reading this)
Korel Laloix: Maybe I will use that as my quote instead...
Storm Nordwind chuckles
Korel Laloix: Another reason I like PaB... good for a giggle.
Agatha Macbeth: So true
Agatha Macbeth: and....
Agatha Macbeth: onigokko
Storm Nordwind: But wait... you MUST take yourself seriously. Better still, TOO seriously!
Korel Laloix: I do that RL way too much.
Korel Laloix: Try not to bring it here.
Agatha Macbeth: Who needs serious I say?
Qt Core: bye all, i need to go and to relog too
Agatha Macbeth: Ciao QT, drive well
Wol Euler: bye qt
Storm Nordwind waves
Agatha Macbeth: stop
Korel Laloix: Ciao
Korel Laloix: I sent to blue... thanks.
Agatha Macbeth: Yay
Storm Nordwind: She's usually pretty quick
Korel Laloix: IN case it can't be put up.... do you want to read the whole thing?
Wol Euler: hehe, did you give her all three paragraphs?
Agatha Macbeth: Yes, could do
Korel Laloix: I did.. with a beg for forgiveness.
Agatha Macbeth: For posterity kinda thing
Storm Nordwind: Maybe your banner will need to unfurl on touch
Wol Euler smiles.
Wol Euler: go for it, korel

Korel Laloix: Calvino Rabeni: (July 25, 2010) The human condition is rather personal as it appears to me. So, for example, hearts want to meet - and then we come together with blinders on, various unaware spikes, covered with flypaper :) So there's a miss, or a mismatch, disappointments, some tender things gets skewered, feelings hurt, attachments activated .... business as usual being a human :) I feel a lot of personal grief comes out of not having consciousness about self and other in what happens when we relate. I've seen people nearby hurt each other over a misunderstanding and have had some rather insensitive comments directed at me; which it took some maneuvers to deal with.

Korel Laloix: The emotional reactions have a speed that far surpasses conscious control of communication, and trying to think how to do it well. So from that I have to think, a lot of work must be done "before" anything happens. Just saying, maybe, no amount of that focus would be sufficient all by itself, in the moment without all the background and base already in place through previous practice or something.

Korel Laloix:Awareness is always enough to change the direction, if not the state. Calvino Rabeni randomly, recalls Steve Martin saying - no one can sound sad playing a banjo. Everything we do, is poised between what it is, and what it could become, its possibilities or possible destinies.

Korel Laloix: You sort of need the whole thing I think.

