The Guardian for this meeting was stevenaia Michinaga. The comments are by stevenaia Michinaga.

milakel Resident: hi :)
Storm Nordwind: Hi!
milakel Resident: stev! :)
stevenaia Michinaga: hi Mila
milakel Resident: good to see you, rare guest :)

--BELL--

stevenaia Michinaga: Have a sit Mila
milakel Resident: v 3.3.0 has a button "buy land" in the address field :)
Bleu Oleander: hiya :)
milakel Resident: i suppose real estate isn't doing well in sl
milakel Resident: blue :)
milakel Resident: where is your crown?
stevenaia Michinaga: hi Pleu
stevenaia Michinaga: Bleu
milakel Resident: no one else has finished the hunt yet, storm?
stevenaia Michinaga: Strange, I would have thought I'd hear the bell by now
milakel Resident: yes, it was at 7 pm
Aphrodite Macbain looksfor "you are here"
milakel Resident: aph :)
Storm Nordwind heard the bell
milakel Resident: "you are here" is not a clue, it's a puzzle!
Bleu Oleander: go Aph!
Aphrodite Macbain: no map here
Aphrodite Macbain: harrumph
Storm Nordwind: I believe Eliza is very close to being the next winner, but someone may overtake her!
milakel Resident: oh, the crown's race!
milakel Resident: must. be. first.
Aphrodite Macbain: grrr
Bleu Oleander: Aph don't give up
Storm Nordwind chuckles
stevenaia Michinaga: perhaps there could be teams
milakel Resident: wait, a map...
Aphrodite Macbain: I cant think where there are any maps except in the Museum
milakel Resident: there *are* teams, stev :)
Storm Nordwind: yes teams are recommended, but only informally
milakel Resident: otherwise, i wouldn't make it this far :)
Aphrodite Macbain: messy teams. Mila and I are a team
stevenaia Michinaga: :)
Aphrodite Macbain: in an ad hoc kindof way
stevenaia Michinaga: ``nods teams when you need teams
Aphrodite Macbain: will you have enough crowns for a team Storm?
milakel Resident: one sec
Aphrodite Macbain: k
Storm Nordwind: I'll make as many as we need
Aphrodite Macbain: where's she going? to look for a map?
stevenaia Michinaga: Storms little workshop
Storm Nordwind: She's gone off the map
Aphrodite Macbain: Oh maybe there's a map in the dome.....
Aphrodite Macbain: hmmm
Storm Nordwind: I meant... off my minimap!
Bleu Oleander: :)
stevenaia Michinaga: I was never very good at treasure hunts and mysteries
Aphrodite Macbain: think I'll check
Storm Nordwind: hehe!
Storm Nordwind: I think some people have got pleasantly compulsive over this treasure hunt :)
Bleu Oleander: you're enjoying this aren't you Storm ... torturing poor little avatars :)
Storm Nordwind: Moi???! ;-))
Bleu Oleander: hahaha!
stevenaia Michinaga: Great train wreck story storm
stevenaia Michinaga: you ahve indeed been having great fun
Storm Nordwind: The demo Mila saw was quite impressive. More like a water chute at a theme park!
Bleu Oleander: :)
stevenaia Michinaga: I've also been appreciating your meditation pavilion, Storm, adding it to place I visit
Bleu Oleander: yes, very nice!
stevenaia Michinaga: sometimes just a little structure to one's quiet moments can be very satifying
Storm Nordwind: I'm very pleased people are using it
Storm Nordwind: Yes that's a great way to see it Steve
stevenaia Michinaga: would be nice to have it say the word to you, sometimes reading can be jumpie n the screen
Storm Nordwind: Yes. I'm working on a stream for it
stevenaia Michinaga: don;t know if you can localize recorded sound from the bird, that would be winderful
Storm Nordwind: We'll see how I can do. Might not be tomorrow!

