It was morning in Rieul, and as soon as I arrived at the tea house, I met Fael again. Doug would soon follow.
Fael Illyar: Hello Pema :)
Pema Pera: Hi Fael!
Pema Pera: moimoi Pema tassa
Faenik loves wells!
Pema Pera: I just spend an hour with your fellow country woman Yoe
Pema Pera: exchanging land in a triangle swap
Pema Pera: quite complicated
Fael Illyar: Hi Doug
Pema Pera: not finished yet but we’re getting close
Pema Pera: Hi Doug!
doug Sosa: morning (here)
Pema Pera: late night here
Fael Illyar: afternoon here
Pema Pera: ah, now I can see your new look Fael!
Pema Pera: mermaid!!
Pema Pera: took a long time to rezzzz
Fael Illyar: Yes, SL is being slow today
Only then did I see clearly Fael’s new form, as a mermaid.
Pema Pera: we need a special cushion for you
Pema Pera: or a small aquarium :)
Fael Illyar: I am already using a prim I created for that purpose to sit.
Pema Pera: ah!
doug Sosa: warming your tail by the fire. I shouldn’t say that.
Fael Illyar: these cushions don’t quite work with the AO pose for sitting in the AO for this one
Fael Illyar: I kept my wings though :)
doug Sosa: and the cat’s name?
Faenik meaows softly.
doug Sosa: softly is beautiful name for a cat.
Pema Pera: :)
Fael Illyar: umm … :)
doug Sosa: amazing dream last night, the kind that has charachters, a story line, and the full sense of actually happening.
Pema Pera: was it easy to remember?
Pema Pera: or do you write down your dreams?
Faenik: could be
doug Sosa: no. it is like being inside of an aquarium when dreaming it, and outside on waking. I see the reflections of the outside on the glass more than the inside. I had to get my wife brakfast at 5:30 for her to get to an early meeting, and lost most of the dream.
doug Sosa: i do often. But the best i could have done would be a summary.
Pema Pera: I like the acquarium image here in honor of Fael :)
doug Sosa: Yes. I kept the aquarium meme going.
Pema Pera: are you actually working with dreams in your practice as a psychoanalyst?
Fael Illyar: :)
doug Sosa: oh yes.
doug Sosa: In the dream there is no awareness of the life outside the aquarium.
Riddle walked in, followed almost immediatel by Resting Thor.
Pema Pera: Hi Riddle!
Riddle Sideways: good morning all
Pema Pera: Hi Thor!
Riddle Sideways: hi thor
doug Sosa: those who are in “morning” re likely in california?
Fael Illyar: Hello Riddle
Fael Illyar: Hello Resting
Pema Pera: Thor, that is a tiny’s cushion
Pema Pera: so you are resting a bit too much, Thor :)
Riddle Sideways: yes, Cal
Pema Pera: shrinking :)
Pema Pera: Cal?
For a moment I thought that Caledonia might have walked in, but looking around, no Cal in sight. I then solved the riddle by realizing that Riddle must have refered to Doug’s reference to California. Meanwhile Resting Thor had sriveled up a bit while sitting on the tinies’ cushion.
Resting Thor: haha
doug Sosa: “tiny”?
Pema Pera: tiny avatars
Pema Pera: special breed
Pema Pera: need special cushions
Pema Pera: we went to a dance of them
Pema Pera: remember?
Pema Pera: a few months ago
Pema Pera: you were a tiny fox
doug Sosa: sure. thanks.
Pema Pera: huggies mart or some such
Pema Pera: How’ve you been Thor?
Pema Pera: busy?
Pema Pera: you’re running a group, right?
Resting Thor: busy with events and RL
Pema Pera: You’re running a group in SL ?
Resting Thor: we’re doing the ACI courses and discussions groups
Faenik: ah :)
Pema Pera: ACI?
Resting Thor: Asian Classics Institute
Resting Thor: series of 18 buddhist teacher training courses
doug Sosa: is a visit possible?
Resting Thor: sure
doug Sosa: I would like that.
Pema Pera: which type of Buddhism? A range?
Resting Thor: Gelupka Tibetan lineage commentaries on classic indian buddhism
Pema Pera: like Madhyamika?
Resting Thor: definitely
Pema Pera: and Yogacara?