Agatha Macbeth: That will certainly need a large gate :p
Wol Euler: "nobody can sound sad playing a banjo" is a pithy soundbite, but leaves out a lot of the content
Korel Laloix: lol
Korel Laloix: Yes.
Agatha Macbeth: Not even George Formby
--BELL--[1400]
Korel Laloix: That is not actually what made me think of this passaage... it was the very first sentance.
Agatha Macbeth: Or was that a ukelele?
Korel Laloix: Geroge Formby?
Agatha Macbeth: Before your time K, and a different culture :)
Korel Laloix: lol
Korel Laloix: OK.
Korel Laloix: GOing to look up then.
Wol Euler: ancient history :)
Agatha Macbeth: Before my time even
Agatha Macbeth: Oh Mr Wu what can I do
Wol Euler: that's Doctor Wu to you
Agatha Macbeth: Ah so
Storm Nordwind smiles
Wol Euler: another ancient history reference :)
Agatha Macbeth: Wu Manchu?
Wol Euler: a Steely Dan song
Storm Nordwind: Those were the days when ukelele was a double entendre
Agatha Macbeth: I remember Reeling in the years
Korel Laloix: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfmAeijj5cM
Agatha Macbeth: and Ricky don't lose that number of course
Korel Laloix: How a double?
Agatha Macbeth: Hm, good question
Storm Nordwind: "With m' little ukelele in m' hand" is the line from one song
Agatha Macbeth: Ah, of course
Wol Euler: 7sm
Korel Laloix: What?
Wol Euler smiles.
Korel Laloix: I have a feeling I don't want ot know now.
Agatha Macbeth: You are probably right
Wol Euler chuckles.
Agatha Macbeth: 7c
Korel Laloix: 7sm? 7c?
Wol Euler: it's a typo
Storm Nordwind: Mornington Crescent!
Wol Euler: ah :)
Agatha Macbeth: I thought if 7sm means smiles, maybe 7c means chuckle
Agatha Macbeth: Or 7ch
Wol Euler: the / is above (shifted form of) 7
Wol Euler: so if I try to type /sm and miss the shift, I type 7sm
Korel Laloix: OH OK... lol
Agatha Macbeth: Oh, not on mine
Wol Euler: ah :)
Korel Laloix: Interesting.
Agatha Macbeth: '&' is above 7
Wol Euler: that's just wrong :)
Agatha Macbeth: German KB perhaps?
Wol Euler: definitely DE keyboard yes
Korel Laloix: I get so lost here sometimes.
Agatha Macbeth: Ah
Agatha Macbeth: I hate the way the US mixes up @ and "
Storm Nordwind is used to it now
Agatha Macbeth: Heheh
Wol Euler: it helps to know that Aggers and Storm and I are all close to the same age, much older than you, and we lived in the UK at the same time
Korel Laloix: OH.. yes.. using German keyboards when I was there was a bit of a pain.. did not even realize there were different ones.
Wol Euler: so we have a lot of cultural history in common
Korel Laloix: Cool.
Storm Nordwind: accent on the "common"
Wol Euler: heheh
Korel Laloix: Funny, have not found someone close to me here... go figure.
Agatha Macbeth: Well they need keys for ß ä ö and ü presumably
Wol Euler: yep ßüäö
Wol Euler: and y and z are swapped, dunno why that one is
Korel Laloix: SO loved my time there though...
Wol Euler smiles.
Korel Laloix: I have an exchange semester comming up next spring and part of me wants to go back to Munchin.
Wol Euler: oh, good idea
Agatha Macbeth: I hear Hamburg is a lot of fun
Korel Laloix: BUt I have a possible slot to St Andrews in Scotland that could be good as well.
Wol Euler: for what it's worth, I prefer Hamburg
Wol Euler: I prefer the atmosphere there
Korel Laloix: But that sounds cold.
Storm Nordwind: St. Andrews IS cold.
Wol Euler grins.
Korel Laloix: The sad part is that i have first choice.. but all the choices are cold this cycle... frowns
Storm Nordwind: When arriving?
Korel Laloix: Would be Jan 13.
--BELL--[1415]
Storm Nordwind: That's not only cold but often very grey in Scotland. Actually it's not as cold as it is, for example, here in CO but the humidity makes it feel colder in Scotland. And the nights are very long.
Wol Euler nods.
Wol Euler: scotland is amazingly far north
Storm Nordwind: Though St. Andrews is east coast so not as bad as west
Wol Euler: very short winter days, and very short summer nights
Agatha Macbeth: I guess the altitude makes a big difference in Colorado?
Korel Laloix: There is one in Itally.. but I would HAVE TO learn Italian decently before.
Storm Nordwind: Closer to the sun Aggers :)