--BELL--

stevenaia Michinaga: nods, certainly no rush
Bleu Oleander: hi Raffi
Raffila Millgrove: hi Bleu. greets everyone.
Storm Nordwind waves
stevenaia Michinaga: I just switched viewers and now the ribbon is black, very srange
stevenaia Michinaga: hi Raffi
Storm Nordwind: To what Steve?
stevenaia Michinaga: from red to black
Storm Nordwind: No I mean switch to which viewer?
stevenaia Michinaga: From Phoenix to PhoenixFirestorm
Storm Nordwind: Oh dear. v4?
stevenaia Michinaga: nods
stevenaia Michinaga: I can still go back but it does seem to be working fine
Raffila Millgrove: Firestorm is up to 4?
Storm Nordwind: Yes
Raffila Millgrove: they issued an update to Viewer 3 today.
Storm Nordwind: "Firestorm FUI Beta 4.0.1.27000"
Raffila Millgrove: i dont' notice anything but i .. liked they fixed some bugs.
milakel Resident: hi :)
milakel Resident: yay! victory!
stevenaia Michinaga: wb Mila
Bleu Oleander: about time !!! :)
milakel Resident: found the 6th hunt
Storm Nordwind: So onwards to solving clue #7
milakel Resident: yes
milakel Resident: but i can now sit through the session with a sense of accomplishment :)
Bleu Oleander wonders if she'll lose her ONLY queen status
milakel Resident: hehe
Storm Nordwind: haha Mila!
milakel Resident: noo, you're the first and only one of a kind :)
Raffila Millgrove: hello magnum
Bleu Oleander: phew! ty Mila
milakel Resident: :)
milakel Resident: *winks to aph* :)
stevenaia Michinaga: Just getting here is a nice sense of accomplishment
milakel Resident: sadly, woly is busy with wokr and can't take part in the hunt. though she really likes team work.
milakel Resident: stev, true
Storm Nordwind: Well she can start late - it's OK. I won't take it down until well after April 1st
Aphrodite Macbain: where can we find a golden lotus in this here village?
Storm Nordwind: Who knows :)
Bleu Oleander: my lips are sealed
stevenaia Michinaga: ponders the treasure hunt, can;t say I remember ever being on one, is it like an easter egg hunt?
Raffila Millgrove: Storm have you seen the new pathfinder tools or sim.. it makes trains run easier. they should let you have the tools. they are giving out to creators...
Storm Nordwind: No like an easter egg hunt Steve
Aphrodite Macbain: you collect cluses that take you to the next hiding place
Aphrodite Macbain: clues
Storm Nordwind: And what you find each time is different
Aphrodite Macbain: I imagine that storm or Dareen may have some golden lotii in their garden
Aphrodite Macbain: s
milakel Resident: :)
Storm Nordwind: Haven't seen anything of that name Raffi. Read the latest wiki on it and know the principles - which are fairly easy
milakel Resident: aph, no wories. we'll crack this one :)
Aphrodite Macbain pulls out her nutcracker and a hammer
stevenaia Michinaga: do you ahve the wiki like with the details of the hunt handt
Raffila Millgrove: they have creator's tools. only giving out to select people right now. and premium members can goto the sims where they've been used.
stevenaia Michinaga: *link
stevenaia Michinaga: a but of a lag there, correction appeared before the error :)
Aphrodite Macbain: I think I'm goung to look for golden loti
milakel Resident: stev :)
Aphrodite Macbain: I hope they're the real ones and not oin a photograph
milakel Resident: aph! impatient you :)
Aphrodite Macbain: I'm a girl on a mission
milakel Resident: hehe
Storm Nordwind: Interesting - thanks Raffi. Though much of the interest (from an ex-engineer's POV) is working it all out and building themselves. Even if put a ring around the sim, it really wouldn't be very ambitious compared to the SLRR.
Bleu Oleander: take you time ... i'm enjoying my status
milakel Resident: you go get them, tiger! :)
stevenaia Michinaga: lol, Bleu
Raffila Millgrove: you need to look into it Storm. you are building yourself.
Storm Nordwind: I will. Thanks!
Raffila Millgrove: hope you enjoy. sorry to speak off topic.. when Hunt is in topic.
milakel Resident: no offtopic here, raff :)
stevenaia Michinaga: back to my question, is there a link to the hunk on the wiki?
stevenaia Michinaga: 8Hunt
stevenaia Michinaga: *
Storm Nordwind: Raffi is being considerate - and I much appreciate that :))
milakel Resident: i don't think so, stev
stevenaia Michinaga: will check my emails
Storm Nordwind: No. But there is a Treasure Chest on which to click to get all the details