Resting Thor mentioned Michael Roach.
doug Sosa: Is ACI at times broader than buddhism? (”nothing can be broader than…”)
Resting Thor: Geshe Michael Roach has started the Yoga Studies Institute and the Enlightened Business Institute as well
Resting Thor: also the Asian Classics Input Project has been scanning ancient texts now for 20 years
Pema Pera: if you meet Michael, say hello from me! I briefly studied some Tibetan under him, 18 years ago, in New Jersey :)
Resting Thor: distributed 2500 dvds with 3 millions pages to scholars
Resting Thor: fun
doug Sosa: solid!
Resting Thor: i’ll see him again in a couple of months, he’s on tour right now
Pema Pera: I gave them some Unix advice, I believe, fits with my T shirt now :)
Pema Pera: they had just started to translate digitally
Faenik: なるほど^^
Pema Pera: into digital form I mean
I was wearing a GNU T shirt, hence the fit. Resting Thor then took off.
Resting Thor: unfortunately i have to go right now… see you guys soon :)
Pema Pera: c u !
Riddle Sideways: bye
doug Sosa: bye.
Pema Pera: anything you’d like to talk about?
Pema Pera: oh, Fael, by the way,
Pema Pera: have you been reading the blog from he beginning?
Pema Pera: PaB blog?
Riddle Sideways: sorry, I got lost off into the idea of Enlightened Business
Pema Pera: or did I misunderstand that?
Fael Illyar: Not from the very beginning, haven’t found time yet.
Pema Pera: ah, must have misunderstood
Pema Pera: no reason to do so of course
Fael Illyar: I did read from a couple entries before I started myself
Pema Pera: unless you really would like to :)
Pema Pera: ah!
Pema Pera: enlightened business, Ridlle?
Riddle Sideways: resting, mentioned it
Riddle Sideways: and I am not sure if that is an oximoron
Pema Pera: skillful means can be applied to anything!
Fael Illyar: keeping up with the ones coming up that I haven’t been a part of takes enough time already at the moment :)
Pema Pera: haha
Pema Pera: yes, I can imagine
Riddle Sideways: right, reading the blog takes hours too
Pema Pera: yes I know . . . .
Pema Pera: thanks, Fael, for your latest contribution!
Fael Illyar: You didn’t read it yet, did you?
doug Sosa: Sounds like I must go read it.
Fael Illyar: I think I sent it 10 minutes before this meeting started :)
Pema Pera: not yet, Fael
Pema Pera: just saw it in my mail box
Fael Illyar: Ah :)
I reported on our latest land development developments
Pema Pera: btw, we are getting close to getting a continuous path from Magoja to the sea
Pema Pera: I bought a couple parcels of land stretching through Chokki
Pema Pera: yet another career I’ve taken up here in SL
Pema Pera: real estate wheeling and dealing
doug Sosa: wonderful.
Riddle Sideways: you are becoming a huge land baron
Riddle Sideways: I remember when you bought the first plot
Pema Pera: well yes, dangerously so . . . I do hope the grants keep coming, for the tier
Pema Pera: the real estate tax
doug Sosa: In the RL I am worried about those left out. Powerful article in the NYT this morning on gated communities in India.
Faenik loves wells!
Pema Pera: inverse prisons
doug Sosa: When was the first plot?
Pema Pera: the first plot I bought, you mean?
doug Sosa: Yes. inverse prisons. Good image to think through.
doug Sosa: Yes, first plot.
Pema Pera: late March
Pema Pera: just before starting PaB
doug Sosa: not so long ago.
Pema Pera: indeed
We continued talking about locking up and locking out.
Pema Pera: as for gated communities
Pema Pera: in the middle ages safe areas were few
Faenik loves wells!
Pema Pera: fortifications
Fael Illyar: Not a very new idea then :)
Pema Pera: the unsafe areas were percolating, mathematically speaking
Pema Pera: then the world became safe and the “bad” elements were put into prisons
Pema Pera: but in the US the tendency seems to go back
Pema Pera: with the rise of gated communities
Pema Pera: locking up the “good” ones
doug Sosa: yes, but farming was possible on the outside, and forests. The “outside” is now more difficult in some way. safer, but few resources, like water.
Fael Illyar: you can also think of it as locking the bad ones out.