Agatha Macbeth: Hehe
Korel Laloix: Colorado is cold.
Agatha Macbeth: So is the top of Everest :p
Storm Nordwind: Nah. Seems much colder to me in Scotland. Humidity makes the difference
Storm Nordwind: 80 degrees here today
Korel Laloix: Wanted to find something on the equator with a beach.
Korel Laloix: But non on the list.
Wol Euler: awwwwww
Storm Nordwind: But St. Andrews is as far north as the Alaskan panhandle.
Korel Laloix: OK.. so that is off the list.
Agatha Macbeth tries to remember which countries are on the equator
Korel Laloix: Unless someone wants to come up and keep me warm.
Agatha Macbeth: I know ecuador, that's the obvious one
Wol Euler: heheh
Storm Nordwind: Singapore
Agatha Macbeth: Is it? Wow
Wol Euler: Nigeria, I think
Korel Laloix: The only Sounth American counry on the list is Brazil... and I would only have to learn a little Portuguese.
Agatha Macbeth: Could be
Storm Nordwind: Kuala Lumpur is only 200 miles north of the equator, and I was there a lot
Wol Euler: probably a few dozen tiny pacific islands
Korel Laloix: Non on the list... frowns
Agatha Macbeth: Sri Lanka can't be far off
Korel Laloix: My luck I am going to end up at the university of Iceland.
Wol Euler: oooh, I'd go to meet you in Iceland
Agatha Macbeth: Or go to Hawai'i and see Pila's volcano :p
Wol Euler: always wanted to go there
Wol Euler: black sand, glaciers, geysers
Storm Nordwind nods
Agatha Macbeth: Ash clouds
Storm Nordwind: pft!
Korel Laloix: I Hawaii was on the list... I woudl sooooo be there.
Storm Nordwind: Kenya?
Agatha Macbeth: dig it :p
Agatha Macbeth: Sorry
Agatha Macbeth slaps herself round the head
Storm Nordwind has realization dawn slowly on him
Agatha Macbeth: Must be age Stormy :p
Agatha Macbeth ducks
Storm Nordwind: "see what it is yet?"
Wol Euler: or the lack of oxygen at high altitude
Korel Laloix smiles
Agatha Macbeth: Mm, could be
Storm Nordwind: Only 17% less
Agatha Macbeth: I'm surprised the Broncos don't need oxygen tents
Korel Laloix: I ahve a lot of respect for people that live in a place called ICE and is mostly volcanoes...
Korel Laloix: But that is not my thing.
Storm Nordwind: We grow extra blood cells to compensate
Wol Euler grins.
Agatha Macbeth: Erk
Korel Laloix: I am lost again.
Storm Nordwind: Fire and ice were the two primal elements in north European mythology
Agatha Macbeth: Hanging out with loonies does this to you K :p
Wol Euler: yep :)
Korel Laloix: Which loonies?
Agatha Macbeth looks round
Storm Nordwind: They'll be arriving shortly
Korel Laloix grins
Agatha Macbeth: Did I read somewhere a Canadian dollar is called a loonie?
Wol Euler: mmhmm
Wol Euler: well, the dollar *coin* is a loonie
Wol Euler: because it has a loon on the face
Agatha Macbeth: Ah
Wol Euler: and the two dollar coin is a "twonie"
Agatha Macbeth: Or maybe my mother told me  (mother was from Ottowa)
Agatha Macbeth: Twonie?
Wol Euler: two-nie
Agatha Macbeth: Wow
Storm Nordwind: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loonie
Agatha Macbeth: Loonie toonie
Wol Euler smiles.
Storm Nordwind: Adams has some loons next to the house by the beach
Agatha Macbeth: Ooh
Storm Nordwind: Unmistakable call
Agatha Macbeth: I must go and look
Wol Euler nods.
Wol Euler: people either love the sound of the loons, or are disturbed or even frightened by them
Agatha Macbeth: The peacocks at Perfect Paradise can be a bit loud during a meditation
Storm Nordwind: If they get too loud, I remind the doves in my temple here how tasty dove pie is.
Agatha Macbeth: Ha
Korel Laloix looks up the sounds
--BELL--[1430]
Korel Laloix: Actually found them... will email myself for later.
Agatha Macbeth smiles
Agatha Macbeth: Ah well
Agatha Macbeth: Maybe I'll go and look at Adams' loonies :p
Wol Euler nods.
Wol Euler: getting late, I should think about moving on too
Storm Nordwind: Good idea. And I will install an info card at the stations.
Agatha Macbeth: Take care all
Wol Euler: bye all, take care, be happy
Agatha Macbeth: By for now
Storm Nordwind: Bye all. Thanks for your warm hospitality
Wol Euler: bye korel, good luck finding a warm spot for your time out