--BELL--

Storm Nordwind: the Treasure Chest (and Roll of Honor) is in the NW corner of the Anniversary Tree plot. Catch the monorail and it will take you there! ;)
milakel Resident: unless you crash on the road :)
stevenaia Michinaga: will consider turning myself loose on the hunt
milakel Resident: good plan, stev :)
Storm Nordwind: Argh - no one is safe now!
Raffila Millgrove: wonders what is the word?
stevenaia Michinaga: I'm trying to see if I can sent the ribbon commands
Raffila Millgrove: ah
stevenaia Michinaga: to no avail
Raffila Millgrove: ah it's not cooperating today!
stevenaia Michinaga: at times it is like a time machine, journey back to early logs of PaB
Storm Nordwind: If you had a time machine and could guarantee not to alter the course of intervening history, where would you go?
Bleu Oleander: the future
stevenaia Michinaga: to observe only.... hmmm

--BELL--

Raffila Millgrove got lost reading that link to the chatlog.. the meet session was kind of hilarious.
stevenaia Michinaga: for some strange treason the thought of hanging with moses when he got the 10 commandments pops into my ing
stevenaia Michinaga: mind
Raffila Millgrove: wow. what a Big Day.. interesting choice.
stevenaia Michinaga: burning bush, physical existence of god, laws governing millenia, interesting thing to watch
Raffila Millgrove: yes.
Raffila Millgrove: would you be surprised if it was very different from the stories told of it today?
Raffila Millgrove: i would be surprised if it were the same as we can read now.
stevenaia Michinaga: well, that would be the point... to see
Raffila Millgrove: well a burning bush.. one thing you could see for sure. but if God was only.. heard in Moses mind.. be kind of disappointing.
stevenaia Michinaga: moses takes out his zippo and ignites some shrubbery so he can etch into some stone perhaps
Storm Nordwind chuckles
stevenaia Michinaga: what about you storm?
milakel Resident: aph? any luck? :)
Aphrodite Macbain: not a lotus to be found
milakel Resident: heh
Storm Nordwind: I hadn't thought of it before just now. I thought of going back to buddha Shakyanmuni's enlightenment of first discourses... or more personally, to whatever consciousness I had before this life.
milakel Resident: i'd go to the random future
Aphrodite Macbain: say more Storm?
Storm Nordwind: Well the first is off historic interest, and it's inspiring to be in the presence of greatness that is a living example of "You can do this too".
Raffila Millgrove: i thought we had to go back. i too would go forward.