Riddle Sideways: yes, we have 4 or more gated communities within a few miles of me
doug Sosa: but the children of bad are not bad, and the bad are once children.
Faenik is a hairy black ball with eyes and ears.
Pema Pera: yes, but locking out in a way that gives them almost the whole world as a prison :)
Fael Illyar: Yes, that’s the effect
Pema Pera: in a limited way
doug Sosa: One wonders if the interesting lives of the future will be lived there?
Pema Pera: On a small way I have seen the same in New York City in Penn Station
Pema Pera: ten years ago they build a glass cage for a waiting room in the middle
Pema Pera: and you had to show your ticket to get in
Pema Pera: everything else was for the homeless
Pema Pera: only the ticket holders could get into the less than 10% that was the inverse prison
Pema Pera: with glass walls
Pema Pera: an aquarium!
Pema Pera: circle closed
doug Sosa: It looked so uncomfortable that i prefered to sit on the floor outside.
Fael Illyar: lots of circles here today.
doug Sosa: Closed circles are elements in larger structures
Time to say goodbye.
doug Sosa: ouch. i need to go.
Pema Pera: I need to go soon too
doug Sosa: bye all
Pema Pera: See you, Doug!
Riddle Sideways: I also need to go
Riddle Sideways: bye doug
Pema Pera: I have an astro meeting coming up again
Fael Illyar: bye Riddle
Pema Pera: my whole life is shifting into SL it seems . . . . .
Riddle Sideways: btw fael, I like the new look
Fael Illyar: Thank you :)
Pema Pera: good color coordination between wings and tail!
Riddle Sideways: pema, you are here more then not
Riddle Sideways: bye all
Pema Pera: bye!
Pema Pera: c u
Pema Pera: yes, I am more or less here much of the time
Fael Illyar: I’m starting to see SL as more of an extension to RL than as separate as time passes.
Faenik is a hairy black ball with eyes and ears.
Pema Pera: yes, the immersion is quite amazing
Pema Pera: the networks of friends you build up her is something different from anything you can do in RL
Pema Pera: the speed and ease with which you can find really interesting people
Fael Illyar: Yes, nothing physically really stands in your way.
Pema Pera: and revisit them at the speed of IM and teleport
Pema Pera: so time becomes a huge problem!
Pema Pera: the only thing in short supply
We talked about time, and our felt temporal limitations.
Fael Illyar: Limited supply I would say
Pema Pera: yes
Fael Illyar: it’s not really short supply.
Pema Pera: what do you mean?
Fael Illyar: There is a limited amount of time we have. However, you tend to think of each day as a limit somehow
Fael Illyar: when it actually is your whole life
Fael Illyar: the real limit that is
Pema Pera: so you mean in that sense it is not so short?
Fael Illyar: time is not in short supply in an absolute sense but the time in a single day is.
Fael Illyar: and we tend to focus on that
Fael Illyar: impatience :)
Pema Pera: yes, I was more thinking about the ratio of the time we have available — on any scale, from minutes to days to years — compared to what we really would like to do
Pema Pera: if there were 240 hours a day I could easily fill them
Pema Pera: 2400 too . . . . . .
Pema Pera: . . . I would learn more languages, play go, you name it, go for long walks . . . more chats . . . .
Fael Illyar: what I’m trying to say here is that it’d make no difference what the day length is.
Fael Illyar: you’d still feel the same :)
Pema Pera: yes
Pema Pera: it’s the ratio of actual vs potential
Pema Pera: not the length of any division
Faenik is a hairy black ball with eyes and ears.
Pema Pera: and also, ultimately time does not exist
Fael Illyar: so it’s not really time at all but having to choose
Pema Pera: but that is a different vantage point
Pema Pera: as long as we identify with being a limited creature, we have this problem
At that moment, Rajah showed up.
Pema Pera: HI Rajah!
Fael Illyar: mental limitation, can’t deal with everything going on at once
Pema Pera: still awake, hey?
Rajah Yalin: hi pema, ael
Rajah Yalin: and i jus oke up
Fael Illyar: Hi Rajah
Pema Pera: well, I was just about to go off
Pema Pera: to an astro meeting
Pema Pera: sorry to miss you almost!
Rajah Yalin: lol
Pema Pera: bye for now, Fael, Rajah
Fael Illyar: Bye Pema :)
Rajah Yalin: Namaste