--BELL--

stevenaia Michinaga: Seems I insulted the SL gods
milakel Resident: storm, i think the gloss of enlightment came with time and at the time it was a simple discussion :)
Storm Nordwind: You are welcome to your thoughts Mila ;)) Then lets find a case of genuine enlightenment. Hit the search button on the time machine. :)
Raffila Millgrove: what is a case of geniune enlightenment?
Storm Nordwind: Well that is another question - very big! :)
Raffila Millgrove: you know why i ask.. because every time i see the word "genuine" that conjurs up.. "fake". so i was thinking there were likely a lot of fake enlightentments too the, so how we know which is which?
Storm Nordwind: The word "genuine" was a tease at Mila :) But I understand your point. If one becomes completely free from suffering and is able to help others become so too, I would say that's hard to fake!
milakel Resident: para girl! :)
stevenaia Michinaga: hi Paradise
milakel Resident: so good to see you :)
Bleu Oleander: hiya Paradise :)
Storm Nordwind waves
Raffila Millgrove: due to the fact that someone told me yesterday she is going to become the new Jesus... i am not much for.. imagining anyone alive who reaches this state you describe.
Paradise Tennant: smiles and waves hello :) sorry I am so late .. had to work late :)
Raffila Millgrove: if she's the new Jesus.. i dunno.. i guess i could take a whack at being the new Holy Spirit.
milakel Resident: raff, modern pr can do wonders
Paradise Tennant: smiles and admires Bleu 's leaves
stevenaia Michinaga: hello Dounia
Bleu Oleander: :) Para
Storm Nordwind: The person people called Buddha always said not to believe anything he said simply because of the reputation others had given him. He said give a few things a try and if they work for you carry on; otherwise put them aside.
Raffila Millgrove: i think that people believe what yo tell the. If you want to tell them.. you are enlightened and cry jewels from your eyes (which someone did with a friend of mine) it's likely some will believe it.
milakel Resident: storm, yes, i like this in dharma. non-invasive approach.
Storm Nordwind: Some people want a living idol to worship. But that doesn't give them pure happiness, or remove their fear and suffering.
Raffila Millgrove: once you start squeezing emeralds out of your eyes.. i dunno. it's what made her believe he was enlightened, it's what made me believe he was a charltan.
stevenaia Michinaga: I always viewed enlightenment as something others see in you, but you accept as just your normal state
milakel Resident: in the same sense "genuine" is a perception. a personal experience, which may has little to do with common rules.
Storm Nordwind: I know nothing. If someone I met on the street did this in front of me, I would think they were a magician, physical or metaphysical. But what they did would not help me or others.
Raffila Millgrove: well your definition of enlightment.. it includes helping others.
Raffila Millgrove: in your view--it's not enlightenment.. if it doesn't help others.
Raffila Millgrove: that is my understanding. of your view.
Storm Nordwind: There is liberation and there is buddhahood. The first need not help others. The second does.
--BELL--
Raffila Millgrove: that's the thing Storm with having a talk like this. In order to say anything .. reasonable.. intelligent.. one has to accept that there is buddhahood. I am not disagreeing with you. just pointing out.. that it's a view you share with other buddists.
Storm Nordwind: I take a pragmatic view. These words are not helpful to me and to many. I'd rather let the Buddillectuals argue and explin them. I'm more interested in helping others. It's a way of compassion. And one of the nice side-effects of compassion is that it bring oneself the most complete and secure happiness. How this relates to buddhahood and enlightenment is almost unnecessary to me.
Raffila Millgrove nods. a very clear statement.
Raffila Millgrove is late for an appt. already by 20 minutes. so sorry. please excuse the dashing out.
Storm Nordwind: Oh dear - bye!!
Paradise Tennant: nite nite raffila
Bleu Oleander: bye Raffi
stevenaia Michinaga: must on the bright side of the world
Storm Nordwind: Always look on the bright side of life...
Storm Nordwind whistles
Bleu Oleander: :)
stevenaia Michinaga: smiles,
Bleu Oleander: take care all
Storm Nordwind waves
stevenaia Michinaga: Night Bleu
stevenaia Michinaga: love the flower
milakel Resident: elegant queen
Storm Nordwind: Steve do you want to come get the Treasure Hunt details from the chest?
Paradise Tennant: nite nite bleu sweet dreams
Paradise Tennant: treasure hunt ?
stevenaia Michinaga: if only to wet my appitite
stevenaia Michinaga: :)
Storm Nordwind: Yes Paradise
stevenaia Michinaga: shall we ride the Being Express?
Storm Nordwind: Several people have been having a lot of fun obsessing about it, it seems!
stevenaia Michinaga: <--- not the obsessive type (yet)
Storm Nordwind: Currently at the far station. Just about to return
Paradise Tennant: smiles
milakel Resident: do you think it's better to be obsessed with a treasure hunt or a sacred buddhist meeting, storm? :)
Paradise Tennant: lovely knowing your train is coming
Storm Nordwind: No Mila! ;-))
stevenaia Michinaga: okies, off to the station